How did a middle man become the richest man in America?

Well let's put it this way, maybe large hedge funds and thus their investors have a way of gambling/betting/predicting on how our future looks like, maybe that's why they have been a prominent supplier of WH staff.

In a way it's the same for tesla, yes they are burning money but in 15 years time, nobody will look at the losses it made to become a leading company in changing the world and how we live it.

>maybe large hedge funds and thus their investors have a way of manipulating how our future looks
ftfy

The problem here is that Wall St loves to hide behind their helpless victim cries of "free market! free market!" (the bankers' day job version of their personal "anti-semitism! anti-semitism!) while secretly manipulating the financial markets - and thus the public (since the markets are based on streams of the public's money).

That (((they))) have selectively bred and indoctrinated Americans to have the attention spans of goldfish of course helps them in their pillage.

by making workers be on foodstamps
by making piramide shemes with all manifactures
by selling purchase habits to PR companies
.......

also he is with pentagon

>capitalism
>wall street

He put based his company in seattle because the government would subsidize all the shipments, amazon ships off american tax payer dollars. It's a hellacious company that uses slave labor and is funded by the government.

Why was Warren Buffets father a congressman?

These guys get in on low key legislation before it passes and invest billions to profit off that legislation. It's fucked and it won't change. they investigated senators for this maybe 5 or 6 years ago and found, yeah, it's happened, but you can't do shit to them for it.

It's up to the US government to regulate (I know not very American) wall st. We all know if they are left to do what they want, we all pay the price, that doesn't mean that they are doing everything they can to keep everyone poor. That wouldn't even make sense, if they run out of people willing to invest / gamble in the system their money runs out.

As to the goldfish, maybe there should be an organisation that fights for the people, say people we give power to take decisions in a way that benefits the people and whom are held accountable to the policy they created. So when we see policy fail we know those are not the ones we want to give the power of making policy for the upcoming number of years.

Government will always seek to help companies that employ people by giving them benefits, they'd rather have 10k people working than having to hear how an American business (in this case) rather moves abroad for cost efficiency.

yep. in America they use the US postal service and UPS/FedEx to do the legwork. Pretty much get to print money because of how woven in they've made themselves

Muh Judaism

The middle man is always the ONLY o e who gets rich in the end.

Here is an episode of a child’s animated program to explain the concept further.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=D7WPeUpcBlg

>miners don’t get rich in a gold rush, it is the men selling the pick axes and the shovels.

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Capitalism.
New technology -> new market growing boom

Thats the one and only chance to get big and become capitalst for common ppl. But If you re late (like 90% of startuppers) to dinner youre fucked and banks has yo guts

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To be fair they still pay for services received. At least that's what they do here, I don't know if they got special reductions from the US government for using FedEx or UPS, which is likely for providing work to a lot of Americans as a result of their business. And it's not amazon's ceo's fault to take the deals which benefits his company most.

Like I said when it comes to logistics I know something about it, the first thing I know is how expensive it is to provide the service amazon promises to its customers, which is why in the US they work with US Post and FedEx and in Europe they team up with my employer to bring total cost down while offering an amazing service to their customers. (let us not forget we all want our ordered stuff yesterday for practically no extra costs)

>Government will always seek to help companies that employ people by giving them benefits,

Giving an unfair advantage to one individual isn't supposed to happen, but it will. I'm just answering the question. I also think it's wrong and disrupts the market, but whatever. The labor conditions he uses are also abhorrent, which makes it even worse that he gets gov help, and has for a long time. At the end of the day, my main point is the idea that he is some kind of business wiz is bullshit, he was a made man before he even got started. Yes, he's intelligent, but he would be a nobody without the leg up he was given as a start up and I get sick of hearing about the "garage" or the "one dollar bill in my pocket" bullshit.

>in Europe they team up with my employer
DHL?

based and redpilled

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>a leading company in changing the world and how we live it
a cuck's post from a pedo's flag...call me surprised

THIS
theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/

based and redpilled: certain businness deals are closed in pentagram' temples

he actually put all the company profits back in to the company like you're supposed to per most textbooks
a wealth creator (for the most part) rather than a wealth extractor

>I get sick of hearing about the "garage" or the "one dollar bill in my pocket" bullshit
But if the public weren't force fed that bullshit, and got told the truth of "it's a big club and you'll never be in it" then the people might not he such docile animals on their way to slaughter.

A great scene from "Head Office":
youtube.com/watch?v=4gZ5Msobytw

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I'm not arguing that he got help, I'm pointing out that once you have a company with such a customer base which requires a lot of employees/sub contractors (people making sure your shit gets where it needs to be on time, warehousing, etc) the government will always give you a sweeter deal than "Dan the local hardware store owner". Though "Dan" will get benefits from his local government if his business is of such value to the local community.

Yes

I don't know about you but when I was 20 ordering stuff online and receiving it the day after was only a service provided to the most lucrative businesses like banks or big oil, yes he changed the game, yes we live in a world where we buy today before 11pm and its in the mailbox tomorrow.

>which requires a lot of employees/sub contractors (people making sure your shit gets where it needs to be on time, warehousing, etc) the government will always give you a sweeter deal

You make it sounds like altruism or something, it's rigging the game so they can get rich, that's it. I'm not sure if you just lie to save face or you are just naive.

>also he is with pentagon
Selling a computer system to the government = with the Pentagon
Citations?

You fucking brainlets are hopeless. It's capitalism holding you back.... just an accident of chance someone gave Amazon to Bezos instead of you, amirite?

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Amazon wasn't profitable untill recently

Middlemen have always become the richest, just look at jews.

>Because Logistics > Tactics

I've always like that quote

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It's rigging the game to get people employed, I'd be more concerned about the amount his employees earn (on average not a lot) than the benefits his company would get anywhere in the world.

Why is it that the Brazilian posters that are the biggest cappie bootlickers

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cops lawyers judges and military, that's how.

>Amazon is just an absolutely massive front for a a massive child trafficking network

I'm calling dibs on this.

At one point, wasn't a company like Sears seen as unstoppable commercial juggernaut? I'm not sure if they're around, but the last one I walked into years ago felt sad.

Maybe around 15-20 years ago, weren't people writing stories about how Wal-Mart was going to destroy all of American businesses because of how dominant they are and people were scared of a Wal-Mart dominated future? Aren't they a flacid 4th rate afterthought today because they missed the boat online?

Amazon looks unstoppable now, but what makes you think they'll hit the next innovation cycle and hit it big again? They have a million smart competitors all gunning for them. I'm not saying to not be cautious about them, but dominant companies don't stay that way forever. It's always been this way.

This truth is far less exciting than the bullshit these unemployable retards will flood this thread with.

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Each one of these erodes the business in the USA, replacing them with chains stores. The slow grind.

>yes he changed the game
He changed the game *for now*.

Amazon's business and shipping model is socially unsustainable. Amazon has changed the game like borrowing a bunch of money and living large changes the game. It's great...until the payments come due.

And that payment will have to be paid by the public, since they are the ones who will end up living in a country where the best they can hope for is a miserable job in one of Bezos' sweatshops - if they can get a job at all.

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whats the deal with manlets? something must be done about them

>The Under-Man is unconvertible. He will not bow to the new truth, because he knows that the new truth is not for him. Why should he work for a higher civilization, when even the present civilization is beyond his powers ? What the Under-Man wants is, not progress, but regress regress to more primitive conditions in which he would be at home. In fact, the more he grasps the significance of the new eugenic truth, the uglier grows his mood. So long as all men believed all men potentially equal, the Under-Man could delude himself into thinking that changed circumstances might raise him to the top. Now that nature herself proclaims him irremediably inferior, his hatred of superiority knows no bounds.

>This hatred he has always instinctively felt. Envy and resentment of superiority have ever been the badges of base minds. Yet never have these badges been so fiercely flaunted, so defiantly worn, as today. This explains the seeming paradox that, just when the character of superiority becomes supremely manifest, the cry for levelling "equality" rises supremely shrill. The Under- Man revolts against progress! Nature herself having decreed him uncivilizable, the Under-Man declares war on civilization.

>These are not pretty facts. But we had better face them, lest they face us, and catch us unawares. Let us, then, understand once and for all that we have among us a rebel army the vast host of the unadaptable, the incapable, the envious, the discontented, filled with instinctive hatred of civilization and progress, and ready on the instant to rise in revolt.
---- The Revolt Against Civilization

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This guy gets it.

Lowering costs, which the consumer is always looking for. I'm not saying it is a good system, but I don't buy stuff locally if I can get it as easily (even more easy as I don't have to go to the local shop) from amazon if amazon is €0.01 cheaper.

Don't know about the deals in America, but here they lease planes and facilities to process the non stop flood of crap they are sending.

It's still the model to compare to, if you want to compete with amazon you'll have to be as cheap as them, deliver as fast as them or... Offer service they don't provide, this is how a local shop owner can effectively "compete" with multinationals.

the go-between of the service/product maker and the consumer has always been a profitable market.
The producers focus on their production instead of spreading their finances and resources into every aspect of making and getting stuff to the consumer. It also helps greatly when you organize products into neat categories for consumers to easily look for, all in one place.

>Lowering costs, which the consumer is always looking for. I'm not saying it is a good system, but I don't buy stuff locally if I can get it as easily (even more easy as I don't have to go to the local shop) from amazon if amazon is €0.01 cheaper.
And this is a fundamental problem. It is not true that people just want cheaper prices; they have been conditioned that way. Many people, especially older people, enjoy the community and trust that comes from knowing the place you bought it from, and the social interaction of the community. This mindset should be encouraged, and it is essential for a community in general. thing is, Communities no longer exist, except for the very wealthy, who still have stores which are focused towards expensive clothing and objects in-store.

Nov. 1st all the workers are going to get bumped to $15.00/hour
Amazon hires its warehouse workers with just a web test, literally open a browser and point and click some packages to make sure that you aren't blind or mentally impaired
no references or previous work experience
compare that to the wholesome Ma and Pa small business that pays $10 or less, demands a work history and still treats its workers like shit

He works on some kind of magic where shareholders & stock buyers see value in selling products for cost price, 0% margins! Welcome to the post 2008 QE-clown world.

This. “The market is free, just more for me than thee.”

Look at the Cali goldrush's first millionaire. It was the guy selling picks and explosives.

>magic where shareholders & stock buyers see value
If you believe there is no value in Amazon as a company even now you are fucking hopeless. This is why some people become millionaires and losers like you will always be broke whiny faggots.

Fuck you kike, we have a jew-created debt-based money system & debt is not capital, Shlomo.

You fucking Goldstiens have been corrupting honest money for fucking forever in an attempt to spread your commie bullshit and enslave trusting white people.

I see the day soon, when you will begin dying of heat exhaustion en masse.

THE GOYIM KNOW

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I can't wait for all the boomer consultancy millionaires to lose all their money. Fuck me I'll jerk off to that thought I think.

>hurr durr corporate juggernauts swallowing whole markets are perfectly fine
Where are William Taft and Teddy Roosevelt when you need them?

All this talk of shipping and logistics when that is a pretty small part of it's profit and revenue.

Jeebus fuck.

>Where are William Taft and Teddy Roosevelt when you need them?
Probably at their freemason lodges.

Jow Forums fucktards speaking economics. Great.

>And this is a fundamental problem. It is not true that people just want cheaper prices; they have been conditioned that way. Many people, especially older people, enjoy the community and trust that comes from knowing the place you bought it from, and the social interaction of the community.

I agree, but the reality of the world is we can now buy and sell to a global market, in order to have local businesses thrive is to make them evolve to a more customer centric model, where they provide extra service to the customers, like customer service and going the extra mile to increase customer satisfaction. This is what makes local business different from amazon, this is how to convince people to come to your store rather than clicking online to obtain the same items.

Shipping and logistics are their highest cost. Those things cost fortunes.

>he doesn't understand the concept of taking a loss to destroy competition

If we are talking about the retail arm, as i am, then the value is in being able to take all market share in both retail & logistics, which will not happen, ever. Amazon, like Tesla is simply a modern tulip bulb for the current fever we find our selves in. I see you have no argument apart from calling people cunts, as is typical of a mutt.

By focusing on growth of the business instead of profit. It was like 15 years before Amazon even saw a penny of profit, and they almost went bankrupt once in that period. Even now it's not like their profit margins are ridiculous, only a handful of percent (compare that to 40-50% profit margins for Google, Facebook, Apple, Netflix, etc.).

Bezos is unironically an extremely talented businessman and entrepreneur.

He was already a millionaire before he started Amazon, and used a system of parcel delivery patented by the Israeli airforce to ensure efficient despatch of parts for fighter jets. Every fkin time.

>Maybe around 15-20 years ago, weren't people writing stories about how Wal-Mart was going to destroy all of American businesses because of how dominant they are and people were scared of a Wal-Mart dominated future? Aren't they a flacid 4th rate afterthought today because they missed the boat online?

Wal Mart is probably one of the worst things to happen to the USA. It took people out of small unique corner and hardware stores and placed them in neon lit warehouses full of products that come from everywhere but the local community. It's almost like spitting in the face of the local farmers market when wal mart claims it's also stocking local produce, they don't help shit.

They basically lowered their prices until they put everyone out of business and then shot them back up once they had no competition. Then when they had no competition they imported complete shit chinese products that fall apart and can't be trusted.

Yes, they are a pathetic brand these days, but they are the only brand. That's what we are left with. Amazon is the same, they only know how to compete and destroy, and they get gov funds to do it. You know wal mart would go out of business if it couldn't accept EBT? That's government subsidizing but on the low.

What makes you say ma and pa businesses treat people like shit?

Why did Onasis, a Greek man, become one of the richest men in the world by controlling global shipping?

There are some nice posts in this thread. Your post isn't one of them.

reminder amazon barely makes a profit and without the postal office subsidies would actually lose money

>What makes you say ma and pa businesses treat people like shit?

I used to work for one
small businesses are much less consistent
they can be much better than a big corp, or they can be much worse
there is something to be said for a large company that has standardized policies and a separate HR department (as much as I despise how bloated HR has become)
it will be interesting to see how the new Amazon wage affects local labor markets

That was great. Might show this to my cousin. He's 14 and perhaps he needs to learn to hustle.

Do you know who hates capitalism? Dumb and poor faggots. Boo hoo I don't know how this works and I have to eat out of a dumpster behind a retirement home.

also, how come all the riches turn based when money?
pic related

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I think he just saw ahead of the curb, Internet sales were marginal when he started, but we all do it now. The market exploded and the one company which provided this service was amazon (I'm being deliberately simple here there were other companies, but none offered the amount of products amazon did/does nor had the marketing campaign behind it)

As to the margins of Google, Apple, Netflix etc, amazon runs a very different business, they are in fact just a shipping company, they don't make their products, they sell other companies products and get them delivered. The reason amazon is so popular is that they offer an immense amount of product on a Web based shop.

Not to call you a hypocrite, but what are you doing to keep local business alive? Do you only buy in local shops, buy local produce? If you are, good for you, you're wasting a lot of money to do so, not everyone can spend extra money to come by till the end of the month. You need to accept things aren't as they were 25 years ago, they never will be. Change isn't easy but in the end we as consumers/retailers in this case will have to find out how we want to consume / offer our goods.

First quarter of the year:
1.4 billion in operating income from AWS. 1.1 billion in operating income from product sales.
It should be noted AWS op income continues to grow while sales income growth isn't as great due to cost. Next year this time I imagine AWS will be 2/3rds their income.

I do. That is why Amazon is currently promoting a minimum wage. They can easily absorb that cost while walmart/ Target and other brick and motars will have a harder time.

location location location

>Nov. 1st all the workers are going to get bumped to $15.00/hour
Not out of altruism.

Amazon is bumping as a PR move to stave off any serious government regulation.

Even more innocently, the move comes at a time when Amazon's brick-and-mortar competitors - like Target and Kohl's - are hiring holiday seasonal workers...and $15 just happens to screw those competitors during their most important time of the year by being more than what they're paying.

In all fairness, I'm pretty sure Amazon warehouse work is far more physical and demanding than your average retail job. I don't see why Target needs to pay associates $15/hr. Walmart already starts theirs out at $12/hr, and that seems plenty fair to me.

Nice meme, but making sales on the internet while receiving financial help for an extended period, to gut all other physical retail competition is their model. Setting up distribution centers and shipping is challenging yes, but nothing like positioning yourself to be the chosen favored of greedy Wall Street kikes who want to stamp out all competition and get all the shekels.

>Not to call you a hypocrite, but what are you doing to keep local business alive? Do you only buy in local shops, buy local produce? If you are, good for you, you're wasting a lot of money to do so, not everyone can spend extra money to come by till the end of the month. You need to accept things aren't as they were 25 years ago, they never will be. Change isn't easy but in the end we as consumers/retailers in this case will have to find out how we want to consume / offer our goods.
>Not to call you a hypocrite, but what are you doing to keep local business alive?

I literally moved to another country and make less money but there are less corporations here and tons of family owned businesses. The food is fucking amazing and the motivation to slave away for the rest of a persons life isn't as high when they actually have access to what is provided by their environment. I'm not a vegan or a hippy, I just started feeling like I lived in a sadistic country in the USA where people can watch emaciated or obese people slave away in a massive, uncaring, warehouse where they are just an expendable number.

It's unavoidable to use this stuff at times when I'm back in the USA, so yeah, sometimes I do. Aside from that I'm always shopping at farmers markets and buying local. I wish more people would. It costs more but the quality and rapport you establish actually goes a long way and makes life better.

I think you rattle off a bunch of efficient solutions but your thought process is soulless and that is what is crushing people these days.

I think my attitude comes from having a father that was a small business owner, and watching my community support him instead of larger businesses. In the end they were much better off for it, and so were we. When an average town or guy goes against a massive corporation it's a horrific struggle. It causes more stress then it's worth.

/thread

It's like when people ask why Elon Musk is a billionaire. Duh! He knows how to build rockets and electric cars from the ground up, pretty obvious.

its not. The taxing thing about it is the mental abuse from the management staff; but the work takes kidnergarten levels of IQ. They just demand that you do it faster stronger, better

ive worked my ass off for amazon for 4 years. fuck you if you think i havent. im still a level 1 pleb. ive done nearly everything i can think of to try to go up in the company.

anyone that thinks "muh hard" is gets you anywhere is retarded! most ladder climbing is done through switching companies.

if i dont get promoted by the end of the year im leaving this shit company.

actually, youre wrong.
the truth is, there are always people at the top. they get there by being the hardest working, most intelligent, most cunning, most ambitious, and most courageous.

the type of system dictates which of these attributes are most effective, but the hierarchy is a natural structure in all living systems.

if you get good, you can move up. it you dont, you wont. welcome to the real world, kid. its a rigged game, its unfair, but here you are.

protip: saying other people are successful only due to their negative qualities is slave morality.

your entire post reeks of untermensch.

>they get there by being the hardest working, most intelligent, most cunning, most ambitious, and most courageous
or they're just well connected and have no moral system

yep, welcome to the real world, where this has always been the case in human societies.

AWS is literally a middle man between software and customers. An amazing one but still a middle man

I'll point out that I wasn't considering AWS (sorry not really my world).

Hence the strikes we had all over Europe due to work pressure during holiday season. It's a 24/7 operation which requires a lot of hard work and motivated people to come bring it to a good end.

OK so you're not a hypocrite, sorry about that user, and yes you are right to challenge and question the way we live and consume, I did not want to challenge the way your family raised you, you clearly have your hart where it needs to be. I'm just telling you, the word is moving, always, old times don't come back. Sure the way it is going is far from ideal, but this is where consumer behavior becomes essential, it is us who make the profits for companies to stand up and decide how we as a whole want to move forward. If we all stop using x service or buy y brand the companies will adapt their models in order to survive. My opinion on this matter is, why do we need everything everywhere immediately? We are all driven into consuming more and at a higher rate... Why? For profits? I don't care companies make money it's what they do, but we might all want to look into the mirror (as you clearly did) and ask why do we have these businesses? It's because people expect it to... To stop this we as consumers need to change and realise what the costs are for living the way we do.

also
>>Let's undercut our smaller competitors by forcing our employees to work on holidays, instead of spending that time with their families, reflecting on WHY the country recognized that this day was important enough to set aside work.. Screw that!, just dump the money all over me! Fuck America's values!

it provides a service (computing resources) that people want.

it provides this service better than any other company previously did. it is easier to use and more cost efficient in many cases.

so yes, they profited by building something useful and selling it for a price that people are willing to pay.

nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

Fact:
Jeff Bezos' parents invested $245,573 in Amazon in 1995.

So if anyone says that Jeff Bezos got rich because of "muh hard work" remind them of this fact.

in the stupid business of retail, scaling logistics is your ticket to kill competitors. that bezos just took it to the next level. and he is the ultimate npc farmer.

fact: if you were given the same amount of money today, you would not turn it into an empire.

Makes sense. I know it's more time spent, but I would constantly scope out better jobs and take the best opportunities. The corporate overlords will always fuck you if they can get away with it. Your value and their money are the only considerations they make.

It provides a service to provide services. I'm not the dummy who made this thread but its clearly a rather indirect business model but then most of Software is

true but if did i wouldnt say it was only hard work that got me up there.

>thinking 245k is a lot of money

Fact 250k isn't a lot of money for a company like amazon, if you want to do this today you'll have to invest 1 billion dollars.

>but this is where consumer behavior becomes essential

Ok, I agree with you here. This is basically what needs to be corrected. My main complaint with amazon is based off of this though, the same goes for wal mart. They nearly made it impossible for consumers to boycott them by cornering the market through government aid. Wal mart was assisted by EBT and Amazon by the postal regulations in Seattle. I also think it's important to note that they intentionally deceive consumers to convince them that they are good for the community. I want to blame the consumer completely, but I think they are lied to by these guys more often than not. The level of deception that goes into convincing them most of the Corporate head personalities are just like them is awful, and the the way they try to convince them the companies will help their community are awful as well.

I think Wal mart is a good example because of what it has become now. It's a dreary place that is more interested in the global market than anything else. Once they cornered the USA by selling small town american with crap like "roll back" they completely sold out. Now the workers there look like zombies and the customers just look lost and miserable. These are points that won't be taken into consideration with a business plan, and most common people can't foresee. They just hear about all the jobs and cool stuff they will bring into town.

So I agree, but I still shift blame to guys like Bezos that are bullshitting the nation and know they are doing it. they are no different than the guy selling snake oil to the families in the old west, yeah the families fucked up but I'm going to go ahead and say that guy is just an asshole and he's at fault.