Why aren’t you a civic nationalist yet, Jow Forums? Race doesn’t automatcally make someone bad

No. You have a cucked globalist view. Some Nations send people to space and some don't.

You or an Italian, or brit, or American, are not the same. Stop using "white" to we wuz others accomplishments.

Ethnic groups are not static, new ones appear, and old ones die out. There are ethnic groups in America that are ethnically American in that they were created by the formation and history of said nation.

Civic nationalism can’t sustain itself. Even if somehow every race was similar enough for it to be good, after a few generations of people were born you would get all the same problems of before, because of regression in genetics. You would have niggers being a majority of criminal NPCs and a host of other problems

yes it does idiot

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>can't sustain

The oldest nations in the world like egypt are an extension of ancient civ nat societies.

No, but communism does. And some races are far more communist than others.

>new ones appear
Over the course of thousands of years, yes.

>and old ones die out
And the members of those dying groups get pillaged and raped by every other group. That's why people naturally and rightly turn to ethnonationalism in the face of diversity.

>There are ethnic groups in America that are ethnically American in that they were created by the formation and history of said nation
Hahahahaha what? No, there aren't. There is nothing unique in American culture whatsoever. It is an ugly degeneration of Anglo culture and it clashes distinctly with every other minority culture that has ever poured into the United States. "Assimilation" is a myth. Blacks in Chicago act like Blacks in Nigeria and Jews in New York act like Jews in Israel. Other ethnicities may learn the English language but they will never think like English people.

And others suck dick in the woods until the bear stops by.

>hes against migrants
>hes a GLOBALIST
Holy shit American posters really are the fucking worst on this board

But white people are the ones responsible for sending a nation to space. Niggers are useless and have nothing to do with it. They can't even build a house that isn't a hut made outta dried shit. So why would you want them to be a part of your country?

Bullshit. America itself and even Americas regions have developed from longlost and decayed British ways of life into something truly distinct from every other nation on earth (except for those cucks in Canada) and this process wss more or less complete back in the days of revolution.

Of course it doesn't, but until that person proves that fact, you should assume it does, better safe than sorry

At least I still have muh constitution ya’ll! Hurrrr durrrrr I’m a National Socialist because of Nigger lovers like OP

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>race
culture does though; it's like saying "homos don't affect me" because one fag might not but the collective does so you don't talk about it.

Your are simply wrong. Mestizos, are uniqe to the Americas. No other group has their uniqe combination of Spanish, and native. Black americans are unique to the Americas in that no other black diasporic group is a combination of british colonists and Nigerians. They represent new world ethnic groups.

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White people don't have a global nation where all white tax dollars go.

My grandparents tax dollars literally went to NASA, did yours?

On the day of the moon landing some black kid died in the jungles of Vietnam.

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>Race doesn’t automatcally make someone bad.
The crayons go in the crayon box not because crayons are bad, but because they do not belong in the marker bin.

Race may not tell us anything about an individual but it certainly matters when dealing with society as a whole.

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This pretty much refutes the civic nationalist's entire argument.
Minorities don't like white people and they will constantly vote against our interests and push theirs.
We need to get rid of them as soon as possible.

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Why can´t these people stay in their own countries? Why must every white/european built nation be full of literally everybody else but them?

Does it? More like the opposite. Non-Hispanic white males even manage to elect Hillary in one state. Would you better team up with non-whites who vote for Trump, or whites who vote against?

Take a look at this map and realize how unfair it is to suggest that these people who have huge populations back home in their original countries, want to larp as endangered species, instead of admit that the fact they are minorities is because they are not supposed to be there, is on another ethnicities turf/territory.

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>But it actually does. Some races send men to space, some races spread AIDs and HIV.
You describe Russians now

LMAO

I don't understand what your point is. White people are responsible to virtually every single technological or scientific advancement in the world. While niggers haven't contributed with anything and just act like uncivilized degenerates. Why wouldn't you want a white only nation? Every white nation is a first world country (and they started getting worse as soon as they started importing Middle Eastern and African migrants), while every black nation is a shithole. The evidence is clear. There is no reason to be a civic "nationalist". If you import non-white, you import garbage.

kek

How does this support a civic nationalist you moron? Every nonwhite group constantly votes for a party that wants to demographically delete whites so they can secure more power because they know nonwhites mostly vote for them. I would rather team up with whites as a whole regardless of the 40% who would vote Hillary, as opposed to just the 10% of BASED BLACKS and BASED HISPANICS and BASED CHINKS who wouldn’t. These ones who aren’t anti white are good lads who I can team up with at the moment because the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but I would not want a nation with them due to the characteristics of their average phenotype. Once the BASED nonwhite breeds, his genes see a return to the mean and the children just vote Hillary anyway

Some scots-irish from Kentucky trying to claim roman accomplishments under the auspice of "whiteness" is every bit as bad as some nog from missisippi larping as an Egyptian.

Blacks in America on average or more deeply rooted in America than the average white American, so it was never a matter of importation.

"White people" or only a small subset of white people?
> White people are responsible to virtually every single technological or scientific advancement in the world.
No, consider pic.
> Why wouldn't you want a white only nation?
Why wouldn't you allow good non-whites in? You will still need to account for the quality of whites you let in.

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why is this stickied???

Can I be a White Nationalist Libertarian?

It’s just multiculturalism with extra steps

>Don't worry goy, when you get replaced at least it will be by based brown people with MAGA hats on.

> Every nonwhite group constantly votes for a party that wants to demographically delete whites so they can secure more power because they know nonwhites mostly vote for them
So do white people, look at the recent Swedish elections.
Also
> Every nonwhite group
What if I consider a group of non-whites who voted for Trump? This group is a contradiction to your "every" claim.
> Once the BASED nonwhite breeds, his genes see a return to the mean and the children just vote Hillary anyway
That's somewhat true, but you can still find the most right-wing nonwhites who will still be right-wing even after reverting to the mean. It is not like they revert to the mean of the whole non-whole group, they revert to the theoretical mean of their own subset of right-wing nonwhites.

What's wrong with being bad? It's all these fucking normies who think being good is some sort of virtue. Ask Japler, he knows.

savage

>"White people" or only a small subset of white people?
White people. Obviously not all white people are geniuses or something. But they've proven that they're the superior race, so why would you allow those of lesser races into your country?

>No, consider pic.
Yeah, and according to that picture almost all scientific papers are published by white counties. The only non-whites that even come close are China and India (which isn't surprising considering their billion+ populations, with such numbers you're bound to have some competent people. Whites still publish more on average and per capita though).

>Why wouldn't you allow good non-whites in? You will still need to account for the quality of whites you let in.
Because there are no real ways to know who's a "good non-white" or not. You can really only go by statistics, and whites are statistically the best race. Sure, some whites are bad too, but if you only have whites, you have the lowest risk of having bad people.

What group of non-whites voted for trump? A group voting for someone being more than 60% Even Asians voted 65% against Trump.

The fact that so many whites will vote against themselves because they're too self critical while Asians are too arrogant to realize that their next on the identity politics chopping block. Is why we need to hybridize the northern whites with the eastern Asians.

Konichiwa Fuhrer, Japler!

Have a bump OP.

pic most def relate

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>good goy, vote for Trump because he'll bring about the white ethno-state, and also help Glorious Israel!

At first I was gonna say that the U.S has been around much longer than any of those countries mentioned in the image but then again U.S has only recently started to diversify so I guess the same fate could still very well happen.

It should also say i'm a really shitty movie.

>So do white people, look at the recent Swedish elections.
Far less frequently, and they do it because they're still 90something percent white. No pressure against it and their egalitarian preferences can revert to blank slatism

>What if I consider a group of non-whites who voted for Trump? This group is a contradiction to your "every" claim.
BASED nonwhites aren't a race, or even an ethnic group.

>That's somewhat true, but you can still find the most right-wing nonwhites who will still be right-wing even after reverting to the mean.
Where are you finding these people that clone literally 100% of their individual being and genotype into their children?

>they revert to the theoretical mean of their own subset of right-wing nonwhites.
Not if they just breed within their race at large, which most people do, without considering their first principles regarding politics, which most people do because that's pretty autistic otherwise.

But what about the Asians I mean they made fucking gunpowder and their not white.

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> But they've proven that they're the superior race,
How exactly? By giving up all the power they had without a fight? More like the opposite.
> why would you allow those of lesser races into your country
Because you can allow only good subgroups of other races in.
> Because there are no real ways to know who's a "good non-white" or not.
Ask his and his family's poolitical preferences, look at how did people in his family vote, do they have criminal records, give him and members of his family some psychological political test, why exactly is it impossible?
> Yeah
You literally claimed that
> virtually every single technological or scientific advancement in the world.
So, no, not every, there are productive non-whites as well.
>What group of non-whites voted for trump?
Exactly those who voted for trump. "Non-whites who voted for Trump" is a group itself.
> BASED nonwhites aren't a race, or even an ethnic group.
Why cant I define one? Instead of using physical appearance, use political preferences to define new ethnic groups.

If this is real that is some fucking crazy statistics right their.

No, not really, just because a sub-group is worse than another sub-group doesn't mean the other group is larping for claiming to be better than niggers. All white groups are better and have accomplished more than any nigger group has. Even the worst white is better than the best black. So why would you ever let blacks in your country? A C student might not be as good as an A student, but they're still in the same class and thus group. A nog from Mississippi larping as an Egyptian would be the equivalent of a kindergartner or a special ed student saying he's on par with the A student.

>Race doesn’t automatcally make someone bad.
Or good.
Fuck stupid people from all ethnicity.

Brave.

>Not if they just breed within their race at large, which most people do, without considering their first principles regarding politics, which most people do because that's pretty autistic otherwise.
How would they do it if you dont allow left-wing non-whites into your state? And I would really be interested in why do you think right-wing nonwhites dont breed with other right-wing nonwhites more often.
>Where are you finding these people that clone literally 100% of their individual being and genotype into their children?
Kids and parents are similar enough to make political preferences heritable.

>> BASED nonwhites aren't a race, or even an ethnic group.
>Why cant I define one? Instead of using physical appearance, use political preferences to define new ethnic groups.
Their genetics aren't different enough at the level of "ethnicity" like other ethnicities are. It may be a distinct subpopulation of that ethnicity but it's too similar and reproductively conjoined with the group at large that it's almost meaningless as its own quasi-taxonomic group.

If you want to be together with whites, you will team up with a population 37% hostile to you. It seems much better to team up with pro-Trump non-whites.

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> Their genetics aren't different enough at the level of "ethnicity" like other ethnicities are.
And who says this?

What exactly do you not understand about this image?
More non-whites in your country means the less likely a conservative/small government/immigration restrictionist candidate will be elected. Not hard to understand.

That is based and redpilled, thank you for bumping my thread OP. Race doesn’t matter, people do. John James here is a trump supporter who’s expected to win the Michigan senator election. Are all blacks bad or is that just racism the left likes to promote?

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Fucking based.

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>How would they do it if you dont allow left-wing non-whites into your state?
How would right-wing nonwhites breed if I don't let them in? Doesn't concern me.

>And I would really be interested in why do you think right-wing nonwhites dont breed with other right-wing nonwhites more often.
They probably do. Not enough versus the opposite condition to affect what the mean of the ethnic group is at large, as we know by voting data for the last few hundreds years. The outlier will remain just that.

>Kids and parents are similar enough to make political preferences heritable.
Not if they breed with someone who is very different to themselves in political preference, like a BASED BLACK MAN and the average nigger

The fact that they're not reproductively isolated and you're making up a group based on data that may reflected within the population back to about 100 years, versus groups that had been reproductively isolated for thousands or tens of thousands. Don't be so autistic.

it doesn't?

it's always the kikes

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I am
Every man a king

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>Not if they breed with someone who is very different to themselves in political preference, like a BASED BLACK MAN and the average nigger
Well, you can just now allow average nigs to your state.
> you're making up a group based on data... > Don't be so autistic.
The one data, ie voting, implies impact on the real world, the other doesn't.

In all fairness, America is also a huge country, you're GOING to find a lot more shit than normal using this flag. Aside from shills and kikes deciding this one is a good one to use

based poo

>Well, you can just now allow average nigs to your state.
I don't want even the most based, not-anti-white nig in my state. I want to first and foremost maximize my reproductive interest by having my genes exist at as high a frequency as possible. No, not even BASED TYRONE has the same alleles as I do, even in regard to political preference. This excludes all nigs. Secondly, if I were to exclude by way of particular traits, based nigs would still have low IQs and high crime rates. Fuck off Sargon.

>The one data, ie voting, implies impact on the real world, the other doesn't.
Racial differences include different preferences and first principles, which translate into what suite of politics is even considered to be acceptable to vote for in the first place.

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>How exactly? By giving up all the power they had without a fight? More like the opposite
What power have they given up? And in what way? By letting subhumans into their countries? Isn't that what you civnats advocate?

>Because you can allow only good subgroups of other races in.
Those groups are still worse than all white subgroups though. So it would still be a bad idea.

>Ask his and his family's poolitical preferences, look at how did people in his family vote, do they have criminal records, give him and members of his family some psychological political test, why exactly is it impossible?
What's the point of going all that background checking if only like 0,0001% of non-whites would pass? What's the point? Lesser races are prone to violence and crime genetically, so you're taking an unnecessary risk even if you find that magical unicorn 0,0001% nigger.

>You literally claimed that
Claimed what? The picture you showed proved my point. Whites are the superior race.

>So, no, not every, there are productive non-whites as well.
Look up what virtually means. I didn't say every, but if a race produces like 99% of scientific advancements, why would you even bother having anyone else?

im not a faggot