Since we're all redpilled here we know Marijuana isn't as safe as the liberal media tries to make it seem. Smoking weed even in small amounts can induce Disassociate Disorder where a person is stuck in psychotic state for 24 hours or even longer some people have reported being stuck for months or even years.
hallucinations, extreme disconnections from reality etc.
>Transient episodes of depersonalization or derealization have been known to occur across a broad range of psychiatric disorders, including schizophrenia
>among a subgroup of persons who use cannabis, symptoms of depersonalization or derealization persist for weeks, months, or years (3, 5), even after discontinuation of the substance (2, 11). Those who experience prolonged symptoms may have cannabis-induced depersonalization-derealization disorder (2, 10).
The media wants you to think marijuana is a safe drug but it can really fuck your brain up permanetly. Read about the people who are stuck in a depersonilized state after smoking weed just once. There are people out there who never recover.
not an argument. And the pharmaceutical industry is garbage. I have no agenda here
Connor Garcia
So by the same logic we should start banning things based on potential harm? What about fast food? Obesity is a leading cause of preventable death in this country. Ban McDonalds?
Anything else you'd like to decide about how I live my life?
Owen Miller
Look into depersonalization induced by marijuana. thousands of people suffer from this and i have seen it happen to people first hand. save your minds Jow Forums
Jose Jackson
you want your brain fucked up permanently where you're a shell of your former self? It's the responsibility of the authorities to ban harmful substances.
Carson Adams
Yep. I would rather see a a bunch of stoned freaked out people smoking weed and cigarettes than these fat freaks waddling around the planet.
Michael Howard
I need the gubbermint to tell me what to do. Faggot.
>smoke weed >play an instrument >advance faster >practice shit you figured out while doped when you sober up >be amazed at how little you were affected by the weed negatively >drink a beer >bask if you smoke it way too often you're going to become a fucking idiot, but it does serve a purpose.
Jaxson Mitchell
Pharma Shrill Confirmed?
Joshua Lewis
> All the research subjects took batteries of intelligence, attention, learning, and memory tests on days zero, one, seven, and 28 after quitting the drug. On days zero, one and seven, current heavy smokers scored significantly lower than the other groups on memory tests. “By day 28, however, there were no significant differences among the groups on any of 10 different tests, and no significant association between cumulative lifetime marijuana use and test scores,” Pope says. The researchers concluded that heavy marijuana use produces no irreversible mental deficits. But they cannot say for sure why pot smokers remain impaired for days or weeks after giving up the drug.
I don't need big brother control every aspect of my life, what I decide to put into my body or not is none of their concern.
Connor Sanchez
Depersonalization is a weak angle, because it happens to almost nobody.
How about it wastes your money, gradually wrecks your lungs, and eventually makes you stop caring about anything but weed.
Christian Harris
I've been smoking weed for 16 years. The only thing I've dissociated with is a couple bucks.
Chase Murphy
Weed is not good for you.
Peak performance comes from sobriety, eating healthy and excercise.
Peak performance does not come from taking bong rips
Dominic Reed
>amerifat shits on weed >religiously eats McDicks are you one of those people who get off on telling people you're straight edge?
Lincoln Barnes
That's what the pro-marijuana lobby wants you to believe. depersonalization from marijuana is more common than it is reported.
Lincoln Hernandez
i don't eat Mcdonalds you leaf faggot
Noah Torres
I smoke weed almost every day and have dramatically improved in every area of my life since I started.
The real redpill is that pharmaceutical companies have tried to prevent marijuana legalisation since the 40’s.
Nice try.
Benjamin Ortiz
>Peak performance comes from sobriety, eating healthy and excercise.
I'm telling you from real life experience. Weed is bad, but not for the obscure reason you listed.
Adrian Gomez
>Read about the people who are stuck in a depersonilized state after smoking weed just once. There are people out there who never recover. They probably never had a personality to begin with.
Wastes money is a good one, but I'd literally spend it on something dumb if it wasn't cannabis. I manage my money decently and only allow so much of it to be spent on frivolous things, cannabis is one of those frivolous things I enjoy.
>gradually wrecks your lungs Pic related, I don't inhale burning plant material.
>and eventually makes you stop caring about anything but weed.
Nah I've been smoking for a long time now and have plenty of interests and hobbies that aren't cannabis related or dependent.
i basically have to smoke weed to calm me down because im surrounded on all sides by niggers and specs. WTF am i suppose to do suck their dicks or something fuck OP
how is it obscure when it is reported and documented in medical journals? marijuana has many negatives and depersonalization is a legitimate one of them. people dont talk about it. they just say they had a bad "trip" it happens very often. people report feeling high years after taking one rip or drag whatever these faggots call it
Leo Gomez
Dabs don't ever make ya choke?
Chase Price
fuck off OP fag, jfc. pot means nothing as long as the opiod crisis exists, or alcoholism. fuckin jackass
Liam Powell
>wrecks your lung >weed cures lung cancer? which one is it and btw weed is a remedy for most cancers so how does that work?
Jace Lee
>smoek weedz everydai 420 blaze it :^) degenerate behavior
Cameron Cooper
youre literally just saying memes are bad. fuck off you kike
Jayden Baker
if you want the good shit, you fucking buy cocaine. especially if you want to get shit DONE
Parker Fisher
>Disassociate Disorder where a person is stuck in psychotic state for 24 hours or even longer some people have reported being stuck for months or even years.
they must be mental weaklings if weed can do this.
Aaron Roberts
Weed is not a dissociative. You don't know what you are talking about.
Brandon Clark
you one of those faggots with dreads? kek. go to rehab you're addicted to a DRUG
William Perry
Nope, I hardly ever even cough from them. Low temp dabs on a quartz banger
Stop saying it cures shit, it CAN cause apoptosis in certain cancerous cells, but it's by no means a cure. It has the potential to induce programmed cell death in cells who otherwise have forgotten how to die =/= it cures cancer.
Frankly bro, this is the most misinformed and hilarious post I've ever seen.
Angel Nguyen
Literally smoking weed right now as I sage this shit-dick faggot thread.
Luke Hall
>i know more than medical doctors know it all faggot. >Depersonalization occurs when a person has experiences of being detached, feeling as if they are outside of their body, has experiences of being unreal, experiences a distorted sense of time, etc. According to the American Psychiatric Association (APA) depersonalization/derealization disorder is a dissociative disorder that consists of either feelings of depersonalization or derealization (thoughts that other things are not real), but the person’s reality testing remains intact. The symptoms the disorder cause significant distress or dysfunction, and the symptoms are not attributable to the effects of drug abuse, being on a medication (or an illicit drug), or a result of some other medical condition. oxfordtreatment.com/marijuana/depersonalization/
Ethan Ward
I'm just saying it's a weak argument, it's so rare, and since it's so rare, people will ignore it.
Focus on something that happens to everyone, like that it's a habit-forming waste of money that makes it hard to get a decent job.
There are actual reasons most people shouldn't smoke weed, and you focus on something that happens to a small percentage of people with pre-existing mental issues. It's not relatable, you won't get traction.
Evan Cox
ya but its not fucking up your lungs like smoking cigs you retard the worst youre going to get is bronchitis
Gabriel Morales
TROLL THREAD. CANNABIS CURES CANCER
Jack Harris
you faggot socialist wont stop us farmers from holding onto our God given rights. kill yourselves you fucking faggots.
It inflames lung tissue, exacerbates asthma, and increases rates of bronchitis. There are more respiratory ailments than just cancer.
Caleb White
I've had derealization since I first got stoned, but I want legalization of all drugs.
I'm not sure why potheads deny that derealization exists though. Pretty stupid if you ask me.
Ayden White
>There are reports of marijuana producing depersonalization in some individuals. Most often, this can occur when the person mixes marijuana with some other substance, such as alcohol, cocaine, an opioid drug, etc. The depersonalization that occurs as a result of marijuana use typically resolves rapidly once the effects of the drug wear off. It may or may not result in significant distress, depending on the circumstances and the individual’s emotional makeup. However, as stated above, there appear to be no lasting dissociative or psychotic effects that were not present prior to the use of marijuana in individuals who use the drug.
From your same link. I'm gonna quote a massive faggot here real quick.
>you want your brain fucked up permanently >The depersonalization that occurs as a result of marijuana use typically resolves rapidly once the effects of the drug wear off.
Sebastian Clark
I do know more. I have smoked it for years. These faggot "doctors" have probably never even smoked it. Never in my life has weed given me a similar feeling to ketamine or DXM. Blow it out your ass kike. Out of body experience? Feeling of being disconnected from ones self? Give me a break. These people are smoking some laced shit if that's the case.
>I am a 19 year old male and recently developed Marijuana induced derealization. I have been sober for 3 weeks but the feelings are still here.
>It lasted 9 months for me.
> had it where it lasted for awhile but I'd have days when I was perfectly fine and other days where it would happen frequently and last awhile
>I don't think it'll ever fully go.
>I'm 14 and had it for a yearish now along with visual snow and depersonification.
>honestly, iv had it for a year and a half, and still have it, c
Brody Moore
OP is right. Why smoke weed to help you sleep when big pharma has so many options for you to try. Get those chemicals in ya guys, its good for you
Jason Phillips
THC is a chemical you faggot
Isaiah Carter
Wait, your telling me inhaling smoke is bad for people with asthma? Wow I'm shocked.
Joseph Nelson
I kek'd
Oliver Gray
Astonishing right? You'll be tripped out to learn it can even give healthy people asthma.
Easton Nguyen
see this post
Brayden Williams
Wow I never knew people could be so weak.
Leo Jones
I am willing to guarantee these people already have dormant psychosis or a genetic history of psychosis. Either that, or again, these people have been smoking some laced shit. At worst weed kills your motivation but even then that's usually only people who are lazy in the first place.
Hudson Gonzalez
Wow, the guy reports still not feeling normal eight months after quitting multiple substances including cannabis.
Henry Jenkins
most people who go through this dont talk about it because faggots like you are in denial
Evan Wright
>Most often, this can occur when the person mixes marijuana with some other substance, such as alcohol, cocaine, an opioid drug, etc >The depersonalization that occurs as a result of marijuana use typically resolves rapidly once the effects of the drug wear off. > there appear to be no lasting dissociative or psychotic effects that were not present prior to the use of marijuana in individuals who use the drug.
Literally from a link you fucking provided.
Luis Green
It's almost like he just has mental issues to begin with! No way!
Ryan Thompson
Dude, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying your argument is not persuasive to most people.
What percentage of people experience depersonalization?
Joshua Price
No, lol no it can't.
Nathan Lopez
Most people don't talk about it because it doesn't happen you retard.
Noah Reyes
I've also had dp/dr from psychedelics. I think it's reckless how people call those drugs safe, but I also think they should be legal. If only pharmacies could sell it and had to inform the customers of such dangers that would improve this situation.
I don't think all drugs should be legal necessarily, but I think the issue should be approached pragmatically. For example, there are places where weed is legal and they haven't descended into chaos so there's no good reason to restrict people's freedom, but for other drugs this may not be the case/has yet to be shown (e.g., chinese opioid crisis)
Jayden Moore
You don't know, and you assume incorrectly.
Kevin Gomez
Frankly, I hope they die. The human race wound be better off without those weaklings who can't handle a drug that has such a small impact on daily life.
Nathan White
I smoke one weed last night and could see myself sitting on the couch and started cutting pieces of my skin off.
Alexander Gomez
>Either that, or again, these people have been smoking some laced shit. That's always the goto for potheads. That argument does not work when someone grows it themselves.
But nah I guess weed is infallible.
Interestingly I've never had DR from psychedelics. I imagine I would if I had a panic attack. Weed always gives me DR though, always. And I always have this low-grade feeling of unreality even if I have not smoked for years.
Cameron Jenkins
Kek, shouldn't have smoked the whole weed in one sitting.
Ryder Hill
I smoke weed endlessly, tis just like cigarettes for me, it calms my hyperactivity, I use it as a soothing medication. There are side-effects such as a paranoia and over-emotionality but if you have a strong mind, these things do not bother you. I see many people however that are too weak mentally to smoke though, they just become sofa potatoes or babbling idiots. Like everything else, it depends on the person. Some few people who have an innate problem which the weed exacerbates, can become extremely lost mentally but only because they already had a problem, weed doesn't cause it, just inflames it.
honestly i'd say that 40% of weed smokers will in their lifetime experience depersonalization.
Charles Brown
>depersonalization This is actually what happened to me. I never smoked weed until my senior year of high school, when some guy I worked with talked me into getting stoned one day. I was really into it for about a summer, then one night I remember getting way too high and suddenly feeling very uncomfortable. It was a really weird feeling, hard to describe, it was sort of like I wasn't myself, I was some kind of presence floating behind myself but still looking out at the world through my body's eyes. It was absolutely awful and I just wanted the high to wear off. I stopped smoking after that, but I would still have intermittent episodes of the same feeling for years afterward, and a handful of times when I smoked it again I always had the same feeling. I've spoken to people who have reported something similar.
James Allen
You are one weak panse boy motherfucker lol.
Tyler Wilson
The reason it's the go to is because this shit doesn't happen with pure weed. You guys are already mentally deficient or smoking laced weed. I suppose you're going to tell me about marijuana induced vomiting next?
Zachary Flores
>i'd say that 40% You'd say? Or the study says? Are you just guessing? Have you ever smoked weed?
Ryan King
What part of your rectal cavity did that statistic come from dick head?
Leo Cox
yup i know people who had an episode similar to this who say 3 years after that episode they randomly feel high without having smoked it after 3 years
Daniel Robinson
>grow it yourself >dude laced weed dey gots dat PCP in there
Jack Walker
He's obviously a 75 year old trad con.
Carter Ross
The people you know are liars.
Aaron Walker
I don't know why you're using the grow I yourself argument. I don't care about your personal anecdotal evidence.
Liam Murphy
Only NPCs use drugs.
Hudson Reed
Studies show that 1% to 2% of weed smokers will have these episodes but i dont people who go through it report it out of stigma.. faggots say are always like "muh wede is saef drug :^)"
Julian Myers
I'm a teahead.
That said, why on earth do you need Big Brother to tell you what is or isn't harmful? Pot is being used to treat autism. You should try it some time. It might make you tolerable to other people.
Owen Thomas
So for all you faggots, what the hell is being stoned like for you? Because for me it's like I'm in a dream.
Zachary Peterson
I also used to not get it until one particularly extreme bad experience with a high dose of DMT.
I get it from weed too (actually I would consider weed a psychedelic) but also only after I'd had my first panic attack.
Juan Kelly
so why don't they ban coca cola, coffee, energy drinks, mcdonalds, alcohol, tobacco, SSRI drugs, television, chewing gums with aspartam or sugar?? you are so full of shit kike...
ITT: People with schizophrenia, borderline personality disorder, and dissociative disorders telling everyone else that weed is the cause for their mental illness so they can feel good about themselves.
Tyler Parker
I'd ask for a citation but even your own links don't corroberate the garbage you're spewing.
>there appear to be no lasting dissociative or psychotic effects that were not present prior to the use of marijuana in individuals who use the drug.
Trust me, focus on something that happens to everyone.
The 1% of people that have a bad time don't need you to tell them to not smoke weed, they will voluntarily not smoke weed.
And for the 99% of people it doesn't happen to... your argument is irrelevant to them.
Anthony Baker
I forgot, its normal for me at this point.
Gavin Gutierrez
I had this after lsd for months and cant smoke weed either, massive depesonalisation, anxiety, and feeling so mentally out of it.
Jacob Stewart
its under reported. its more than 1 percent
Grayson Bell
>be someone who doesn't like pot >probably still butthurt the hippy chick in highschool dumped them >think its oke to infringe upon the sovereignty others cause reasons >celebrate trampling on the rights of other people with a beer
Julian Murphy
I just feel euphoric and maximum comfy. I guess if I smoke so much in one sitting I begin feeling tired. I wouldn't say I ever feel dissociated from it. How many if I claiming dissociation have actually tried dissociatives? I am willing to bet none of you. Dissociation doesn't happen on weed. Feeling dreamy isn't dissociation.
Carter Carter
>wastes your money Here in WA state I just bought THREE OUNCES of sticky icky for a grand total of $145
Someone who smokes twice a day would make that last 4-6 months. Very inexpensive
Christopher Cooper
it's funny how some people thinks weed is bad, because chronic stoners talk slower, while people drinking alcohol with similar frequency usually sleep on the streets in shitted and peed pants and have trouble speaking words at all, not to mention full sentences
Connor Jones
I had a friend to who took 2 weeds at once to impress the girls at a party. Next morning he woke up dead