Green are countries with larger GDP per capita than in Ukraine. Red are countries with smaller GDP per capita than in Ukraine.
Ukraine was the industrial heartland of the USSR with largest manufacturing per capita ratio in the entire soviet union with ±20k GDP per capita in US dollars (now 7500). Much of the Soviet aerospace, rocketry, telecommunication and chemical production came from the Ukrainian SSR.
What happened? And why is the NPCs in the West support the Ukrainian politicians that have completely destroyed their country over the past 30 years?
Probably government corruption also people kinda just tore everything down when the union fell and shared the spoils among themselves Atleast that's what happened here
Anthony Evans
Mix of corruption and being Russia’s play toy.
Their president is literally an oligarch who takes Obama’s dick at a dollar per stroke
Eli Ortiz
>why is the NPCs in the West support the Ukrainian politicians that have completely destroyed their country over the past 30 years?
Why do foreigners support the destruction of an economic competitor? The better question is why do Ukrainians think the "support" of a foreigner is in their interest.
Tyler Butler
Ukraine is the Belgium of East Europe. It's not even a real nation it's just a buffer state. There has been a low-key proxy war trying to wrest control of the Ukraine for a long time, so of course it's not going to be very stable.
Dominic Edwards
>why is the NPCs in the West support the Ukrainian politicians
this massive brainwashing is on english-speaking countries and some european, here we dont even care about them.
>also people kinda just tore everything down when the union fell and shared the spoils among themselves How do you mean? They destroyed schools and shops because they were built in the USSR?
>There has been a low-key proxy war trying to wrest control of the Ukraine for a long time, so of course it's not going to be very stable. It's been like 30 years now
So, here I thought Russia was pissed because they were losing their ability to dictate Ukraine's policies to Ukraine? Now you want us to think that Ukraine was stand-alone all this time?
FUCKING RUSSIAN MURDERS INVADED A SOVEREIGN NATION IN EUROPE, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AGGRESSION.
Eli Morales
Ukraine is a stepping stone for a precedent of aggression. If one annexation of a weak country takes place, more can follow. Support for Ukraine is support against antagonists making rapid annexations without repercussions.
There were these massive collective farms called kolkhozes full of tech, those were destroyed by the people Schools were nationalized Big factories were sold to foreigners officially for pennies, unofficially politicians took the undisclosed amounts to their pockets
Andrew Foster
Perestroyka was a mistake >shiroka strona moya rodnaya
Good evening Kremlin bros, have you seen the documentary Icarus?
Samuel Rodriguez
The real catastrophy of ukraine is that its impossible to live there without steeling. I used to have a book store in lviv in 2014. Now i work as a janitor in israel and still get more cash than most people with better jobs back at home. 2 million people left in a year. This is the death of my contry
You mean Moscow is Rus clay, and Rus originated in Kiev. So European Russia is Ukraine's by blood.
Jace Martin
Ethnic cleansing are a staple of european - and world - history. Western Europe just has managed to finish them earlier.
Benjamin Ramirez
Ukraine was a human garbage can. All worst people from Crown and Russia gathered there and built their own nation. They're worst of us and that's why they can't govern themselves.
Jack Scott
Working late tonight, Igor? Could your employer no longer afford a proxy so you have to resort to memeflags?
Kevin Jackson
>All worst people from Crown and Russia gathered there and built their own nation. Implying they did that.
>the irony The chances are you all live in England and are visiting home for a bit. Do mamusia's pierogi still taste as good as ever?
Michael Gonzalez
OMG, a Russian who knows how to speak Polish? That's amazing, good for your educational system, you can do business in Poland with fewer barriers. Such a wonderful thing. In any event, your glow is getting brighter.
You would suggest that the Russians, who just told us that Islam is their friend, are some great and just thing? How is Kaliningradsiky Zaliv this evening? Did you get your first pockets of ice yet?
Juan Miller
Google Wołynian slaughter and maybe you will understand why we're not keen of ukrainian cunts. To this day they praise Bandera as their national hero.
ukrainian emmigrant spotted. Glad you got to finland, your brethern here tend to do all toilet cleaning
Samuel Taylor
ukrainians are good people better than russians but goverment is shit
>y-you m-must be Ukrainian y-yourself Back to work, Mateusz. The toilet can not wait anymore.
Bentley Ward
he isn't talking proper polish but proper street polish with no flaws.
it seems more like you are hohol diaspora if you can't see anything wrong with Ukraine being so backwards to any other country in similar situation since you've got independence from soviet union. in 1990 you had bigger gdp per capita than we did, now we have like 5-6 times more. and even Belarus did much better even though they were in Russian sphere of influence too
So you're siding with Russia, who literally split your shit in half as you were fighting off the Germans? Makes zero sense, unless your coat's Red lining is well hidden.
Landon Price
I side with myself you stupid cunt I won't support people who want to kill me
back to licking Putin's ass
Michael Ross
As detrimental as Nazi's may have been to the white cause, you must admit they took some heavy duty on themselves with all that Holocaust business, and God only knows where we may be without it.
Austin Wood
Uhh Putin took Crimea which was the source of 80% of Ukraine's forex.
Isaiah King
how can it not be shit if they were governed by other powers for the 900 years straight and only chimped out occasionaly
Carson Sanders
>back to licking Putin's ass That is a precise description of what you are doing here at the moment.
Zachary Wood
Did you mean GDP per capita? India is most definitely a bigger economy than ukraine
Caleb Evans
How many times has Russia literally cut your nation in half in just the last 400 years?
Benjamin Nelson
Twice, what's your point?
>hating people who slaughtered children and women in tens of thousands just because they were Polish ,the same people who are worshipped by ukrainians to this day is supporting Putin
Kill yourself
Landon Ortiz
NATO wanted to take it because it had Russian naval base which stopped american marines from invading Syria couple months earlier. they literally got their fleet near the coast but russian blocked them with black sea fleet which is stationed in Crimean naval base
Ukraine doesn't have economy anyway
Bentley Smith
It's in the middle of a civil war for starters. It's also corrupt as fuck. Ukraine is fucked and can't into exist.
Ryan Ortiz
As long as Belarus and Ukraine exists as buffer states, then Ukraine is unironically a bigger threat to Poland short-term right now. Russia besides isn't completely kike-owned anymore and at least much less than the US. Smart Poles hope someone better than Putin comes to power in Russia, so they can have neutral/good relations with them. Isn't happening with PiS sucking US cock right now.
Jack Allen
You sound like you have the Stockholm syndrome. Many Poles do, in fact. You are afraid to criticize Russia because it is a large power so you have to do with using Ukraine as a target instead.
Levi Nelson
If you count the late 1800's as one event (3 separate events), then at least 3 times by my eastern European history lacking education.
Camden Phillips
Kaliningrad is not Russian territory, and the Russians would never walk through a buffer state.
Jaxson Powell
>Let me, a fingoloid, tell you how poles feel. Can you just not grasp the simple concept that we just fucking hate hohols?
>disliking people who praise murderers of your nation is syndrom stockholme
What a fucking idiot
I'm counting partitions and Ribbentrop - Molotov. If you want to count all the times we've been host to russian troops it'd be much more. Napoleon wars,then russians trying to spread communism after WWI and during WWII we had them like 3 times back and forth. Also not counting uprisings
Luis Robinson
They've just been through fucking hell, why do you think? And communist countries somehow deemed industrial always suffer the worst.
Gabriel Powell
Was Belarus Polish? Was the "Congress Poland" Polish?
I ask because I don't know how your people think of these places.
Nathaniel Roberts
Good.
Fuck the ukraine.
Subhuman country, hopefully even more depopulated and impoverished next year.
>Be Ukraine >Have the best arable lands in the world >Inherit huge post-soviet heavy industry - amounting to about 40% of total soviet industry >Inherit 52 million people, 1/4 of all soviet population >Inherit nukes and huge stockpiles of obsolete, but still potent, arms and munitions >Still turn into a massive HIV ridden shithole, with an economy of an African country, lost over 8 million people since 1991 and be universally hated everywhere This is why we call them the niggers of Europe.
The reason why you are showing all these infographics is that you have noticed that Ukraine usually fares even worse than Poland in those statistics. You have found a country that may be in a worse state than yours so you want that to be made known.
All in all, all of this stems from your own inferiority.
Ayden Butler
Native Yugoslav talking about Subhuman countries. :D But really, they're on the other side of the mountains, are you really that butt-hurt about their success?
Charles Roberts
True, i concede that. Doesn't change the fact that a dangerously stupid, militarizing Ukraine that thinks some warlord who butchered Poles is a national hero is more dangerous than the Russian Federation short-term.
You don't seem to understand that a big guy who is relatively smart (Russia) is less dangerous than a mentally deranged person from /x/ (Ukraine). Poland can ally and negotiate with Russia if things get tough, no such things with Ukraine. Besides Russia has shown little interest in acquiring Poland. Subjugate them through economic means - yes, but the EU/US is doing that anyway to Poland.
Joshua Harris
>Congress Poland yes >Belarus Belarus iterritory belonged to Lithuania which engaged in Union with Poland, for long time this territory up to Smoleńsk was under Crown's cotnrol.
Hmm why do Polish people hate Ukrainians?
Was it slaughter involving tearing children apart and slaughtering women with saws while they cry in pain?
Nah finhohol knows better,it's all inferiority.
Unironically kill yourself.
Cameron Hughes
>militarizing Ukraine They just got invaded, what are they supposed to do, apologize to Russia?
Joseph Flores
>kill yourself >kill yourself >kill yourself Sounds like you have not quite passed the edgy teenager phase yet.
Cameron Barnes
Seems like you don't really have arguments, kill yourself.
Luke Ortiz
Poland is doing fine, Japan-level homicide rates and in PPP, Poles are 60% as wealthy as the average western dude.
Jaxon Peterson
Worse than us!!!!! OH SHITERUYO!
Noah Powell
I do, the only response you manage to come with is just a command to commit suicide. If my observations were not so true, you would not become this infuriated.
Sebastian Howard
>Poland can ally and negotiate with Russia if things get tough, no such things with Ukraine. If you say so, Yuri. I still think Kaliningrad Bay is probably starting to freeze for the winter, but I guess you know better.
Levi Barnes
>t's in the middle of a civil war for starters.
Can you mutts not read graphs? This one has already been posted above
Boohoo, poor Ukraine... We're talking about Poland's POV, they don't care, they only think that the Ukrainian army might turn West someday...
You don't seem to get that reducing Ukraine to 1/3 of its size and demilitarizing it is both in Poland's and Russia's interest
Alexander Gonzalez
>The real catastrophy of ukraine is that its impossible to live there without steeling. I used to have a book store in lviv in 2014. Now i work as a janitor in israel and still get more cash than most people with better jobs back at home. 2 million people left in a year. This is the death of my contry
This is really depressing... I am sorry for you and your country. Are you a Ukrainian (presumably with a jewish relative) btw?
Thomas Myers
on the other hand when you look at their national heroes and history before this hell, you'll realize they've been asking for it all along. just like niggers in zimbabwe.
they told people governing them to fuck off, viciously murdered those defensless they could caught and later are crying because poverty, holodomor, aids... while wewuzing about 1500 old Kievan Rus, which they don't even want to be associated with(as it's too close to Russia) so they call themselves Ukrainians as we and Russians used to call them since Kievan Rus...
Camden Murphy
I'm calm, but there is no point in your existance since you are morbidly stupid and you can't get one simple fact through your skull
Camden Sullivan
Yes, clearly Ukraine has mobilized to be an offensive power. That makes complete sense while 3 of their states are under complete or partial occupation. Remind me me when you graduated Elementary?
Jackson Garcia
except you got colonized by the EU and the rest are retarded memecountries with no surface area, only ukrania and romania are country-sized real estate
Leo Howard
Right, they are doing fine in comparison to a war-thorn country. It has become very much evident that this fact is the greatest source of pride for the Polish nation.
Adrian Watson
>Be Ukraine >Have a huge and mighty army >Cannot deal with a bunch of chimping our russian peasants armed with AK-47s and a couple dozens of BUK missile launchers from 1960s.
>Right, they are doing fine in comparison to a war-thorn country.
Can you not Mongoloids not read graphs?
See and
Brayden Lee
You can't even spell 'existence' correctly while attempting to label me as stupid. The irony is just growing stronger.
Isaac Hernandez
>Clearly Ukraine has mobilized to be an offensive power. How are they going to retake "their" Eastern territories then? Is it to hard to get that Poles and Russians actually can't get along, while nobody can get along with larpers from the Borderlands?
David Butler
>can't *can
Juan Reed
>Mexico
Their economy is literally worse than Zimbamwe's
Jose Jenkins
So instead of revoking point you go for spelling, true scholar right here.
Isaac Ward
You do realize we're not going to stop backing Ukraine, which means they are staying on the planet. And while I humor you Yuri, as a Pollock, I am rather more of the belief that you are proxy-Ivan. In any event, I think the last thing you actually want is an expanding Russia on your border, but what do I know.
Jacob Butler
What is your point? I stated that Poland is doing fine in comparison to a war-thorn country (that is, Ukraine). Good for Poland, I would not be surprised if they were proud about being ahead of Somalia and Syria as well.
Evan Morgan
>I stated that Poland is doing fine in comparison to a war-thorn country (that is, Ukraine). >to a war-thorn country (that is, Ukraine).
Their economy was in the same shambles before the war started. One might even argue the war started because their economy for the previous 20 years was worse than Swaziland's
Michael Evans
>Claim to be polish >From america >Cannot even speak polish >Ergo you're just another amerimut Jamal Rodriguez Shekelstein.
what the fuck is that number, are they counting the superduper rich in that? it´s like 5-6 thousand dollar range here hey but we have the fattest people in the world, that has to count for something right?
Daniel Rivera
It's not like the current Ukraininan government was handpicked by the West, right?
Landon Nelson
Never claimed to be Polish. Thank you for being mistaken.
Luis Turner
I have presented my point which you have responded to with nothing but a melange of bluster, rage and tears. Basically you are rageposting about Ukraine here because they were mean to your people once.
Cooper Butler
>What happened? The Soviets systematically starved ethnic Ukrainians during 1932 and 1933. It has never really recovered as a result.
Carter Sullivan
Its Lwów my Israeli-bro. Lwów. Before russians took it from us it was a very nice and prospering city.
Literally said: >And while I humor you Yuri, as a Pollock Your nose is showing Shlomo
Gavin Ross
>hey but we have the fattest people in the world, that has to count for something right?
I meant Ukraine's economy is worse than Swaziland's. Not yours. Your GDP per capita is literally 2.5 times bigger than Ukraine/Swaziland's
Samuel Scott
>war-thorn country I can accept that Ukraine is getting used in a proxy-conflict between NATO and Russia, but you're exaggerating here. Is this your silly post-cognitive dissonance reasoning as to why Ukrops can't into nation-building unlike their big neighbors?
Go back to /x/
Jason Morris
I don't know. Is that YOU as the EU, since they started this with the attempt to join the EU? Or is that US as the West? In any event, why the meme-flag?
Lincoln King
Because they're a meme country with mo unifying identity, unity and solidarity. Ukraine, krai means border in Slavonic, ukraine is the borderland. Literally just the border between Russia and Poland Pic related