What is the issue with giving Trans people equal rights and treatment as everyone else?
Explain to me how allowing someone to live as the gender they identify with infringes on the rights of others. I've yet to see a convincing argument for this.
However, in spite of that, plenty of Americans think that businesses should be able to discriminate against Trans employees, and "Transgender panic" is an acceptable defense for murder in many states. Would anyone really be worse off if Transgender individuals were protected from discrimination in the same way that other minorities are?
she has the right to sit on my face and allow me to fellate her cute feminine penis
Asher Myers
Protection from discrimination in the workplace. The ability to change identification documents. Lack of coverage for medical procedures. I can go on and on
Ethan Davis
Let’s see if OP can even answer this question.
Logan Cook
All of them you bigot nazi give me welfare REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Jack Adams
They don't have the right to enforce their delusion onto my reality, faggot.
Jackson Barnes
>The ability to change identification documents.
This one is too far.
If they've had surgery, mabye, otherwise it's simply a fact, like their height. I can't beliebe Ireland even allows them to change their birth certificate. Why not their birth weight.
The world's fucking mental.
Andrew Morgan
Where in the constitution does it guarantee those things?
Jayden Martinez
Just did.
What delusion?
Isaiah Morales
fpbp. Just like gays and every other victim group, they already have the same rights as everyone else. They want extra rights.
Those sound like made up problems, buddy. If you mentally ill shits aren’t being lynched on sight then I’d day your rights are doing just fine.
Carter Bailey
Which amendment though?
Justin Richardson
Its gay
William Jackson
Implied by the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment
Because the gender assigned at birth is often wrong?
Christopher Phillips
Mental illness shouldn't be condoned as desirable or normal
Austin Lopez
Men don't even have protection from discrimination for having a BEARD or long hair, you know natural biological features. So why should trannies be given special protections for (appearances) when no one else is.
Hunter Stewart
14th.
Adrian Howard
>666 ok Satan, why should insurance cover something like that? its pretty costly to cover things that very few people need to get. Why should the government forced everyone in the country to pay more for thier insurance because you want to cut your dick off?
Camden Rodriguez
>Hurr let me deconstruct biology by pretending I don't understand basic aspects of humanity that fucking toddlers can grasp
Wyatt Hughes
I say trans people who pass should be able to do whatever the fuck they want, because nobody will notice them desu. The 240 lb bearded woman is an affront to reality though, and forcing people to grit their teeth and pretend that isn't an abomination against the very nature of humanity, that infringes on everyone else. Plus, if you just bullied people, nobody would want to be a tranny anyway
Camden Collins
>Because the gender assigned at birth is often wrong?
Look at this. They’re actually crazy. This is why they’ll never be accepted on our side. We’re meant to be the sane ones. Anyone who disagrees can fuck off to the left.
Jacob Brown
Besides we all know (protections) in the workplace just means (you can't fire me because I'm protected). No matter how shitty a job you do. It's just Gibs.
Isaac Butler
i really feel like i shouldnt get a boner looking at that
Angel Ramirez
>Protection from discrimination in the workplace Nope, nobody need hire anyone, and if your choice is to deny the actual condition of your body in such a way as to castrate yourself, there is no reason by which a business should be tied to keeping you in employ. Not only are you simply are not stable, you're an embarrassment to logic. Anyone who thinks "Gee, that isn't my penis" is not sane. You're not changing DNA, you will never be the opposite gender, and you're literally forcing permanent chemical imbalance. There is no sanity in that decision. So there is no requirement to keep you employed, you have lost your ship. Next you will be arguing that we must keep alcoholics.
Aaron Anderson
eh this... as much as I'd fuck that thing. They are mentally ill. The correlations and other statistics back it up.
Jackson Hall
>its pretty costly >very few people need to get
First, these statements are in contradiction.
Second, Trangsender health needs are not expensive. The upper estimate for the amount of money the military spends on ALL Transgender recruits is 9 million per year.
Jaxon Miller
in true tans tradition kys, now!
Colton Hernandez
>Because the gender assigned at birth is often wrong? its 100% correct. dick and balls? guy vagina? girl. lmao, cant believe some people are this crazy irl.
Samuel Powell
>Protection from discrimination in the workplace They have that right as much as anyone else, you don't get to make up new things that you are offended by >The ability to change identification documents I don't have that right, why should they? >Lack of coverage for medical procedures Then they should get insurance that does cover it? That isn't a right >I can go on and on I don't think you even know what rights are
Bentley Rivera
I have the very convincing argument that those freaks and their sympathizers like you will burn in a pyre, fucking disgusting degenerates.
How dare a business hire an employee who is addicted to drugs. How dare they!
Daniel Ward
>What is the issue with giving Trans people equal rights and treatment as everyone else? They aren't equal. They have a mental disorder and refuse to take care of themselves, part of this issue can be placed onto the parents which do very little to help them and convince them that this is normal, psychologically this is very unsafe and self-destructive.
>Explain to me how allowing someone to live as the gender they identify with infringes on the rights of others There are numerous cases of people just shouting and shutting down any kind of opposition. Canada issued a law for this, article 16, or whatever it's called. Where you must use someone's preferred pronoun over their biological one which now infringes on freedom of speech since it's enforced. Anything besides male/female/neutral (typically for objects in English) is just made up. Any argument that wants to use the pronoun "they" points towards Shakespearean English which is ~500 years old or so at this point and outdated -it's Middle English not Modern English.
>However, in spite of that, plenty of Americans think that businesses should be able to discriminate against Trans employees, and "Transgender panic" is an acceptable defense for murder in many states. Would anyone really be worse off if Transgender individuals were protected from discrimination in the same way that other minorities are?
What do you even mean here? I've never heard of this and I don't think anyone else has. Pretty sure you're just making strongman arguments at this point to come off as powerful
Yeah I'm ok only if penis is removed. Otherwise penis threatens my private woman spaces. Prove you're commuted to being a transwoman or else you're just LARPing trying to get into women's locker rooms and prisons.
Benjamin Jackson
How do you know a babies gender? They cannot communicate with you. Even if sex generally predicts gender, it doesn't all the time, so corrections will retroactively need to be made.
other minorities are already protected in the workplace (and there is constitutional backing for this), there is no reason not to extend it to Transgender people
Kayden Thomas
The goal here is not to win, it's to wear you out. Keep that in mind /pol, that will be their primary strategy.
Oliver Foster
*committed
Brandon Rivera
he said rights fucktard. Do you know what a right is? You have a RIGHT to trial by jury. not getting your sexual parts swapped and monthly medication so you can live in your fantasy world.
The employer has the right to discriminate in the workplace you fucking idiot. If i own a business i don't have to hire a tranny as a receptionist if i don't want to. I can LITERALLY TELL YOU TO GO FUCK YOURSELF! The are 2 genders: a man and a women.
IT IS YOU FUCKING MENTALLY TWISTED PEOPLE WHO ARE INFRINGING ON EVERYONE ELSE. You think that you can do whatever you want. You think that a business owner has no rights and fuck what they want/believe. It is you who thinks that the entire FUCKING PLANET needs to embrace your fantasy world and pretend that you are the sex that you aren't. YOU SHOULDN'T GET COVERAGE FOR YOUR SEX CHANGE BULLSHIT AND YOUR HORMONE THERAPY AS YOU ARE IN NO WAY AT RISK OF ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS OTHERWISE. Its like saying "i want a boob job and the government and my insurance company wont pay for it. Im a victim.
For the love of god go fuck yourself.
Jaxson Campbell
You are not born transgender, that's a lovely after-the-sale point. You're literally augmenting your body, not showing it's true nature.
Hudson Nelson
Calm down, they want you excited so you burn yourself out.
David Sanchez
>Because the gender assigned at birth is often wrong?
You are delusion. "Gender" assigned at birth is a physical bodily fact and has to be noted scientifically. If you want to come up with another metric fine, but doctors need to put down whether the kids was born with male or female organs, and they have to be monitored for health related issues associated with it.
These are facts we are talking about. Humans are animals, specifically mamals. Mamals have two genders male and female. This is needed for categorizaiton.
You are trying to put yourself above animals as something beyond facts. I'm sorry, but cock or no cock, you're still a male member of the human animals.
Lincoln Hughes
I wouldn't mind some traps wearing me out.
Jonathan Jenkins
you are confusing sex and gender - those are two different terms
Samuel Hill
Your delusion that there is something other than men and women
Lucas Jones
Fuck off pervert.
Ryder Powell
9 million that could go into better military investments.
looks like an ugly dude with tits, who paid for this thing to go to hawaii?
Zachary Fisher
literally wrong, thats not how money or economics works. If something is scarce or rare, its costly. Are you saying most of America is trans or something?
lets say your fag ass is correct. Ok, then why the fuck should they be covered? 9 million still sounds like a lot to me, nigger. the number of dumbasses who want to cut their dicks or sew up their pussies cant be that large in the military.
Colton Richardson
Women don't want low T males going into their showers, bathrooms, lactation rooms, changing rooms, or prisons. Trannies let into female prisons have raped the women.
Carter Scott
Once you start being "accepting" and "tolerant" it's a fucking floodgate, you can't grant even an inch to these freaks.
I wouldn't have a problem with them if they weren't parading around in the streets in BDSM gear and telling my kid this lifestyle is normal. If they acted like regular people I could really care less, but now I hope they all get gassed
It’s working, to be honest. I just woke up, came onto Jow Forums and my day is already ruined at the knowledge that these nutjobs exist. I saw one recently. It didn’t look like a woman at all. It was a man in a dress. I guess that’s why I’m so annoyed at this thread. It’s a problem that I’ve seen firsthand. I’m not even a muslim but I would consider becoming a muslim to purge these people.
Jonathan Morgan
wew lad, if you are into those types of guys user.
Not to mention the limited training time. Could be learning proper bracing and stitching, instead they're literally taking classes to learn how to accept Pvt. Mark Jones becoming Pvt. Marcie Jones. This is how you lose wars.
Sebastian Cooper
no
Grayson Brown
Why do these things deserve to be rights? Also discrimination is bullshit considering 40% of you faggot tranny kill yourself. Why should I pay for your plastic surgery?
Michael Peterson
If you like discussing traps so much instead of figuring out the reason your country is imploding, why don't you figure out the reason fags become traps? Jewish medicine is full of shit and you can prevent the stuff from happening.
> inb4 *hivemind violation detected*
Hudson Scott
>If something is scarce or rare, its costly. Shit coming exclusively from my asshole is scarce, that doesn't mean it's costly.
Mason Baker
who is this degenerate
Jaxson Sullivan
>9 million still sounds like a lot to me
United States government spends 2.736 Trillion a year. 9 million is pocket change. Literally only 3 cents per person
Jaxson Phillips
Let me get this straight... You think that you have a constitutional right to be a tranny and have special documents labeling you a victim with special protections... Your a fucking idiot... A complete god damn moron.
TRANSGENDER IS NOT A REAL THING YOU FUCKING STUPID PIECES OF SHIT!!! ITS MEN DRESSING UP IN WOMEN'S CLOTHING!!!! YOU LIVE IN A WORLD OF MAKE BELIEVE!!! YOU GET NO SPECIAL PROTECTIONS!!!!
Gavin Reyes
>Also discrimination is bullshit considering it's literally impossible to show as a born condition. literally, there are zero people who need to change genders from male to female. if you're transvestite by birth, by the time you're an adult you're you, and you live as you live. That is not the same as what you're chasing.
Xavier Bennett
Transgenders should be institutionalized.
Tyler Howard
Yeah nah, just because you say gender means something else, doesn't mean it does, ya fuckin loony
Christian Walker
>Trans people equal rights We use to lock up the mentally ill, what more do you fucking want?
Ayden Reyes
Calm your tits, they want you to exhaust yourself.
Hudson Hall
“Lack of coverage for medical procedures”
That’s just common sense, why should other people pay for your elective procedures? Will you pay for my lyposuction and gastric bypass? What about my schlomo (((rhinoplasty)))
Dominic Rivera
if you are trying to discourage me from expressing my views by accusing me of espousing groupthink, that isn't going to work - my views are my own
Lincoln Powell
That burning feeling you get in your gut when you encounter something you utterly despise is something I find very energizing, personally.
100%, the person who believes they are a woman in a man's body etc. is not sane and needs to be kept from self-harm.
Charles Kelly
Maybe I'm missing something. Why does transgender want to change their sex organ? So they can have the sex organ they think matches with their personality? Genuinely confused. (pic .003% relatd)
>No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Were you deprived of any of these? I jerk off to femdom and traps, but I'm not bitching about not being able to put that on my ID, nor is my entire personality revolving around what makes my peepee twitchy and moist.
Low demand, high prices.
Jacob White
am i the only one who can look at this picture and read its facial expressions? its thinking >thats right! can you believe they accept this?
This. The left think they’re arguing for equal rights. They want PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. Do you know why? Because they’re inferior. They have no chance otherwise. Let’s look at the types of people on the left >women >the overweight >the underweight >LGBT degenerates All undesirables. Equal rights would mean they’d never get anywhere in life. They need more than equal rights, which is what they’re fighting for. Fucking disgusting.
Austin Watson
I would rather burn that nine million dollars that give it to you for your bullshit
Hunter Smith
I'd fuck this degenerate and waste to society. What is wrong with me
Blake Rogers
Every serious biologist would acknowledge that sex and gender are different.
If they weren't different - why would we need two different words?
dysphoria is a mild condition of discomfort. literally, it's just saying, I'm not completely comfortable right now. You're making permanent augmentation on a temporary feeling. The people pushing this agenda should be "helped" off the planet. There is nothing good from the people who will perform these procedures and castrate humans for life, to make a buck. Anyone who would push for this is worthy of death, because it is permanent mutilation.
Andrew Powell
Yes, but these lunatics want the right to change on their birth certificate their sex.
So, even if they still have a cock, they want to be able to change the birth certificate to say they are born a girl.
We used to have an answer for this: inquisition.
Lucas Thompson
beause they are trying to change kid's orientation at the age of 6. This is child abuse. They cannot just accept "hey im transgender but this child growing up is a heterosexual, biologically correct organism", they think to themselves "how can i corrupt this pure child with my communist ideology"...
Alexander Clark
Isn’t the post op suicide rate just as high?
Juan Hughes
Too costly, just shoot them and throw them in a dumpster to be picked apart by scavengers like common carrion.
They're utterly sick in the head, don't bother trying to understand them.
Ok, enough talking about this, they want it popularized, they want the youngins to think, "wow, that's rebellion" and they want to make you think about it till you tire out.
