How do I go about unionizing my company?

I was approached by the union and offered a job. They had been trying to organize me for several years.
I have friends in other industries who organized their shops, and they were also in a specialized job like you. One was fired, the company squashed the organizing vote with threats. The union got her a good job in a plant nearby, and got her representation who made her rich suing her former employer.

Fuck you. Unions are fucking garbage and you should feel like literal trash for even thinking about forming one.

faggot.

>IBEW wages allowed me to get back in school and get a degree, afford 2 houses, and start a family. I'll never understand why the rats talk shit about making more money and getting treated better.
how does being a completely unamerica faggot sound? because that's what you are.
>That’s the part I’m scared about. I know we deserve more, everyone agrees
literally kys
faggot
fucking douche

>employees getting a fair share of the profits is unamerican.

Kill yourself nigger. The founders didn't support wage slavery.

I will add that we know it's fair because the employer pays it. They always have the choice to find other employees.

>Kill yourself nigger. The founders didn't support wage slavery.
kill yourself you utter fucking retard. You don't deserve a fucking "fair share" of the profits. God fucking dammit you're such a fucking faggot. Go start your own business. Take all the profits. Work hard.

And you always have the choice to find other work, you fucking douche.

Wow those are some great arguments. I'm sold. I'll quit my union job and go work at McDonald's tomorrow!

my group wanted to unionize so they brought in a big national one. I looked at there politics and voted no. Voting yes for a Union is worse than voting for a democrat because you will actually be funding them.

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>I’m scared of being fired

To unionize you need to prepare for human sacrifices.

Even if you do pull it off, you'll have a target on your back forever. Management will mark you up with frivolous infractions to the point of constantly firing you. You'll get your job back though, because between the union lawyer and the company lawyer they'll see there was nothing to fire you for, and you'll get your job back, and all the missing wages. But then what happens is they look at you more closely where the moment you step outside of your agreement, they'll fist you hard, up to the elbow, because they can......

BUT, the pay off will be fair pay and fair work/life balance for everyone else.

So the question really is, ARE you willing to "die" (over and over again) for your beliefs?

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Entitled retards thinking they own a company they didnt create is the reason illegals get jobs

>I'll quit my union job and go work
Finally! A good idea!

I honestly can’t figure out why people get so butthurt about unions. Mad business owner that you have to pay decent wages?
>why can’t I pay slave wages like those factories in China! Entitled bastards!
Or jealous you are in a job that isn’t union and pays shit? What other reason is there. I am not in one, but I make good money. Good for them, they negotiated a good salary for themselves. What’s the problem

>Good for them, they negotiated a good salary for themselves. What’s the problem
>all unions do is negotiate wages
lol. you're like an enabler to a drug addict. "Sure bud I'll go help you buy heroin!" Fucking kys. Just you wanting to be associated with an utter retard incapable of negotiating his own wage is utterly embarrassing and you should want to off yourself.

It probably wouldn't hurt to somehow establish that your workers, because of their skill, are indispensable, because, if whatever number of people can just walk on and do what you do if you have to strike, you're not going to be holding many cards.

If he's that terrible, organize, save your money as a group, and start your own business. Threatening other people's business? Just lazy.

The only reason any union forms in any industry whatsoever is because they realize their skills are entirely disposable. That's entirely why unions form. Every single one can be totally and completely replaced by utter morons and do whatever any union job does. Every. Single. One.

Seriously dude why are you so butthurt about unions. Did you get raped by a gang of teamsters or something. What’s the deal you can tell me

Nonsense. I can only speak for myself, and my field, but if we were to all be organized tomorrow and agree to stop work they would be fucked. It’s a technical field with highly specialized knowledge, and not a giant demand of prospective employees

Neocons, lol

The best part of the IBEW is going to the competition and cutting only the neutral wires. When you watch hard-working people lose everything they have had, you know it was the right choice because it confirms you are a fucking kike faggot nigger

>work against your own economic interest!

Americans are brainwashed

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>guarantee
no union can guarantee such a thing.
first things you should ask yourself:
- is the company truly faring well?
- are you all treated like shit or just the retards (while not all, many wannabe unionists are trash and should be sacked)
- is the union you'd adhere/constitute politically aligned? (read: are you a filthy leftist joining a politicized union, or an actual worker union (ie: not leftist))
noone force you to work for this person.
or to ask for a given wage if you think your work is worth a specific amount.
your problem is either you suck at your job or too much competition for your job.
first, don't vote for people that import pedros and juanitos who will do the same job for half the wage.
second, use your fucking brain if you still have one instead of being a crybaby.

now, the good news is that due to lower unemployment in the US (and if it keeps going that way, and immigration is further reduced or even better reversed), there would be a worker shortage, which force employers to start outbidding one another with wage increases.

You’re delusional. Private non-union and anti-union companies hire union tradesman because we’re the ones who get it done. Spew all the bullshit you like, I’ve been doing this a long time and seen my share of fuckheads like you come and go. Same shit out of a different asshole.

Bahahahaha, as a business owner, I'd shut the doors and lay everyone off. Then reopen under a new LLC or Corp. Union faggots can suck a dick

I tried to unionize an auto plant, I have a little insight. It's a ton of work. You have to not only convince a vast majority of your co-workers to accept, but also help them to weather all the bullshit and lies your company will put them through. The moment they catch wind that you're looking at unionizing, they'll hire a consultant to fuck with all of you in an attempt to sow discord and blame you for trying to organize. Union-busting is a multi-billion dollar industry and the laws have been on the company's side since the 1950s. And if you have a multicultural workforce, you might as well forget it, niggers will actively oppose you because unions are considered "white" and Mexican workers won't be able to pick up on the nuances of the union debate because their English sucks. Companies exploit Mexicans having shit English by bringing in a bilingual manager to tell them that unions take the info on their union cards and send it to ICE, because again, unions are "white."

That union leadership signs off on multiculti faggotry while multiculturalism is killing them just blows my mind. That's another thing, if the union your guys are joining is anything like the UAW, the people running things are control freaks that are ideologically stuck in the 1970s. The hall I went to had a framed picture of Hubert Humphrey in it. They ended up bungling our organization and I got fired for some bullshit. Now I build office furniture.

>I’m scared of being fired
You should be, they're going to make shit up to force you out the door and all the union can offer you is a chance to get your job back if you get your union AND you win your case with the NLRB.

That's not true at all, union workers are lazy as general rule. The IBEW tends not to be, but the rest are absolute garbage and should be hung with commies

>Nonsense. I can only speak for myself, and my field, but if we were to all be organized tomorrow and agree to stop work they would be fucked. It’s a technical field with highly specialized knowledge, and not a giant demand of prospective employees
>of course, doesn't list the field
>"it's highly technical, trust me"
lol. bullshit.
>Neocons, lol
not at all. just not a total retard. lol.
the fact that you're not proves you're an utter fucking moron.

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is that the load of bullshit your dad told you because he was a commie?

>letting your employer kike you over cause of "muh market"
baguettes are retarded

I’ve only cleaned up the competitor’s messes. Sometimes on their bond after they get run off for fucking up their own job. I’ve never done or seen sabotage on a job, and would file charges on any union member I saw doing it.

Do it bro unions are great for situations like yours

Jow Forums what can an employer do to prevent unionization?

Go for it and good fucking luck ever actually getting a job with any independence ever fucking again. Serves you fucking right for tying your entire life to someone else's political agenda, fucking moron.

Bitch, the company owner pays far more than the union can get, to piss in your conduit. Unions are dead for a reason, dont ne an idiot and end up dead too

In my state they have to shut down the company for at least 6 months and then open up under another name.

Hire gangs to knock them off silently and harass their family.

>implying unions don't do that exact same thing

Why don't they deserve a fair share of the profits?

>Why don't they deserve a fair share of the profits?
Why do they deserve a fair share of the profits? And further, what do you consider a "fair share" of the profits?

If they want a fair share why don't they hold a fair share of the risk? Pool their money, take a few haircuts for a couple months, and start their own firm? If they're that necessary they should corner the market in their town in no time.
And if they can't, because they can't trust each other, then why should the owner pay them more and not have money on hand to pay down a contract or hire a new employee if they walk out? He can't trust them either, can he?

Literal paid corporate interest groups shilling on here

>don't organize!
>don't work for your own economic incentive!
>fight against unions so you can get low balled on your wages and benefits!
Lol your country is so crazy

>I’m scared of being fired, but we deserve more
Call the appropriate union hall and have them come by and meet people at the entrance to your employment. They will stand on public property and hand out fliers.

I disagree, you should organize if you want money. Start a Cooperative Corporation, give everyone class A shares based on their input and start a competing business. Put this evil boss out of business AND make the market see what real "X" is all about. Be the professionals you always dreamed and shake the world with your innovations.

Dear God user.... wut r u thinking. I have been in unions. I was a Longshoresman years ago. They were a great union. I have been in other unions, 3 maybe 4. The Longshoresman was a great union... Are you catching what im saying?

if not, TLDR out of maybe 5 unions, 1 is worth being in.

If you can't trust your co-workers to start a new business with, then you can't trust them in a union either. They will shit on your production levels and bankrupt the business and you'll all be out of work.

Or workers can just take their fare share by organizing and Mr. Goldberg will have to settle for 1 less Ferrari this month.

They're either NPCs, corporate bootlickers, mid-management, or kikes
Trying to reach NPCs when you're organizing will drive you to drinking, there's just no getting through to them

Why don't you go cut off some heads, french faggot? It's Thursday, don't you have a fucking protest to be at?

Those are on Tuesdays, that's why we don't even have to work 35 hours a week and get 7 weeks of vacation each year. Maybe you should try it sometime then you wouldn't be so wound up from working so much.

>They will stand on public property and hand out fliers.
I mean that sounds dumb as fuck. I’d like our employer to actually be scared of us and get more money for breaking our backs

You don't know the business, or the owner's choices on salary, and most firms aren't much more than a couple of months, if not weeks, from shuttered. Cash on hand is rare, most of these operate on loans. People like to use this as a threat, but what it really means is everyone loses all their pay.
The way it is right now, the boss has to decide what each employee is worth by output and by contract income. If "the union" decides everyone is worth the same amount, though they don't do the same work?

lol. The irony of a union faggot calling someone else an NPC is...rich.
>hurr durr I can't think for myself, negotiate for myself, decide if I want to work harder, make more money, hurr durr just pay me more because hurr durr I deserve it and you make more money than me hurr durr i'm literally retarded and scared of making my own way in the world hurr durr!!!

That does scare the employer, the moment they realize you guys are looking at organizing they'll panic HARD. Those flyers are a statement to them as much as your co-workers.

What's wrong trust baby? Scared you are going to have to pay workers fair share for their contribution to your dad's company?

The bigger question is why don't you just combine your own savings and open a competing business. If you're that worthy, why not?

I mean maybe. While everybody was talking I googled my local union and apparently my industry has a representative, so I’ll give him a call in the morning. I have no idea how this thread is still going, DON’T YOU PEOPLE HAVE JOBS??

>What's wrong trust baby? Scared you are going to have to pay workers fair share for their contribution to your dad's company?
come on robespierre, explain what your definition of fair share is? this outta be good. let's hear it, jacobin faggot.

This all comes up in negotiation and most places have raises based on seniority rather than performance. If they do have performance raises, they're modest at best, maybe .25 to .50 a year. The thing is about performance raises is it could have less to do with your performance and more to do with how much your boss likes you.
Unions negotiate to have wages strictly by seniority. The guy that's there longer makes more. That's it, no BS. And when negotiations start, the negotiators get to see in the company's books, mainly to make sure what they can get, but also to see if they might have to give a little to keep the company solvent. It doesn't benefit a union for a plant to close.

Fuck off kike

See, most of you "unionizers" are not only not interested in innovating, you're not really interested in being at the top of your field. If you were, you'd open your own shop, instead of putting threat against someone else's. You want to prove you're worthy? Make a boat load of cash that "management" is "stealing"? All of this is available if you save your money and cooprative. You'll be your own bosses, decide your own wages and your own standards. You'll be able to correct that stupid step that the boss makes you do right now, and you'll share equally in the great returns.
And if you're right, the bosses take way too much, you'll not only make more, you'll be stinking rich when you sell your shares at retirement.

>just make your own Amazon goy
Fuck off kike

>While everybody was talking I googled my local union and apparently my industry has a representative, so I’ll give him a call in the morning.
The beginning of the end of you as an American. Make that call and you might as well give up your God given right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Make that call and remember this comment. Never forget you will regret it the rest of your life. The second you dial that number you are not an American.

LOL Scared children looking to parasite off someone else while complaining the host doesn't eat enough! Comedy gold, except you're really a poor picture of a half human.

Nah, fuck YOU kike. Sit hear and pretend you're not a kike. lol.

Not everyone can be a CEO or business creator. There has to be workers and those workers should receive a fair share. It's very simple concept to understand.

>Unions are bad because they take away your "ability" to negotiate your own wage
>Also complains that workers are entitled to too much money

Lol you can see how easily they mix their narrative

>Not everyone can be a CEO or business creator. There has to be workers and those workers should receive a fair share. It's very simple concept to understand.
Never said everyone has what it takes, and yet he STILL hasn't answered what EXACTLY is that fair share. Because he doesn't know. Because he's a stupid french faggot and forever will be. Don't be like the french faggots, kids.

>people that want better pay, better insurance and better safety are parasites

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See, I'm offering YOU the chance to be the guy who retires with the golden parachute. And that scares you so much you're literally screaming at me that I'm just here to subvert your dream.
So you're stupid and you can't run your own business? Well, maybe you should be thankful you have a job and take some night classes to cover those skills you suck at. Maybe you should stick around for a few more months till you can save the cash as a group.
But if the guy really is that bad, I don't feel bad for him losing all his good employees to the best competitor he's ever going to see, your collective new cooperative that shuts his overpriced ass out of the market.
You don't know me, brainlet, I don't like crooks of any flavor. Now come out of the corner, look around and make a life, instead of blaming everyone else for their success.

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>people unwilling to work harder for better pay, better insurance, and better safety or work on their own for better pay, better insurance, and their own safety are not parasites
hurr durr!!!

I used to be a teamster. Worst fucking union to be a part of. At least as far as my local hall goes.

Unions have their purpose, but most of the time they’re just a democrat donation scheme these days.

Hey buddy, I love my job! 100/0 right?

>Not everyone can be a CEO or business creator. There has to be workers and those workers should receive a fair share.
Yea, but according to your theory, the CEO doesn't actually know his business, and you can say that as... a worker who can't be a CEO? Garbage logic there friend. Which one is it? The union knows their fair wages but doesn't know the business? Or the union does know their business and could compete, but wants to keep the risks on someone else?

The bad news is that it takes some research to figure out which union would represent you. The good news is that you can't be fired for talking about unionizing with your co-workers or contacting the AFL-CIO. So the best thing to do is talk to your co-workers, see if they want to unionize, and then talk to someone from the AFL-CIO so that they can point you in the right direction. lexisnexis.com/legalnewsroom/labor-employment/b/labor-employment-top-blogs/posts/is-it-time-to-start-a-union-at-your-workplace

Who builds our tanks, planes, ships, missiles, embassies, bridges, power plants? American union members.

No wonder we're 21Trillion in debt and stuck with half-working "next-gen" tech.

The Union is people organizing in a realistic manner with each other to leverage their collective labor to their own economic benefit.

I made a thread just for you:

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"realistic manner" is words a CEO would understand for his industry, or isn't it? You are falling onto your rhetoric, you're not really answering the flaw in your logic.

>Who builds our tanks, planes, ships, missiles, embassies, bridges, power plants? American union members.
>legitimately thinking this helps your argument
lol fucking kys you fucking retard

If you want to join that mafia, you'll have to kill Seth Rich, to prove youre worthy.

Just bait them into paying for your education and then leave because you can now make 3 times as much in the private sector by not being a lazy asshole. That's how it works in right to work states anyway

>electrical company unionized
>techs make almost twice as much as I currently do
>cheap as fuck electricity
>they are a publicly traded company
>stock doing great prospects great

Yea... being an electrician sucks ass if you dont have an in. Trades are not fucking worth it without organizing labor.

There is no flaw in the logic. Unions exist and corporations hate them because the unions work to leverage economic benefit for their members better than they would have received otherwise.

Yea, you're either a union thug, or a braindead idiot if you can't see how glaring the contradiction. If you want your boys to make more money, have them save up and open a competing shop. If they can't, they probably shouldn't talk about organizing, they should be talking about getting the boss to fire the losers who won't carry their weight. All that money you think is being stolen, it could be yours, but you insist on hiring muscle to threaten someone else for a few pennies an hour, since most of your wage raise will go to the union thugs.

Dumber than fuck, drive a truck

be careful. some dude working on 1000 ways to die tried to rally people to unionize and they just said fuck it and shut the whole thing down. everyone lost their jobs because of one asshole.

No thanks I would rather steal yours purely on principle.

> stick your tongue further up your bosses ass and maybe he will give you a raise!

Nah, im either getting my fairshare or ditching my shithole job the second I get a better offer.