So I am a hard working person. Manage property...

Oh I understand this. Looking for decent options. Not le jews

I'm not wasting time. I'm very functional. Which is the issue. How do I stop it.

Slow down on the alcohol, find a substitute thats less destructive to your system.
Find a hobby too, maybe?

Become a Mormon?

I'm a very high functioning alcoholic but I want to stop it but liquor is so appealing. I understand it but can not stop doing it though I want to. A demon drive.

Not the religious type, but I respect religion.

It's about developing a cognitive tool set to prevent emotional disturbance from ballooning into the panic that drives compulsion. Substance abuse revolves around a specific type of compulsion-motivating panic having to do with a feeling of "needing" to be able to "scratch the itch" at a moment's notice; if you don't have alcohol (or weed, or heroin, etc.) you feel upset and jumpy and nervous. The e-cig gives you something else to "press the button" with so that you can neuter that panic while you learn the other cognitive-emotional skills - having to do with maintaining discipline, understanding that discipline has to be paired with consistency to achieve long-term results, and indulging in vices in moderation - which will help you build yourself up over the long term.

So develop the e cig and then break off from their?

there+

If you have 20 drinks a day, have 18 tomorrow, and when you're getting nervous and uncomfortable because you want those extra 2, hit the e-cig instead. Repeat until you aren't drinking. It's about having something to else to take the place of that compulsion; you could fill the hole with "God" or "exercise" or something too, but getting a little instant chemical reward is easier. Obviously developing a nicotine addiction is a risk and that isn't the best thing in the world, but even then, that'd be a hell of a lot easier on your body than slamming a shitload of liquor every night.

how do i into property management as a side hustle? I have 20 K saved and save a few K every month, but I have a full time job.

get addicted to lifting

You ever tried AA?

I lift every day still. Its just he compulsion to drink

Don't like the idea. Don't think it will help. Lots of puffed up BS. I understand what i'm doing and why I do it. Just looking for alternatives and better options/

You're spending plenty of time down whenever you are drunk. Use that energy somewhere else.

Buy small land. Become Baltic avenue.

I'll offer my advice if you answer my question.

That is what i'm trying to find.

Find low rent areas. Buy land and rent to people. Be ready to fix shit at a moments notice. Will not be nice areas.

meme answer. You deserve your drinking problem fag.

Look at the compulsion as "the negative feeling you get from the idea of not indulging in the drink". The actual cognitive-emotional experience of it is a type of fear, an echo of panic, a desire to run from the pain of resisting the compulsion.

You have to be ready to fix shit at a moments notice. Undercut other renters and find trustworthy people. isn't easy but its fun.

Yeah, I get that. It's helped millions of people get sober though so they must be doing something right.

I reckon so.

I went from drinking idk 100oz+ a day of ipas...I was EXTREMELY addicted to beer. I felt like shit every morning, lost my appetite, gained a ton of weight. I was addicted to carbonated drinks. I switched to coke..12 pack a day easy..felt worse, gained weight. I was lost. But I knew I wanted to feel better. I've now switched to drink cold as fuck water...idk but it's helped me tremendously. I don't crave beer anymore, I'm actually sick of it. Drink one now and I feel like shit. If I get a buzz of any kind I get nausea now. Losing weight, feel great in the am now. This was a span of idk 1 year..been drinking 20+ years.
good luck user. Seeking help (even if it's here) is a GIANT start.
Godspeed

Don't attempt to quit cold-turkey as that can actually kill you. Try to set realistic goals for limiting your alcohol intake. Don't beat yourself up if you fail to meet them. [spoiler]Pray about it.[/poldoesnthavespoilers]

Just hate the Idea.

I take back what I said. Probably not possible if I have a full time job.
Regarding your drinking, do you disassociate often in your daily life? Disassociation with the world around you can be a great euphoric escape from the world and problems, temporarily. You may already be doing that too much, hence the heavy drinking. Are you getting laid?

Go to the advice board,not here. This board is about politics not your personal blog.

I don't touch beer. Have no appetite other than I need it. Drink hard liquor but keep pushing. I know this isn't the right way to be.

I trust the folks here more than anywhere.

Listen to Rush Limbaugh and disavow info war style (((Alternatives))) that are a waste your time and money.

If you're a union laborer, vote either democrat or Trump.

There, I saved you a ton of time.

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Although this is fact, sir. You can fuck right off. As you can see, out here in the usa, some folks still like to help each other

I doubt very many of those millions thought it sounded like an awesome idea when they first started going. Doing something that's tough isolated is always harder than doing it with support.

I've pushed more folks in my drunken rants to vote for trump. I'm just looking for healthy alternatives.

Do you shake when you haven't had a drink in a while?

I'm looking for folks who create decent solutions. Like would supplementing the drinking with building something out of wood. Could that be an option.

No. I'm very high functioning. Never have got shakes.

Which I understand is the issue. I can handle it well but I know what I do isn't good.

>stop drinking.
I won't go into that. A simple internet search will show you what you need to do.
>stop paying as much attention to politics
My recommendation: stop going on Jow Forums
>find an outlet
user, it sounds like you may be slightly wound tight. Find something to take up your time and energy. For example, I play fantasy football. For a physical release, I regularly exercise. Find something that suits you.

First decide for yourself: this is ok to drink.
Second: do i want to stop drimking? if yes then:
FOR WHAT?
ask yourself

this is nothing wong to die by alcohol imo
everyone will die anyway and maybe not that fast and wit horrible pain

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Ah but the politics of things brings me so much joy.

no mention of family, I'm guessing you have weak ties.

reconnect with family as much as you can. and childhood friends you grew apart from. our sense of morality and duty comes from our connections to the people we love. this is why atomized urban bugmen care only about hedonistic indulgence and join movements like Jow Forumschildfree.

Listen bro. I'm not sure how old you are right but listen to me very very carefully. I used to be just like you. Lifting and working and able to drink my hearts content at night. Alcohol stays in your system for days so every time you drink you're adding it into your system. Soon you will lose energy. Become lethargic and YES you will find yourself unable to go to the gym or unwilling. By unable I mean having a higher blood pressure. I was just like you. I thought I can balance it but alcohol is a slow poison. It will eat you up slowly over time. Right now I'm currently curbing it. The only thing that helps me to curb it is to not be alone at night and AA. Go to AA and get some help. If not, the only thing you can do is avoid what you do or where you go to drink. Avoid it like the plague. For me it was night time posting on the computer. I had to stop and just stay on my bed and not go to my computer. I'm one day sober after drinking every single night for years end. The only way to sobriety and to kick the addiction is to stop doing what you normally do before you start drinking. It's a habit. Maybe you watch tv on the couch and then drink. So avoid the TV then go straight to bed and dont you dare get up and do it. You can't do this alone. You need to have someone physically present or believe in God that he is watching you. I'm working on it myself and I have been on this road before. Soon you will experience these things
>impulsive actions
>foggy state of mind
>never ending hang over because you don't stop to recover
>lethargic
>feeling out of control of your life
>unable to perform with your dick
>gut growing problem

I'm not going to go into details about my life but I went through a complete 180 of who I used to be.

Just me and a dog.

I have this but with spicy food and my gut flora

If you're in a big city then there would likely be dozens of different groups around. There's all men's groups where I live. They get together outside of AA all the time. I'm sure you could find some dudes with the same interests.

Believe me, I know. It is like an addiction in itself. However, continually seeing what is wrong with the world begins to take a toll on one's mind.

I'm a southern baptism as much as I love this place I don't believe in god. I hate to depend on others but truth in what you have said sir.

i'm just seeking decent healthy options. Something else to focus my mind on.

Also just saw that. My dick works fine.

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A creative outlet or exercise. Ideally both. You need a constructive alternative to fill your drinking time with that makes you feel good and is rewarding so you enjoy yourself. Exercise is a no brainer - it will be difficult at first if you've been on the sauce for a while, but will gradually help you feel much better and you will then begin to feel and see the benefits.

You might find you need to take some time out from mates who you drink with regularly, which will be key. If you take up exercise or some form of creative outlet/hobby, you can cite this as a reason for not participating. This will have the added benefit of revealing your true mates, as they will support or be totally fine with your decision.

For now friend. Just wait until your blood pressure changes. Like I said it's a slow poison that will slowly kill you over time. Mine worked like a raging bull but suddenly I can't get it up and when I did perform my body temperature went up and I couldn't enjoy it. You have to learn to curb it now before your body starts feeling the impact. Or maybe you're the type of person who thinks you can just stop sometime in the future and just enjoy it now. Good luck. Maybe in the future you might remember my warnings. I want you to google "wet brain" and look at the symptoms. My aunt died from that after losing her only kid. Alcoholism is a fucking curse.

I tend to drink alone but this seems like a good option. Just focus off time to working out. My drinking is all self induced.

My body is hard and alcoholics are a plenty. This mindset has not stifled me one bit.

Good God you're just like me when I was younger. Not believing in a higher power, mentally talented, physically in shape and more so of a lonely drinker. If there was something I could tell my past self that is go on a hiking trip and spend the night camping for a week of no drinking. Do it. Take a vacation. Just do it and curb it now and save yourself the trouble in the future.

Don't be so naive son. The body will give in if you continue.

I played with ninja turtles in the back pews using bibles as buildings while my preacher spoke

That's my biggest fear. sir.

I do respect religion but just don't follow it myself. Can not believe in it. Love the Idea. Just can't get behind it.

how much do you drink?

Could consume a full bottle of 40% liquor in a standing and not feel it.

Which is awful.