How to Talk Someone Out of White Nationalism

Dude nice he got a jewfu lucky guy

Not even Stormfront does the "Slavs and Irish aren't white" schtick.

pretty much

it ain't easy being famously associated with that

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>I think a lot of people know intuitively that white nationalism is a very flawed ideology but aren't armed with the knowledge to actually be able to argue why.
kek, fucking npcs
>I know it's wrong but I can't explain way

>I think a lot of people know intuitively that white nationalism is a very flawed ideology but aren't armed with the knowledge to actually be able to argue why.
Already they make this Freudian assumption without any evidence and from there the whole premise falls apart.

Jow Forums used to be libertarian and used to call racists stormfags because we thought they were trying to push us into KKK territory, but eventually the world pushed us all the way into SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger territory without any help

>You called me a newfag when it's clear you're the newfag here? At no point was Jow Forums leftist you fucking rebbitor faggot.
Oh my God, you're fucking serious. You're really that new. You weren't here for the Stormfag hate. You weren't here for Tumblr and SRS trying to concern troll as Stormfag haters but always outing themselves because they couldn't bring themselves to type 'fag', preferring the term "Stormweenie". You legitimately have no idea how far we've come from simply "not leftists" to full "14/88! Who will we exterminate? Niggers! Kikes and, the Niggers!"; you have no idea what our starting point was.

You probably started watching Murdoch Murdoch two weeks ago and wandered in thinking we were always like this. Well, funny story, we weren't. We've been on a long journey, and it's been glorious. And we're not done yet, so stick around, newfag, you're part of the ride now and the ride never ends.

>At no point was Jow Forums leftist
>implying you can only be on the right if you hate niggers

Jesus you're either retarded or you're awful at baiting. get gud m80

fucking kikes.

yeah, and the part that must be scary to the kikes at VICE and elsewhere is that we don't walk around with red suspenders, shaved heads, and Hakenkreuz tattoos.

God Kikes are so fucking proud of getting to people through their children. They don't even try to hide it.

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and that for every one of us that posts there are probably 100 lurkers
I lurked on Jow Forums for about a decade before ever posting

Stormfront will ban you for saying nigger

you sound like a kike, no Jow Forumstard talks like that. Faggit

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Ed Asner.

>Race and IQ is totally the environment, race isn't real, IQ is debatable.
>Blacks getting longer sentences (because of recidivism) means they don't commit more crime.
>IQ is racist too.

Shit article 2/10.

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>pol is one person of one age group who talks the same way in every post
Yea verily, thou art touch’d in the head, and forsooth shouldst thou be attired in the cloth of yonder maidens, thou wouldst verily be touch’d in other places too, by me

Lol really?

>Yitzhak Edward Asner
doubt

yeah, they unironically disapprove of "racism."

This is what happens when you send your kids to college.

>You fucking newfag...Don Black is a former Grand Wizard of the KKK and founder of Stormfront. Stormfront was the most prominent white nationalist forum on the internet from 1995 to the recent past. Anons used to be paranoid about Stormfags working to subvert Jow Forums, right up until we started hating niggers and jews more than they did and became too extreme for Stormfront.

Pretty much, if anything Jow Forums SUBVERTED Stormfront.

>Anyway, Derek Black was Don Black's son who became a bluepilled multikult niggerloving SJW in college.
This, it had nothing to do with arguments, but with him becoming personal friends with a leftist jew. This is why you shouldn't raise your kids with hamfisted political propaganda, the Prussian Blue girls are also another example.

What does "glamourising weapons" have to do with gender? They're not even bothering to hide that this is just meant to shove ideology down the child's throat from birth.
>swap round sex pronouns in children's books
Right, teach your child their own language incorrectly on purpose in order to manipulate how they view the world. This should be classified as abuse.

So, what is it they're trying to accomplish then? Are they trying to rehabilitate themselves to be like AmRen?

>she
Obviously the deal was "I'll let you touch my tits if you say I convinced you to drop white nationalism"

That part about diverse societies being more productive is a flat out lie
Latin America is one of the most race-mixed places in the world and to this day has not gotten its shit together since they pushed the Spanish out (I certainly wish the best for the Brazilians though)

There are different philosophies on the right wing. Whether or not to try and reason with the left by taming the racism or embracing it and going all the way. Stormfront is all about being "reasonable" racists

Slavs nor Irish nor Italians(never ever) are white

You can start by not going "REEEEE YOU RACIST SHITLORD!" or sucker punching random people on the street.

No, they take the position that "racism" means unthinking irrational hate and they don't want to be perceived as racist. You can absolutely talk shit on all other races on Stormfront, you just aren't allowed to call them certain rude names. It's a good site even if it is full of boomers.

>How to talk someone out of white nationalism
"Oy vey Goyim! Every race on earth is allowed to look out for the interests of their own except white people because we slaughtered 50 million of you then faked 6 million of our own dying. Don't you know that wanting to not be exterminated by a horde of violent barbarians is bad? Oh, but only if you're white. Also, gimme all your shekels."

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True

>How to talk to someone out of their own and their children's self interest AKA survival
>Jow Forums used to be libertarian and used to call racists stormfags
Whenever I hear this trope by literal new-faggots I cringe.
No, posting ron paul and happening threads doesn't constitute as being libertarian.
For the point, we had more anarcho-capitalist and national-socialist, national-capitalist etc threads than libertarian ones.
Most rejects on Jow Forums were not even here for the zimzam saga. Much less the JIDF wars.

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unlimited blowjobs and i'll pretend to not be racist

>everytime I see a japan flag is combined with a based comment

I am convinced that the next war fought, you beautiful bastards will be helping us mow down waves of chinese bug people.

ancap and libertarian are basically the same thing

I love how the article never says how she swayed him on white genocide.

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>ancap and libertarian are basically the same thing

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like most JP flag posters I’m not an actual Japanese but living in Japan will make you woke when you realize what even a nonwhite society can achieve without the nigger and the jew
leftist activism is also heavily suppressed here after numerous leftist terrorist acts up to the 1970’s

could you explain in what fundamental way they differ

I assume this is like that black guy who's "befriended" 200 KKK members and gotten them to """"quit"""" WN which is actually just loosy-goosy number padding and the fact that the skins get the black dude to testify as a character witness in court for them when they commit violent crimes.

Japanese posters offer only wisdom.

Libertarianism has a centralized government still. An-cap has no centralized government. That's a pretty significant difference. Definitely in the same genus but a different species nonetheless.

Well that article was fucking infuriating to read. The excuses the guy comes up with are fucking endless and have zero evidence of that being the reason for the gap. That's the problem with these people. They come up with excuse after excuse after excuse and demand that every last thing possible be controlled for, even the impossible stuff like "racial bias".

There will NEVER be enough evidence for these people. Also that "white nationalist" is a retard if he bent his knee towards those retarded counter arguments.

Where are you staying? I’m in Kanagawa.

I was looking for that too, she conviently never answered that part of the question

He should have said if intelligence is mostly determined by socioeconomic background, then Donald Trump should be one of the smartest people on Earth.

far from the Kantou area, don’t want to get any more specific

Leftists argue from emotion, despite displaying less emotional responses to things which should normally evoke disgust or fear. What evokes fear in them is that their worldview should be questioned, or some uncomfortable truths should have to be acknowledged. They try to win arguments to convince themselves that their behavior is acceptable in a world where they're constantly criticized for being abnormal freaks. One hundred years ago, they would call every living person a nazi, because no one held such emotional attachments to ideas like radical racial and sexual egalitarianism. Indeed, in most places of the world today, people would call leftists freaks. Only in the west are we afforded the luxury of being transqueer blackbodied mentally-abled fur-kin.

The more wrong one's worldview, the more viciously one defends it because one has spent so much mental energy convicing oneself of something so ridiculous. To admit that they are wrong would be thoroughly humiliating. In a tribal setting, it would probably mean the death of their genetic lineage. That's how bad the humiliation would be.

Why else would someone grasp at this many straws so desperately and breathlessly? "They didn't control for nutrition, breast-feeding, lead exposure or racism." Nothing is ever good enough. We could conclusively show that black INFANTS adopted by white parents who were breastfed and sent to the best schools have an IQ two standard deviations lower than their step-siblings and yet more excuses would be dreamed up. Because the alternative to defending their indefensible worldview is social alienation and emotional distress. It's essentially suicide.

We're arguing with people who are ready to defend their worldview to the death. They take what we're saying as threats against their very existence. No wonder they hate socially conscious white people so much–we might (((find them out))).

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that’s a fair point, largely a matter of degree I guess

He's arguably one of the smartest people on the planet.

Here we fucking go, "rationalism" and liberalism striking back against the turning tide. I'm entirely cetain that people like the one in the artice can point to "research" that "disproves" all then WN talking points. The thing is, reality shows us otherwise. Why does Detroit look like Africa? Why do blacks commit similar amounts of rape, murder, etc regardless of their location?

People are obviously not all the same, it's fucking insane that this is the angle they are pushing. That said, even if it were the case, there is something deeper within nationalism they cannot touch. A sort of metaphysical value of a people, a race, a nation in the traditional sense.

It's bullshit, but I'd put good money on us seeing a lot more shit like this in the next couple of years.

/news/ was closed down because of anti-semitism. Jow Forums was racist from day 1. You are incorrect.

don't tell anyone I told you but Derek is still our guy he just keeps it on the low because he wants to actually work for a living and live as much of a normal life as possible

It's the Nog of the Gaps

The weenie thing wasn't a raid. It was this one autistic guy. I miss him now.

I've heard this along the grapevine myself, I want to believe.

Things That Never Happened: The Vice Article
They should stick to writing about marijuana enemas.

Yup. moot even cried "If Jow Forums starts turning into stormfront again I'll SHUT IT DOWN" which he did. Then the shitposting crashed Jow Forums as Jow Forums spilled out onto the other boards. The site was unusable for days lul. Eventually he cucked like he always did.

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It's really bad. Literally every point is destroyed by thealternativehypothesis.org

>so this is the power of Khazar milkers

Every society in history has gotten more unstable the more diverse it became until eventually it was torn apart or conquered from the outside. Societies that remained closed off from foreign infiltration remained rather stable over the longterm, though mostly lacked grand imperial periods, but empire is what tends to bring in influxes of foreign elements and peoples.

>"If Jow Forums starts turning into stormfront again I'll SHUT IT DOWN"
he said that about /new/, not Jow Forums

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The IQ thing is irrelevant, Asians are smarter than whites, but I still don't want to share a state with them.

We already know from twin and transracial adoption studies that IQ is roughly 75% genetics and 25% environment, with the environmental factors primarily being shit like drug use by the mother during pregnancy or someone having a brain injury which impacts cognition.

>I'm entirely cetain that people like the one in the artice can point to "research" that "disproves" all then WN talking points.
Actually they can't, the data all supports us, but is largely suppressed in Western academia while Eastern academia is frank about their findings on the genetic and biological basis for race and racial difference in IQ and cognition and other areas.

>jews trying yet again to get poltads to take up the mantle of nazism so they can be easily destroyed
NAZIS ARE GAY HOMO NIGGER SOCIALIST AUTHORITARIANS
NAZIS ARE SOCIALISTS ARE DEMOCRATS ARE KIKES ARE BOLSHEVIKS ARE JEWS ARE KKK
The REASON the kikes (holocaust was a kike eugenics op) tied nationalism to this eugenics op is they wanted to always sully that term
the whole thing wasn't planned
but WW2 was
KIKES WON ww2
pearl harbor was the point
ww2: get 10,000,000 kikes into the US to STEAL EVERYTHING
they won
look at your dick
they used computers to eugenics 1/3 of their tribe
US kike iq: 105
israel kike iq: 95
THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE IF HOLOCAUST WAS WHAT YOU THINK
HOLOCAUST DENIAL WAS INVENTED BY THE KIKES
to make the question "did it happen"
not
WHAT WAS IT REALLY
it was a computer assisted EUGENICS OP
because kikes were freaking out that the new world was a filter for whites, meaning only the strong survive, it was a strong environmental evolutionary force, making whites even better
Well, they fucking done killed that
THE SAME TEXTS THAT GAVE US WW2, GAVE US THE FAKE WAR ON FAT THAT KILLED _MORE PEOPLE THAN WW2_ WHICH WAS ALSO A FUCKING ANTI-WHITE, PRO KIKE WAR
WW2 WAS A KIKE OP
KIKES WERE IN JAPAN PRIOR TO PEARL HARBOR

>It's the most multivariable. Crime and race is easier, because there's so much evidence behind black people getting harsher sentences for the same crimes. And that is hard to argue with.
Bitch, your paper says that niggers get harsher sentences. Nothing about why they get caught red-handed way more often or why they commit that many crimes. Judges will obviously get more discriminatory and give harsher sentences once they experience and see that more blacks commit more heinous crimes.

>That's not what it is statistically. There's a lot of research that shows why the black/white IQ gap is not due to genetic differences. So there's a lot of factors: prenatal nutrition, educational opportunities, racism both overt and covert in the US.
No mental retard ever said that these DO NOT affect IQ, we say that race and genetics ALSO affect IQ substantially. Otherwise, European ancestry in African Americans won't have a correlation with high IQ. Nor will adopted black children have lower IQ than white kids.
>Ignores the Minnesota adoption study.
>Ignores evolutionary argument.
>Only uses recent (((studies))) that just say old studies wuz wrong, and my numbers are right because old studies wuz racist.

PART 1

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yes they do

PART 2

>White nationalists point out that kids who are adopted into other families still have IQ scores that are correlated with their biological parents—that is because, like all things, there is some genetic contribution. But there’s a good meta-analysis, which is a mathematical review of all of the published studies, by a few researchers at Leiden University of over 17,000 adopted children that shows that adoption from a poorer family into a family with a higher socioeconomic status is associated with large gains in IQ compared to non-adopted siblings or peers.
Fuck this lying bitch. She says now that there is "genetic contribution". Seriously, fuck her.
Also, "adoption from a poorer family into a family with a higher socioeconomic status is associated with large gains in IQ compared to non-adopted siblings or peers." Does the meta-analysis concern race? Of course, no, because genes and race do affect IQ, you fag whore.

It's funny. Jow Forums was Jow Forums's third political/current events board. /new/ was the second. old /n/ was shut down because during the 08 election it was 75% threads about calling obama a nigger. This is why moot's first post on /new/ was a warning about not turning the place into stormfront again. Any politics centric board on Jow Forums was racist as shit from day one thanks to the anonymity, don't let revisionist leftist redditors make you think otherwise.

>Does the meta-analysis concern race? Of course, no, because genes and race do affect IQ, you fag whore.
>PIC RELATED FROM THE SAME STUDY

Libertarianism, aka constitutional patriotism, is a product of the Frankfort school, you're unwitting controlled opposition. The enemy fears fascism and nationalism socialism, it laughs at libertarianism and uses it as a psy op and fly trap against dissidents and would-be dissidents.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_patriotism
There was no Holocaust, the claims are logistically impossible and various census and other records cast far beyond a reasonable doubt that there was no Holocaust.

>old /n/ was shut down because during the 08 election it was 75% threads about calling obama a nigger.
Kek. Based.

Blacks get harsher sentences because they most typically have records, the more a record someone has, the harsher further penalties tend to be.

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>I've heard this along the grapevine myself, I want to believe.
Don always seemed to imply this on his radio show when he talked about his son.
Isn't this most of us, though? I don't go talking about (((THEM))) IRL . I have to make a living.

How do you talk someone out of jewish ethnic nationalism, zionism? 2 million dead in the middle east so far haha

Forgot to say, this meta-analysis also includes studies in Romania. But this is beside the point that this lying bitched changed the argument. We were talking about RACE and how adopted niggers still have lower IQ. THEN she cites a general adoption meta-analysis as if people only adopt niggers.

Why don't we archive?
archive.is/NutEQ

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This is glorious. I love this.

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I don't talk about (((them))) anywhere either. But I would not be able to fake it and go do npr specials about how racism is wrong the way Derek has done in the recent past. Don't have the patience.

>how to talk someone out of white nationalism
>talk out
>convert

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MFW reading that

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The thing is that she twists and uses fallacies to twist her argument into making sense.
Refer to these:

we've been infiltrated

Stormfront is an ADL honeypot

It's not. Don Black was pretty shady when it came to server costs though. Kept on insisting server costs were $7500/month well into 2014 when things were really winding down. Probably just used that as an excuse to fleece boomers of their money.

For all you youngins stormfront was basically the Jow Forums of the 90s internet. One of the largest forums on the internet and a total Boogeyman living in everyone's head rent free the same way Jow Forums is right now.