Americans pretend that their freedom of speech is their holiest of holy beliefs

Top middle is asking for it. The others not so much.

>Americans think they're free
>their constitution prevents owning slaves
>dozens of actions are illegal
>owning certain kinds of media is also illegal
So how are they free again?

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Nigger, put these kikes in cattle cars bound for Neptune’s embrace.

US law treats firing from a job and attacks to be freedom of expression?

t. pedo and NEET

Fuck do you mean "can't"? They can say nigger all they want.

Notice here in Canada every politician that liberals call racist get a overwhelming majority vote?

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What are you talking about? Attacking people is illegal. As far as firing people, that has nothing to do with freedom of expression. It has to do with business owners being able to decide how they want their company represented. I shouldn't have to employ people I think are making my business look bad or politicized.

Re read the 14th ammendment, we can still own slaves

>the government won't punish you, but it'll allow mob justice destroy your livelihood
Same difference.

constitution only protects people from state abuse. I may have a right to say nigger but contrast people have a right to criticize and/or not associate with me.

What "mob justice?" You mean people not buying things from merchants that call them "niggers?" Yeah, the government definitely allows that, moron.

>It has to do with business owners being able to decide how they want their company represented
An employee is not company property. What I say in my private life is my private business. If people conflate that to harm my livelihood, then those people should be the target of social consequences, as someone here called it, not me.

Your constitution forbids it.

If you don't have the freedom from those consequences then what freedom do you have?

The kind of mob justice that completely obliterates peoples lives because they decided to make use of their rights. Why are you pretending that this doesn't happen?

No it doesnt. Re read the 14th ammendment

You can say it but society will harm you
This term enrage many people in the USA so they won't say it to avoid social issues

If they think it will hurt their business, they should definitely fire you. Why are you acting like employment is some magical protected status? Businesses should be able to fire you for any reason they see fit to. People get fired or not hired for being black all the time. I've seen it happen in several of the restaurants I used to work at.

Just did. It confirms what I say.

>prevents owning slaves
What about all those mexicans working for minimal wage?

Of people find out you work for me and you’ve said stupid shit it will definitely be bad for my business

What kind of fantasy world do you live in kid?

>attacks
No, unless you're in a socialist shithole like Southern California or Baltimore where the cops are crooked faggots who look for any excuse to let leftist protesters get away with as much as possible.

so if i state that i have an attraction for prepubescent children but claim never to act on it would you still want me to be an elementry school teacher?

The freedom to choose to accept those consequences or not. Are you retarded? Are you defining "freedom" as the ability to do whatever you want with no consequence or repercussions? All actions have those. We have freedom from the state. Compare this to Saudi Arabia where atheists are given lashings and imprisoned.
>run a business
>spend all your free time tweeting about how much you have niggers and queers
>hurr Durr, why doesn't niggers and queers and people who are friends with niggers and queers shop here anymore
Gee, I wonder.

You don't have to pay slaves.

Sorry it's the 13th. And slavery is still permitted as a punishment. You can own slaves if you own a prison

Sauce?

It used to be the only reason you didn’t say nigger was if there were blacks around and you wanted to avoid a chimpout. Now people do not say it because they are afraid they will be seen as problematic by white, Asian or spic women and (mostly white) faggots.

>Why are you acting like employment is some magical protected status?
I'm not. Please re-read the post you replied to. I don't feel like repeating myself.

I did not state otherwise. Reading comprehension is a bitch, isn't it. I was arguing that if freedom of speech was truly a value that the US population holds dear, they'd consider the difference between private life and professional life. Since freedom of speech is a joke in the US, people will deliberately connect to two for the sole purpose of harming you.

>It doesn't happen except when it happens.
Wow.

>Are you defining "freedom" as the ability to do whatever you want with no consequence or repercussions?
Yes, that is what freedom is.
>

*hate

is this loss?

>What I say in my private life is my private business.

Running around the streets garbed only in a nazi flag screaming I HATE NIGGERS while being filmed and posting Stormfront links on your social media isn't private

prisoners are actually paid, albeit pennies an hour.

Actually, it is. Note the context, private versus business. Are you deliberately misrepresenting my argument, or are you that stupid?

Not all of them
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_States

It rarely happens, and when it does people get sent to prison you strawman-shitting faggot

I interpret this as they want some of that REAL RAPE not this weak date rape or who could know what consent is rape.

what is free association, alex?

>they'd consider the difference between private life and professional life
That's a false dichotomy and there is no legal precedent that states the two are in any way separate.
>Yes, that is what freedom is.
There are many definitions of "freedom." In the USA, you can not be arrested, beaten, or fined for making statements about personal beliefs. That is the freedom we have. You want some magical fairy land where everyone respects each other's ideas, yet the example being given is the word "nigger" which necessarily means that some people aren't being respected. Sorry, that's not how it works, kiddo. Read a history book or look at the Middle East if you want to see what a nation without protected speech looks like.

>It rarely happens, and when it does people get sent to prison you strawman-shitting faggot
So my life is in ruins and people step over their holiest right as if it was a pile of dog-turds, but at least someone else got punished too, so it's ok.

I don't know. Feel free to explain.

>That's a false dichotomy and there is no legal precedent that states the two are in any way separate.
What's your point? An authority states something so you accept it blindly?

I want to enslave niggers and Jews as a punishment for being niggers and Jews.

You can say nigger.
People say nigger all the time.
Its generally not a good idea to say nigger to a black person because they will use it as an excuse to go into a feral frenzy.

I mean that's pretty much what the private prison system does to niggers lol

>do shit that can be verified as (You) and is potentially damaging to the business that pays you
>they should be forced to do nothing because technically you weren't on the clock

Saying gas the kikes is perfectly fine as long as you're not a retard about it.

Some words are bad. Okay?
That's the end of it.

It doesn't have to be about law.

What is this picture supposed to be saying

The one on the top right is a dude.

>they should be forced to do nothing because technically you weren't on the clock
>forced
No, they shouldn't act voluntarily. Because they are as well US citizens and therefore should at least respect the rights of other citizens.

>What's your point?
My point is that you can have professional consequences for personal actions. How is that hard to understand. If I own a business, and someone who works for me is known for screaming racial slurs at people, why would I want them to interact with my customers? Why would I run the risk of having someone not give me their business so you can keep being angry and mean?

Well shouldn't the other person respect their bosses right to fire them?
You know freedom of association?

Its a matter of class

Backpedaling

>therefore should at least respect the rights of other citizens
As (You) should respect their right to fire your dumb ass for sperging out in a way that makes them look bad

Women on feminism look like men so I assumed he was one of those. My mistake.

You just never understood what I was saying.

Private corporations are in charge of law enforcement in the US?
Private corporations are in charge of raising citizens in the US?
What do you call it when you give a corporation the right to enact punishment on an innocent citizen? Freedom?

Then please clarify. Can I fire an employee in the US for whatever reason? Can I fire them if I don't like their skin color? For the sake of your argument, I hope the answer to this question is yes, because otherwise you've got none.
If a private corporation can fire citizens without them breaking any laws, then you must be able to do so for any reason you choose. The question is, can you?

Social consequences are the thing you have to look out for. There's no law against it.

Hit 1 if you have yelled Nigger in public.

prisonpolicy.org/blog/2017/04/10/wages/

>Social consequences are the thing you have to look out for. There's no law against it.
Say something.
Mob justice hunts you down and burns your life to ashes.
>b…but the government didn't do it, so it's fine

I mean you can kind of fire someone based on their asking color.
It depends on the size of the business, and you can fire anyone you want you just gotta jazz it up. It may be because they are black, but say they arent meeting performance requirements.

Government is supposed to protect me from those ass holes and depending on where one lives, they do.

Yeah not all of them get paid, what's your point?

>being fired from your job is equivalent to being imprisoned and beaten
1st world problems

Language denial psyop to splice who can talk about what with ((((legitimacy))))

>Absolute power of private property

And now we see the real reason the Constitution and the government were created, to protect America's ruling oligarchy from its enemies, both foreign and domestic.

>and you can fire anyone you want you just gotta jazz it up. It may be because they are black, but say they arent meeting performance requirements
Sure, but that's not the point.

They don't. They can punish the mob, but the damage is done. Everyone cares about headlines, nobody cares about retractions.

>being fired from your job is equivalent to being imprisoned and beaten
Thank god nobody even remotely suggested anything like that.

>waaah I have to live with the consequences of my myopic choices.

>If a private corporation can fire citizens without them breaking any laws
Of course they can. There's no legal statute that says being bad at your job is a crime. You're bound by contract with your employer (which usually includes reasons under which you can be fired). If you feel you were fired for something not in the contract you can take it to court.

There's always my 2nd amendment rights to. If they want to attack me at my house I have a right to spray the mob with lead.
Same goes for back in the day when the NRA first gave freed slaves rifles for protection for that day's equivalent. Same thing.

>Thank god nobody even remotely suggested anything like that.
>Private corporations are in charge of law enforcement in the US?
>Private corporations are in charge of raising citizens in the US?
>What do you call it when you give a corporation the right to enact punishment on an innocent citizen?

Yeah, okay moron.

>can you fire someone for being black
>yes, you just have to not say it is for being black
>that's not the point
Wtf? I just told you, that you could. If your business is less than 15 people you can straight up tell niggers to hit the bricks.

No one has actual freedom of speech. Retaliation for immoral speech speech is just outsourced to corporations and protected classes.

You can say nigger, if you do it around blacks though they'll probably beat you up but they would also go to jail

>>Can't say nigger.

You can say nigger in public, you simply have to back it up with violence, because that is what you'll be met with lol

How does it end

When I name my dog Nigger.

Well, yes. In a nation that prides itself on the freedom to make those choices this is kind of a big deal.
If you call someone a nigger and they call you something back, then that's a valid use of rights. If they go and rile up a mob to destroy your livelihood, then that's entirely different.

I can fire niggers in the US for the sole reason that they are niggers? If they sue me and I tell the court that I simply don't like niggers, it'll be accepted without further question?

Like I said, nobody suggested what you said. Stop reading shit into this.

>hey nigger
>arf arf

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private property & freedom of association > your fee fees

If your business is less than 15 people, you can straight up say you're fired for being a nigger.

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>they go and rile up a mob to destroy your livelihood, then that's entirely different.
That's illegal, and the police will protect you.
>Like I said, nobody suggested what you said.
You literally equated being fired to being given a punishment by the government. You can backpedaling all you want, but your argument is hyperbolic and absurd.

>I can fire niggers in the US for the sole reason that they are niggers?
As a private small business employer yes, as a company or corporation, no.

One right doesn't trump another. In this case, the right to free speech doesn't trump the right to free association. In other words, you can say whatever you want for whatever reason you want. And someone else can choose not to associate with you for whatever reason they want, up to and including the way you exercise your other rights. Which means if they're your employer, they do not have to continue to employ you.

Meanwhile in Europe, you have neither right. You cannot say "nigger" nor can you fire someone for saying something you dislike.

>their constitution prevents owning slaves
no lol, the average american will spend most of his life being a slave of someone else or in jail

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>hurr, only the first person to act has freedom
I can say what I want.
Private people can do what they want in response to that (short of a criminal response).
I can do what I want in response to their response.
I guess you don't have freedom in your country, because you don't seem to know how it works.

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>I can fire niggers in the US for the sole reason that they are niggers
Yes

>If they sue me and I tell the court that I simply don't like niggers, it'll be accepted without further question?
No

Freedom is the greatest lie of the 21st century.
Women think they're free to dress "however they want" when they're consumerist slaves to a marketing/advertisement culture built on the mammonistic tendencies of a consumerist population.
You think you're "free" to speak, but only so far as the group allows you. You can say "anything" but if you oppose the commune of the hive-mind you are suddenly unemployed, homeless and untouchable.

There is no "freedom", the freedom to consume

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