Do you want to know why the NPC meme hits them so hard?
Leftism in general relies explicitly on the notion that their ideas of "progress" and "reason" contrast with a dumb right wing populace which is told what to think. The liberal envisions the old backwards farmer in Idaho as representing right wing beliefs, and they believe they're the ones who have intelligence and agency because they believe they've educated themselves enough to not just be told what to think as ironic as that is.
This is why the liberal can't comprehend the increasing amount of young people who resist them, especially when they're educated on their bullshit and destroy their beliefs in front of them. Yes, those same beliefs they thought they were special for cultivating in contrast to their image of the old uneducated rural conservative. In function, their beliefs are just an expression of hipsterdom in the modern world that wanks over self consciousness and image. Which is why getting through to them that their beliefs and behavior are actually extremely common and enforced on them is a death nail for their insecurities. The liberal hipster values above all else their special independence, and liberalism no longer provides that and they're learning it slowly(see the lefties spiraling off into increasingly obscure movements or walking away from politics altogether).
Re-posting an interesting analysis from last thread:
Essence of the NPC (1/4) The NPC meme is so effective because it strikes at a key aspect of normal human functioning that these people apparently lack: pattern recognition. See pic related. That is the last chapter of book 2 of Aristotle's Posterior Analytics. The short and sweet version is that all knowledge must be derived from sense perception. We aren't born with knowledge and so perception and induction are how we formulate the basic principles of science/reality/ourselves. The process involves extracting the universal attribute out of a series of experiences or memories and the most universal attributes are extracted first. "Wit" describes the speed at which someone can grasp the universal. Aristotle compares the process to an army that has been routed, but one soldier turns to make a stand and then another and another until the formation has been restored. This formation is a rational, logical set of conclusions. However, this is where the problem arises.
>And this at least is an obvious characteristic of all animals, for they possess a congenital discriminative capacity which is called sense-perception. But though sense-perception is innate in all animals, in some the sense-impression comes to persist, in others it does not. So animals in which this persistence does not come to be have either no knowledge at all outside the act of perceiving, or no knowledge of objects of which no impression persists; animals in which it does come into being have perception and can continue to retain the sense-impression in the soul: and when such persistence is frequently repeated a further distinction at once arises between those which out of the persistence of such sense-impressions develop a power of systematizing them and those which do not.
Robert Adams
(2/4) Humans fall into this latter category of animals that can retain sense perception and further systematize them (i.e. learn). It is the ability to discern the abstract universal truth from a given set of experiences, to generalize, to discriminate, if you will. The starting point of knowledge is noticing patterns and differences. But the NPC has lost this capacity, either willfully or from a life of training. Seeing patterns and generalizing now has all sorts of labels ending in -phobia and -ism. Having "a discriminating mind" used to be a good thing. Being called a "discriminating shopper" was a compliment.
>but we only mean discrimination based on sex, race, national origin, skin color, gender orientation, age, job occupation, etc. The list continues to grow and the definition of many of these things is becoming obscured. The process of discrimination is so fundamental that it cannot be arbitrarily switched on and off. The only way to not be a racist, sexist, islamophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, anti-semitic shitlord is to kill the part of your brain that wants to discriminate. A full shutdown of your brain's difference engine is required to avoid "unacceptable" conclusions. To use the soldier analogy from earlier: instead of a rout, the NPC army has been ordered to retreat and any soldier that turns around to make a stand is shot on the assumption that he's a traitor.
Dylan Rivera
(3/3) It leaves the NPC incapable of learning or reaching logical conclusions. They can't grasp the basic fundamental truths of the world around them, so any reasoning done will be flawed. However, the brain doesn't like being left in this eternal state of logical limbo. It wants to order the world around itself. It wants to put things into boxes and label them, but it is being specifically trained not to do this, leading to a great deal of discomfort. It leaves the brain craving a structure to judge the world with. The solution? This structure is provided to them. They are programmed by authority figures and media with the fundamental logic they use to view the world. Their many contradictory positions are because their viewpoint is contrived, not derived. And it is also why their positions can seemingly 180 multiple times in a couple weeks.
Take for example the Pakistani rape gangs in the UK or rape statistics in the US or gun violence in the US. A rational, fully functioning mind would see the tenth report in a week about a new rape gang run by an Ahmed or a Mohammad and he'd extract that one particular type of man was committing these crimes disproportionately. But the NPC brain sees these and only extracts up to the limit it is allowed and through the filter it has been given. The NPC will see that men are raping children in the UK, ergo toxic masculinity is the problem. Only the partial universal is extracted so the conclusion is fundamentally flawed.
One of the most glaring particular instances of this happened recently with Molly Tibbets, the girl in Iowa murdered by an illegal. (You could also think of the South African couple in a similar situation.) What kind of lunacy would cause a father to go out and advocate for the very people that just murdered his daughter? The kind of person that can't learn. We identify threats by abstracting present and past injuries into the future to prevent them.
(4/4) If you can't learn from your experiences you will never accurately identify threats. You'll see the Player Character saving his game and applying all of his buffs, but until he hacks you to bits, you'll keep pathing. To paraphrase Yuri Bezmenov, their brains are so devasted and trained that they won't see the truth even if it is right in front of their eyes until they are in harm’s way.
This is why the NPC meme is so fitting. They lack a quality that lies at the foundation of the human experience. It's why they seem so devoid of a soul. It's why you feel like you have the same interactions with dozens of different people. They are all running the same program and they will continue to run this until a new program has been entered by Rachel Madow or Facebook. Nothing you say or do will change the program. Nothing they see or experience in real life (from a bomb at an Ariana Grande concert to 10 vans of peace) will change the program.
How then do we change these creatures from NPCs to people? The answer is something we've always known. It's the redpill. It's why the redpill is irreversible. Going back to the army analogy, it's convincing the army in the NPC's head to not shoot that one soldier that turns around. It only takes one. Because as soon as he's allowed to live, as soon as fundamental reality is no longer an enemy, the process has begun. By its sheer existence the single soldier will draw others, and bugs in their code will be made apparent. The brain will take over and begin to self-repair. Remember that next time you talk to an NPC. The goal isn't to have them yelling "GAS THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW!" The goal is to break the code just a little bit. The rest is inevitable.
P.S. This is also why the left can't meme. They can't imagine others being able to understand something without explicit explanation. Lefty memes have walls of text worse than Ben Garrison cartoons because they can't distill abstract concepts from things.
NPCs lack self-consciousness because they unconsciously don't want to go through the pain of becoming individuals and being ostracized for their beliefs. They're a reflection of the social environment, tools of the status quo, and their disagreements have to remain within the spectrum of acceptable opinions.
NPCs are subhumans. They have no such sophistication.
Jose Sanders
>tldr = feels before reals? ive known this about most people for a long time. what do you think about my sister and her husband being awkward with each other though? its like they have no sense of humor. my sister is FULL blown politically correct too. basically the type of person who really believes there's such thing as "wrong think" or political correctness = politeness/being a decent human being. Well a lot of things about humor i have noticed. Don´t know what your take on it is that things are often funniest when they´re true. When someone puts it exactly in such a way that it´s like. Yeah hahaha.. And you laugh. It´s funny because it´s true. Something we won´t admit for 'reasons' but deep down we know it´s true. This is why it´s funny! So, people who don´t have that much sense of humor. Well.. Hehe. And when they say the left can't meme. Because they like telling lies with their memes. I tend to think it´s because of such things. What do you think? Like it pierces the subjective layer and is an objective thing. Because i think most people love to be honest with eachother, and themselves. But are often in a position where they due to these idiotic things as we are talking about. They can´t be. So it´s like a part of comedic relief. It´s funny because it´s true. He went and said what we were thinking. And ofcourse the left goes and utilizes that with speaking untruths that deliver solely to their cognitive bias of subjective reasoning, such as john oliver, trevor noah and all that garbage. >you know how drumpf is like a orange gorilla that hates all mexicans. 'HA HA HA'. But it´s not really funny because they deep down know they are bullshitting themselves, just a subjective hatefest, contrary to actually objective factual comedy.
Cameron Cox
Sorry buddy, but it's actually a biological condition.
NPCs lack important parts of a fully functional human brain.
Zachary Sanchez
Go back to the first moment you read the inner voice stuff. That shocking moment of “aha” where you read that there are people who go through their entire days without thinking, and may not even be able to think the same way you do.
Now imagine you are a leftist reading these threads for the first time. You’re going to have the same moment of shock - only it is “holy shit, I’m the one who isn’t ever thinking!” Of course they won’t be able to articulate that without an inner voice, so it just comes out as blind rage.
Colton Rogers
>well the less intelligent people have a higher genetic fitness i guess. remember, our DNA doesn't care how objective we are or if we use scientific reasoning, the only thing that matters is the propagation of our genes. the human species will be majority made of simpletons and borderline retards. that´s the r vs k genewars. I would love for you to look into it. Molymeme did some nice videos about it. Basically K are creators, r are multipliers like rabbits and do nothing but devour what k provides. They destroy k, eventhough they desperately need k's to survive. R selected people are in nature such as animals known as hyperbreeder herd animals and generally of low intelligence and competence, and mass breed hoping a few of them survive and little parenting, just. you are born, hope you don´t die like most of them. K's have long incubation periods, with high level of parenting and nuture, and VASTLY lower in numbers but extremely intelligent and competent. And what molymeme did was map this pattern onto the human race and its ethnicities/subspecies, making it hyper controversial because it´s so fucking obvious that it´s scary! >K creates society. R's flood in overwhelm with demand. Society falls down, tries to flock to the k's nearby and rince repeat. Unless k regulates it, k continues to get everything k builds destroyed. If you also notice in the blade runner 2049 movie, the detective is called K. tl;dr r desperately needs K's to survive and to improve their 'societies', but due to r's behaviour very easily destroys k. which is disaster for both of them. What R needs is to be molded into K like behaviour to stop this cycle. Going against their nature. Indoctrinated into being semi k's. To break this vicious cycle. youtube.com/watch?v=V06JBpW6O7I
Jaxon Nelson
Kek. They can't even articulate their frustration. That's what I imagine hell to be like.
Brody Edwards
I can't imagine how these people get through the day. Like, I see how dogs survive because it's all instinct, but NPCs drive cars and such
Robert Allen
They are like dogs desperately making barking noises hoping whatever is scaring them will go away.
Nicholas Peterson
They are not interested in the truth because it´s always subjective. Objectivism is the only way you can find the truth. Because it´s not always what you want it to be. People who are subjective also take things as a personal attack. It feels like you are cutting their head off. They don´t know what to believe in anymore. Because they were conveniently living their life deciding that things are whatever they would like them to be. Which is why they are so much in the ego aswell. It´s about them and what they BELIEVE IN. Rather than what things actually are. Their conclusions are basically almost solely cognitive bias. What they want things to be. And they get upset when someone points out the logical error in it. That it doesn´t match with what the actual reality is. >you pretty much just described most humans. not all obviously, ive met a few people that can be objective and remove themselves/emotions from something and just see things for how they really are but the majority of people are basically exactly like what you just described. They want to be right for the sake of being right. Where an objective person wants to know the facts, and love to be proven wrong if he or she is wrong. Because that´s a learning experience. These people don´t want to learn. So it´s an 'eternal' parade of getting 'offended' by you proving them wrong. youtube.com/watch?v=i5zhExXiL8A >triumph of intellect and romance over brute force and cynicism.
i dont know, i thought about it today while i took my dog for a walk and i still cant believe there are a lot of people out there with no inner voice. sub saharan africans? maybe, they dont recognize themselves in a mirror til around age 5 or 6 but for everyone else? im still not convinced. perhaps some autistic people are like this as i know a few autist who soley think in images and have literal photographic memories but your average person is nothing like that though. autist with this visual thinking style border on savant syndrome.
Levi Morris
This is great! Time to use one of their own weapons against them: The Kafkatrap. Combine this with kafka trapping and you get a recipe for major ass mad.
KafkaTrap example: You: "You're and NPC" NPC: (NPC's denial of being an NPC) You: "That's just what an NPC would say"
Basically a KafkaTrap is any defense or refutation of what you're accusing someone of is to be taken as more evidence of what you're accusing them of. It can be vicious!
Look up Eric Raymond and Kafkatrapping for more info.
this is pure >question all authority bullshit. so called "ethical" people are often the most moralistic ones
Andrew Garcia
its catching on pretty quickly though but we should take advantage of the momentum we've already got going,
>meme it
i posted this pic on r9k (full of NPCs now sadly) and i immediately got insulted and accused of being a basement dweller who lives with their parents. virgin, miserable etc. even if i refuted everything they said they still insisted iam a miserable loner when its really not true at all. im getting married next year, iam in very good physical shape, i take care of my mind and body, i have goals and ive reached a lot of them in the past year so i believe ive been successful but they suggested to me that the people in pic related were "successful" and implied im not and then they use the sour grapes analogy which is just nonsense. if you suggest the grapes truly are sour they just repeat the accusations. reminds me a lot of this
It's difficult because it presupposes a willingness to make personal sacrifices for truth. To socialize properly without reflecting the status quo is an ordeal most people don't want to go through.
James Gutierrez
You can't "break their programming" any more than you can teach a penguin to fly.
Learn to identify NPCs and learn to not waste your time with them.
Hunter Thomas
I think they just use their inner voice so little it functionally atrophies into nothing. It’s like they’re illiterate but for thinking. It’s shocking to think of someone being unable to read these days but if you never did it as a kid you’d never learn. People can only read because they’re taught to. I’m not surprised that some portion of the population is “thinking illiterate” when it’s possible to fill every waking second up with something. Before phones, TV, radio, cars, etc. it would be impossible to do that.
Evan Jenkins
you are fucking retarded if you believe that this is an actual argument
Ian Brooks
NPCs can have their own children murdered by Blacks without it changing their beliefs.
They are empty shells than can only be filled with the dominant ideology of their region.
Jacob Hughes
So NPC is just the new Normie, isn't it?
Nathaniel Long
Yup. But now people are making the effort to understand them.
Blake Russell
Of course it's not an argument. It's a tactic. Hopefully the NPC you use it on takes it as an argument and you get try to get a buffer overflow on them and try to insert your own code.
I don't know if there is an exact one-to-one correspondence, but I'm sure there is quite a bit of overlap.
Dominic Jackson
>are all normies NPCs but not all NPCs are normies?
>are all NPCs normies but not all normies are NPCs?
big think
that makes sense. now im wondering how we can more easily identify these people.
Jeremiah Long
It's impossible because it presupposes they are capable of rational thought.
Ask yourself: can you redpill a giraffe? Why not?
NPCs are impervious to facts for the same reason you can't "educate" animals, only train them.
It's amazing on Jow Forums of all places so many people fall into this mental trap where you assume all humans are equal and given the right environment can become intelligent and educated.
>are all normies NPCs but not all NPCs are normies? This, I guess. There are emotionally damaged NPCs who don't fit in but still spout bullshit.
Josiah Ward
Basically. Anyone who isn't a basement dwelling incel brainwashed by neo-nazi propaganda is labelled an "NPC". Which is ironic given that these people are literally taught how to behave by their cult leaders Richard Spencer, Paul Joseph Watson et al and respond on cue EVERY TIME with the same worn out conspiracy theories and buzzwords.
Lucas Phillips
>you are x >no i am not >but you are x how is that a tactic? who falls for this shit? thats language a 4 year old would use
Look at the case of the Something Awful forums, which was the primordial soup of bluetick hipsters that make ironic tweets in all lowercase and weird twitter. They basically spread a wave of hipster insecurity across the internet - it used to have NeoGaf style struggle session culture where people would be banned for the slightest hint of holding the wrong opinion. You could look at the reason a user was banned and it would say something like "Biotruths" meaning implying anything is determined by genetics or biology ever.
A bunch of mods got doxxed as pederasts and this whole struggie shit disappeared overnight. They were literally banning wrongthink, shaming people and using the threat of bans to mold people's political opinions and it turned out it was to further the goal of legalizing or at least legitimizating pedophilia by promoting insane ideologies that would open the gates for it. One of those mods was killed in Benghazi and partook in this struggle session ban bullshit and he admitted in a post that the mods and their mates were hiring people into state department.
The nonce holocaust on SA meant that the demented hipsters migrated to twitter in the form of Weird Twitter. Their tweets all revolve around peacocking their cultural reference arsenal and how high up in the social ladder hidden behind this snarky, all lower case letters to show how blase I am style. Basically everything they say boils down to "I am elite and have the correct opinions, I am above everyone and you are poor and dogshit stupid unless you are part of our club" but it was hidden in this high-effort ironic style which was just radiating insecurity, fear of being made fun of, everything had to be said behind a shield of irony and nothing could be said in earnest. Like quoting people with no comment to imply this person is stupid. Making a hark at thee reference using words from the olden days not knowing that was how people spoke then it doesn't make you sound smart.
Jackson Sanders
It's neither a matter of intelligence or education, but depth of self-awareness. People who are rewarded early on by society for their accomplishments may never break the programming because their life is comfortable. Trauma probably has a role to play in making people more self-aware (to reduce rejection) and critical of society, to the extent that it isn't fair in its criteria for inclusion and exclusion.
Brody Watson
The NPC meme really makes sense here in germany. The holocaust guilt being hammered into people's brains turned them into full blown NPC. Unironically the country with the highest density of robotic NPC groupthink.
Adrian Cook
>you think people are NPCs for unquestioningly accepting mainstream dogma? >well you're ACTUALLY an NPC for reading various arguments and siding with the unpopular and ostracized fringe minority because you found their evidence convincing >haha, checkmate t. NPC
Josiah Butler
It was a very simple example and it looks like not the best one. Maybe a better one would be the accusation of "male fragility" and how when people try to refute it, they are accused of being fragile.
If anything it's something to be aware of. If you catch someone using it, you can call them out on their bullshit.
Just offering suggestions and ideas, man. Chill.
Jayden Watson
There was this James Allsup video on Kavanagh protests where he goes nuclear on that reported. I think it was really effective, cause he uses their own tactics against them: namely shaming and controling the language
Grayson Fisher
NPC basically means group think. So why are user's suddenly interested in a basic phenomenon?
Benjamin Bell
>The holocaust guilt being hammered into people's brains turned them into full blown NPC. Going against the herd in this case is unacceptable, which turns people into NPCs. See and >Unironically the country with the highest density of robotic NPC groupthink. And yet you're hardly stupid. Goes to show it has nothing to do with intelligence.
Jackson Thompson
1. NPCs lack an inner voice 2. NPCs are not aware they are NPCs 3. 4. 5. can we boil it down to like 10 traits?
That you question authority doesn't mean you wouldn't reach the conclusion to abide to authority. One doesn't exclude the other. The thing is, don't accept any authority blindly.
I can't see how an ethical person can be truly moralistic, they could abide to a moral code but a moralistic person usually focuses on controlling to the point of nonsense and if you're truly ethically honest you are past nonsense.
David Thompson
this is the first good post I've seen here in weeks
Angel Williams
It's possible to break NPC's it just takes a long time and a lot of effort.
This could work but it's not really a feasible strategy, making the niggers come here is bound to have negative consequences in the long term as well.
Samuel Lee
Good morning Rabbi Schlomo
Henry Robinson
You're alright, Moshe.
Xavier Ramirez
dogs are not human though, while NPCs are.
Asher Martin
>P-prof Putman didn’t sit on his findings for years! >N-neo Nazi’s, there’s nothing wrong with diversity the TV and MSM papers say so!
Because calling them NPCs got a response from them. It's like "fuzzing" data into a program to see what responses you'll get and try to catch errors. Looks like this is something that got under their skin for some reason. This may be a way to reprogram the useful idiots to either stop being useful idiots or make them useful to other causes.
Caleb Flores
are NPCs born or made?
Chase Kelly
>Posterior Analytics tihihihi
Levi Walker
This spread out from SA, to weird twitter, to smug minor celebs then to tumblr. Their favourite snark word is lower case "lmao".
It's a really poisonous contradictory mindset where they obsess over showing that they don't care and everything has to be communicated through ironic mockery. Because it all boils down to fear of mockery, putting their head up above the irony parapet to snipe and ducking down. Like a never ending high school that becomes more and more pretentious and faggy. It is entirely down to estrogen and fashion fears. If they had conviction they would state their case earnestly and sincerely but they're a bunch of sex weirdos who just want to climb the social ladder and are unapologetic actors and frauds.
The average leftist isn't like this, it's just someone who saw saving private ryan, went through high school brainwashing and watched TV and genuinely believe they're fighting the good fight. They mean well so they aren't bad people.
The real dangerous people are the nihilistic hipsters who use leftism as social ladder climbing and the SA/Weird Twitter poison spread into the democrat party in a diluted fashion but it's still dangerous. That mindset running the show is worse than any jew world domination scheme because it's just a total black hole of cowardly narcissism.
Grayson Cook
can be both
Austin Rivera
No, buddy. If they can be redpilled they aren't an NPC.
An NPC doesn't have the ability to magically become a player character. Are you retarded? Think about how dumb what you are saying is.
Are you trying to make the concept of an NPC meaningless? Words have meaning. Learn what those meanings are before continuing discussion.
Dominic Powell
Struck. A. Nerve.
Charles Diaz
Okay faggots, answer me this:
Isn't everyone here an NPC because they're just trying to fit in? Isn't the only reason you all have right-wing views is because you want to rebel and be contrarian and show how "cool" and "detached" you are from political discourse and that everyone else is just an easily offended normie?
You're all NPCs who virtue signal to people like Ben Shapiro and Richard Spencer constantly. It's just true.
Tyler Johnson
I think it's a combination and just that some people are probably more susceptible to it than others.
Angel Thompson
Didn't pink floyd try this strategy once? ... WTF Are we hippies now?
pink floyd is based af m8. nothing hippy about listening to some floyd and pondering lifes mysteries or just letting your mind dissolve on a high dose of magic mushrooms.
Beware the beast NPC, for he is the Jew's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death.
Hudson White
No im saying you made up a strawman and dicided to attack it. Rather then engaged with anybody in the thread.
Brody Hernandez
The worst part about this fucking meme is that now I can't tell if these are NPCs or just elaborate baiting/trolling, and then it's even possible for it to be both.
Notice how ALL THE CREATIVE PEOPLE IN THE UNIVERSE - the people who make good movies, write good books, make good comics and anime and manga, or even the people who make the porn that you losers all have to fap to because there are no women on your side.
YOU ARE THE REAL NPCS
Julian Parker
An NPC can't choose its programming.
It's impossible for someone holding non-mainstream views to be an NPC. Being racist immediately disqualifies you from potential NPC status.
But I did. The arguments that people are NPCs are that people just want to do whatever the liberal elite thinks; which can be extended to just following dogma in general.
You're all following dogma. You're all NPCs.
Dylan Cook
>trying to fit in an anonymous anime posting website
Alexander Stewart
>It's impossible for someone holding non-mainstream views to be an NPC. Being racist immediately disqualifies you from potential NPC status.
Having right wings views is literally mainstream. You're all NPCs.
Ian Gray
Yeah, he did something diplomacy-related. He was also a high-ranking member of Goonswarm, which is SA's group in Eve Online. He was in contact with them during the attack.
