Reminder while Europeans play castle Chinese invented gunpowder

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Yea but they didn't apply it to anything efficient enough to be used in war. The Hwacha was a joke.

Reminder that after inventing gunpowder chinese did basically nothing worthwhile with it while europeans revolutionized warfare and then conquered the entire world.

Ping pong, my hive mind ching chong!

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This basically.

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nice one

Reminder that the chinese have been historically garbage at sea warfare and kicking their opium habbits.

Accidentally while trying to make some meme medicine.

It took a honky to harness its power though.
Kinda like niggers

You still need that chainmail plus a layer of protective padding to go underneath that plate armor. Also in the late XV there actually were cuirasses strong enough to withstand gunfire.

based and redpilled
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But the Chinese are growing older and older, as does the West.

India, on the other hand, is literally exploding and is able to fuel its steadily growing economy with fresh talent until the songs of liberty and communism have long been forgotten.

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Reminder Chinese invented fireworks
Europeans turned it into gunpowder

After inventing gunpowder the Chinese still played castle. Europeans built ships and conquered the world.

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fun fact, the Tocharian influence on china (both genetic and cultural) is the sole reason they've excelled at anything, ever.. like so many other nations, the influx of indo-european (aryan) blood in their distant past is their only redeeming characteristic, even if now buried under generations of miscegenation

west would still have fucked them up.
Long after the gunpowder came to Europe swords and pikes were still used in combat. I.E winged hussars were fucking up marksmen as their armor was too thick to pierce

Yes give credit where credit is due. They iniated the firearms race and they realised that mass starvation is a much more effective method to kill people.

Gunpowder was useless because there was no way you could really use it.
Europeans did use it but very limited.
Fire arrows were gunpowder things.
Cannons were made (13th centery) but they were too expensive, dangerous and hard to use.

I'm sure they could have made muskets but the bow and arrow was the better option at the time.
The first muskets required a large amount of skill to use and alot of people to maintain (shooters people to keep power and shot supplies up and people to defend the shooter)
The bow requires one person and about 2 weeks of light training to be good with it. And is more versatile and can be deployed in mass.

Not to mention reloading, I can get 2 arrows out before you can cock the gun and 22 arrows put before you can reload.
And your bucket may not even hit me because I can move around and your smooth bore is very inaccurate outside of close range. But I'm very accurate with my bow

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OP fucking rekt

I've worn plate with the gambeson and mail and it dose not weigh that much. Hell, not even the halberd is heavy.
Well made plate is actually quite mobile

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Yep, and when our two cultures met, guess who got the fucking upper hand?

Yeah, it was the guys "playing" castle, having invented better and better war tactics, weapons and armor constantly having to out-do each other.
Meanwhile the Chinese and Japanese were blundering around in armor made of twigs.

and now, as a result, the west is getting overrun and raped with very shitskins whose countries they conquered while China bides it's time and waits to take it's place as the sole world power, all without firing a single shot. Looks like China made the right call.

>you are walking in the woods and suddenly you see this metal man running towards you
>what do

Poke at him with my spear

BWAHAHHAHAHHA

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When Chinese alchemists invented gunpowder it was a mistake. The alchemists were trying to find a potion for immortality and instead they wound up making an explosion. So the opposite effect came out of the original Idea. Gunpowder consists of potassium nitrate, common charcoal, and sulfur.

China - Gunpowder - Four Rivers Charter Public School
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OP is a gookcuck.

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Only because they can't bring themselves to keep shooting them anymore.

The Chinese used gunpowder to make rockets, European people used gun powder to develop self contained cartridges that could be fed into self loading small arms. I think it is amazing how much small arms technology developed in the last half millennia.

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>pic
Car is 90% blind spots what the fuck is there some sort of camera array so you can see what's around you? That looks retarded.

only chinese would play with poop enough to figure out gun powder
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chinese people did not invent gun powder.

They made some sort of flammable powder, but it was not explosive like gunpowder.

We are not allowed to, if permitted, I guarantee you that good citizens would be shooting the fifth columnists hopping across the border. Not with Cuck Justin in charge :(

If you ignite it in a sealed container I'm sure it would still pop.

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Daily reminder that chinks used gunpowder to make pretty banging lights while europe used it to take over most of the world.

>chinese people did not invent gun powder.
Than who did?

They found it by accident. It's not my intention to disregard them, but Europeans have been developing weapons of mass destruction for millenia.

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Shit resolution

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That's a Bertone concept car.
The zero I believe
2 exist and it's the most vaporwave car ever made.

Sure. And then did nothing with it but build fireworks. The irony of your pic is that heavy plate armor was a direct response to the development of firearms. As the power and velocity of firearms increased, metal armor began to fall out of favor and was abandoned all together when common infantry were equiped with relatively reliable and fast firing weapons.

>Be some chink chink
>Live in an area where the clay has a lot of kaolin and feldspar
>Make some pottery with that shit
>It's bretty noice
>Refine the process
>Everyone loves your porcelain and makes their own
>Great stuff
>On the other side of the world all porcelain is called "China"
>Figure that's good enough
>Never invent glass
>No chemistry
>(Glass is chemically inert)
>No lenses, therefore:
>No telescopes
>No microscopes
>No reading glasses
>You could be ruling the world but you got cucked by a tea cup

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Weeeeeee fireworks
t.chink

>2 exist
How many crashes between them? I really want a site linked to their dashcam.

You have to go back pajeet, you filthy streetshitting ass belongs in Asia with the sub-humans.

If I wasn't terminally lazy I'd recreate that pic with the invention of paper, with the chinese holding a crude roll of paper with a few symbols while the west invents the printing press and shits out entire libraries

>put it in some rockets to scare some mongols
>europeans put a man on the moon
eh

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You can get a shitload of peasants to volley fire firearms with less training than it would with skilled bowman (firing line training can be established in less than a week). Oda Nobunaga figured this shit out quickly and used it to his advantage. There's been numerous accounts of this advantageous use in the early matchlock days.

Firearms also exceed the range/lethality of a bow anyway. The hardest obstacle is mass production especially in a pre-industrial revolution society.

>It can go through piles of shit easily.
>Indian shitodynamics

thank you

Yes they did. And they thought fireworks were a good idea for weapons.

Gun Powder made quick work of the Castle "era" though. So everyone wins.

If only the story ended there

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Do you think karma is real then? Since you fucked the world, now the world is fucking you back?

That looks like a car from the 70s.

Good one Hans, didn't see that coming!

>Europeans have been developing weapons of mass destruction for millenia
truely the savage race

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>t.Pajeet

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I'm of the opinion that Europeans invented it on their own.

yeah, it's like the chinks have never ever been raped

Could be. But it's basic regression to the mean, not karma. The life conditions were improved - old people lived more - females were introduced in the work force to keep the elderly alive longer - less kids - immigrants to try and supplement the dying work force - in the end all slowly crumbles to ashes anyway.

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Also China just became a nation of junkies. Fear the eternal anglo.

Too bad they couldn't build ships. I guess their bad driving skills are also related to this same predisposition for navigational handicaps.

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Could the armor on the right be made exactly like that but with modern methods to the point of being fully bulletproof? And could it be made light enough?

But they didn't invent the guns did they?

based chink

B-But they invented fireworks! That totally trumps Europeans inventing cannons and guns!

indian pooper power 2020

how many dogs per day is required to sustain an average chinese citizen?

It's impossible to tell the thickness of the armor on the right. We can look at the extremities but it's not definite indicator. The chest piece could be paper thin or two inches thick for all we know. Putting that problem aside, we -can- make bullet proof vests. Metal isn't the best material for that. Synthetic fiber like kevlar does the job best. You're shooting yourself in the foot if you want to make armor that stops bullets and if you insist that it should be made of metal.

What do you mean bulletproof? There is always a bullet big enough.

>I can get 2 arrows out before you can cock the gun

Yes but it takes a day to make an arrow that will fly right with fletching making the wood shaft and an arrow head but an hour to make 50 musket balls with a mold. That's why they switched.

Reminder that the Chinese "discovered" gunpowder while making "medicine" concoctions, and spent 2000 years unable to figure out how to use it in applications like firearms or artillery beyond rudimentary, primitive, inefficient "flamethrowers" and fireworks. Europeans are handed the same technology and conquer the world within 500 years as a result.

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what;s with all the /his/ memes in here...

Sorry Dutchman.
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>Remember the Chinese invented gunpowder
That's like inventing the wheel but not the axle. The first is completely useless without the other. That is unless you can have an open draw a unicycle

they could but bulk of their trade was inland
why build ships when your trade is via silk road

Why don't you remind also that the USA didn't even exist.

>sinks the entire Chinese fleet solo

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Oxen not open..

model is overly generous as to what size they really were
santa maria wasn't the biggest western ship of the period
that thing is slow af

They discovered the chemical reaction but never refined the mixture to proportions that make actual useful gunpowder.

And then Europeans invented guns, making gunpowder useful.

It's disingenuous to ignore that the musket ball requires gunpowder. It may or may not be harder to produce than arrows depending on natural resources. The cost of making ammunition isn't the real issue, it's training time. Firearm requires less. You cut away 99% of training time switching bow with gun, and because time is everything in war, that means you'll have 10 000 musketeers on the field when the opposing army has 100 bowmen. Modern media has polluted the perception of bows as a weapon for rogues and women when it is a weapon that requires a long period of strength training.

>create something
>never use it for anything properly
wow good job

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Discovered gunpowder by luck while making a magic beverage. High IQ was involved

>Hwacha
Korean

You know that a wooden ship of that size is practically impossible to be seaworthy?

Even in the 20th century with modern shipbuilding techniques, wooden ships even coming close to that size leaked and broke up at sea. See:
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming_(schooner)

>european use of gundpowder
>limited
the only culture that took to guns faster than the europeans were the japanese

ya but they don't get it in AoE2

Spanish ships were TINY to start with. Where some wikifagia info en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-of-war

Oh they could, and they did. Zhu Gaochi put and end to it though.

Reminder that Britbongs got the entire country of China hooked on opium for decades and made them their bitch

>Be Dutch
>copy Chinese pottery
>don't even know how to make porcelain so it's just regular ceramic painted white and blue.
>for some retarded reason everybody loves it more than the original.
>sell your shitty copy to hordes of Chinese tourists

How the fuck did that happen?

EXCELLENT post.

>The bow requires one person and about 2 weeks of light training to be good with it. And is more versatile and can be deployed in mass.