Hospital bill for giving birth

not even the dead can know peace from THIS evil

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You're really making me hate my 2% Baltic ancestry

wait a minute you only get like 50k to be a surrogate mother right? that doesn't cover even a small fraction of this

Dont pay it, not like they can steal your baby. You telling me niggers popping out kids every year pay this?

same estonia faggot from the other thread? so tiresome. dont give this person yous

The niggers are probably the reason it's like this.

have your kids at home, a quality dula is under 3k. I've had all 3 of my children at home. no drugs, no needles, no bullshit.

be a real woman and homebirth.

The FDA is what's wrong with it

Something had to go wrong during that birth, no way this is a normal one

Yeah, never paid such medical care numbers in the US, ever. I don't know where you leftists fucks get these from, but it's hilarious to me.

Fake and gay.

Iv had 2 kids with my wife being there for multiple days, never paid more than $1600 after insurance. This is a blatant lie.

That's because this post is bait

I think this bill is a load of horseshit, but having had a few medical bills roll through my door over the years, I can affirm that Americans get massacred by the healthcare industry. We hide a lot of it with outrageous insurance premiums, but it really is a buttrape bonanza.
I got a bill for an appendectomy for $16,000 some twenty five years ago. After "insurance", it was still $6000. The hospital settled for $3200 of my money, which is what I suspect it actually cost, since I spent less than 24 hours in hospital.
Single payer is coming, guys. What we've got is not sustainable. Stop paying for unwinnable wars and protecting every nation from Israel to Finland and let's start taking care of our own.

This isn't a bill, this is an EOB. It lists the price totals of services, but this is generally prior to going through insurance, HMO, Medicaid/Medicare, etc. The top value likely has very little reflection on the final value paid by the pt. or family.

Just get rid of insurance and medicare/medicaid, That's why everything is asspounded

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Yeah because healthcare that's paid for by the government won't be substandard like everything else that the government funds.
Also
>Not having insurance that covers everything including childbirth

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If you're under middle class everything is free here. When I was younger I never had to pay a single copay with Medicaid, not even for dental.

what is that?

We can have cheap, free market medicine. Just look at how cheap veterinary care is. But you have to be prepared to put down Nana when her hip goes.
The thing about single-payer is we're already paying for everything as a group. Might as well bundle it all together and utilize public/private partnerships to bring service to everybody. It's how we build roads after all.

>i will hate my ancestry because my country is fucked
also a victim of jewish dna test scam :DDDDD

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God, what I would give to fuck a woman while she gives birth.

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Someone posts this same fucking image once a week for the past year. Dafuq wrong witchu?

The more kids the more money the government gets so why would they make it financially impossible to have kids and ruin a future tax payer?

This has to be bait.

I am more surprised they dont hand out money to people who have kids instead at the hospital

i dont belive the title:''most expensive nation in the world to give birth'' is something to be proud off.
First world country should have an affordable healthcare (not free, but is supported by Insurance)
if you guy can spend 600 billion dollar for military, then i believe that you can spend more for healthcare, and not for all of the money for bombs and gun, acting like a total warmonger .

theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/16/why-does-it-cost-32093-just-to-give-birth-in-america

parents.com/pregnancy/considering-baby/financing-family/what-to-expect-hospital-birth-costs/

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You should just see the pics

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Shhhh, don't banter them about this. If they fix their healthcare system they'll release trillions which they can use to spread their """culture""".

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The government shouldn't be involved in the healthcare system it's not their place to meddle, they're the main reason healthcare is so expensive anyways

That's not what you should be worried about, nordicuck. When America goes single payer and stops paying for your defense, you're going to lose your free shit.

It’s the same thing with education here. They did it because they thought we would go socialist and let the taxes pay for these hyper inflated prices. That’s why these huge corporations and monopolies love socialism now. They don’t want the prices to come down, they want a way to keep their scam going.

POWERFUL

Alot of that is because of the FDA regulations and our ridiculous tort laws.
Unsurprisingly, both are controlled by Kike bureaucracy and Kike lawyers.

>tfw paid 102k for knee surgery

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>Professor Ted was right
He certainly was.

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>penetration while a newbie spawn comes out
???

This is not a bill for "giving birth". This must be a bill for some major complications, or a child who was born with serious problems.

This is horseshit, you don't get a $600K bill for having a child & two days in the hospital.

>it should be like roads
Roads should be more like the private health insurance industry so we'd have decent roads.
Imagine if an insurance company had to pay out claims when the road they manage causes an accident. They'd figure out a way to cut road deaths in half a year

Sage

Lol this isn't even a real bill. I work in health insurance and see hundreds per day.

They cherrypick extreme situations that only make up .000001% of whatever subset they are in. This was probably some shit like a 42 y/o first time mom giving birth to premie triplets and they all had birth defects.

im 29 with almost 700,000 in debt from cancer, best part? due to my 4year work gap from dying noone wants to hire me

your fucking wrong their are many such cases.

You can have the bants, Finn
We'll take every other conceivable measure of success

Lel, got our 2 kids at home.

Its over valued because the insurance companies can charge as though they are running a monopoly. Less regulation and time will fix this problem.

I don't know what the right answer is yet, but what we've got stinks on ice.
We know that some 75-90% of healthcare is basic shit that can be automated, parceled out, or otherwise made way cheaper. Probably a third of the shit we do is to keep druggies from getting pills. I say fuck those guys, let me get decent Sudafed from the drugstore like a grown as white man without a fucking prescription.
The hard stuff, like cancer and medical innovations in pharmacology and surgery should be more like a civil service. You get paid decently well, with no med school debt. Let smart people become doctors again, rather than the rapacious assholes who get in it for the money.
Unleash the power of a free market economy without the overbearing weight of government oversight over every niggling detail, and let people make choices without having to weigh stupid options because they have to choose their health or their house.

americans forever BTFO

Weird, it only costs me about $2500 which is fuckn chump change over here

well said

>What is insurance, Alex?

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>We'll take every other conceivable measure of success

Surely a well funded army can't loose against a few farmers haha

the more nigs born the less money the government gets; whiteys need to pick up the slack

Right now its not free market healthcare, you have exactly the worst case scenario. A bloated government heavy mixed market economy for medicine.

Single payer is better, and free market is better.

Expensive medicine is not actually that big of a deal. Most of the money is well placed assuming free market incentives are actually present. But they arent.

Its the unbelievable hospital costs which are typically absorbed by insurance companies which get your tax money via medicare to offset their own fucks given. A gaping hole in the incentives created by free government dole.

If you just chose not to pay your medicine bills (and there are laws which work to protect you), or you eliminate tax involvement in medicine and insurance, assuming laws force doctors to treat people in emergency, they would be forced to lower the price of treatment, or increase prices to non-emergency (cosmetic surgery) options. Since the insurance companies pay the bills for the most part, the massive prices exist to rip off the insurance companies, who dont lose that much because they are invested 100% in hospitals and pharmacology corps and as i said earlier get your money anyways via tax.

The incentives are 100% to make doctors, insurance and pharmacy ventures rich as fuck and prevent you from refusing bad prices because your life is on the line and you have less choice. It is somewhat realistic and harsh but its bloated to all hell.

At the same time, you americans have the absolute best imaginable healthcare if you have the money to afford it. No where on earth comes close. Its very complex.

Transition to single payer should be state by state and federal tax grabs should be reduced and more sent to the states so they can make up their own mind. At best federal should have a set of provisional laws to aid enforcement and prevent fraud that might arise if one state becomes single payer and the others do not. Also, if your unhealthy, you get less 'free' treatment.

The surrogate mother has all of her medical bills paid by the couple whose egg was implanted in her. The $50k fee is separate from the medical bills.

>Imagine making babies while unemployed with no health insurance

>The incentives are 100% to make doctors, insurance and pharmacy ventures rich as fuck and prevent you from refusing bad prices because your life is on the line and you have less choice.
To continue, its also to keep old people alive forever because they will NEVER vote against medicare and overwhelmingly prop their life up on your dollars.

Seething mutt

Imagine making babies with that many birth defects. The list of reasons those two should not have children is longer than the receipt.

abortion would have been a lot cheaper.

Americans can't argue for their medical system. It's pathetic.

R.I.P anyone in the US that's going to be debt slaves for several lifetimes because they dared call an ambulance

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>I can affirm that Americans get massacred by the (((healthcare industry)))

economic warfare, my doods.

I paid 11 dollars out of pocket for the birth of my child. That is with my wife having to stay in the hospital for 4 days. Get a job with benefits you enormous faggot.

Hospitals raise prices because they know the insurance companies are going to negotiate down by a significant margin. If hospitals lower prices, insurance companies negotiate lower to a point where the hospital can no longer function. Were you charged for the actual medical costs, and insurance companies were removed from the equation, it would be significantly less, but you would end up paying more out of pocket.

Can't be all there is to it. How do poor people have kids then?

Hospitals also raise prices to cover all the people who don't pay. Your broken leg might really only cost $100 to set but they're charging you $1000 to cover the 9 people (mostly nonwhites) who didn't pay for their treatment.

>Laboratory, pharmacy and physician: 99k
>Room, care and respiratory theraphy: 500k

imagine going through such mental gymnastics to actually defending this
best healthcare in the world is in cuba

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We pay for our own defence, fatass.

i was going to go on a tirade about obama and his banker buddies and driving the price to insane levels, but whats the fucking point, you know its the bankers, you know who did this, whatever

so they spend 650k on a baby ...

>Transition to single payer should be state by state and federal tax grabs should be reduced and more sent to the states so they can make up their own mind. At best federal should have a set of provisional laws to aid enforcement and prevent fraud that might arise if one state becomes single payer and the others do not. Also, if your unhealthy, you get less 'free' treatment.
So much this. Straight up block grants to states based on population would be far better than the rules in place now. And if you're a fat fuck, lose weight or enjoy being crippled, we're not replacing your knee tubby.

It's true. I'm not defending anything, merely stating the fact that hospital bills go up for people who actually do pay to recuperate losses incurred by people who don't pay.
t. medical billing wagecuck

>Get a job being paid less than you should faggot
You're a fucking retard if you think you're not paying for shit anyway.

This is why white people don't fuck anymore.

My son was born earlier this year, cesarean and 3 days stay before going home. Our bill was under 20k, a little over 3k after insurance paid.

Imagine giving birth in a hospital
Just fucking squat over a towel and pretend your taking a shit.
Have you ever taken a shit laying down?

>Finland's defence budget equals approximately 2.9 billion euros or 1.2% of GDP
Fucking lol, you're not paying for shit. BTW, you're welcome for keeping the Soviets at bay for 70 years on our dime.
Fuck you, ingrate.

Anyone have a good book recommendation on why this is so fucked up?

>at least i have free healthca-

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Yep. $1600 is exactly what we paid when we had our third last year.

Can't you go bankrupt?

wow holy fucking shit

You are a retard it’s the same for euros you just don’t see the bill because the state pays directly where the us has private insurance

Do you really think hospitals are just free you absolute mongoloid ??

i only paid 14$ for parking on average for each kid

>Not buying insurance
>Becoming a slave for the rest of your life
>Serve as an example for the rest
I see no problem here

American healthcare - where it's so bad people come from all around the world to get it

>and an additional 8k in taxes a year