Elon Musk is the only player, all others are NPCs

>Again, no economic reason to land stage 1 of a rocket, it's been considered and there was no reason to do it.

The largest stage isn't worth money, just let it crash into the ocean. Makes sense to me.

He runs the same fraud as Elizabeth Holmes. She thought she would eventually make such a blood tester (why did she think so?). He thinks he will eventually make money off ideas that were rejected because they are unprofitable. Both hoped for magic outcome and resorted to con. Both got very visible to push the con. The visibility leads to almost certain scrutiny of the con and public humiliation and punishment. Kinda stupid if you ask me.

>unprofitable
This means fraud in the US.

Imp pretty sure he just scams people near the auction house.

So, then Space X should have lower cost of a rocket. They don't. He does charge less for launches, but he doesn't disclose costs lol. He is a publicity hound. What does it tell you about the costs?

he's a sith build rofl

No, his projections imply profitability = fraud if you mislead about shit like that. Non viable idea is not profitable at pretty much any scale. Which is what is happening to his M3.

Space-X Lands a rocket booster = the rocket costs less?

LANDING SOMETHING DOESNT MAKE IT CHEAPER TO MAKE. How small does your brain have to be?

The launches ARE cheaper. The rockets AREN'T. They cost MORE because of the fact that they are MORE ADVANCED. The launches are CHEAPER BECAUSE THEY CAN LAND THE BOOSTER.

>Again, no economic reason to land stage 1 of a rocket, it's been considered and there was no reason to do it.
>He does charge less for launches
Fuck off NPC.

baba booey

> He does charge less for launches, but he doesn't disclose costs lol. He is a publicity hound. What does it tell you about the costs?

This is also objectively wrong.

spacex.com/about/capabilities

Plus, you can read the actual users guide to find out even more about the rockets. spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/falcon_9_users_guide_rev_2.0.pdf

So if the costs are higher to launch satellites with landing stage 1 why is Space X viable? I get that he charges less, but shit costs more. That I get. This is called economically non viable business. And it's not Musk either, there was a movie tix company selling tickets before the cost that suckered in millenial "investors" before. So there is some pattern here. But it's me who is npc lol.

Commercial rocket companies make money. Except for Space X. Yes, his costs are not disclosed, and they raise money every year, sounds familiar>

>these brigdes cost too much
>YEAH they might stay up after we go over them once but I dont like that they cost more to build than the old bridges.

SpaceX's business model is based around the same business model as most airlines. You buy an airplane and you don't instantly make money off of it. You don't get the 200 million dollars back from the first 3 flights. The Block 5 of Falcon 9 is meant to be reflown at least 8 times before needing servicing. They have already reflown two B5 Boosters. The business model isn't non viable.

Elon makes people angry; I like him for that and no other reason.

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People act like he's Tony Stark when he's really Ken Lay.

I don't know who Ken Lay is but if it translates to Tony Stark minus charisma I agree 100%

He'll ignore this one

>Elon Musk is the only player, all others are NPCs.

Compared to him, maybe. But I can at least LARP as a player character when I help him him go go gadget 3rd Industrial Revolution

kek

double kek

May 8th - Elon Musk and Grimes make their relationship public.

August 2nd - The last day that Canadian musician Claire Bouchard, also known as Grimes, posted anything on social media.

It's been 40 days since.

Here's a graph of gaps between her social media activity.

And consider how odd this is. Grimes isn't a huge star. She is under 1 million followers on all of her accounts. Her success and growth depends on engaging her community and growing her fan base.

She's hasn't gone this long without posting.

And it hurts her career. Every day, she loses out on engaging fans.

August 7th - Elon Musk tweets about "Tesla going private at $420 per share." This never happens, and there's a lot of evidence that it was never even close.

Obviously, it's a stressful week for Elon Musk. The SEC starts investigating almost immediately, and sends subpoenas to Elon Musk, Tesla, and the Tesla Board.

August 10th - 11th - Musician Azealia Banks posts a series of alarming Instagram stories.

She claims that she was at Elon Musk's house, and was trapped their like the move "Get Out."

She claims that Grimes invited her over to do a collaboration, but spent all her time consoling Musk over the fact that he tweeted while on drugs and was now in trouble. She suspected that Grimes just wanted a threesome with Elon or something.

As far as I can see, Azealia Banks is the last person to have publicly said she saw Grimes alive

August 16th - Elon Musk gives an emotional interview to the New York Times.

In it, he says this:

The worst is over from a Tesla operational standpoint. But from a personal pain standpoint, the worst is yet to come

August 18th - After denying seeing Azealia Banks on his property, Musk flip-flops and confirms that he saw her.

August 18th, Part 2 - Azealia Banks accuses Musk of stealing Grimes' phone and faking a conversation with her.

The conversation makes claims that:

Elon has a fake accent

Elon has a big dick

Elon is very "open minded" and does drugs. Lots

>The launches ARE cheaper. The rockets AREN'T. They cost MORE because of the fact that they are MORE ADVANCED.
No, SpaceX's rockets are cheap to construct as well. Even launching as expendables, they're much cheaper than other rockets of comparable performance and reliability.

SpaceX is sincerely dedicated to keeping costs down and uses modern technology to the fullest. As a relatively recent startup, they were able to hire only the people they need, and not be weighed down with legacy hires who can't easily be fired for reasons of law, influence, politics, or morale. As a private business with limited political pull, they've had no perverse incentive to pad their expenses.

Basically, it's the first true private rocket company. They have many, many advantages over the government agencies and military contractors they're competing against.

This is huge
Scenario A) She's right, and Elon Musk has taken Grimes' phone. Why would he do that?

Scenario B) She's wrong, and she's talking with Grimes, in which case Azealia Banks just posted a very private conversation. I'd be pissed if those details about my private life leaked.

August 19th - The media discovers that Grimes and Elon have both unfollowed each other on social media.

It's assumed they've broken up.

August 21st - Elon Musk deletes his Instagram account.

August 21st, Part 2 - A prominent Hollywood gossip blogger posts this "Blind Item": crazydaysandnights.net/2018/08/blind-item-2_21.html

Those two blonde hookers and the coke orgy was just too much for this one named foreign born singer. She got into a knock down drag out fight with her A list celebrity boyfriend and then left him.

Was this about Elon and Grimes?

September 2nd - It's now been 30 days since Grimes' last post on social media

September 7th - The prominent Hollywood gossip blogger posts this blind item.

Was this about Elon, his first or second wife, and Grimes?

If you ask this foreign born B+ list mostly television actress who is on hit show, she will say the details are fuzzy. She remembers coming home from a set where she was filming a movie which was a small budget film. The hours were long, and the pay not so great. The movie did really well compared to its budget. Anyway, she got home late and when she walked in the door, he slammed her into a wall by the door. There was a painting on the wall and it dropped on her head and his because of how violently he slammed her body into the wall.

And this is why we all use cheap ships. As soon as the cargo is off in the port let it sink. It is too expensive to build them for multiple uses...

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>everything about these posts

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Aww, are you afraid your electric car golden boy might have killed his girlfriend?

Maybe Rocket Man needs to be taken down a notch.

>No, SpaceX's rockets are cheap to construct as well. Even launching as expendables, they're much cheaper than other rockets of comparable performance and reliability.

They have higher relative costs to what they would have if it was old tech. Since they use the same 10 engines for every launch it makes production way cheaper. When I said "cost MORE' I really meant "research COSTS MORE". Because while the rockets themselves are cheap, the science behind them isn't.

Of course R&D costs more.

Yeah, that's the thing. Others do. They charge for costs + profit. Space X projects that eventually they can refly something 8 times but charge below cost now. So the question is has it ever been reflown 8 times without servicing? I'm pretty sure they rebuild every flight, but they don't disclose, so if you know Musk methods, yes, they fully rebuild after each flight, and they also self insure. It's laughable, you have to cover your costs in business. If you send a rocket, the client pays for it, not in the future when it will fly 8 times. But who the fuck needs the boring business when US government comps this fraudster boy.

No, I'm afraid that I might kill some user because of your faggot gossip and faggot spacing. I'll even explain why I hate your spacing. It's because you're a newfag attentionwhore that can't even into greentext and wants to stand out with the massive area on the board taken by your shitposts. Get the fuck off our board.

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>our board

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I'm a player ask me anything

>Schemer
>invented reusable self landing rockets in 10 years
>plans a 3d underground tunnel system to beat traffic congestion and to make high speed interstate travel a reality
>plans to colonize Mars
>plans to link human minds with AI

you are so right he's just a schemer. kek

Not trying to argue with you, I like you.

Trying to argue with this retard.

>yes, they fully rebuild after each flight

making things up without evidence hahaHa. I go on the internet and say things without proof while saying "if you know musk methods" haha

Yeah, and John McAfee is such a genius, right?

Yeah, it's [our] board. Not yours. Until you prove that you are one of us, you're just an insignificant cancerous newfaggot. Go away.

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>being this deluded
Okay then, slick. Where is Grimes?

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Because the payload in a rocket is factors more expensive than a rocket, and the risk to launching something that jeopardizes the cargo is not worth it. I'm pretty sure NASA's POW Germans and the Soviets could do cost/benefit analysis better than Elon and the crew (Elon is not good with basic economics unless its Ponzi financing), so the did their estimations and concluded it wasn't worth it. Because of something called risk. Which Elon doesn't understand. So Elon said to NASA, he can do it, and since then no information is available of how it works out. Because US government comps him anyway. So a rocket is not a ship, and landing something that is dangerous to use without rework has been deemed not cost beneficial.In fact, name one profitable enterprise Elon wasn't fired from.

how is that even a legitimate thoughtful comparison? lol wow

>The guy that works 65 hours a week working in the design and manufacturing teams of 4 different companies is just a schemer that wants your money
Nigga he literally sleeps on a $20 couch in the meeting room in the Tesla factory.

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Evidence is not available from Musk. But you can watch a cool video of a launch. Financials are also closely guarded.

McAfee has had many ridiculous and outlandish plans as well. Most rich drug addicted tech guys do.

>Nigga he literally sleeps on a $20 couch in the meeting room in the Tesla factory.
And you believe that to be true? MKULTRA 2.0 in this bitch.

Test

File a FOIA on SpaceX then for the financials.

Musk is an innovator. Maybe you real men of Jow Forums hate electric cars. I get that. they are right now a gimmick but it has to start somewhere. Musk is more than Tesla.

Here's his idea for 3d underground travel. Why has no one thought of this before?

youtube.com/watch?v=u5V_VzRrSBI

This is SpaceX putting a sat in orbit and having the rocket land itself. It's just genius and I don't know how anyone can dismiss this. They did this in 10 years. 10 freaking years is all it took. NASA had all the govt's money back in the '60s and '70s. Musk created his own company and did this in 10 years. Come on it's amazing.

youtube.com/watch?v=vr_C6LQ7mHc

OK. Maybe those ridiculous or outlandish ideas are what have made them successful. some work, most don't but at least they tried.

This country was built on people with outlandish ideas floating around in their heads.

Whatever, if you don't like Musk so be it. Not going to get in some nasty pointless argument about it.

>invented reusable self landing rockets in 10 years

You can't invent something that was rejected before. That's not called inventing. That's called making a second go at it.

>>plans a 3d underground tunnel system to beat traffic congestion and to make high speed interstate travel a reality

> what is subway?
Because 2D tunnels suck, cars come out flat.

>>plans to colonize Mars
Self explanatory if you are not educated in niggerized public school. Plan vs Act. Look it up.But I'll bite, how does one plan to live on a planet with no magnetic field? And why? Why is important, because it needs to justify cash burn.

>>plans to link human minds with AI
High on drugs, has no AI, plans to link two things he doesn't have.

>MKULTRA 2.0 in this bitch.

JIDF pls go

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Elon Musk is a con artist.

>muh Tesla
Ever heard of a Toyota Prius? Electric cars aren't even remotely new, they've been around for over a hundred years. The build quality on Teslas is also very dubious.

>muh SpaceX
Space travel is literally a meme, humans will never live outside of Earth because it's impossible. Almost all research can be done remotely via satellites and rovers, the ISS is about the extent of human life in space that can exist.

>muh hyperloop
Massive fucking scam. The physics behind it doesn't check out. Thunderf00t demolishes it

And there's also the fact that he doesn't let his workers unionise. Fuck him

> The publicity hound doesn't release something.
> I have to see why

Come on. It's obvious why they are not released. If they are anything like Tesla's and they are this is a waste of time trying to figure out why taxpayer pays for this shit. Nobody gives a shit. But you can't take his statement at face value without him releasing financials.

I don't hate them, I just don't think that his are of some superior quality to garner the prices that they do.

>This is SpaceX putting a sat in orbit and having the rocket land itself. It's just genius and I don't know how anyone can dismiss this. They did this in 10 years. 10 freaking years is all it took. NASA had all the govt's money back in the '60s and '70s. Musk created his own company and did this in 10 years. Come on it's amazing.
You don't think that the government has been giving Musk contracts? They have a love-hate relationship with the guy. On one hand, they probably can't fucking stand him for wanting to make electric vehicles, reduce our reliance on Big Oil, and trying to take on larger car companies. On the other, they use SpaceX as the modern day NASA.

He's a threat to many different industries and I'm surprised he hasn't Ann Hiro'd yet by shooting himself with a musket in the back of the head twice underwater.

>Whatever, if you don't like Musk so be it. Not going to get in some nasty pointless argument about it.
Now you're making an implication that I don't like the guy. Never said that, I just don't trust him as far as I could throw a Jow Forums server.

Holy fuck JIDF is out in force ITT. Or should we call you the ultra rich giga kike defense force? A little worried about the 3rd Industrial Revolution, are you? You should be. Because after we manifest it your ultra rich 1% overlords will be reduced to the level of a pleb. A dead pleb.

There was no (perceived) economic reason to create the internet, which is why it was funded with government grants from DARPA. Shortsighted investors aren't the measure of what is ultimately economically viable.

white ethnostate on mars when?

>So a rocket is not a ship, and landing something that is dangerous to use without rework has been deemed not cost beneficial.
If only there was a way to take apart a complex machine and see first hand how it is after the first use. Maybe one day we can have machines with infinitely more expensive cargo than the transport vehicle. God damn airplanes and the need to build a new one every time it lands...

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>Ever heard of a Toyota Prius? Electric cars aren't even remotely new, they've been around for over a hundred years. The build quality on Teslas is also very dubious.
Lexus has led the fucking pack in terms of quality of hybrids. If I had to choose between a Model S that's like $75k and an LS hybrid, I'd buy the LS.

>ID: COG
Aww, you're the little cog in the machine that is society. Shame that you don't matter that much at all.

It doesn't matter that I don't matter. The only thing that matters is my plan.

What plan?

>the payload in a rocket is factors more expensive than a rocket, and the risk to launching something that jeopardizes the cargo is not worth it.
That's not true in all cases. It tends to be that way because rockets are so expensive that only the highest-value payloads are launched, and payload development costs can't be kept down with in-space testing. Payload costs rise to meet high launch costs. They'll fall to take advantages of low launch costs.

>I'm pretty sure NASA's POW Germans and the Soviets could do cost/benefit analysis
Do you not remember NASA building the shuttle, a reusable rocket? Do you not remember the cost/benefit analysis being completely wrong? It failed because of politics: they were more interested in spending Apollo-scale budgets than actually lowering launch costs.

In the shuttle era, they could have started with splashdown boosters and a reusable crew capsule, and developed reusability incrementally, at reasonable cost and significant benefit, but the people in control didn't want reasonable costs. They wanted excuses to have huge budgets. So with no prior reusability experience they built the shuttle: a giant, heavy-lift reusable rocket with a space station built onto the upper stage. Of course there were many problems and it never saved any money, which was the point: big budgets forever.

>name one profitable enterprise Elon wasn't fired from.
You mean the successful companies he started, built up, and left once they were mature so he could do other things?

>And there's also the fact that he doesn't let his workers unionise. Fuck him

This isn't 1918.Unions are an outdated idea that aren't necessary any more and they have been corrupted. American unions are controlled by the democrats. They can drive up a products prices. Unions aren't merit based. I could go on. Only about 10% of jobs in the US are unionized. Stay out of our business.

The 3rd Industrial Revolution which will fuck the powers that be in the ass. This Revolution has the same aspects as the first two: Information, Energy, and Manufacturing. Elon Musk almost singlehandedly sowed the seeds to decentralize the interwebz to a certain degree with satellites, he ran a company that is innovating batteries and other energy systems that are necessary for decentralizing energy producton, and he did some work in innovating manufacturing, but we're going to decentralize that even more. Here is one of the few decent videos that [addiction] news put out:

hooktube.com/watch?v=QX3M8Ka9vUA

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I really don't like you, and I hope you die in a fire in the near future.

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one post. fuck this faggot

Internet was not a rejected non viable idea like EVs or self landing rockets. In fact internet was not implemented before Musk, while all Musk's ideas were either implemented or rejected before. Iridium failed before Musk, so Musk's Star link is already based on a non viable idea that exists now and is not viable because of the cost. Internet has minimal cost and is scalable unlike EVs or self landing rockets or Iridium v2.

Why can't he solve male pattern baldness without resorting to plugs?

That would be Paypal that he spent a few months as a CEO and got fired for wanting to replace Linux servers with Windows. None of his enterprises are even theoretically profitable. SpaceX is fully funded by the government for the economic losses, so it's viable in a sense anything government is viable until they recalibrate. It's a subsidy monster unlike anything done before.

He never built profitable companies. He sold something that became profitable once he was out. That software app, but it wasn't profitable under him either.

>while all Musk's ideas were either implemented or rejected before.

Innovation is not defined by reinventing the wheel. Innovation is figuring out how to make better wheels. And I never heard of anyone trying to make the interwebs accessible via satellite before.

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>SpaceX is fully funded by the government for the economic losses, so it's viable in a sense anything government is viable until they recalibrate. It's a subsidy monster unlike anything done before.
SpaceX receives far less government money than ULA, and does more launches. It doesn't get any government subsidies, but rather it performs services for the government at lower cost than anyone else.

SpaceX has received some development funds from the government, but that's for Dragon and Crew Dragon, which are of little interest to private customers, and thus far have only flown for the government. With BFR under development, there's less and less probability of significant private use of these small capsules.

>I never heard of anyone trying to make the interwebs accessible via satellite before.
You can get satellite internet right now if you like, and have been able to for over a decade. Starlink will only be new in the scale and efficiency.

>can get satellite internet right now if you like

Oh yeah, Hughs net. Forgot about that.

Go on, tell him what happened to Iridium.

Basically Iridium was a hottest shit ever in the 1990s. Nobody was willing to pay the associated premium. The resulting company rides the infrastructure that was financed by investors to the ground. There is no money for updates, because it's a niche market. You are affected by weather if you use that, so it's not competitive unless you are in Antarctica or on an oil platform in the middle of nowhere with no cell towers. It costs a fortune on free infrastructure too.

Musk was going to use SpaceX funds to make new iridium that's bigger. Non financial people forgot how much money was pissed away on Iridium and don't understand how it costs so much with free infrastructure. Musk will at most make government pay for it, but apparently there is not enough money to do all his sci-fi ideas at SpaceX either.

Speaking of 90s, there were many people like Musk in the market innovating like that. They used to put them in jail back then. This is what 18 years of non enforcement of white collar crime produces.

Daily Reminder that there is a 99.999% chance you're an NPC.

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>there were many people like Musk in the market innovating like that

Name them because inquiring minds want to know.

>blanket generalization
I have bad news for you OP....

>Daily Reminder that there is a 99.999% chance you're an NPC.

Oh yeah? Watch this:

>Rah Rah Fight the Powah

>mfw I'm the .001% nao

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Ken Lay (suicided in prison). Innovated at delivering energy to Cali. Remember rolling black outs? That's the guy.

Bernie Ebbers, brought discounted telecommunications to every home.

Lucent people avoided jail, but innovated by shipping empty boxes at the end of quarter. All for science of course.

Nortel. Information about innovation is scarce, because it's Canada, but they neither confirm nor deny they did anything wrong.

Thousands of nameless .com frauds. I can't remember every single innovator there, but there were many.

Recently there was a lot of innovation in Chinese reverse mergers that really remind me of Musk more than anything else. They just innovated at everything. Most of them gone AWOL in China and most of the stocks never reopened.

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>The guy that works 65 hours a week working in the design and manufacturing teams of 4 different companies is just a schemer that wants your money
>Nigga he literally sleeps on a $20 couch in the meeting room in the Tesla factory.

Who the fuck believes this shit? Why acting as a pajeet produces great science?

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Iridium of course, because Musk will reinnovate that. That sucked in a lot of people I know. I didn't lose money on this shit because I wouldn't pay for this, and I asked them are they willing to pay for it, they said no, but invested anyway. But Iridium was innovating near chapter 11 filing for a long time. It was space internet. They weren't as ridiculous as Musk, though, there was some feeling it might take off across Wall St mostly.

>Spacex completely changed the game for space launch

how?

desu most people are just attracted to the glitz and glam of tesla. the battery expires after 5 years and will cost at least $10,000 for a new battery

Tesla is like starbucks, it is trendy, thats it

Still don't understand why everyone hero-worships this guy.
Watched some clips from his appearance on Joe Rogan and he came across as thoroughly unimpressive and at times downright retarded.
Reminded me of myself when I was in middle school. Autistic try-hard.
Among the many low-lights were him pretending to smoke pot, not realizing that we can tell you didn't inhale the smoke, and struggling to say something deep and Rogan actually laughing at him.