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Israel BTFO by Taiwan
Jaxon Gray
William Smith
taiwan #1
Asher Taylor
checked
North America needs its own nanochip production FOR FUCK SAKES
Aiden Gomez
>5nm
How do these even function?
Ian Edwards
dunno, i thought i read a few years back 7nm was the absolute minimum
Isaiah Brown
quatam tunneling is a meme
Brayden Sullivan
Jews fear the Taiwanese Samurai.
Cameron Watson
Australia does not have a single fab, except maybe one or two with processes from the 80s. We are ruled by boomers who rely on mineral exports, cheap immigrants and the housing bubble.
JUST
Hudson Ross
Looks like Mossad has a new mission.
Landon Flores
First I have heard of anyone starting production on them. This is fake I think. Last I heard ALL of the first 7nm chips are being produced for Apple to be put into next gen smartphones, Then for AI business chips, then video editing, and lastly gaming graphics processors.
Absolutely nothing about any company on the market producing 5nm chips for anyone.
Eli Taylor
4.7nm is the absolute minimum before quantum mechanics gets involved.
5nm is far enough away that it should be stable.
Leo Myers
That fuck nonsense are you blowing out of proportion now?
Kevin Ramirez
Taiwanese are the Chinese that didn't get raped by mongols, because they just paid off the invaders.
John Ortiz
Same way every other device functions.
You read absolutely bullshit popsci nonsense.
Conventional scaling only ends when we start building devices smaller than single atoms would allow. Even then the prospect of quantum junctions is still on the table, using sub atomic particles to perform logic. Things that are white paper material rapidly become working theory, working theories get created in small scale in lab, small scale lab experiments are brought to volume production with pretty high turn over when the market is willing to foot the R&D.
Just stop.
Current leakage is not magic, it doesn't just appear at a given feature size, it is always present, processes are always designed to work around it. Short channel effect is not new.
Levi Barnes
So what happens when we finally do hit the wall?
Multi-chip systems and cooling devices the size of neptune? What are computers going to be like in 2025?
Wyatt Hernandez
That's not true at all
Hudson Powell
>2025
Likely not radically different from anything now. Silicon substrates will probably still be the norm at the bleeding edge. Maybe 3D GAAs will be used for high performance devices, maybe CNT channels.
It'll take quite some time for the logistics to be in place to facilitate the industry moving to a new substrate material entirely.
Benjamin Harris
whiteboi trying to cope
Benjamin Nguyen
So WTF are Nvidia and AMD going to do to one up each other for 5+ years? Since PC gaming has basically destroyed console gaming, the entire industry is now basically captivated with those two companies.
Luke Jones
They are starting production tests in April 2019. Probably actual production a few months after that.
Nicholas Roberts
2050 singularity. You think technology and computers are part of everyday life today? Wait until processors and AI exceed human intelligence.
Cooper Watson
We're not anywhere close to figuring out how general intelligence works.
All the AI buzz we see right now is because of machine learning, which is basically old statistical methods that are now comparatively cheap due to increase in computing power.
It's like saying that, technically, we have all the material we need to build fusion power; we just don't know how to.
Andrew Ward
Last I checked the console market is doing fine, the PS4 has already sold 80mil+ units, Xboner somewhere around 38 million. Shitloads of games sold for each. They're raking in the dough.
Process is only one piece of the puzzle for the semicon giants. If they're selling parts made on the same process as their direct competition then the need to focus on architectural IPC uplift will be even greater. Its business as usual.
Right now AMD's GPU business doesn't look too great though. Unless Navi is an absolute miracle they're probably going to stay behind Nvidia in the benches.
Risk production, not the same as running test wafers.
Risk production is generally super low volume but it is open to clients who are willing to pay. Big companies like Apple, Qualcomm, sometimes Samsung, pay to designs run as soon as possible on new processes.
Kurzweil is a literal snake oil selling kike and there is no singularity.
Bentley White
IBM and the rest are obviously too dumb to figure out how general intelligence works because it doesn't suit them to find out when they make bank selling scam intelligence with an evil fucking smile.
Xavier Perry
>Kurzweil is a literal snake oil selling kike and there is no singularity.
True. A big issue regarding technology development is that we now are running on fumes, because the whole west has moved into consumer / short-term thinking mode. Most of the R&D money is spent by corporations like Google, Intel, etc. but those people don't do any fundamental research. Self-driving cars, etc. build on the results of fundamental research from the 60s, 70s, financed by DARPA, DOD, etc.
That pipeline will soon dry out.
Carson Gonzalez
Private corporations cannot capture returns from investment in fundamental research. That is, they could spend billions and billions, but once they find something, others will soon start doing the same thing.
So fundamental research has to be funded by the government, or non-profits like universities, where the return is measured differently than dollars (military power, prestige, etc.)
Ryder Allen
The PS4 and XBone are gimped PCs with PC-style games. They're not consoles anymore than one of those old Compaq or Gateway models from the early 2000s were.
Isaac Walker
IBM has made a few different architectures specifically for DARPA programs that simulate the way the brain works. Two that have been publicly disclosed so far.
They've also been simulated entire brain regions, working their way up to simulating a full brain, to see if there is any emergent property as a sum of all the various regions communicating.
Something close to the scifi concept of AI is probably real. What people colloquially call AI though is all bullshit. Its a marketing term, like "the cloud."
People get completely hung up on the term because of shills like Kurzweil who sell the idea of a conscious machine. A computer doesn't need to have any sort of consciousness to perform the roles that people would assign to it.
DARPA projects are alive and well, but they tend to not ever leave government labs. When they do get declassified its generally because they hit a dead end.
The consumer market is proportionally pumping absurd amounts of money into certain areas but that isn't taking away from others either.
Consoles were always PCs. Having exotic hardware didn't make them better. Being semi-custom X86 parts from AMD doesn't make them any less of a console.
Ian Bell
>Consoles were always PCs. Having exotic hardware didn't make them better. Being semi-custom X86 parts from AMD doesn't make them any less of a console.
The internals don't matter too much. I play PC games and I fell for the console meme (Switch) because sometimes it's good not to have to bother. Except that: when you insert the game cartridge you now have to download a fucking 2GB update, you also have console OS updates, you need fucking accounts, etc.
I want a modern console where I insert the game, it starts immediately, then I press start and can play without updating or logging into shit.
Carter Hernandez
We could always go back to the scheme of having the OS in hardware, even on the cartridge itself. Turn on the power and the game is instantly on. No installing, no downloading.
Publishers putting deadlines on developers means they rush things out, release cobbled together bug fixes, and shit like that.
Its the business model directing the market. Consumers generally don't care. The average normie's capacity to eat shit is pretty high.
Isaac Wilson
>Consoles were always PCs. Having exotic hardware didn't make them better.
It was never really "console vs. PC". It was arcade vs. PC. And arcade-style gaming is hard to find on modern systems. A recent awesome example is The Messenger. But back in the day, consoles strove to bring the arcade experience home. That and provide great story-driven RPGs. Now everything is muddy because games are basically perfected. There's nowhere else to go. There is no more striving to bring the arcade experience home because modern computers destroy arcade-level games in terms of tech.
This is also why modern games are so lifeless usually. And don't even get me started on the blight known as minimalism.Modern web browsers have the bare-bones in features but eat up tons of RAM. Pajeet codes for shit apparently.
Carson Gonzalez
But they raped the natives.
They are the slanty eyed version of the mutt.
Liam Moore
On top of that Nintendo makes the whole experience even more annoying because they design their games for retards with unskippable intro, tutorial, and dialogue. More so than other console games and definitely more than PC games.
Ethan Anderson
Lmao tough talk for a Dutchboi who couldn't even hold Taiwan when it was barely inhabited.. Really makes u dink eh mr vanderbeek
#remember1661
As for current Taiwanese, they're mostly Fujian stock with some native Formosan genes. Current ""president"" is like 1/8 native formosan 7/8 Chinese. Natives are very similar phenotypically to the Okinawans of Japan for obvious reasons.