>so pol imagine a country were holocaust denying is illegal (like germany)
>history class takes place in school or university
>the subject of discussion is holocaust
>but suddenly there is one bright and not very agreeable kid who asks lot of questions
>has hard time believing some aspects of it
what happens then pol?
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im curious about the denial law in germany. I assume flat out saying "it didn't happen" is illegal. But how about questioning it? Would a statement like, "maybe it was 1 million or 4 million that died," would that be illegal?
Holocaust denial is illegal not holocaust doubting.
Though all possible questions have been answered a billion times.
No.
and is a kid denies that what happens?
what about saying something like, maybe hitler was right and the jews were destroying german society?
>denial is illegal not holocaust doubting
so as long as i don't deny it, even if i say that in the holocaust only 1 jew dies, it's not illegal.
Suppose
>kid is dumb enough to browse Jow Forums
>says "teacher i heard there weren't six million jews in europe at the time"
>teacher then shows kid the wannensee protocoll
>kid now acknowledges there were enough jews in europe
>or kid wants to be an edgy turd and purposely denies evidence without counterevidence
>kid gets scolded for being an edgy turd on higher schools and ignored on lower niveau schools
There is a law against demagogy. Just saying Hitler was right about some things is no issue, saying therefore we should kill all jews would be illegall
No. I was differentiating between personal opinion and public statement. Frankly nobody cares what you say in private. If you publish a book saying only one jew died and don't retract that claim in face of evidence to the contrary you could get a lawsuit
so how is that law justified?
But it's the heap-heap paradox isn't it? you can say six million died and it's fine. what about one people, is that fine? one person died in the holocaust. what about two? what is the acceptable range of holocaust legal opinions?
ah! and what constitutes "proof" of a death? is it ink on paper or is it bones and ash?
That's really not the question here. I'm not in support of censoring any opinion regardless how stupid. Even on a practical level it only fuels disinformation.
If you ask how it gets justified by the public fairly easy because usually only people with an agenda deny it.
I don't know. I would like to think everything you can substantiate as a legitimate opinion but I'm very disillusioned about the state of german rule of law. Probably dependend on whether or not you're worth the struggle.
And Germans pretend they aren't complete trash.
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I didn't use the word "proof" and I'm not sure how it is defined in jurisprudence.
It sounds like what is "demagogy" is up for interpretation based on its definition though. "Appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument." Couldnt appealing to ordinary people be rational?
>It sounds like what is "demagogy" is up for interpretation based on its definition though.
Certainly. That's in theory what the court system is for.
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downplaying the scope or credibility of the holocaust is illegal denial
>Literally weren't 6 million jews in the area at the time
>Teacher: yes there were shut up!
>Faggot kraut: then the kid presents no evidence le edge
They were banned from most countries and Poland only admitted 2 million of them it was a law at the time I've spoken to my granny about this
i'm a jewish holocaust denier what will happen to me if i say that the holocaust didn't happen?
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soviets knew how important propaganda was, and were in charge of the camp protocols and had the original typewriters. they just added numbers to the actual numbers of dead people to make good propagandda and to be able to demand more reparations. im sure they were ruthless enough to drive a couple of hills of corpses from camp to camp to be able to make good propaganda fotos. (i was one of the idiots who said 'we have the corpses on photos, duh...')
You would probably just be sent to administrative counseling at first. Unless you aren't White in which case nothing would happen.
Based. You just won a window seat in the oven :)
can someone give me a TLDR on the wannensee protocoll?
at least what the numbers say and such, where they get them from, etc
reported
you mean crematory
Not here, faggot.