HACKED BY CHINESE: China inserted surveillance microchip in servers used by Amazon and Apple

If you know about computers, then you realize that this kind of attack is scary as fuck.

bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
lawfareblog.com/china-supermicro-hack-about-bloomberg-report
youtube.com/watch?v=6Pf3pY3GxBM
aws.amazon.com/blogs/security/setting-the-record-straight-on-bloomberg-businessweeks-erroneous-article/
investopedia.com/news/facebook-google-digital-ad-market-share-drops-amazon-climbs/
archive.is/ja29g
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Hey guys, buy Chinese products, they're cheaper you know! Also, this guy who paid for my holiday to China told me to say that, but pay no attention to him, a gweillo like you can't even pronounce his name.

Explain how it's scary. You're acting as though China hasn't done this sort of shit up until now.

You know, those servers were probably already located in China so Amazon could get around Western data protection laws and other bs.

You realize that every Chinese chip made has had a backdoor in it for years, right? Like, literally, every single microchip has been shipped as compromised.

Trump purged the military of every single chinese microchip they could find. This is old news.

>You know, those servers were probably already located in China so Amazon could get around Western data protection laws and other bs.

At least read the fucking article before you start spouting bullshit.

not even chinks are safe

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You might be an idiot or a blue pill, I don't know.

The shit about the jews? Yeah that's a distraction to alienate the normies and make us look insane, now China are the real force behind cultural Marxism because they know how goddamn destructive it is.

Yes, and literally everything from China should be boycotted including and especially their tourist army.

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WRONG

>Elemental’s servers could be found in Department of Defense data centers, the CIA’s drone operations, and the onboard networks of Navy warships.

Pretty much this. It's a normal human response not to trust the Chinese at this point. Nobody's surprised China is on the offensive.
I'm rather surprised the Chinese built something of their own for once. Although, I shouldn't hold my breath as they probably stole that chip idea and schematics from the NSA or FBI.

>not even chinks are safe
Someday you nogs will realize how much better life was under white rule. When America falls they chinks are going to strip mine Africa and then probably eat you all. I mean, they eat dogs after all.

>tourist army.
You cobbers need to start robbing those rude ass chink tourists. They do the same to us in their country. Turn about is fair play.

chinese and russian hackers are seriously overpowered, i never hear something in the news about western hackers

Amazon and Apple have already called this report total bullshit.

The CIA hacked Iran's nuclear enrichment centrifuges via infected USB drives:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

You don't understand business.

These idiots see that Chinese goods are a tenth of the price and completely fail to realise "you get what you paid for" is taken more seriously in China than the west. Chinese workers (depending on where you are, between 10 to 30% of them are technically spies) and Chinese goods are everywhere.

Seems insane? I red pilled a Chinese person at work and an older Chinese person made a call, the person I was talking to got a call a minute later, and then they both continued on but never spoke at the same time.

This shit is scary. I am scared for Chinese people who aren't dirty commies.

That's not how we do things.

Declare China a belligerent nation or sponsor of terorism (true or likely true) and then deny them tourist visas.

Russian hackers are just trolls and thieves the Russian authorities can't be fucked prosecuting. Quite honestly, they din du nuffin wrong.

Also, half of the turn out to be Eastern Europeans, not Russians, like Romanians or Hungarians.

Of course they would say that. Do you really think Amazon wants to tell all their AWS customers "Hey, we totally got hacked by Chinese, but don't worry just keep running your software on our cloud!"?

>according to one person familiar with the process.

>Multiple people familiar with the matter

>In emailed statements, Amazon (which announced its acquisition of Elemental in September 2015), Apple, and Supermicro disputed summaries of Bloomberg Businessweek’s reporting.


> “It’s untrue that AWS knew about a supply chain compromise, an issue with malicious chips, or hardware modifications when acquiring Elemental,” Amazon wrote. “On this we can be very clear: Apple has never found malicious chips,

Good! Fucking good!

A nuclear Iran is a dumb thing to allow. Sure, it'll be Israel nuked and most people here won't care (dear Israel, start playing nice with the west, sharing is caring you know, and we might care in kind, signed, someone red pilled), but whose next? Oops, suddenly they backed Pakistan, oops, suddenly India is uninhabitable. Oops, suddenly Chinese people don't want to live in China. Oops, suddenly there's a flood of Indians, Chinese and Pakistanis in our country like you wouldn't believe.

If you're not NATO, I don't support your security and neither should you.

Amazon would say "we found the problem and we have corrected it"

>all this hacking
>still cant get white gf

The NSA and tech conglomerates like google have root access through the OS and networking hardware, but the chinese have always had root via the motherboard, other hardware components

stole their way back to the top just like the americans

If you knew anything about computers you would understand it's not real faggots, you cant make a chip as small as they are saying that can do what they are saying it can do. If nanoprocessors of that scale existed with such sophistication our world would be a lot different.

I understand everything in that article, just not the title and reasoning why it is China. There's no proof it is China, those companies weren't Chinese companies, they were American companies. The article is speculating that China might be behind the hack, but why? Can't USA do it?

The chip doesn't have to do much. Just modify what something like the results of reading tthe EEPROM to alter the BMC and use the rest of the regular hardware to do stuff. Read this:

lawfareblog.com/china-supermicro-hack-about-bloomberg-report

The author of the article, Jordan Robertson, is the proud recipient of a 'PhD of banya journalism' from @e_kaspersky.

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what schemes has israel done?

No one did it because it's not real, you can't make a nanoprocessor that small that not only can connect to a network but have the memory and processing capability to modify a system during run time injecting machine code or modifying memory. It's not possible.

But what it means?

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Guarantee you that if they put that out then its only on shit they don't use, or have already phased out.

Pretty sure it was Israel not the C_A

I was agreeing with you retard. The Chinese are known for their shady ass shit, from spying to hacking. Nobody trusts the Chinese. Not even Chinese people trust each other.
Although, let's not pretend like our governments would be any different. They've done this shit too, such as the Prism programme. The only difference is that you're picking between a chink hacking you for cheap, or your own government hacking you at a premium.

WTF I'd a nano processor?

Fuck you Chink agitprop.

All processors are nanoscale and this is entirely possible.

The boards are all manufactured in China. In addition on Supermicro:

>The majority of its workforce in San Jose [California] is Taiwanese or Chinese, and Mandarin is the preferred language, with hanzi filling the whiteboards, according to six former employees. Chinese pastries are delivered every week, and many routine calls are done twice, once for English-only workers and again in Mandarin. The latter are more productive, according to people who’ve been on both. These overseas ties, especially the widespread use of Mandarin, would have made it easier for China to gain an understanding of Supermicro’s operations and potentially to infiltrate the company.

The NSA has had backdoors into servers and computers for years now. We were already unsafe.

We need hardware neutrality and net neutrality.

So what? Supermicro is the company, they got decades times to look into what they ordered China to produce. It's their instructions. China didn't invent that bullshit, Supermicro gave them the orders and they should probably check what China has made once every while LOL.

The chip doesn't needs any of that shit dumb fuck. It just has to take over at the BMC or BIOS level and use the regular hardware (including memory, networking etc).

Is it racist if I literally see a single and available woman there?

Must I remind everyone that when Mike Rodgers from the nsa went and visited trump the day after he won and told him about the spying that was when everything changed. The good guys were now able to get their own warrant, with actual verifiable evidence and the rest is history. Don't you guys realize that the nsa had every email, every text message, every voice call that the cabal ever had? Think about that for a second. ALL COMMUNICATIONS.

No!

We're only agreeing on most things because
>Nobody trusts the Chinese.
This isn't true.

Boomers are cucks and gen x (and millenial women) are so apathetic some of them want to see the world end. They think it's racist not to trust the Chinese besides a tiny smear of red pilled non millennials.

Only millennial men are red pilled and even then less than half of them. The others are cucks that still think someone will look after them if shit hits the fans, like making a deal with Satan and becoming surprised when you burn in hell.

>Although, let's not pretend like our governments would be any different. They've done this shit too, such as the Prism programme.
That's not for the economic interests of a foreign nation that's plausibly nationalist socialist.

Yes, NATO and the eyes allies do this shit. No, it's not for personal gain. It's to prevent crime. There's a clear and obvious difference. China go so far as to hack student elections, we don't do this because there's no feasible link to any crime.

But sure, keep hating the west. I'll giggle when the sarin gas comes, I heard if you don't fear it that it feels like meth when you die.

There is open source hardware but nobody uses it.

youtube.com/watch?v=6Pf3pY3GxBM
A hardware vulnerability only has to fuck with circuitry, the current, or something else; a small bit of fuckery that an external tool can directly exploit. You might not be able to tap into it using Wi-Fi or software, but there'd be a means of a way.
It could be a tiny-ass ROM with some VHDL that fucks with the entire component. You never know.

I'm pretty sure my University is just a front for the Chinese government.
These kids cheat their way through their entire degree and nothing is actually done about it.

Open source hardware doesn't solve this problem. What are you going to do fab your own microcontrollers?

All the human trafficking, all the drug running, all the murders? Do you guys see it yet?

Do you go to Waterloo or Toronto?

Hahaha china my ass. Those people are too stupid to do something so creative and diabolical. This is computers, this isn't boiling a dog and skinning it alive. If the west hadn't decided to use their expendable population to build computers out of hazardous materials, those people would still use an abacus.

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Open source doesn't means hardware neutrality if there is no organization that checks if there is tampering involved. This is why it is important to not employ retards like Merkel and those billionaires and their sons at top positions just because they got money. It has to be somebody who actually cares and understands. If nobody checks at FCC if hardware for network is legal, then basically all of modems could be compromised by spy chips and software. That's FCC's job, to check if ISPs install hardware/software as defined in law. They can also sleep at FCC and not check anything. Similar thing to this story in this thread or open source hardware. Somebody has to shit check it.

>Americans have their spy chips produced in other countries to save a few bucks
>China copies them for their own use
Who could have seen that one coming?

>What are you going to do fab your own microcontrollers?
You're going to buy something not made in china.

Open source basically means "use at your own risk" because if you have the aptitude to use anything open source at all it's implied that you know the risks and what you're doing.

They thought Amazon was unstoppable but turns out they have some chinks in their armor after all

it's almost as if we shouldn't rely on a foreign country to manufacture all our shit. especially one that is not exactly one of our closer allies.

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Did you hear about the world's best hacker?

Neither did I ;)

Yes, but open source also means meany people, not just one corporate company, works on the project, so there are more chances somebody could discover spying code. You can't discover spying code in Microsoft, because Microsoft won't give you access to every code and every intel chip, it's not open source. They provide to you some access to their code, but not to directly read their code. Microsoft developer program will tell you this is the dll where this functionality comes from, but they can also not tell you the whole story.

>Amazon and Apple
Get fucked kikes. I'll start caring about Chinese invasion when you aren't pulling a full court press against the white world already. If we go down, you come with us. Shalom faggots.

Here your shitty server....Merican dog

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Get your Shitty Wok away from my Shitty Sushi

But surely you can trust the Israelis to design the CPUs you use in almost every computer. No way they'd ever do something like put a backdoor in there.

>scary
Get out soiboy.

It's not hard to get a processor from UK, South Korea, Germany, or Oregon/New York.

AWS says its bullshit. But, who knows.
aws.amazon.com/blogs/security/setting-the-record-straight-on-bloomberg-businessweeks-erroneous-article/

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At least Supermicro is getting BTFO in market.

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it turned he was a schizo white guy lol.

Well maybe Amazon and apple should know that it isn't all about the bottom line and build their shit here. As long as they use China for production they should just assume any and all data is being stolen or accessible. People using AWS should be fucking pissed. But they won't because 'cloud' is so cool.

1) not surprised
2) not sure the average joe keeps up with "chip" news.
3) fuck china the sooner we torch them the better. i remember my dad telling me when i was young to watch out of china. turns out the bastard was right.
4) i think Trump understand the threat Chinka poses.

South Korea - you mean the Samsung Exynos?
Which processors do the UK and Germany produce?
All other American processor producers are dwarfed by Intel. Almost all network infrastructure, millitary, and government computers run Isreali-backdoored CPUs.

Wow, I can't believe (((Google's))) biggest competitors have CHINESE SPY CHIPS in their tablets and phones. Good thing my (((android device))) doesnt have chinese malware!

investopedia.com/news/facebook-google-digital-ad-market-share-drops-amazon-climbs/
archive.is/ja29g

Every Intel computer got a virtual remote accessed machine built in on a chip, intel sure has and that's not even a secret. You can find it in Wikipedia if you know what you reading. So what does that means? That somebody could remotely connect to any intel computer, bypass software OS.

If peeps really wanted to look into this start checking what protection ring are in cpus.

Not only that, every modern Intel CPU has an on-chip 3G modem.
I wish I was kidding.

can i ask why they built that into the chips?

>cianiggers install backdoors into all of our hardware
>chinagooks find and use them
>REEEEEEE HOW COULD CHINA DO THIS???

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How do you think those viruses spread? Maybe somebody wants them to spread so they can sell antivirus. It's not a virus if it's packaged as your program from corporate company. There could also be something in code, not hardware, but regular code of Microsoft, they system part, which is used by all programs to pass your pictures through it and that again passes it somewhere else, to some dll you don't know about and that dll passes it to some chip. We are dealing here with chips who directly access user memory, so if it is direct and they can remotely communicate, then what else do you need?

Why should I care?

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Giv location on die. Any chip model will do.

I'm not surprised at all. The idea that we can outsource all our sensitive technologies to our enemies and not face any consequences is laughable. Our trade deals that large companies exploit have totally weekended us, and taken advantage of slavery and things considered immoral and illegal in this country, just show us where we are headed.

What?! Why would two of our leftist companies run by commies work with the Chicomms to spy on America and subvert us?! Oh never mind, it's okay because Tim Cook and Jeff Bezos love sucking cock and drinking semen, so it's okay, we're not allowed to be upset with them.

So they can watch you masturbate to anime or perhaps use your data to always come at top in stocks or win other lotteries.

Read up on Intel vPro. They advertised this themselves.

Forgot picture.

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>The idea that we can outsource all our sensitive technologies to our enemies and not face any consequences is laughable.
This.

>masturbate anime

just die 14 year old

walk in front of a train while playing a dumb game

>outsource
They produce it. How more can you outsource? It's rather reverse, Americans outsource Chinese technology. Bosses don't know how things work or they only understand it from high view, but workers who put that together know it, those little Chinese people.

14 year old isn't even legal age for masturbation to anime. Tentacles are way about Playboy age.

Boomer leave.

>their tourist army.
Their population relocation army needs to be stopped as well.

Or we could deal with the (((people))) who keep letting them in.

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an infinite number of feelings to be and you decide to be salty

retarded, semi-conductors and chips are not made in china, unless your buying some retarded chink phone with a chin arm cpu. Most that shit if it is a quality good uses a quality component made in nip land, or taiwan.

why i have to open that link and support "Bloomberg" to read this article? Come one freinds, we know better.

That'd be fine too, they're both enemies of the US

If you look at world's top companies of anything in globalism that won't tell you where they actually physically produce it, it just tells you where companies are. You can order chips, like you order food in supermarket. Supermarket doesn't produces it, even more so the product that was imported from Spain might have ingredients from 3 other countries and at end you have an American brand in supermarket.

Oh no, those poor super wealthy. Let me shed my tears for them.

well.... not exactly surprising is it?

that's what you get for outsourcing all this shit, they have lit all fucking asked for it... fucking morons, everything for saving those few extra bucks.

would also explain how they have been able to steal so much shit from esp the us, they sent them glow in the dark hardware

Pakistan already has nukes dimwit.

How do you think this only affects the super wealthy? Are you stupid?

Why would the Chinese government want to check out my porn folder? I'd rather let them spy on me than the NSA.

You know this is just kike fuckery to crash AMD