What comes after the collapes of Christian and Enlightenment values? Is Islam really the only option?
What comes after the collapes of Christian and Enlightenment values? Is Islam really the only option?
Christianity wont collapse user.
first will come the dominance of american culture (we're halfway there) then in retribution will come an era of allah without whores drfessing like whores and beggers starving for food
Expulsion of jews and the muds they let in.
>What comes after the collapes of Christian and Enlightenment values?
Everything from the 19th century on.
Christianity's non-theistic variant is doing fine (comparatively).
Eventually we'll see the rise of some new religion from Japan or Korea that will take its place. If you want to get your foot in the door, find the religion that looks down on sporta and videogames.
The Jewish conspiracy is self-fulfilling.
>Established powers experience decline in prosperity
>Jewry, as civilised and wealthy outsiders, are easily scapegoated and expelled
>Jews must adapt, pragmatic and intelligent individuals survive
>These Jews gain prosperity and status while remaining non-established
>Repeat
>religion that looks down on sports and videogames
I could see that happening. It sounds ass-backwards enough.
Why do you think an Eastern religion will break into the West? This is basically unprecedented in history and Asia has pretty much no cultured influence in Europe and America. Even relatively common Buddhist circles are basically seen as fringe and impractical.
What form will this new religion take?
All abrahamic faiths believe in a spiritually unified world. Jews believe that their work is towards bring about this world no later than 2240 (year 6000) at which time humanity will be granted a millenium of peace and all old, karmically resurrected souls will connect with the new birth of humanity, bring about the children for a new era of humanity.
Judaism holds the unity of masculine + feminine energy as its centrality. The first offshoot of belief was Christianity i.e the Son. Christian nations thus expressed an unconscious feminine side through conscious masculine action. The result is a system that acts towards fulfilment of earthly desire, I.e feminine desire.
Islam is the conscious feminine expression and unconscious masculine. We can note that the ideal sexual selection strategy of women is harems rather than more strict monogamy as in the appolonian Christianity. Hence we can assume that Islam is in fact a greater expression of religion from a feminine perspective. This is also viewable in many of the signs and symbols i.e the cube representing a closed up cross (symbol of female reproduction) and the use of the cresent moon (the reflection of the sun and the light of the night/unconscious/darkness)
Given that the unconscious expression of feminine energy via Christianity has brought about a system that whilst providing abundance, also risk destruction, then Islam can serve as a valuable tool to restrict humanities excess and bring about a more experiential spiritual existence, ushering in a new age upon which the feminine and masculine can be unified once again and fulfill the prophesy of a unified world.
>Given that the unconscious expression of feminine energy via Christianity has brought about a system that whilst providing abundance, also risk destruction
That's precisely Christianity's strength, that it is its strongest in utter defeat
You know where you are, don't you? No one here is going to buy those jewish lies. Jews are a parasitic race that destroys everything it touches.
Yep. It's also why it necessarily must become weak and suffer. Through bringing humanities suffering into consciousness, and then taking masculine action in order to repair the suffering, the Christian will ultimately be the builder of the new age and the conscious unifier.
Ie, Christ will come again in the form of broader Christ consciousness and likely the building of new structures of society that once again place God the highest at his rightful place above humanity.
Hopefully metaphysical satanism.
neo ancestor worship invoked by a potent enough prophet, you know who im talking about
How come Jews are strong enough to survive post-multiculturalism but whites aren't?
You're right.
It already collapsed.
The jew is a subversive foreign element that promotes multiculturalism because it provides the jew cover it doesn't have in a homogenous environment. The solution for whites is not to adapt to multiculturalism, it's to remove the jew and the invaders the jew let in.
Far higher in group preference, ethnocentrism, and a history of being a rootless minority that's taught them that they're actually better off in multicultural societies.
>Islam
>legitimate
>2018
lmao
The spiritual revivals as a result of the endstage of capitalist nihilism and pressure will not have any singular form. They will be as diverse and varied as the people seeking to find them. Everything from devotional Buddhism, shamanism, folk magic, mystic Christianity, Islam, heterodox Hinduism, neo-Gnosticism, neoplatonic theurgy, Catholic revivalism, pagan heathenry, New Age UFO cults, and everything in between will be present. As the excesses of materialism became too obvious to ignore and people find their souls devoid of strength, they will turn in masses to non-rationalistic explanations for theirs and societys malaise.
Expect a lot of neo-prophets, evangelical revivals, charlatans, medicine men, oracles, mystics, zealots, Islamic converts, ecuemanical religions and so on to appear in the coming decades. If you have any beef with the spirits, now is the time to make ammends.
>Expect a lot of neo-prophets, evangelical revivals, charlatans, medicine men, oracles, mystics, zealots, Islamic converts, ecuemanical religions and so on to appear in the coming decades.
So the future will be Blade Runner?
Unironically yes.
>tfw none of us will live to see this
Interestingly George Grant had predicted this back in the 60s, that Western civilisation would eventually collapse due to internal contradictions, but that afterwards Christianity civilisation would be reborn in a purer, stronger, and more sustainable state.
cringe
Obviously it didn't user. You are very misguided, you have been deceived.
I take that back. Christianity is still going strong in backwards shitholes like africa and latin america but in the west (aka the relevant parts of the world) it's pretty much dead
Look at yourself user. Your whole belief system is based on shitty Jow Forums memes. Please rethink your life.
>in the west
But this is a pretty false thing to say.
No it isn't. The western intelligentsia stopped believing in Christianity a long time ago. Even here in the states a lot of people only consider themselves Christian in a cultural sense but they certainly aren't true, fully practicing believers that live the faith.
Don't be fooled just because the GOP likes pandering to evangelical retards for votes.
GOP?
What? No, user I actually talk to people in my life out on the street and faith a Christianity is still there, thriving.
Like I said, you have no basis for these claims, you live in a secular bubble.
>you live in a secular bubble.
And it sounds like you live in an ecclesiastic bubble.
Not really, I live In Washington state, it's really liberal up here.
But I talk to literally everyone that I can, and I'm telling you Faith still grows among the people that believe, and more and more people believe everyday.
jesus christ, you know its going to be super awkward when burgers start to talk about christianity
There was nothing awkward until you said it was awkward.
I bet you're a woman.
OK
Jews can't live in your country if it bans baby torture.
you resorting to calling me woman speaks about how insecure and fragile you are in coping
Jews are actually fleeing the west following their disproportionate role as the victims of islamic attacks and mobs.
Think of Christ; willing to die on the cross so that you may be saved. The antichrist, aka. jews, are willing to die on the cross so that you may burn in hell.
>Far higher in group preference
That's factually wrong.
Jews mix with non-Jews more than others.
Jews are born out of baby torture, not human breeding.
I don't see a future for Christianity and such being a real radical force against the current powers.
We'll (continue to) be ruled by ultra-rich corporations or corporation-like institutions and they'll own everything, including the Christian churches and the populist revolts, which will get some limited free-reign.
At the end people will slowly adapt and morph into a different species, so to speak. We won't even realize we're being manipulated and/or we won't be bothered by it, because it will just be called 'life'. And outside of it only death. No redpills, no revolution.
>more and more people believe
user's clearly wrong to write off Christianity, but that claim is nuts.
I think the only way out of this is if in the next few decades we come up with a UBI type scheme and we free a critical mass of people from the shackles of 8h work days.
The problem with democratic societies right now is that most people are way too ignorant, partly (but not exclusively) because they just don't have enough time to think.
If a critical mass of people start educating themselves and manage to produce rebel movements that snowball into real political power something genuine could happen.
If it doesn't happen soon enough, power will be concentrated too much and it's game over.
>We won't even realize we're being manipulated and/or we won't be bothered by it, because it will just be called 'life'
Why the future tense? You're just describing how society always works.
>taking part in christiananity vs actual faith
You cant be serious user.
>I've got faith in Jesus Christ but I'm going to deny that faith and say 'no religion' in this here survey
Uh-huh
You agree then
Cult of reason, under anarcho-syndicalism
>If you want to get your foot in the door, find the religion that looks down on sporta and videogames.
Bahahahaha not a chance.
I agree that the religion of the future will take more from eastern cultures (will be similar to Buddhism and the like but with less autistic dogma) than monotheism, which is dead.
Depends. I'm not sure if you think that the survey under- or over-estimates the number of faithful Christians.
Islamo-Accelerationism.
this
Well I can relate to the anons discussing the fall of western civilization as it is atm and after the purge epoch returning as a stronger more refined state of conciousness.
I have long known that the world as we know it will eventually burn. I always envision it as a kind of zombie apocalypse but with niggers instead of zombies. Just look at what is happening at the southern boarders of europe. Even if the people wake up and vote against the un migration pact... Being overrun by the negros is inevitable if we don't just start killing them at somr point. And that won't happen in the gruesome size that would be needed to prevent us from being flooded by them.
I do want to try and spin this conversation around tho so bare with me. In many philosiphical/spiritual traditions there is a strong emphasis that the realm of erathly time and space is a place for us to learn and expand our wisdom so that when we return (reincarnation) we can pick up were we left of. The point I want to make is thst I don't let myself be dragged down or be ruled by the current socio-political situation. Instead I try to gain as much wisdom as possible while helping others for a living. I think we all need to start with ourselves and looking outward onto society moght infact be a good way of seeing what is generelly wrong here so we can look for these same faults within......
Is oil sentient?
Is sperm sentient?
Yes.
Dogmatic academic egalitarianism and scientism
I think you radically overestimate the power making a living has had throughout the years.
On /lit/ it's easy to make that mistake. You're seeing the world through the eyes of those who are preoccupied with spiritual hoo-hah and philosophical navel-gazing. The average guy regardless of situation just wants money, women, a nice car, and some satisfying grub. So long as people can profit off that, capitalism will reign supreme. Mass religion comes about for practical purposes, not as a result of the kind of fancy realizations and soul-searching epiphanies you imagine it would.
user, there are legions of people on this site who will gulp down Jungian nonsense and spiritual fuckery till they can't breathe. What you're saying here doesn't resonate with most of them, because it implies that leading a good life requires working for it, and being positive in the face of adversity, instead of just subscribing to a snowflake belief system as if it were a Netflix account.
Elaborate. Good books for this subject?
Sad if true. Still doubtful.
>neoplatonic theurgy
>non-rationalistic
Nigger read The Elements of the Theology and tell me this isn't rationalistic.
No idea and no.
It will be super monotheism
The future is 1984 and China is the prototype. How will spiritualism play into it? Probably as a means of escape from a world the average person can no longer influence.
The Quran.
Fanged Nouma.
An Introduction to Hindu Doctrines.
Yes and then Islam too will become pozzed
Fortunately it will all be cut short by The Singularity and our digitized freed minds will no longer require trivialities like religion
As a guy who turned to woodworking and really got into making nonsensical shamanic instruments and charms I confirm this message.
I have no idea why I do it, but I just can't stop.