Peterson destroys himself

>the only way to truly win is to lose
WTF is it a Canadian thing to seek moral vindication in being a loser? what the fuck has being USA's hat done to your psyche?

this

I see where he's coming from, but if you think Kav gives a flying fuck about optics, especially after this, you're dead wrong. He has no reason to care about political clout or whatever, and he'd still get harassed even if he stepped down, for years. If his livelihood depended on appearing moral to the 24/7 news cycle and college brats with smelly puss, it might be good, but it doesn't.

Well that and it would further vindicate the use of smear tactics with zero evidence as a political tool.

Into the trash, leaf shown

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Basically this. God Bless that man for standing up straight and fighting back against the destruction of his good name. His only crime was being nominated to the Supreme Court by Donald Trump. For that he will be villainized and scrutinized for the rest of his life. He will always have to worry about his and his family's safety. If he stepped down, he's a rapist. If he fights back he's a rapist. The only thing left to do is ride the tiger.

yeah this is the main thing
for society to accept baseless allegations would be the beginning of the end of civilization

I have never seen a career self-destruct so simply and elegantly
Bravo Peterson

Not a Peterson fan. But to interpret this charitably, I think he meant it in a way that Kaavanaugh should essentially give the middle finger to the country. He would have every right, but probably won't.

It would be kinda bad ass.

Anyway, I hope this is what Peterson meant. If he meant anything else by it, yeah, snake.

Gonna give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

For the most part, I disagree with his message though, so I don't need a silver bullet oh "aha gotcha" moment to pull his methods apart

The idiots inside the IDW (mainly Sam Harris and Bret Weinstein) are pushing this absurd line of reasoning.

GOD CHECKED AMERICA

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>you can never ever be wrong about anything or your life is over

I know we're pretty partisan these days, but I think that's a bit much.

SSRI shill who works for jews, incel and qboomer tier shite

Here then, have this too

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I'm not even hostile to JBP and have defended him on Jow Forums but such a gutless craven and downright ignorant message betrays the ideals that gained him a following to begin with
He's tarnished, time to move on.

He's bought into his own hype. Most things aren't that fucking complicated.

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>time to move on
>shilling this hard.
Yea, I'm a cruzmissile now. This is the end of the peterson campaign for sure
#feelingsleepy

if peterson found a hurt bird he would think about helping it until it died.

>1 post by this ID
fuck off shill

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GAS ALL LEAFS

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Sometimes people are wrong about things. Sounds like he is willing to consider that he is not correct on this one as well. People can make a bad call. If they're rational they'll see sense in the end.

Give SJWs an inch and they take a mile. If Kavanaugh stepped down, next thing you know, they will demand him to step down as a regular judge and retire. Next, They will find out where his wife works and get her fired, and get his kids suspended or expelled from school. Never apologize to an SJW nor do what they want you to do.

how do you pronounce the Greek word for “likes” (χιλ)? Like “heel”?

>By withdrawing, he could deprive his opponents of their moralism
WHAT? That would only embolden their bullshit one thousand fold. "He withdrew! That means he felt guilty because he did it!"

There's wrong and then there's wrong
When you gain fame by dispensing truths you're not allowed to be this wrong. It's like an underwear model sharting on the runway, there's no coming back.

Yes. We agree on all of that. Peterson is wrong on this issue, as I stated.

who the fuck cares about e celebs

peterson had his 15 minutes of fame but he's a broken record at this point

I think everybody should stop listening to peterson right now.

He's done it this time. There's no coming back. Please stop listening to jordan peterson. He's not coming back.

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>2 posts by this ID
fuck off shill

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I disagree. Such rigid absolutism is what led the left to where it is today. Fanatics out of touch with normal life.

Sometimes people are right on some issues and wrong on others. So long as they are not fanatics and are willing to discuss it then you should never write them off.

>I disagree
That's fine. But people get written off for much less, nobody is entitled to attention.
You know he could've salvaged this but he even fucked up the backpedal.

RIP.
>hey Vern

No one is entitled to anything. I'm just saying fucking up now and again probably isn't a reason to treat him as some kind of pariah. If he has good ideas in the future, I will consider them. I he doesn't, oh well.

Peterson effectively destroyed himself, yes. His 12 steps book was a close call but now, it's over.

this is the only place I ever see this guys named mentioned. only the shills seem to care about him.

>It's over
It's over

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Where is
3. Millions of bucks donated to gofundme...
oh wait, this is a jew who we are talking about

never mind

he gets 500 likes and fewer retweets.. He's a fucking nobody.

The eternal LEAF

Holy shit he reminds me of one of my best mates who is on reddit and tries to rationalize his cognitive dissonance regarding being hated by every demographic while shilling their every thought.

Well, I know exactly who Peterson is now, he's not even some deep 20th layer agent he's just a bumbling canadian fool with a PhD.

peterstein pls go

Wow. That's some pilpul there, Moishe.

The Big Brain Trust at work. LOL.

So essentially you can never be wrong about anything, ever. Okay cool glad we know where the bar is set, thanks chief.

>give up lifetime seat on the highest court just to get a temporary moral one-up on the Democrats that will last exactly one news 24 hour news cycle
fuck this dude is stupid lmao. actually wait I'm 100% sure this shill is doing it deliberately

Where have I heard that argument before?

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Exactly, there is NO coming back from this, absolutely NONE it's ABSURD to even ENTERTAIN THE NOTION that one could possibly be mistaken about a nuanced issue this is LITERAL SUICIDE PLAYING OUT IN FRONT OF US in real time there is NO NEED to listen to one single IOTA of another word this man has to say for the rest of ETERNITY

Since you're a brainlet you probably don't know this, so I'll give you a nice piece of advice:

Your brainlet extrapolations on somebody's statement don't pass their brainlet attribute onto the person who originally said the statement.
For that reason, you should avoid attributing your brainlet ideas to somebody else, and just stick to attributing their own words to them.

Peterson needs to lead by example. He has been loudly attacked and slandered by SJWs and feminasties. So he should step down from his university post to put an end to the divisiveness he has caused. Practice what you preach, Peterson!

>by withdrawing he could effectively deprive his more radical opponents of their selrighteous moralism
Yeah Peterson, just like how you should step down from universities and debates to deprive your opponents. Brilliant strategy.

Here's what actually happened; Peterson is in fact narcissistic, he realized that he was wrong, but he can't actually admit that he got his opinion from a 5 minute mainstream media broadcast so he made up an overly pretentious excuse with needless gramatical complexity.

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Just a quick observation and general question. ..
Did Peterson find out what Ja Rule thinks about this ?

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i didn't really believe in JBP shills but after this thread I do
you idiots deserve exactly zero(0) shekels

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woops, misfired sorry lad

just found this lol
youtube.com/watch?v=buD2RM0xChM

Instantly lost any and all credibility. Never want to hear from him again.

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He's wrong, neither side wants to "heal the divide". These fuckers won't stop until everything good in this world has been debased, perverted and destroyed. They will not stop until they get their new world order of globalist socialist totalitarian. There is no compromise with people such as these. they must be met with force, driven back and flung into the sea. That is the only way this is going to end.

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that's exactly what he said, he said Kavanaugh should step down so that he could "dreprive his more radical opponents of their selfrighteous moralism"

The statement on its own is a fucking joke. That he should step down to score a temporary political win that will mean nothing in 2 weeks and in the process give up a seat on the supreme fucking court that he could hold potentially for 25+ years. Its like giving up your queen for a pawn, its a fucking joke. Either Peterson is a brainlet with his brain too mushed up from the anti-depressants or he's a legit shill, either way its not looking good for Peterstein

>Here's what actually happened; Peterson is in fact narcissistic, he realized that he was wrong, but he can't actually admit that he got his opinion from a 5 minute mainstream media broadcast so he made up an overly pretentious excuse with needless gramatical complexity.
That actually makes a ton of sense
We see this phenomenon over and over again with our beloved CNN-informed foreign pals at this very board after all

There are only two explanations: He's a bumbling fool or he's a shitlib shill deliberately giving terrible advice. What's funny is that he actually thought Kavanaugh or people close to him would ever take it seriously.

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this

I still literally have no idea who this cult figure is, I just keep seeing click-b8 with the name in it.

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>that's exactly what he said
It's exactly not what he said.

>he said Kavanaugh should step down so that he could "dreprive his more radical opponents of their selfrighteous moralism"
I agree

>. That he should step down to score a temporary political win that will mean nothing in 2 weeks and in the process give up a seat on the supreme fucking court that he could hold potentially for 25+ years.
Here you get 2 things wrong. And that's why you should not attribute this to peterson. These are YOUR brainlet extrapolations.
1. It's not true that the GOP necessarily gives up a SCOTUS seat. The guy who replaces kav could be even more right wing than kavanaugh.
2. It's not true that the effects of this are only going to last 1 week. Potentially it could be a talking point in 2020 and beyond.

Lol I've defended him a lot and this was way too much for me
Seriously fuck this guy
Intellectual dark web of mainstream cunt bags
His old stuff is still good, he needs to hide in a cave for a couple of years

>Intellectual dark web of mainstream cunt bags

very creative
nicely done

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The IDW destroyed Peterson, he was just quoting Weinstein.

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lol i'm not even going to reply to you, i'm just going to point out how you replied to me three times on the same post and call you a shill, shill

LOL I love the discombulation of Jordan Perterson fans, The dude legit ninja'd into the social sphere and people love him despite how far he overreaches his intellectual ability. I dig his lectures on religion and how we can relate to those ideas today. Everything else is a legit scam. Have fun in your cult, JP fans,.

It started with YouTube videos, then he got a book deal, then he got invited on Joe Rogan's podcast a few times, then he got his pic and interviews in Time Magazine and The New York Times, then he got guest spots on Fox News. Now he's rolling in the money and he doesn't want his fame and money to ever stop. But he got cocky and fucked up. Now everyone sees him for the fraud he is.

DAMAGE CONTROL! DAMAGE CONTROL!

The fuck are you doing? I'm not even going to bother explaining to you how you fucked up here. It is better that you continue to out yourself.

>he doesn't know how to use Jow Forums
>calls me a shill
haha well, you are a brainlet and a leaf, after all.

He does have really cool lectures on the old and new testament when he was a professor. Literally the only thing worth listening too imo.

>I'm not even going to bother explaining to you
>lol i'm not even going to reply to you
>DAMAGE CONTROL! DAMAGE CONTROL!

No arguments?

Reminder that Ford and Kavanaugh are the same person

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>I still literally have no idea who this cult figure is, I just keep seeing click-b8 with the name in it.

fedora-wearing atheist faggots still need a church surrogate, and Peterson is their Jimmy Swaggart/Benny Hinn/Dhalai Lama/Billy Graham/Louis Farrakahn.

His classroom lectures on clinical psychology are good. His self-help advice is sound if unoriginal. His analysis of literature is trite. His political advice is foolish at best, disastrously subversive at worst.

>fucks up his post and reveals he's at best a total newfag
>tries to project his failure onto me
how i know you're a saulinsky democrat. dude your fuck up is right there for everyone to see you dumbass

The whole process had the right demoralized pretty badly at the time, if Kav surrendered the repercussions at midterms would have been enormous. It would have been an utter political loss with lasting effects and potentially the beginning of the end for Trump (for real though.)
As it is, REALITY vindicated Kav beyond anyone's expectations and the left got utterly BTFO. Right now JBP should be writing an essay about how hard he fucked up and what he learned about it but nah.

While I understand humans make mistakes, this is beyond stupid and hard to be seen as one and not just a simple manipulation attempt.
>give up the hard work earned position against the mainstream media, the social media, the corrupted fbi, the underground pressure...
This is blatant treason to those involved, including Trump voters.
OK, Jordan ''give up" Peterson, shut the fuck up.

He showed his end too early. Molymeme called his bluff and he doubled down.

Even the normies are figuring it out, with this one. The ones that remain after this will probably never leave. They will become the new cringy fedoras that still idolize the Dawkins of the world.

All I see is a shill who ran out of arguments

Yep, that's obvious interloper formatting.

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The guy is really interesting in his field, his diagnoses of the bible is really cool to listen to. The problem is he expanded beyond his ability and now is just a social persona to whatever new trend can gain him traction in partreon.

>It's not true that the GOP necessarily gives up a SCOTUS seat.
Do you play sports? If you do, have you ever noticed that a soul-crushing defeat in the first half/quarter/period after a hard fight rarely leads to victory in the second half/quarter/period. Taking a loss so you can get an even bigger win because now you're really motivated! is just bad strategy.
>2. It's not true that the effects of this are only going to last 1 week. Potentially it could be a talking point in 2020 and beyond.
It's going to be a talking point in 2020 and beyond anyway. Only now it's a talking point where we won the hard, brutal fight and not a talking point where we slunk away with our tail between our legs after losing the hard, brutal fight.

>fedora-wearing atheist faggots still need a church surrogate
very good perception. you're more right than wrong, in my opinion.

His lectures on clinical psychology are pretty good, too. But yeah, that's about it.

if you win, you should voluntarily lose.
t. cleanroom guy

>Do you play sports? If you do, have you ever noticed that a soul-crushing defeat in the first half/quarter/period after a hard fight rarely leads to victory in the second half/quarter/period. Taking a loss so you can get an even bigger win because now you're really motivated! is just bad strategy.
For sake of argument, I'll concede it's a bad strategy. It doesn't matter. That's not what this argument is about.

>It's going to be a talking point in 2020 and beyond anyway. Only now it's a talking point where we won the hard, brutal fight and not a talking point where we slunk away with our tail between our legs after losing the hard, brutal fight.
No the talking point will be about corruption in the GOP; that there is a partisan rapist in the SCOTUS.
Anyway, you have conceded the point that the talking point will go beyond 1 week. And that's what the argument is about.

So you agree with me on both points.