Reminder that evolution isn't real
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Jesus created us 2018 years ago
In 200 years they will laugh that we thought evolution was real in 2018. It will be on par with flat Earth and Earth is center of Universe.
Hovind really is awesome when it comes to understanding the christian approach. This link is a short 3 minute clip or so where he completely manages to destroy some atheist professor by mere reason and logic alone.
>This atheist totally got destroyed
Lets take a look
>The Bible solves this issue of time, space, and matter because it's had 3 things like the trinity
0/10, analogies =/= proof
>and God created all of this
How could anyone know that?
>He's above time, space, and matter. He's unaffected by it
More assertions without proof. Fun.
>"So Dan the concept of a spiritual force cannot have any effect on a material body"
oooo it looks like he's about to answer this question
>"Well then I guess you'd have to explain to me things like....."
Oh, dodging the question with an irrelevant point. Color me surprised.
>I mean if your brain is just a random collection of chemicals that formed by chance over time
He's at least got the generic points down. Good so far.
>How on earth can you trust your own reasoning process?
The same way you can, unless you want to state we live in different realities.If you followed this logic, how could you possibly trust your own and come to a conclusion about God? All of these things he's stated in regards to his stance is called an assertion. Not a single shred of evidence. He appeals to word salad preaching and emotion, nothing of substance was said here. But also that douchey colonel sanders atheist guy really needs to get laid, there is nothing worse than listening to some tubby idiot ramble.
Space time and matter HAD to come into existence all at once. Deductive reasoning therefore lets us know that the cause of it is beyond space, matter and time. It is non-local, it is immaterial and it is timeless, or eternal. Those are the exact same characteristics we could attribute to an omniponent creator.
It's just that you are trying to explain the existence of the computer from within, without considering "man", whois above and beyond the computer.
The truth is, that you are just some retarded NPC who's programming literally restricts your thinking to the realm of matter. I don't hold it against you... jesus said it himself; those who have ears but do not hear, those who have eyes but do not see. He was literally talking about you: the eternal NPC.
Thank you.
To be safe for all eternity:
A: Admit that you are a sinner, who violates the Will of God, and that you need a Saviour.
B: Believe that Jesus Christ, Son of God & Messiah, died for you sins and rose again, as prophesied and recorded in the Word of God.
C: Call on His name, ask Him to save you, and confess that He is Lord.
Some resources that may help:
TTB.org has a verse by verse Bible Study for download or daily listening.
Chuck Missler’s Learn the Bible in 24 Hours (youtu.be
Robert Breaker’s Bible Study and Topical Sermons (youtu.be
J.D. Farag’s Bible Study and Prophecy Updates ( youtu.be
Clearlywrittendotnet YouTube channel details near future events. (youtu.be
BlueLetterBible.org has a free online bible & apps with cross references.
OneForIsrael.org is a group of Israeli Jews who know Jesus is their messiah.
Unsealed.org tracks information that points to Jesus’s soon return.
Watchfortheday.org shows how many world events are prophetically and numerically linked.
The End is nigh. Tomorrow may be too late.
God will be disappointed you didn't appreciate His creation of Evolution.
good man
good seminars
worth a watch, even for the fedoras shitposting on this thread
>Space time and matter HAD to come into existence all at once
Therefore God? This is an assertion, no matter how you explain it. You've attributed things to a God without evidence.
>Those are the exact same characteristics we could attribute to an omniponent creator.
"could" is an honest word here, i'm glad you admit that. Because we could attribute it to anything else we can't verify exists.
>The truth is, that you are just some retarded NPC who's programming literally restricts your thinking to the realm of matter.
That's the truth? Oh boy, you've been sold something and will shield it at any cost, wont you?
>jesus said it himself; those who have ears but do not hear, those who have eyes but do not see
How do you know he's not talking about you? Oh, you're just going to interpret it the way you'd like? Im so surprised.
>worth a watch, even for the fedoras shitposting on this thread
How about we discuss your criticisms in regards to evolution?
Things you don't like arent always atheism, I wouldn't doubt there's people who believe in your God in this picture.
Thats cult of ishtar, not atheism.
Superior beings cannot come from inferior beings.
There, done in one sentence.
>Therefore God?
yes because your theory can't explain it
>could
because it is a religion, stop pretending evolution is not
>you've been sold something and will shield it at any cost
like you are doing NPC? you are protecting your evolution.rlgn just as hard
>jesus said it himself; those who have ears but do not hear, those who have eyes but do not see
talking about you too son, find Jesus, stop shitposting, God bless
We know that evolution is just a mind fuck. Just we don’t have an explanation to replace it.
But...the earth is the center of the universe.
Keep up.
>yes because your theory can't explain it
What theory? Because I don't have the answer, you think you get to blindly assert something you don't even know exists is the case for everything?
>because it is a religion, stop pretending evolution is not
Evolution is a fact, if you want to discuss why evolution is false i'll hear you out.
>like you are doing NPC? you are protecting your evolution.rlgn just as hard
evolution has no ties to atheism, if evolution was overturned tomorrow it wouldn't affect my position on a God. I don't blindly follow something without evidence, sorry. You attempting to blur assertions with facts is hilariously stupid.
>talking about you too son, find Jesus, stop shitposting, God bless
Having a discussion is shitposting? Snowflakes need to go back to rebbit, you're apparently very lost.
Yes, therefore God. Your very definition of "evidence" relies on the presupposition that it MUST be explainible from INSIDE the system by naturalistic means, therefore you are intentionally eliminating the thing you're discounting on an a priori basis.
I'm not joking... you are PROGRAMMED to think in materialistic terms ONLY and you are therefore UNABLE to PROCESS spiritual concepts. Your ONLY defence MECHANISM is to BREAK DOWN arguments into tiny tidbits so you can escape the inavitable conclusion.
The works of God can be seen ALL over the place. From the mathematical blueprints of the universe (single verse) to the observations of the electron to the informational grid that underlines all of existence. Systems within systems within systems, all being more then just the sum total of their parts because of their emergent properties.
Reminder that Evolution is THE AntiChrist.
>>Denies ALL that is worshipped or called God.
>>God sent them strong delusion So they should believe A LIE.
A LIE Jow Forums A LIE!! Says plain right there that the Anti-Christ is "A LIE" . What a simple way to describe Evolution, which ppl worship as their creator. Therefore it takes the place of God showing itself that it is God. But, Does it kill Christians? What is the only way to kill a Christian? Take away their faith. That it does. Bros we are living in the days of the great "Falling Away" and the man of lawlessness is being revealed. Repent and be saved.
2/2
Atheists are liberal and vote democrat.
They received not the love of the truth that they might be saved.
>>anybody still LOVE TRUTH out there? I do.
Why does he look like he has AIDS?
Not this atheist.
I side mostly with the right.
wait hold up
have we really never seen a star form?
IF EVOLUTION DOES NOT EXIST THEN RACE REALISM DOESNT EXIST STFU
Christians are fucking backwards retards, this is why the left hates you guys
We just call the "people groups". There is only the human race.
>God
>inside the system
God is everything that isn't everything. This is like day 1 metaphysics, you FNORDnigger
>Yes, therefore God
Based on what?
>Your very definition of "evidence" relies on the presupposition that it MUST be explainible from INSIDE the system by naturalistic means
No, I've never made any claim stating it has to be explainable, and i've never said God doesn't exist. You implying these things is silly as fuck.
>I'm not joking
I bet you aren't. lmfao
>you are PROGRAMMED
Prove it, please. Instead of pushing all of these blind assertions without a shred of evidence, give me something viable here. I get you're upset at the position of "i have no evidence to suggest this thing exists, because there isn't evidence for this thing existing" but until we get to that point, i'm not going to blindly assert it does. You don't believe in everything people assert is true, i'm just doing that with something you decided to have faith in.
>Your ONLY defence MECHANISM is to BREAK DOWN arguments into tiny tidbits so you can escape the inavitable conclusion.
It's called being reasonable. Feel free to change my mind about a God, i'm still waiting on a single bit of evidence or even a coherent argument.
>*I THINK* The works of God can be seen ALL over the place
FTFY
>From the mathematical blueprints of the universe to the observations of the electron to the informational grid that underlines all of existence
Why do you assume this is from a God?
All of these assertions, and no evidence to suggest your claim is correct. You keep tying these things into something you can't even verify exists. Then you're upset when you get called out on this incredibly ridiculous string of nonsense. It's utter stupidity; all you've done is state things equivalent to feelings. Nobody cares about how you feel. If you want to talk about your period cycle, go tell someone who cares.
nice troll faggot
how about instead of spending all this time and energy debating magic sky man, you actually learn science, math, and economics
maybe you could make the world a better place
>instead of trying to figure out whats outside the system, stay inside the system goy
>help us run the economy goy
Un-ironically being a right wing christian when Jesus was a Jew that taught communism principles and international brotherhood.
>instead of trying to figure out whats outside the system, stay inside the system goy
This actually poses a good point. How do you figure whats "outside the system"?
hey man all I'm saying is conservatives know the Bible like an encyclopedia, meanwhile liberals are actually out there making a difference in the world
who is there with their nose in the grindstone, learning robotics, learning mathematics, learning cell oxidation ratios. And who is spending their time studying philosophical nonsense that has no meaning or relevance to making an impact on the world
Synchronicity, nigger
Dynamic decay theory for starters. The math does not support Evolutionary timelines.
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Do you believe in math?
>Synchronicity
>the simultaneous occurrence of events that appear significantly related but have no discernible causal connection.
>"but have no discernible causal connection."
Or did you have a different definition?
Science and math support Creation not evolution.
>>The globalist Satanists bought out the scientific community first. That's how they've been able to subvert everything else.
I literally just told you that i CANT provide you your evidence because of the very nature of God and the inherent nature of what you would call "evidence". There is NO definitive naturalistic evidence because God transcends nature itself.
However, there are plenty of scientific indications (not evidence) pointing to an intelligent creator. The conclusion can ONLY be drawn with reason and by logic, for those are the only things that DO transcend matter... in the image of... etc.
It just boggles the mind how this stuff simply doesnt register with folks such as you.
If you're really interested, start with link related and go from there.
wow OP guess all the races are the same under god now i can finally open my borders
shut the fuck up faggot
czechem
you know what science and math also allow you to do?
actually make a difference in the world
while you're spending all your time ranting and raving about sky daddy, you could be learning real things instead
Palaeontologist here.
Just lurking to watch this shit show unfold.
You're script is stuck bro.
No one is saying that. America must rremain safe and strong so we can spread Christianity to the rest of the world. Peace through strength.
Every great book needs a hero and a villain. If God was real he would have slayed satan in the beginning. But to acquire followers you need to keep the story going. Which is why Satan is planned to be killed at the end of the book ( our timeline ) than the beginning.
I’m such a huge fan of Kent hovind. I don’t agree with everything he says but he really taught me a lot about logic and “forbidden” science.
If you niggers like Kent hovind be sure to check out Randall Carlson on JRE (I know)
>do you believe in math
Yes? What does that have to do with the creationist link you posted? I'm confused. Also, i'm confused why you think this would disprove evolution. I'm not sure you know what evolution is.
Earth is obviously not flat but it is the center of the universe. No evidence exists to dispute this.
>go from one thread defending Christian beliefs
>come to another to laugh at Christian beliefs
What have i become Jow Forums?
>There is NO definitive naturalistic evidence because God transcends nature itself.
How many assertions are you going to put out here without evidence? Do you know anything you're saying here, or are you just talking out of your ass? I don't care what you think, I want you to back up your assertions with something coherent.
>However, there are plenty of scientific indications (not evidence) pointing to an intelligent creator
Great, lets hear it.
>points to a youtube video
No, you're here for the discussion making assertions. You either discuss it, or go back to lurking. If I wanted to watch this youtube video again I would ignore this interaction and go watch it. You want to claim God exists? You get to provide evidence for him. Otherwise, you're just here saying nonsense.
>The conclusion can ONLY be drawn with reason and by logic
You have yet to bring any to the fucking table. Your inability to provide ANYTHING to your assertions is proof you have nothing. Lets get to the fucking conclusion here, bud. I'm not going to sit here and watch you dodge and throw assertions around until the thread dies.
>It just boggles the mind how this stuff simply doesnt register with folks such as you.
It's so beyond baffling to hear that, after everything you've said (or not said) here. You should be saying this in a mirror, I'm blown away at the utter stupidity you've shown here.
>ask how to figure out whats outside the system to come to a coherent conclusion
>states a single word
>give the definition of that word to start, then ask you to clarify
>"shut the fuck up faggot"
1. That's not really clarifying your nonsensical point, and 2. No, please make me with a good point.
Jow Forums is not a religious board. please go to here for religious discussion:
always type "sage" into the options field when replying to religion/anti-religion threads on Jow Forums so it does not bump them
Anons, clue me in; why can't evolution have been set forward by god?
What is wrong with orthogenesis, nomogenesis, emergent evolution and creative evolution?
Religion pushes a lot of agendas in politics. You live in the US, you should know this.
What kind of difference? Nuclear Fission, DNA sequences, physics, geo-engineering, hospitals and medicine?
>>The inventor of the MRI machine was a Christian.
There have been/and still are MANY Christian scientists who have contributed greatly. icr.org
I want i emphasis specifically A:
>you are a sinner, who violates the Will of God
This is what you are. You are LESS than the perfection which created imperfection. Yeah u don’t NEED a savior, unless you want to be saved.
If you want to be saved, christ is the only sufficient sacrifice, and lucky you! You can accept this sacrifice posthumously
To rewind and summarize a bit: god made dudes and dudes sucked. God realized his will would not abide dudes for eternity, but dudes happened to have spirit. So he took mercy.
Knowing his own rules were impossible for normal dudes, he imbibed himself in a dude to fulfill all the rules.
This dude got sacrificed. This was intended to pay for the shitiness of all other dudes, but his original conception of free will prevented unsaved dudes from being,well, saved.
This is why finding Christ is so important. Because of your free will you can not be saved from your sins without recognition and deferration.
Defer your sins unto Christ, and sin less to lessen his burden. That is the mission of a Christian
If you like astrophysics look at some Jason Lisle YouTube videos. Mind blowing.
This fucking meme. If evolution is false theory provide better one with actual facts and research
>Muh Bible
No, no, no!
I used to have no respect for theists until I realise that atheists are destroying the world.
>How many assertions are you going to put out here without evidence?
>You want to claim God exists? You get to provide evidence for him.
This means absolutely nothing to you, but for me stuff like this is prime evidence that Jesus spoke Truth, capital T. Fools professing themselves to be wise... with ears that do not hear and eyes that do not see. You'll find an excuse to dismiss everything, just like you did with that referral.
It's all so tiresome.
Maybe read it then. If it's too hard to understand that's ok. Your confusion can disprove the ridiculous assertion that atheists have the whole picture figured out.
>god made dudes and dudes sucked
God couldn't make his creation not suck? Weird.
>God realized his will would not abide dudes for eternity, but dudes happened to have spirit. So he took mercy.
How forgiving. His creation failed him, and now he's going to torch the people who don't follow him because he didn't make them that way, and knows exactly what they're going to do regardless, so this doesn't matter.
>Knowing his own rules were impossible for normal dudes
Which he should have known earlier when making his creation, considering his alleged all knowing and power.
>he imbibed himself in a dude to fulfill all the rules.
He had to do this silly comedy bit to fix his own mistake?
>This was intended to pay for the shitiness of all other dudes
Because of God, someone had to be sacrificed? Sounds like some satanic nonsense to me.
>but his original conception of free will prevented unsaved dudes from being,well, saved
We could have free will with the knowledge of a God. It would affect nothing. I wonder why he's hiding?
>This is why finding Christ is so important
Oh boy, do I agree.
>Defer your sins unto Christ
The thing he created directly? What a series of failures, Yet you still come to this conclusion that he loves you and you should worship him even though you have no evidence to suggest he is real.
yup. technically if you want to get really fucky, every point in the universe is the center of the universe as long as you're at that point to observe it.
Because God is a God of order. Look at the variety and design in nature. Look at how things work together for the earth and mankind's benefit. Those systems didn't begin by millions of years of death and mutations. (((They))) push Evolution so much.....why do you think that is? It fits in perfectly with the rest of Satan's agenda which (((they))) also push. There is a reason Jesus called them out as children of Satan.
>This means absolutely nothing to you
It means more to me than you, because i'm not going to pretend things exist without some sort of evidence. Do you notice how you keep dodging the question? We get it, you can't just be honest and admit you have nothing but faith. Your assertions have nothing to back them up, you've been duped to believe in a thing you have no reason to believe in it, and you're here trying to explain to people they should be like you. Google cognitive dissonance, you're a textbook example of it.
>You'll find an excuse to dismiss everything, just like you did with that referral.
I've already watched it, apparently a lot of Jow Forums watches the same yotube videos. Did you want to discuss something in the video? Or was that your argument that you couldn't argue, and instead tried to push that burden of proof on a youtube video? Must be so tiresome for you to post a youtube video and make wild assertions. Fuck, it sounds so tough to just make word salad and pretend you're right. I'm just too busy trying to be honest and figure out what's actually occurring in reality, maybe i'll take a page out of your book and just pretend things are true.
The "actual facts" that support muh Bible is the study of the systems in motion in our universe itself. In otherwords, science. Why do you trust evolutionary scientists? The same ones that bought out Education, Agriculture, Medicine, Politicians, Finance world are the SAME ONES pushing the Evolution. Shouldn't that give us all pause? Do you think (((They))) decided to lie to us about everything BUT science?
See
And yes, they are destroying it.
>(((They))) push Evolution so much.....why do you think that is?
Because it's a fact.
>It fits in perfectly with the rest of Satan's agenda which (((they))) also push
Like what, exactly? Be specific.
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Reminder this charlatan was debunked by Thunderf00t 10 years ago
I believe you missunderstood me
It's not a fact. It takes more faith to believe that then anything else. Do your research. You've been lied to.
Don't know what Satan's agenda is? Wew Lad.
I'll boil it down for you. Its taking everything God meant for good and corrupting it with evil.
Sorry
>It's not a fact.
It is, a change over time occurs whether you can grasp the concept or not.
>Don't know what Satan's agenda is? Wew Lad.
I have no reason to believe he exists. Speaking of which, you stated I've been lied to. How do you know you aren't worshipping satan instead of this God? He can't trick you into worshipping him?
>Its taking everything God meant for good and corrupting it with evil.
Then God shouldn't have made a failed creation and evil in the first place.
bump. Evolutionists are free to believe in their fake gay religion if they want to but they shouldn't shove it down everyone's throats.
Notice how they never tackle the multiple proofs that alot of the fossils are faked and staged but continue in their deluded institutionalized pseudo religion. Go practice your hedonism elsewhere hanuman monkey worshipers.
>Evolutionists are free to believe in their fake gay religion if they want to but they shouldn't shove it down everyone's throats.
It's a demonstrable fact, and if you want to make a case for it being a religion i'll hear you out.
>Notice how they never tackle the multiple proofs that alot of the fossils are faked and staged but continue in their deluded institutionalized pseudo religion
Why do you think this solely proves evolution? You are beyond unaware of what evolution is. Changes over time occur regardless of how offended you are by it.
A hypocrite, son.
Evolution is a cop-out for brainlets. We don't even know for certain how all humans came to be from a pair of apes who suddenly had the same chromosome fusion fuck-up that miraculously led to increased intelligence.
Cro magnon people of 200k years ago are the same as the current Europeans. Genetic changes have been negligible despite drastic development in culture and civilisation.
>Evolution is a cop-out for brainlets
Does it hurt being that stupid?
>We don't even know for certain how all humans came to be from a pair of apes who suddenly had the same chromosome fusion fuck-up that miraculously led to increased intelligence
>suddenly
No, and like i've stated too many times in this thread, changes over time occur whether you like it or not. Evolution is a fact. If you want to pretend it's wrong, fine. You don't get different facts. Sorry.
>Genetic changes have been negligible despite drastic development in culture and civilisation
And?
Changes over time do not occur at the constant rate to explain the theories your world view relies on. They come in waves, in bursts. Have you even heard of the chromosome fusion I mentioned?
The ocean contains 1.3x10^29 bacteria which are continually reproducing and being infected by 1x10^31 viruses, which kill off 20%-40% of them every single day.
The average single celled organism divides every 20 minutes. This means that a single line of descent will go through the equivalent of 650,000 years of human evolution every single year.
So you have 1.3x10^29 cells, mixing and dividing randomly every 20 minutes. You don't think they will eventually evolve to form complex life? If even just 1 of these organisms gets a beneficial mutation, they quickly conquer the entire ocean
>Changes over time do not occur at the constant rate to explain the theories your world view relies on.
It doesn't rely on shit, you're too busy not understanding evolution while making uneducated claims on it.
>Have you even heard of the chromosome fusion I mentioned?
What about it? Cut to the chase, i've been here with multiple theists who can't verify their claims, play hide the ball, or pivot and dodge until they leave. Get to your point, wasting this much time on elementary things is getting old.
Guiz, I take Christianity seriously, I do. But I don't buy it. Why the hell would an omnipotent being communicate with us in a way that would look exactly the same if everyone was just making it up?
Let's say you wanted a mind-controlling illusion. You'd probably set up a /comfy/ uterine building with stained glass and incense and such. You'd probably fill it with warm loving feelz and tell people they'll be horribly tortured forever if they leave the group. And if you're gonna eat a guy it's awfully convenient that the guy has the taste and texture and macros of a cracker.
Knowing that there would be lots of false religions and false revelations and false rites, this seems a pretty risky way for the Deity to talk to us.
Everyone believes in adaptation. or as some wrongly term it "micro evolution".. Evolutionists twist this and use it as proof of macro evolution.
It is a religion because the majority of those who espouse it simply go along with what the preachers (lecturers/ professors) tell them and go along blindly believing in it regardless of all the obvious info out there that most fosils are faked.
>Fun fact. one of the main things that pushed Darwin to become a "Darwinist" was when his daughter died after a lot of suffering. and so he became disenfranchised by his Chritian religious views and decided to formulate a hypothesis/religous world view that would better suit his perception of the world around him. tldr-"if God doesnt save my daughter, i'll show Him"
Hovind is da man, he more woke than Jow Forums
You've swung too far to the right because of social justice warriors user. You've gone literally braindead. I am sorry.
>Evolutionists twist this and use it as proof of macro evolution
People use the evidence of evolution to show evolution is a fact. If you can disprove it, why are you on Jow Forums? You could be making millions off of publishing these findings in scientific journals.
>most fosils are faked.
I'll wait for the proof.
>It is a religion because the majority of those who espouse it simply go along with what the preachers (lecturers/ professors) tell them and go along blindly believing in it
Willfully ignoring facts would make it sound like a religion, i see how your flawed and biased thinking got you to this point.
My bad if I'm wrong, but since you replied to someone specifically criticizing the Bible I am going to assume you are a Christian. You make a good argument against Atheistic talking points, and I think many early Christian apologists laid out great arguments for the existence of God. But why should we assume that just because God exists that this somehow validates the claims of Christianity? This is a point of contention that I see, especially considering the very dubious historical claims of the New Testament.
No they wouldnt. Too many competitors for them to make that transition now. Back in the day where the only life existing was single celled, mutating wouldnt result in you just getting eaten by something that feeds on you
>You make a good argument against Atheistic talking points
He made 0 points, they're called assertions he couldn't back up with a single shred of evidence. Then he left the thread because he ran out of word salad.
It is not an elementary level thing. It is how humans came to exist. Research it for yourself, because that is the only way to change your mind.