How bad is the corruption in the Balkans?
How bad is the corruption in the Balkans?
The real question is, who cares how bad the corruption is in the Balkans?
bulgaria is eastern european, NOT balkan
yes
I hear that corruption in the Balkans stays at around Balkans levels of corruption. Look at the Balkans for reference.
Don't include us with them in the future, thanks
Atleast 3, maybe even 4
Yep I've also heared that if you combine the levels of corruption and then divide it by the total number of nations, its pretty much the same as the average.
Interesting stuff..
not as bad as it is in Australia.
I don't think it's as bad as the locals make it seem. I've traveled around and went through many different systems and bureaucracy and don't really find it that corrupt. There's cases here and there but ultimately I think the people in the balkans (primarily ex-yugo) are really prone to conspiracy theories. Lovely countries and people, but they tend to think anything wrong in their lives is a result of some grand conspiracy against them
It's not corruption, we just like tipping civil servants.
This is the most Slovenian response OP could have hoped for.
>they tend to think anything wrong in their lives is a result of some grand conspiracy against them
gee I wonder who does that remind me of
Africa tier, unironically
So what you're saying is that Jow Forums needs to collectively move to the Balkans?
Most of Jow Forums is mixed race mexican goth kids so no
Gib back Kosovo. It's legitimate Romanian clay.
Ayy lmao this.
>define corruption
>define rape
>define traps being gay or not
sthap
balkans are gay pussie niggers
>define traps being gay or not
Dehát NŐIES pénisz.
Az nem lehet buzis!
From What I’ve heard recently. Albania is basically run by their mafias/mobsters. Just have enough cash on you to bribe yourself out of any situation. Sounds like Ukraine in steroids.
*on
you are quintessentially balkan
are you ashamed of your balkan heritage?
I waited for 5 days in line to get my Greek citizenship in order before we realized that we had to bribe someone.
>mfw bulgaria and slovenia think they aren't balkan
Sorry you guys and the rest of the balkans are so irrelevant the rest of the civilized world just lumps you together
bulgaria is balkan you fucking slav
Believe it or not its less than in West AND East power houses.
Our corruption goes till fixed tenders for closed factories and kids of corrupt politicians not going to prison after running over some poor sould with their brand new SUV for 18th bday.
Meanwhile in US for eg. its about invading whole region of Earth bassed on lies that need to be fed through whole MSM machinery with military industrial complex following it up while cowered.
Imagine all the dirty stuff 40 three letter soup agencies uncover in their work and who keeps that stuff hidden.
>tfw you're just as corrupt as the Balkans, but you're just a little bit north of them so people don't group you with them
Its bad like everywhere but on different levels, i have yet to see charts which accurately measure this stuff.
Corruption is high but that's good.It help us avoid libshit laws and directives the EU try to enforce.
True that.
Tipping is a form of personal respect. Unironically. Nothing extreme.
And politicians take a bit more from contracts & state payments.
In the West maybe you don't tip a nurse or public servant but politicians take the lion's share from contractors (if they don't actually own them )
Szarkozi even took millions from fucking Gaddafi.
You don't see that shit here.
Westerners fuch off with
>Muh East block corruption
Once the balkan boomers fuck off it would become more transparent.
Kosovo is literally run by warlords and thugs. I doubt Albanian is much different. I've never visited Kosovo or Albania though because I'm not keen on Albanians
I've been to all the former Yugo countries, Bulgaria and Romania and the one that struck me as most corrupt out of them was Bulgaria. Apparently you can still bribe the police for speeding there, so locals told me.
Slightly better than Africa but worse than any civilised regions.
Ez!
>Bulgaria not Balkans
Meanwhile the Balkan mauntains are located in Bulgaria
Serbs seem cool. Is a vacation to Serbia worthwhile? I wonder if the Zastava firearms plant has tours. Pic related is my npap with wood handguards from the Yugoslav wars.
Come, I bet you wouldn't regret it. Also you can visit Zastava factory. No problem.
Serbia is totally worth visiting. It's chill as fuck. Some of the realest (and not to mentioned redpilled) people I've met are from there.
Beautiful nature too, I went hiking through the Frushka Gora mountains near Novi Sad, when I finished I hitchhiked a ride back to Novi Sad within 20 minutes by a friendly dude who didn't want paying, but I gave him 500 dinars anyway telling him to get himself a few beers.
Sounds pretty /comfy/
I’m seriously considering it. It looks very aesthetic and desu it feels like it’d be genuinely safer than Western Europe. You guys didn’t get hit to bad by the migrant thing did you?
The coil was replaced.
Wat?
Everyone who works for the state is corrupt. 95% of the private sector is controlled by the mafia. Practically all medium and big businesses are built by drug money.If you are uncorrupted you get fired, that's the state of this shithole.
Lurking cause I have a teenage Romanian waifu on standby who can't wait for me to come visit...
serbs are crap
If you come as a foreigner and behave openly and friendly with people everyone will treat you with respect and would wan't to do you a favour or show you around.
If you come and act like a typical American arrogant tourrist nobody would even talk to you and you might even get beat up.
Some years back a dude sent two American marines to hospital for being assholes at a club.
I’m American but I’m pretty relaxed and soft spoken. Would being into guns help? I’m working on collecting more Yugoslavian/Serbian guns. Have a Zastava double barrel shotgun coming tomorrow and hopefully going to get a yugo RPK soon too.
The recoil spring? Yeah I changed it out for a stronger one so I don’t crack the trunnion. Only bad thing about the pap rifles was the weak recoil springs.
all the balkan people who emigrated in the uk or france are human piece of trash. If you go there they're all nice and chill (even in albania)
100% corrupted
There is so much to see. Nature, historical sites,parties, good food, music, people...
Migrants come and go. Their goal is to get gibbs in Western Europe. They don't have a reason to stay here.
Oh how do y’all feel about pic related? My jna jacket with a repro patch. (Wood was diff color in this pic cause had to fix cracked upper handguard.)
Stop calling SE-Europe by the disgusting roach name "Balkan"
Also this number is wrong. A lot of people have illegal guns. I myself have 4 guns in my household and only one registered.
The police take guns from people very easily.
My grandpa got into and argument with his neighbour and the police came and took his gun because the neighbour repoted him and said he fears for his life.
Serbia is unironically one of the ugliest countries in Europe architecture-wise. Unpleasant people, no culture, food is okay but nothing special... Homemade Pálinka is the only thing they have going for them.
2/10 don't visit.
Good enough to keep people away.
t. Serbshit in Austristan
>Steven Scott
You do know this guy is American and his mother is Puerto rican.
>Architecture
Yeah some of it is pretty bad and ugly brutalist communist shit but that's only one part.
Based and redpilled of you. I like Yugoslav guns. Want an rpk a Mauser and a tokarev next. I’d like to see Zastava’s factory.
Can u tell Latvian girl that stopped answering my messages thank u for porzingis
It would make Sauron quiver.
If Tolkien was alive he'd probably think Mordor is kindergarten.
>How bad is the corruption in the Balkans?
It's a wide topic of discussion. I can speak about my country and from my personal limited point of view only. Corruption lives here and is endemic to our society but it's far more sophisticated than the stereotypical sleazy government official demanding money upfront. You see, most corruption here is organized. Free lancers do not exist for long and are usually persecuted and charged. The said corruption goes upwards and feeds the ruling party/parties black accounts. Along the way individuals do take some money for themselves but that alone is hardly the problem. Almost every private/public partnership is given to companies that coincidentally win all other competitions. Our projects are almost always over paid, delayed and under standards. With money siphoned every step. The big government institutions are bloated, ineffective and the system put in place that allows citizens to interact with them are byzantine enough to warrant some to seek giving out bribes just to get their case solved. The government talks all the time about reforms that are never applied properly and claim to work in making dealing with them efficient and electronic, both not happening.
All in all, you might as a regular citizen never face any on this but our society as a whole is bleeding resources to feed a select few. Thus our economy is a joke as no one ambitious enough will be spared the bribes and thus many de-motivated people either not bother becoming entrepreneurs or just fuck off abroad.
I can entertain few personal anecdotes provided interest is provided.
>brutalist
It's not just your brutalist architecture that is ugly, friend. I can't think of a decent looking city South of Vajdaság.
Why are Amerimutts so obsessed with guns.
Jow Forums is balkans.
This is my personal favourite.
Zastava M-57
7.62 mm caliber (AKs use the same)
Based on Tokarev TT-33
Armor vests don't help.
Then go back to Hungary you mongoloid.
Nope, we are so poor migrants suicide here when they hear they got asylum in Serbia over Germany
I usually post on Jow Forums, and I’d imagine cause we can have and use them relatively easy so more people take them up as a hobby. I like guns for shooting competition, collecting, building etc.
pic related is a polish AK I built from a parts kit.
>AKs use the same
I’m looking at an m57 myself. It’s just a tokarev but it’s made in Serbia which is kind of a focus for some of the stuff I buy.
Based Germany absorbing the shit so I can spend my muttbux in a /comfy/ Balkan state.
I think he means same barrel diameter. 7.62x25 is not 7.62x39 but they had 30 cal pistols cause they could use the same barrel blanks for them.
Stop being so fucking rude to me, you cunts.
It;s the same caliber. Only a different charge. AKs use more gunpowder.
Probably not nearly as bad as this shithole
>not buiding a UF
do ya think 556 or 762 will be better in any kind of politically motivated violent occurrence, given that we live in america
enought
the daily gypsy
you can be both Beton
Corruption is a made up term w*stern capitalists came up with
this, you don't even have to give money, bottles of whiskey, pršut(smoked ham with bone) and other delicacies work too
I have the yugo DF already I wanted a classic one.
Depends on your personal preferences.
7.62mm is much faster and lighter and just goes thru people.
This same gun also comes in a 9mm variant which is heavier and slower and it knocks poeple back and remains in their bodies.
>Romania,Moldova
>Balkans
eksdee
traps are guy and I can prove it.
>t. the usual alboroach turk hiding behind the meme flag that would put him into an oven
only turk strongholds like albania and maybe bosnia should be called "balkan" since they're obviously not european
the rest is Süd-Ost-Europa
That's true for Kosovo but not for Albania, I've done business there
Countries like Serbia and Croatia have corruption when it comes to government projects and bureaucracy but I'd give Serbia a clear edge in this because the private sector (as opposed to Croatia) is completely free, it's basically the wild West while Croatia has heavy gov influence over private businesses and the corruption that comes with it.
The worst is Bosnia (which I know) and I suppose Kosovo (since it is similar - being a failed state and all)
In Bosnian Muslim regions young girls even have to spread their legs on the university for their professors and whoever has power there to be able to pass an exam or enter a course.
You wouldn't believe what I heard and saw there.
There is no distinction between private and gov gang run sectors anymore, everything is controlled by a few people who are kinda like warlords, only they don't kill people as much as they would in a warzone.
But I have no doubt they would if the situation changed.
The Serbian part of Bosnia is similar but it is kinda like soft Fascism or something like it.
Everybody is pressured to act in a certain way to preserve their Nationalist goals.
Corruption is still high but they mainly use it to ensure tribal loyalty besides doing it for personal enrichment.
The Muslim part is only personal enrichment, very little work for the community.
That's the countries I know of. Montenegro is supposedly party Mafia run (I noticed lots of expensive cars without even having numbers plates) but I never did business there or work there so I don't know how it is.
Only thing I know is that bureaucracy is very big there, getting the gov to allow you to expand a building (I did that 10 years ago or so) takes forever and is very problematic, probably because they expected me to give them bribes, which I refused.
>I've done business there
You havent seen nothing blupilled boi
No. I mean a 7.62x39 does use more powder, but the projectiles are not the same.
Maybe it's different in rural regions, but Tirana is not Mafia run.
No one tried to extort me there or pressured me to deal with shady people. Maybe it's because I'm a foreigner, who knows.
But I have no doubt that they have a Mafia there just like everywhere else, it just didn't touch me.
Ofc they are not the same. But they are the same caliber. That was my point.
>No one tried to extort me there or pressured me to deal with shady people.
That's not what mafia do
>but Tirana is not Mafia run.
lel
Kinda how a Tok is the same caliber as a mosin.
How easy it is to acquire a firearm in Yugoslavia if you don't have any connections there?
what's the preferred whiskey of a politician in the balkans? how about a pleb? i don't picture burger ones making it there.
>inb4 scottish
you probably meant scotch
That's exactly what Mafia does. They want a cut of your business profits without giving anything in return, except for promising not to hurt you or your business.
I did not experience such a thing there. But I'm not dealing in the entertainment industry running shady bars or stuff like that, I sell software development and related services.
Serbia is the best. Definitley go visit