They are rightful Polish clay and were Poland's eastern regions known as the Kresy for almost 700 years..
Following Soviet occupation during & after WW2, Russians ethnically cleasned the Polish populations and took 20% of Poland's eastern territories. They then processed to create fake states called the Belarusian and Ukrainian SSR and incorporated them into the Soviet Union.
After the Soviet Union collapsed, came the Ukrainian and Belarusian "nations". Nations with no identity. No ethos. No foundation myths, etc.
It pities me to see wonderful Polish cities with lots of history like Lwow or Wilno ethnically replaced and turned into utter shit. Belarus and Ukraine are slowly going extinct and turned into Russian. Hell, most of Belarus doesn't even speak Belarusian, just Russian!
When will they get their rightful clay back? Us Americans should help them. Also forgot to mention that one piece of Ukraine belongs to Hungary as well (Subcarpathia).
>Poland has no claims to 90% of its territory. >Russians cleansed the Poles, Poles cleansed the Germans > Ukraine is much better that a nation which hasn't won a war against anything other than Communist conscripts for a hundred years. >Poland, not shit. Belarus is just White Russia, ofc they speak russian. >Never, Poland shouldn't exist, let alone be covered in American blood.
>Poles cleansed the Germans nice history books you have there shlomo
Also fuck off, we don't want anything, leave us alone
Carson Reed
>Poland has no claims to 90% of its territory.
You’re a fucking moron.
>Russians cleansed the Poles, Poles cleansed the Germans.
Russians cleansed both Poles and Germans. Poles didn’t cleanse anyone.
>Ukraine is much better that a nation which hasn't won a war against anything other than Communist conscripts for a hundred years.
LOL, Ukraine is a fake artificial state created after WW1 by Austria-Hungary. It is Polish clay and has always been. The southwestern part even belongs to Hungary and/or Romania ffs. You have no idea what you even speak of.
>Poland, not shit. Belarus is just White Russia, ofc they speak russian.
Belarusian and Russian are distinct East Slavic language. They speak Russian because Belarusian is dying off, dumbfuck.
>Never, Poland shouldn't exist, let alone be covered in American blood.
Fucking kek
>Poland shouldn’t exist >Yet Ukraine should
You’re a fucking autist who needs to be hanged by his entrails.
Western ukraine was polish for 500 years, western belarus was not polish, it was lithuanian for 400 years and polish for 20 years.
they exist: - to make butthurt for all (both countries were created by commies after collapse of russian empire) - because they are not part of russia yet
Michael Lee
Poland is more based than your nation, Bong.
Jace Carter
>Nations with no identity. No ethos. No foundation myths, etc.
that's relative for every nation on this planet, because nationality is something that french invented in 18th century and everybody followed in pure fomo style
regionalism is okay, nationalism is crap
Kevin Allen
>>Poland has no claims to 90% of its territory 100% akctshually (((Current))) South was Celtic; West- Germanic; North West was Germanic/ Gothic; North and north East was Baltic. Pooland is fake nation and country on a stolen clay ever since cuckdom creation in 10'th century. Belorussia and Ukraine has been Latvian clay, ever since chasing out golden horde for 200 years, before the rule off, has been handed over to polaks (hated by native Ukrainians), that lost it within next 100 years to fractional moscovite rulers.
Anthony Ortiz
So based that there's a million Poles here instead of their own country.
>Belorussia and Ukraine has been Latvian clay, ever since chasing out golden horde for 200 years, before the rule off, has been handed over to polaks (hated by native Ukrainians), that lost it within next 100 years to fractional moscovite rulers.
Dear Christ, imagine being this fucking stupid. Latvia has never even been an independant nation until last century. Latvians never even lived that far!
Noah Adams
Akctshually 2m recently (((naturalised))),+ 1m registered new immigrants since 2016
Juan Diaz
only 418 lol
1392-1793 1922-1939
other you claims are same bullshit
Xavier Jackson
You do realize Lithuania joined hands and became part of Poland via a union?...
>other you claims are same bullshit
except they arent and u know it damn well
Hudson Roberts
>They only exist because USSR failed and EU pumped cash to make sure they were sovereign.
This
David Morgan
Belarus and Ukraine exist because the pripyat marshes are an impassable natural obstacle for armies from-prehistory to WW2.
German generals wanted to drain the marshes in 41/42 but Hitler, being an environmentalists, was worried it could create dust bowl type ecological disaster
The marshes is why there are 2 countries, not one, since there is no route from Belarus to Ukraine east of lviv or west of kiev. It is extremely difficult to subjugate or pacify the people under Polish or Russian rule since partisans can hide out in the marshes indefinetly and theres really nothing either Poland or russia could do.
Read up Tacitus about "Balts"- Aesti before 10th century.
ANW polaks migrated from Ukraine 6-10th centuries, they are not native to the current fake pooland by no means possible
Ayden Scott
>Ukraine is much better that a nation which hasn't won a war against anything other than Communist conscripts for a hundred years.
Ukraine, a rural shithole that was under Polish reign for almost half a millennium is better than industrial Poland? And you do realize Poland only re emerged last century after partitions? They won their war with Soviets in 1919 so what are you trying to get at? Meanwhile compare their ethos and identity to that of the fake Ukrainian one. Ukrainian did not even become an ethnic group until last century. Poles on the other hand have existed since Mieszko I.
Asher Butler
tonly after they were #rekt by russiansand lost half of their lands.
other claims are same bullshit
ukraine and belarus were created by lenin to harm russian empire, because they were afraid of counter revolution from russian conservatives more than anything else. thats why they created as much tensions and problems as possible. They were created by Trotskyists.
after collapse of ussr they continued to exist because russia was not able to absorb them,today belarus is absorbed by russia. it will become russian federal district after the death of lukashenko. ukraine is too big to absorb
Jonathan Miller
>ANW polaks migrated from Ukraine 6-10th centuries, they are not native to the current fake pooland by no means possible
What sort of alternate history bullshit is this? Poles are native to their lands and have been for centuries. Look up Lusatian culture. They didn’t originate from Ukraine, the Proto-Slavs did.
Gavin Evans
>ukraine and belarus were created by lenin to harm russian empire, because they were afraid of counter revolution from russian conservatives more than anything else. thats why they created as much tensions and problems as possible. They were created by Trotskyists.
Ukraine and Belarus were created in the aftermath of WW1. No such state exists and both of these “countries” are Poland’/ eastern regions and have been for close to a thousand years. They weren’t created by Trotskyists.
>after collapse of ussr they continued to exist because russia was not able to absorb them,today belarus is absorbed by russia.
What are you saying? It was the Soviets who created them in the first place after annexing eastern Poland and creating these fake states so that they could be incorporated into the USSR.
>it will become russian federal district after the death of lukashenko. ukraine is too big to absorb
That makes no sense since Russia has no stake or historical claim connected to it. I think you got Russia confused with Poland. It will become another Polish voivodeship.
>Belarus and Ukraine exist because the pripyat marshes are an impassable natural obstacle for armies from-prehistory to WW2.
Not all of the region is marshes though. West Ukraine for example is wheatfields and hilly/steppe-like.
>The marshes is why there are 2 countries, not one, since there is no route from Belarus to Ukraine east of lviv or west of kiev.
That's more of a matter of logistics.
Colton Rivera
Hes a dumbass and thinks hat western slav migration replaced the inhabitants of modern poland. This is untrue, they had sexy time, and this sexy time resulted in the Poles. Poles like the Germans are a very ethnically diverse group when compared to koreans, and most poles are a spicy mix of nord, alpinid, slav etc even a little ancient iranian
Polaks migrated from Ukraine being christcucks- fact They flipped their religion in order to trick pipal support to gain clay from pagans- fact. There are NONE non Christian, non genetically slav single archaeological proof for polaks to be there before 10th century- fact. Polaks are eternal migrants from Khazaria - the end!
Dominic Cooper
Does Britfag forget Lithuania joined a union with Poland, Poland was official language, Lithuanian wasnt even an official language?
republic of pirates was more real than states that were created after ww1 they were temporarily created from former provinces of germany, russia, austria. they collapsed in less than 1 year.
open wikipedia they were created (in 1920) before partition of poland (in 1939).
russia owns all lands and nations that live in russian lebensraum that are populated by russians, everybody who has claim will die and will be slaughtered. this lands include russia, ukraine, belarus, kazahstan etc
poland was partitioned because they had ancient russian lands. they will be partitioned and slaughtered again if they try to have 1 sm^2 again.
everything is simple as that lol
Jaxon Carter
>Polaks migrated from Ukraine being christcucks- fact
You are wrong and a fool. Poles are native to Poland. Lusatian culture. Google it.
>They flipped their religion in order to trick pipal support to gain clay from pagans- fact.
Flipped? Are you autistic? Catholicism is intertwined with the Polish ethnicity.
>There are NONE non Christian, non genetically slav single archaeological proof for polaks to be there before 10th century- fact.
Lusatian culture. Kys.
>Polaks are eternal migrants from Khazaria - the end!
Poles share no genetic relation to the area of Khazaria whatsoever. You are spewing straight bullshit. The Proto-Slavs may have come from there, but not modern Poles, a Lechitic tribe.
The entire 900 mile border of belarus and ukraine consists of the pripyat marsh.
West Ukraine you are right but it is only not Polish because Poles gave up claim post war in exchange for Silesia. I'm explaining why Ukraine and Belarus exist at all, and it is because the area between lviv and kiev and between brest and mazyr is unconquerable. It is same reason slovakia exists or why the ottomans never managed to subdue greek mountain regions
Just accept it- pooland is fake nation created by christcuckery on a pagan clay (remember, pagans didn't believe in sun, water, land to be possession of humans) in 10th century on pagan host clay. Even as it comes to (((countries))) polak self validation is a joke
>they were temporarily created from former provinces of germany, russia, austria. they collapsed in less than 1 year.
What a fucking sure coincidence you forgot to mention Poland.
>russia owns all lands and nations that live in russian lebensraum that are populated by russians, everybody who has claim will die and will be slaughtered. this lands include russia, ukraine, belarus, kazahstan etc
Kazakhstan yes, Belarus and Ukraine no since they are Polish clay. They are Polish. Deal with it, vatnik scum. You will be slaughtered first.
>poland was partitioned because they had ancient russian lands. they will be partitioned and slaughtered again if they try to have 1 sm^2 again.
How is that even fucking possible if Poland PREDATES Russia? Please name me any instance of East Slavs venturing that far into West Slavic land. Russians share no connection to it whatsoever and you are a fucking idiot.
>everything is simple as that lol
Nope, youre a fucking moron. Especially with that last statement.
Charles Hernandez
> >Following Soviet occupation during & after WW2, Russians ethnically cleasned the Polish populations
Utter absolute bullshit Of course no source since it's polish propaganda The sentence alone gives it away How can one be cleansed by "Russians" when the Soviet leadership was entirely non-russian?! The hight sovet (Commie version of Senate populed exclusevly by high ranked part member s) hast More Latvians than Russians!
The only people who were cleansed we're Orthodox Christian Russians and the number is over 15million Fuck of polackennigger
Protoshit etc... Read up about native Celtic, Baltic, Germanic people's, about (((sudden))) creation of cuckdom of poolan in 10th century in Mosurien. You must be a slavenigger to be that stupid
world was 2 ended in 1945, ukraine was created in 1919, belorussia in 1920 >False, they were created after WW2 1919 < 1945 and 1920
David Gutierrez
>fake nation created by christcuckery on a pagan clay Just like England, Scotland and Wales.
Adrian Brown
>poland was partitioned because they had ancient russian lands. they will be partitioned and slaughtered again if they try to have 1 sm^2 again.
This is exactly why Russians like you need to be genocided. Poland was partioneded because Russians shook hands with Austrians and Germans to defeat them.
How can Poland, a nation that has existed before Russia, be Russian land? That makes no sense. Russians have never had any presence there. They have never even ventured that far west.
Mark my words, you will get genocided.
Asher Adams
I'm Polish and half my family is blonde hair blue eyed with nordic features. The nazis said that aryan type was common in poland and over 200,000 aryan polish children were brought to germany to be germanised.
As if yours are any credible, lmfao. You literally just tried to claim that Poland is Russian clay, despite the fact that Russians have never had a presence whatsoever in these lands until the Partitions. Fucking neck yourself.
Kek.
You do realize that blonde hair and blue eyes are not an exclusive Nordic trait?
Luke Hill
Imperialism and having no morals are in the blood of each Russian.
One day the ovens will take them.
James Lee
>Screeching Polish Autists If you want the land back take it then. What are you going to do with it, larp as the PLC. Get a fucking grip the lands you currently own is much better than anything east of you. Jesus it’s like Poles want to get into a conflict with Russia.
Parker Wright
russians own their lebensraum , everybody who comes there with weapon will be slaughtered and turned into manur ( like in donbass lol), their cities will be nuked, all water and food soures poisoned.
>russians own their lebensraum , everybody who comes there with weapon will be slaughtered and turned into manur ( like in donbass lol), their cities will be nuked, all water and food soures poisoned.
Stop stealing German terms. Russians are subhumans who themselves are due for a slaughter. And what makes you think Russia's nukes are better than NATOs?
Kevin Williams
Clueless about Roman, Viking rule, irrelevant to fake (((nation))) of Pooland ?
Colton Lewis
Silesia
Anthony Barnes
russians slaughtered all people that wanted to slaughter them lol everything is as simple as that
russians are superior engineers and mathematicians (on pair with jews), in capitalistic system (free from communistic opression) nobody in the earth will be able to compete with russians very soon
Adrian Sanchez
>Clueless about Roman rule perfectly not. (((you))) weren't white even thousands years ago and will never be.
"haha remembering nations is hard lets just make big blobs haha :DDDD" you fucking coon mutt piece of shit stop trying to "fix" the world you just make shit worse we can shoot the psheks and the muscovites if we want to, stop trying to be world police
Jaxon Bell
Simple, because you couldn't take it.
Nathan Cook
>Poland lost 20% of its territory that’s a lot And your point? Oh wait I know let’s make another thread about how we should get our lands back, right guys. Because it’s totally feasible and not the least bit retarded in the slightest.
Gavin Allen
>Utter absolute bullshit. Of course no source since it's polish propaganda.
>The sentence alone gives it away How can one be cleansed by "Russians" when the Soviet leadership was entirely non-russian?!
Because they ethnically cleansed the native Poles living there? Dumbass.
>The only people who were cleansed we're Orthodox Christian Russians and the number is over 15millions.
- Soviet NKVD Order #00485 - Soviet deportations of Polish citizens to gulags and repressions
Nathaniel Mitchell
>ukraine >still exist what did he mean by this?
Nathan Perry
before resettlement of germans after ww2 poland owned lands that were german. non-nazi germany had all rights on that lands. German and russian lands were given to poland (by UK and France) ONLY with purpose to start another war in europe
Lincoln Edwards
t.memeflaggot
Aaron Flores
>"You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me
Wew, lads. Glad there is a new testament, desu.
Ian Bailey
>russians slaughtered all people that wanted to slaughter them lol >everything is as simple as that >russians are superior engineers and mathematicians (on pair with jews), in capitalistic system (free from communistic opression) nobody in the earth will be able to compete with russians very soon
Imagine actually believing this.
Russians slaughtered because they are barbarians with no morals.
And how are they "superior" engineers and mathematicians yet still have been a peasant society up until literally last century, when the rest of Europe outgrew peasantry around the 18th century?
You also made me chuckle when you said that nobody on earth will compete with you. You can't even feed yourselves and our sanctions have caused your retirement age to go up. Not to mention your average life expectancy is 65.
Russophiles are pathetic idiots.
Ryan Scott
Your territory is Polish land. Your ethnicity is fake.
>Your territory is British,French, and Spanish land >your ethnicity is fake Wow I didint know making arguments was that simple
Carter Watson
Lol nigger the city with the most polish people in the world is Chicago
There are like 10 million pollocks in America including me
Chase Edwards
Then go back to your country and join the army or some shit. Do something more productive with your time instead shit posting on Jow Forums
Benjamin Johnson
Silesians are not Germans, Shlomo stop spreading Fake News.
Carter Cox
I'm also Polak in US, if Hillary won, half or mor would have gone back.
Jordan Thomas
No way kraut, my family has done very well in America and I think I’ll stay here.
Also why leave when trump keeps winning #maga
Gabriel Perry
>Russians slaughtered because they are barbarians with no morals. My bro, I have in my possession a translation of Dostoyevskís The Humiliated and Insulted and I would contend with you that this Russian was indeed a very tender person.
Angel Miller
1)doesnt matter russians have lebensraum people who come there will be slaughtered, their cities nuked, food and water sources poisoned. even air will be poisoned lol 3)russians are superior in this fields. in math they are on pair with jews. 3)europe was rural in 20 century, open wikipedia, it is same bullshit claim as 1945 and 1920 lol 4)barbarians are good, but pirates are better
“Basedness” is irrelevant. What is relevant is getting rid of the Ukraine, an aberration of history and an eyesore on the map of Europe. Whether it all goes to Russia or is partitioned between Poland and Russia ultimately doesn’t matter.
>Ukraine >claims to be successor of the Rus' >the Rus' was founded by the Rurikids >Lviv was also founded by a Rurikid (Daniel of Galicia) >Russia was founded by the Rurikids as a successor to the Rus' >therefore Ukraine is undeniable Russian clay Why are Poles such fucking parasites?
Gavin Perez
>russians have lebensraum
Nope. They don't even have warm sea ports.
>people who come there will be slaughtered, their cities nuked, food and water sources poisoned. even air will be poisoned lol
Russians bitched out in Syria when America bombed Assad's navy. You won't do shit like the cucks you are.
>russians are superior in this fields. in math they are on pair with jews.
Except they aren't, Ivan.
>europe was rural in 20 century, open wikipedia, it is same bullshit claim as 1945 and 1920 lol
Most of Europe ditched peasantry 18th century, peasantry still occured in Russia up until 1920. Mr. Muh-math.
>barbarians are good, but pirates are better
Doesn't help when those barbarians have no morals and think everything belongs to them.
Kayden Johnson
Yea, Belarus and the Ukraine are kinda artificial states without much connection to past countries, like Poland and Russia has.
Though the Ukrainian people are a real ethnic group, and to the Belorussians were, but are being rapidly russified, and will just become another Russian region.
Matthew Kelly
>Belarus >literally "White Russia" Going by that logic, New Mexico belongs to Mexico, and New England should be a part of the UK.
Landon Reyes
>Whether it all goes to Russia or is partitioned between Poland and Russia ultimately doesn’t matter.
Why would it all go to Russia, Poland would rightly get most of it since Central and West Ukraine have been under Polish control for over 600+ years. Russians would only get the east.
>literally "White Russia"
Your point? This are was populated by Poles. They built the cities there, Belarusians lived in the fields.
>Lviv was also founded by a Rurikid (Daniel of Galicia)
All the architecture and culture in Lwow is Polish you dumbfuck.
Also Lwow, as well as other parts of western Ukraine are rightful Polish clay.
Just as Prussia, Danzig and lower Silesia are rightfully German.
David Gutierrez
rus is not russia, amerimutt education
Nicholas Moore
>Most of Europe ditched peasantry 18th century, peasantry still occured in Russia up until 1920. Mr. Muh-math Russian serfdom was abolished in 1861, tard
Brody Ross
1)you have butthurt, russians have lebensraum
>Most of Europe ditched peasantry 18th century, > 18th century, 2)you are braindead VEGETABLE LOL pic - proof
>Us Americans should help them. Not me. Not my kid. YOU should slap the communist sympathizers in your family that voted for Roosevelt. It is THEIR fault.
You want me to clean up a mess created by YOUR liberal family members? I have enough issue with cleaning up after my conservacucked family members.
Get fucked.
Unless you want to do a trade off.
I'll sacrifice myself to help Poland if you snuff out every liberal in your family down to 5th cousins.
And this is Gdańsk, city built by Poles and owned by Poles for 800+ years (and occupied by germs for 100+ years) => youtube.com/watch?v=XvknNZURjSI
Also following your logic USA should be Polish rightful clay all the way. Most of settlers in 1st succesful european settlement in USA were Poles. Read about Poles and Jamestown. We should deport you from Polish rightful clay in north america for being stupid uneducated retard
>Your point? This are was populated by Poles. They built the cities there, Belarusians lived in the fields.
No, Belarus was not populated by Poles, you spastic. Most "Poles" living in Belarus were literally poorly Polonized Belorussians, and Brest was the only city I can think of that they put any effort into developing. >All the architecture and culture in Lwow is Polish you dumbfuck. Lol. What a thought out argument that Polak loving retards love using. I guess all the Prussian and Pomeranian territory you took from Germany should be returned, then.
Michael Collins
But we give Poland Selesia and East Prussia is exchange for annexed lands.
Ethan King
>Just as Prussia, Danzig and lower Silesia are rightfully German
This is where it gets complicated because Danzig was found by a Polish king and has swapped hands between Germans and Poles many times. Both groups lived in this city after all. Also, Silesians are their own thing and have been under control by Poles, Czechs and Germans simulataneosly
Cooper Ortiz
Doesn’t change the fact that Russia was peasant right up until 1920 tard. Russians never even had a urban center until Moscow.
Lincoln Lopez
russians stole everything on their way, they were stealing even fcking electric poles or retaining bars in the mines, im not even gonna mention train tracks. You literaly took developed, resource rich and geostrategicly important land and gave us wasteland in return.
