Why is no one talking about the horrible Music Modernization Act that TRUMP just signed into law!?

The Democrats came up with bill.

It's the jews who are profiting off of this, retard

Literally don't give a shit

I’m in the music business, and I honestly haven’t even pay that close of attention. I make about $10-$15,000 a month in royalties, and if this makes me more money, great. All I know is every fucking left-wing group including BMI which I am a member is against it. Therefore it must be pretty good

So...modernizing horrible music...been going on for a while now.

You're not. You're just the one guy who used it to try and sound deep by not contributing to the conversation.

I've got two. One I modified to play 78s, complete with a knob to set the exact speed since they weren't all recorded at exactly 78RPM.

>unironically uses woke
It's 2018

You behind the scenes or someone we know? I watched Steven Tyler rail against the industry. Is that legit or bullshit?

lol BMI & ASCAP are happy about it

bmi.com/news/entry/music-modernization-act-signed-into-law

ascap.com/press/2018/10/10-09-mma-is-now-a-law

i only occasionally listen to music because it's free

Remember when America made it so Australia is not allowed to make its own television shows other than Neighbours and home and away?
Forcing us to watch nothing but American reality TV...

Yeah about fucking time you cunts were shit all over for once.

Intellectual property laws are, by and large, demonstrably harmful to the economy and culture of societies. There is a vast, scholarly literature about this. The anti-IP stance has nothing to do with tipping one's edgy fedora and everything to do with ensuring that culture may be freely distributed and consumed, blessedly free from the grip of governments and business monopolies.

Who gives a flying fuck about the trendiness of some dumbass meme word. All I'm saying is that copyrigh is teh suck, and piracy is epic.

Looks like he just made music great again

IP laws need to be fucking killed. Can't believe that they went BACKWARDS in time to make the ip laws stronger for music during that era.

vaporwave BTFO

>Talentless mumbling niggers will stop sampling some beats from actual artists
How is this bad?

All works should go into the public domain with the death of the original creator.

No. All works should go into the public domain upon release.

I've got no issue with copyright and IP existing for the original creators. Burroughs having copyright on Tarzan or John Carter? That's fine. His descendants and "estate" don't fucking deserve a perpetual copyright though; they didn't do shit.

That's equally retarded. If I create a work I should have rights to protect my ability to make money off of it without faggots coming in and producing their own versions. But when I die my kids don't deserve to continue making money off of my work. Make your own shit you parasites.

Who the fuck cares? I'm just gonna keep on pirating my music anyways and there's nothing that the kikes can do about it. No amount of DRM or DMCA requests will stop me. What are they gonna do, sue me? I'm poor as fuck. It'll cost them more to take me to court than they could ever get from me in a lifetime.

Lmao, get fucked jews.

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>can't see how the criticism of the aesthetic is a synechdoche for the criticism of the idea

Nope. You don't own shit. No one owns shit. Disney doesn't "own" Mickey; what they do have is a legal monopoly over the use of the character. So a kid writing a Mickey fanfic and selling it is a criminal, because Disney "owns" Mickey. It's ridiculous.

No one "owned" the Greek mythological characters. They were public domain. So Herod and Hesiod could write their epics without paying royalties; and later modern poets could use them in their works too. Creating characters is intrinsic to human nature, to the human imagination; and drawing from the wealth of traditional characters is just as natural.

To erect arbitrary legal walls around certain "trademarked" characters and forbid the lot of mankind from employing them in imaginative works without paying royalties - it's fucking absurd. These laws engender a draconian, creativity-stifling, monopoly-favouring legal climate.

> 10-15k royalties

bullshit. nice larp

This says it all

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And I bet it should be totally legal to copy somebody else's branding mark and brand your cattle with it so you can steal theres and claim they had stolen your branding mark and were trying to cheat you.

You did seem to aiming your criticsm squarely and solely at my use of an obsolete word, my dear diabetic burger friend, but I'll take you at your word here.

You're still wrong. The truth is that Disney, Monsanto, Microsoft and Pfizer, with their aggressive pro-IP lobbying, have made the world a worse place for everybody.

Unjust circumstances could arise in the absence of IP laws, but that is true for any kind of legal situation. But the truth is that absent IP laws one would certainly enjoy a far more benign legal and cultural climate (such as was indeed enjoyed in 19th century America). Abuses are inevitable, but they would certainly not outweigh the legal abuses currently perpetrated by monopolies such as Microsoft and Monsanto, abuses they are able to get away with thanks to the undue power they are granted by current American IP legislation.

And really, it's even worse than that. The American government threatens countries all over the world with economic sanctions unless they reform their own IP laws, so that these American monopolies may sell their products abroad without fear of competition.
Contemporary IP legislation is rotten to the core. It basically exists so that a handful of American monopolies may profit exorbitantly while the rest of humanity is enslaved to their products.

1. This isn't a trump law. It was passed unanimously in the senate
2. It greatly helps living artists and audio engineers
3. It does not create new restrictions on old music in the public domain, it merely consolidates state level regulations

The things you think monsanto did did not actually occur

Nothing wrong with this. Public domain helped preserve classical music. With today's technology, we don't have to worry so much about the degradation and scarcity of classical media.

Fun fact, a lot of modern "singers" use old classical music over their "songs" with a few notes added. Beyonce in a good example.

In fact, Obama's America Invents Act changed the patent law from first-to-invent to first-to-file so that China could establish a humongous patent troll army to take all of our IP.

But if you want to talk about music or something like that, in this day and age you don't necessarily need a record company and royalties. You can if that's how you'd rather do it, but there's nothing stopping you from releasing your music directly into the public domain and more than there's anything stopping a developer from releasing his source code directly into the public domain.

Some years ago, I heard an interview with Billy Corgan on the matter where he (imo correctly) said the IP issue with music is going to be pointless anyway because of how easy it's going to be to share music for free, and probably the profit model would go back to paying to see a band live again like it used to be, and maybe a few more bucks on the side selling a soundboard recording at the venue for people who wanted a souvenier. That sounds pretty sensible to me.

But there are circumstances where you would want to have legal recourse, and there's nothing wrong with that. That's why an American Gold Eagle minted by the US government is worth more than Zhang's American Gilded Eagle sold on eBay from a front company incorporated on Christmas Island.

Dude, prett much all the food sold by agrobusiness monopolies is toxic. If you want to enlighten yourself on the subject, read Nassim Taleb. He's a conservative thinker.

I'm not some lefty faggot. Big State sucks, Big Business sucks, and draconian intellectual property laws suck. I thought you guys liked freedom, but freedom to you seems to mean the freedom to get fat and diabetic on Monsanto™ food, anaesthetize your brain with Merck™ anti-depressants, watch movies on Netflix™ and listen to music on Spotify™.

I don't think you're lefty, I think you're a bluepilled faggot. Americans are not fat and diabetic because of glyphosate. Americans are fat and diabetic because they eat too much food and never exercise.

Nice that they can get things done!
The wall? Not so much.
Visa tracking? Not so much.
Mandatory eVerify? Not so much.
End birthright citizenship? Not so much.
End chain-migration? Not so much.
Implement a points based immigration policy? Not so much.
MAGA

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Realistically pre-existing monopolies will just use it to their benefit while small time creators sit in the dust while their works get appropriated by the mouse. The reforms people envision won't happen or lead to a flowering of creativity or see new people making livelihoods for themselves.

They are fat and diabetic because of polyunsaturated fats. Seed oils. Seed oils were originally used in paints. After a substitute was discovered, they began to be marketed as culinary oils. This was decades ago. Cancer and diabetes rates skyrocketed. You're the bluepilled faggot.

And they drive fatmobiles and live in tacky McMansions.

Why are you blaming the whitehouse for the lefty obstructionist senate refusing to pass good policy? Also why are you throwing stones from a glass house?

Unsubstantiated momscience tier garbage. What people eat too much of is calories, of every sort.

Negative nigger.

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In 19th century America there was no law demanding publishers pay British authors royalties for publishing their works. They could publish Dickens and Wilde novels freely. This led to competition among publishers, which led the prices down and the quality up. The result was that the markets were flooded with cheap, good editions of British authors. This led to a significant flowering of literary and scientific letters in America. It was the age of Whitman, Poe, Dickinson, Thoreau, to name but a few. So no, libertarian legal climates tend to foster a vigorous flowering of culture.

Although yes, that doesn't mean authors get filthy rich, if that's your definition of "sucess"; and yeah that is the American philistine's definition of success, isn't it. I mean who do you consider more succesful, Thomas Pynchon or Jay Z. You get my point.

I used to read a lot of musician interviews. Most of them are cool with piracy. They make more money from concert tickets than otherwise. Or, you know, read some hipster forum. Take a look /mu/. Most hipsters pirate. Culture thrives on piracy. It's just how things work. There's something distinctly American about this drive to "package" everything, to turn everything into a commodified good, to erect legal fences around abstract "intellectual properties" and then sell "legal copies" of them.

>Unsubstantiated momscience tier garbage.

Hahaha. You dumb fuck. I'm done with you. Go shoot your guns at the sky while shouting "I love America" in your yard.

I bought the full collection of his works in print used for 15 dollars.
there's also torrents and archival.
you are a colossal faggot.

Shakespearssl.shit sucks anyway

I just made multiple posts insulting americans for their self inflicted problems and terrible lifestyles. Just know that you're pushing the same kind of false conclusions that led to the unwarrented demonization of fats and the myth of non-celiac gluten sensitivity

Ha you know what? I looked at my emails and you’re right. I get a fuck ton of emails and there was some “call your congressman!” Shit for a while and I conflated it with this.

It's cool how swiftly my point flew over your big dumb head.

>false conclusions that led to the unwarrented demonization of fats and the myth of non-celiac gluten sensitivity

What is this, reddit? Jesus Christ, mate.

i have some vestax pdx-2000's. record players are still pretty common desu

Explain it to us like we're retarded. What's the material consequence of this? We'll have to go pay $0.01 for a yard sale CD of something we heard on the radio or a lousy shit-quality youtube upload?

Oh no.

So you've just given up on pretending you know what you're talking about?

intellectual """property""" is the most jewish thing ever

Not as Jewish as circumcision.

It passed unanimously in the house and the senate. The music industry has been wrecked in the last twenty years and I'm glad they are trying to fix it. Today at the signing thing they talked about the next step going after the big record companies. I figure that meant the jews.

Well, he can't do EVERYTHING right, but if it wasn't him passing this, it'd be someone else. Don't kid yourself, you knew this was coming eventually. The internet can't be young and unregulated forever.
fpbp
>tfw VISIT MY SOUNDCLOUD CHECK OUT MY MIXTAPE YALL
fucking this

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New music is nothing but nigger beats and liberal shit

Look up "Special 301 Report". Read the entire Wikipedia page. Then use your big brain to think out the implications of this.

The US is fashioning the whole world after its own legal draconian image. This means, effectively, rule by Big State and Big Business, worldwide.

Current generations already display unprecedented cinema ignorance because their mental horizon doesn't go beyond Netflix. What we have is all cultural distribution streamlined into a handful of huge streaming monopolies. This is bad. Doesn't it strike you as bad?

Thankfully we still have torrents and other means of piracy, so that our media consumption may meet our patrician standards. Although I have been called a sinner by a bunch of American Christians for pirating, which I find pretty annoying.

I have already told you to look up Taleb on seed oils. Must I painstakingly explain how they affect your body on the cellular level? It has something to do with mitochondrial respiration. They also affect the thyroid gland negatively. I'm not a biologist, mate. Seed oils = very bad. If you don't trust me just look it up.

Anyway sorry for being rude, I get too aggressive sometimes.

ICKY STICKY HUH
MATTRESS SHITTY HUH

If Big Government has to take Big Streamer to task over exploiting what's an increasingly public utility as a legal loophole for dumping content for free, then I guess it is what it is. AnCap isn't a viable model. I was an early beneficiary of avoiding sales tax by buying things over the internet, but I'm not a jobless poorfag anymore and if we need a sales tax at all then it's just braindead to let internet sales go tax free. That's life.

As you correctly point out, there will always be a black market of sorts for sharing music. In this day and age, anybody can have the Library of Alexandria in their pocket and make an entire copy of it for the cost of a lunch or two.

I could not just perform some of my favorite songs for you but teach you how to play them. Same way I could show you how to pour concrete or teach you how to solder or whatever else. These things are less easy to copy, especially if you want it done really well.

I ask because I am a biologist. In fact I'm working in a diabetes lab right now, though I intend to go back to a PDAC lab in december. The molecular biology you are talking about isn't real. If you want to learn, take a class, do not trust the word of random sand niggers.

>inb4 all nazi germany music is "copyrighted"

Dare i say, the end of that “””genre”””?

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>If you want to learn, take a class
That's often the opposite of the truth in STEM. STEM is all bought and paid for and very typically run by cartels of faith and feelings.
t. peer-reviewed published professional scientist

Universities exist for participation awards, nepotism, and losers who couldn't make it based on merit or without heaps of government gibs.

You're a biologist? Cool. Take a look at what this sandnigger has to say: raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsaturated-oils.shtml

Nah, it just means the vast majority of music will be ghosted and wiped from the internet because of "copyright" infringement. Kikes are simply getting rid of all the competition. Whoever owns a copyright isn't obligated to sell it

>listening to modern corporate music

No thanks. Here's a song written by the epitome of German autism for his dead first wife.

youtube.com/watch?v=5bVRTtcWmXI

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this holds back creativity, this is fucking awful for artists and if you support this you are only another example of why the right wing is losing the culture war and influence on pop culture

You're a dumbfuck boomer
The fact that's a black market means the government can essentially stomp any free-thinker who wants access to this library of Alexandria.

Aw poor little poor fag

/mu/ here, this is actually really bad for artists and just give jewish record companies (yes, the major labels are almost all owned by big wig jews or big media conglomerates) more power

Why shouldn't artists that made music before 1972 get paid for their intellectual property?

You don't get it. The true panorama is bleaker than your portrayal.

If you have patrician taste at all, you *have* to pirate. All culture is out there, for free, if you know how to get it, yes. Movies, music, games, books, you can pirate it all. And you should.

But good luck finding movies by Godard, Bergman, Rohmer on Netflix. Good luck finding legal modern ports of obscure PS1 classics on Steam. Good luck finding cheap quality editions of Cormac McCarthy novels on bookstores, if you live in Brazil, as I do, where everything is taxed to all hell and expensive as fuck.

If I lived in America I would probably pirate less than I do. But legal options are still limited even in America; they are limited because streaming services are shitty; and these services are shitty because IP laws are a byzantine, convoluted and iniquitous modern legal invention that benefits a few gigantic monopolies at the expense of mankind. Look up the "Mickey Mouse act".

Because I 100% guarantee you it's not the artist getting the money, but some kike who bought the rights for a marginal amount.

>German autism

Dat gud shyt

Have you read the article? Look at his bibliography. It's all ancient, and none of it supports his central tenants. He also doesn't mention most his references, and doesn't include citations in most of the text. This is because it's mostly made up, with a handful of real but tangental factoids thrown in to spice up the authenticity.

So the fuck what? The artist sold it or gave it away at some point.

The government can do whatever it wants. What are you talking about? If you lack as much technological innovation as you lack musical innovation then why would the world care? It's always been about building a better mouse trap.

I still have tape decks and tapes. I know how to write music down on a piece of paper, and lots of people know how to read it. What are you even on about? You're scared that you as an individual are going to piss off the government so much that they're going to send a SWAT team to your house?

Who the fuck uses netflix and steam? What is this neo-boomer bullshit?

M A G A MOTHERFUCKERS

>Left wing is communists

>right wing is corporate cucks

hitler i miss you

most musicians don't make that much money off sales, the majority of the cut goes to the label if they are signed (which they almost always are if they're big time artists) and they make money off merch, concerts, and youtube/spotify monetization (which doesn't require you to buy the music but you can just listen for free online and they make a few cents off ads, but multiplied by the view amount).

this has been the reality of the music industry for decades, the artists have unfavorable contracts with the labels in exchange for marketing and distribution, and the labels get the majority of the cut due to various "fees" and contract loopholes. the vast majority of musicians don't make their money on record sales or downloads, if they're making big money they're either some A-list artist or selling tickets, getting radio play and ads, merch not itunes downloads or CDs

Thankfully, has already addressed what you're telling me here.

Essentially, no one in their right mind should give a fuck about peer-review. And "old", particularly "a few decades old", doesn't mean bad, does it now?

In fact I tend to doubt modern studies more than old ones. Ever heard of lobbying? But really just try going a month without eating PUFAs and see how nice your skin will look and your mind will feel.

Exactly, you're a fucking cuck for rich as fuck kikes
You deserve death you worthless Boomer, you import millions of non-whites in this country and then insist on making corporations ridiculously powerful. I hope you get tortured to death by your black nurses in your inevitable nursing home.

das RITE

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Normies do. That's my point.