I have to vote Democrat for the time being because I'm a poorfag who currently relies on Obamacare for some health...

Unironically my brothers wife's kids in Kansas are on food stamps and voting democrat because they want to keep the gibs.

I don't trust them to do any of that shit. Like I said, that's all fantasy. We have to go by what the party has ACTUALLY done over the past two years, with all three branches in its control. And the results have been extremely shitty. That's a fact, like it or not. I currently rely on this program, so unless the GOP gives me a realistic alternative, I'll have to vote my interests.

Jesus, do you live in Bernieland or something? Sorry brother

Yea, I'm a poorfag who made just barely too much to qualify for Obamacare. Not only could I not afford insurance, I was getting taxed to pay for nogs gibs insurance, and I was fined for not having the insurance I couldn't afford. Go fuck yourself.

Same brother

Vote Deomcrat always on local but vote Trump in 2020(maybe)

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A lot of that is by state, so you might have to blame your state legislature for being stingy with things like Medicaid money.

You just hit on why about 80% of the people voting liberal do so.
For free shit.

>A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.

You must be pretty young so I feel sorry for you being held so captive to these programs. Look friend, Obama did a lot of fucked up things in his administration. The biggest two drains being ObamaCare, and the fact that he not only didn't end operations in the Middle East, but added Russia, excuse me Syria (I always forget that it was technically a proxy war). Trump hasn't shut down operations in either thing completely, but he is making moves towards both...sorta. Like you said though, it's only been TWO years. Considering, I'd say he's a done a shit ton so far. The economy is stabilizing, I know fewer unemployed people, the media's bias is being exposed and mocked more daily, I don't have to memorize pronouns, and Maple Story had MAGA hats. Trump has been a really good right wing president so far, and I think by the end of his term, you'll have a job and be on my side about the gibs you used to depend on.

I'm voting Republican. Does this really work? I'm too fat and lazy to go vote

unironically kill yourself you stupid fucking NPC anyone that votes democrat can fucking die in a fire

It only works for Democrats. Unfortunately, Republicunts are against progress, so they still require that you use the old system.

Yes.

This is not even close to the truth

I don't think you'll be negatively affected by GOP healthcare. Obamacare is a disaster. You could even be positively affected by the GOP's plan. That said the big failing of the Trump era is not replacing Obamacare with something better.

How does this work? How do they prove everyone is only voting once?

I don't see why health insurance should be linked to employment in the first place. That's a bizarre and stupid model that should have been scrapped decades ago, and yet, it looks like it is only being reinforced. This is what I mean by lack of FUNDAMENTAL reform. You have to understand that "Well, maybe the system will improve" is not a compelling message to people who have only seen it failing during our lifetimes.

this

The Republican Party doesn't have that option. They do have absentee voting though, you can vote that way. But Republicans don't allow you to vote by text message.

source?

vote.org/absentee-ballot/ Here's the link to get an absentee ballot.

I understand the sentiment, but why doesn't the GOP simply propose a realistic healthcare reform package so that I (along with many others) CAN vote for them? I'm willing to do that, but not if it means cucking myself out of access to healthcare. Come on, man. Be realistic.

Im asking for the source on the democrats text voting user

fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/screen-shot-2016-11-03-at-11-32-31-am.png These were posted on social media. They look pretty legit.

img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2016/11/hrc-vote-text.png&w=480 This even shows someone commenting on it.

>I have to vote Democrat purely out of selfishness

Do you have an actual source? I dont see how this could possibly work, how the fuck are they going to prove people vote only once? If you cant provide an actual source im going to call bullshit

*sigh* you asked for a source, I've provided more than one. I don't know what you need that you'd consider a 'credible source'. Does Nancy Pelosi need to tell you personally that something is real before you believe it?

What is your "pre-existing condition" user?

Obamacare gibs to a bunch of spics and niggers. Trumpcare gibs to a bunch of old boomers. At least the boomers are going to die at some point.

>Why health insurance linked to employment
It happened during WWII to circumvent wage controls and no one bothered to change it.
It's not intended to be a national healthcare program.

Fake and gay.

I have a legit question, is short-term health insurance worth it? I just want to protect myself from worse case scenario.

In a sense, but that's what most people do with regard to politics. You have to fulfill certain predicate conditions to have any sort of life at all, and obviously I'm not going to cut myself off from the healthcare system voluntarily.

What's your condition annon?

>only helped lower healthcare bills for the middle class
Fuck off. Niggercare raised our premium by $200 a month for the exact same coverage.

My mom's car got nailed by a drunk driver when I was a kid, and I have had some ongoing joint and nerve pain issues since then. More of an annoyance than anything else, but as a medical matter, that's a pre-existing condition.

It's real. I heard plenty of people texted their votes for Democrats in 2016.

>voting for other people's interests
Yes, good goy. Vote to let those poor honduran refugees into your country. What are you, selfish?

Shit man, that sucks. Did your parents at least sue the fag that hit you?

you don't "have" to vote for anyone fag
everything you do is a choice

Shit man, that sucks. What kind of treatments do you need still?

I live in Michigan and made $20k last year because I only worked for a few months. I've had Medicaid this entire year and haven't paid a single dollar for 2 doctor appointments, 3 prescriptions, and a couple of fillings.

I never understood food stamps,america is the richest country in the world yet the goverment gives them gibs? Also foodstamps include a lot of food that is non essential, I cant understand how would anyone justify giving money from the goverment to people so they can buy non essential food like soft drinks,cookies and candy. Also if you are poor just buy chicken and rice,everyone can afford that.

Im just saying this because im surprised the richest country in the world says "omg people cant buy food,better give them foodstamps" when people living in countries much poorer than them dont have them.

He was actually wanted for robbery at the time and went to prison after they arrested him at the scene. I'm not sure what happened to him after that, but he didn't have any money to speak of. Anyway, my overall experience with the healthcare system thus far is that it is incredibly expensive and kind of a disaster. It should be a high-priority issue, which is why it astonishes me to see people in power doing basically nothing about it - nothing about how much it costs, for one thing. Medicare is set to eat the budget alive over the next decade. Where the fuck are the cost reforms?

>cost reforms
This. Having taxpayer funded healthcare for all won't fix the issue, it will only make everything more of a headache and waste a lot of money. The underlying cause of why healthcare is so expensive to begin with needs to be addressed.

Hm yes it's almost as if a bunch of jews control the medical industry and want to keep doctors expensive.

I'll give you one example - my left shoulder has very slow chronic synovial fluid buildup due to ongoing scar tissue irritation from the original injury. Most of the time, it's not a problem, but every couple years or so, it helps to have it aspirated, or drained with a simple needle. This isn't a complex procedure, and I've even looked into doing it myself, but if I tried to pay for it on my own, it would cost something like $12,000 at the local hospital.

It started off as a worthy idea, to give people who are truly destitute a means to buy basic food to survive.

Like anything a government touched it got corrupt and used as a political tool for votes. Now niggers and illegals abuse food stamps to buy shit they can easily afford, or sell them, and use the money for drugs

Thats why everyone in your country is 5' 2.

We of the Democratic party have a long-standing tradition of allowing you to vote as many times as you feel appropriate. If you REALLY like a candidate then you should be able to vote for them multiple times.

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>GOP has controlled everything since 2016
>having 52 out of 60 needed votes to pass is controlling

> If they actually repealed ObamaCare instead of bitching out because Trump was actually gonna do it (the cucked, complacent state of the GOP I will not argue against or excuse),
>implying
All the Republicans voted yes to repeal. You retards apparently don't understand that we need 60 to pass. McConnell already said he's going after Obamacare again after the midterms.

One way to fix it would be to rule out obesity as a pre-existing condition. We should also disqualify druggies, smokers, and alcoholics. All of this shit is perfectly preventable, and it (especially obesity) eats up a GIANT amount of tax dollars.

You didn't keep up the bipartisan shtick nearly long enough to be convincing. You quickly let it slipped and devolved into "Listen you filthy gentiles! Glump is Hitler and we need that blue wave!"

Is that supermang?

Since the age of 10 my knees would literally dislocate for no reason and I still managed to work, pay insurance, and get the surgeries I needed. Sorry about your situation but you sound like a lazy bitch and the government and tax payers dont owe you shit. Nothing in your miserable life will change as long as you sit around waiting for daddy government to wipe your ass.

>McConnell already said he's going after Obamacare again after the midterms.

Yeah, and replace it with what? That's the main problem here. I haven't seen any realistic proposals from the GOP to replace the current shitty system with anything BETTER. Going back to the old system of pre-existing conditions and greedy scammy insurance companies cutting you off after taking your premiums for years would be a disaster.

I'm not bipartisan on the specific issue of healthcare. I think access is important. If one party wants to take that away from me, then of course I'll vote against that side. Of course, I'm not retarded, so I don't want the Democrats back in the EXECUTIVE branch, handing out amnesty and expanding section 8 and other such policies via executive orders. I think Trump knows that the medical system is fucked up, but he outsourced that problem to the congressional GOP - and the congressional GOP has no solutions.

That kind of "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" Boomer-tier argument isn't going to work when the GOP is handing out all kinds of welfare to other groups, from military contractors to Hollywood executives and so on. The scam has been exposed. You need to understand that. Nobody is willing to "take one for the team" when there is no real team to speak of anymore.

>Born into an upper-middle class family
>Was libertarian while growing up
>Became socialist after realizing I would never be financially successful

Vote Jughead Singh and the NDP. Maybe he will use Sikh rituals to summon the ghost of Taliban Jack Layton to rule Canada from beyond the grave

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i very nearly didn't vote for trump because of the healthcare issue. among other things. not entirely sure how i'm going to vote in midterms

Trump/GOP = death

>realistic model for healthcare
>because keeping you alive should be my problem

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If you arent working for the state why should the state care about you? You want universal healthcare but you don't want to pitch in paying for it.

Have you ever thought about offing yourself? It might be the greatest contribution you could make to the cause.

Again, we're not in some purist libertarian system. We're in a system where big agribusiness firms get subsidies not to grow crops, where military contractors get obscene amounts of money for a shitshow like F-35, where "entertainment industry" perverts get federal tax breaks and "film credits," and on and on and on. Trump's administration still hands out "preferential" federal contracts on the basis of race and gender. That's the nature of our system. You don't win in that kind of system by surrendering the promotion of your own interests.

I think I'd rather just die than actively give power to the Democrats. You're an example of why voting laws should be changed to exclude people who are dependent on government from voting.

I'll put it this way - if "the state" can afford $40 billion for Israel, it can afford to help me see doctors in a timely manner.

I wonder how many fgts gained disability on Obamacare and ate themselves into a coma forcing them to rely on the government to survive.

have you considered killing yourself? its free and takes a huge burden (literally) off of the rest of us.

>"I eat shit, so the whole world should!"

I fucking hate these moronic, humble bragging arguments and check my flag and realize me visiting the doctor is "free".
There are some things in this world that are absolute, unjust bullshit and tolerating them doesn't make you a better person.

Faggot. I qualify for Obamacare, and need it, particularly to get glasses. I'm still voting Republicans just because of the Democrats anti-white stance. Take the free shit and use it to better yourself, and then spit in their faces.

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Israel lobbies the government and provides a return for military and shared technology investments. What do you provide the government? Do you pay taxes? If not then they have no obligation to provide for you.

A universal healthcare model like you prescribe would bankrupt the nation anyways, kill any competitive edge we have by raising taxes and lead to mass migration as the entire world would flood america for freebies.

fucking retard if you are poor you would recieve medicaid. nothing to do with Obamacare. it was there before Obamacare and it will be there after Obamacare.

OP is probably not white. Probably one of hispanic "natural conservatives."

why not just die? that's free. And I don't have to pay for you to do it.

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My policy got worse in every way since the ACA. I pay more per month, my deductible went up and my co-pays are larger.

You think you can outwit the government? That's real cute.

You think you can outwit middle class tax paying working class? Yeah you dems did it before as Americans trusted Obama to do the right thing then he screwed us. How does it feel to be part of the mob now thats all in on destroying America? You won't win as you've been exposed yourselves as even worse tyrants than the status quo.

What do you propose? The old system saved my family ~$1200 a year. The new system has done nothing for us. If your solution is "your family is well off, I'm sure you can afford to pay for the rest of us", then unironically kill yourself to save the country financial burden. I would ONLY be willing to provide healthcare to fellow white countrymen who aren't fat, gay, or drug addicts. The Republican party is moving a lot closer to that ideal than the Democratic one.

I'm not even willing to do that. I'm willing to donate to my church but not to random people I don't know, even if they are white and fit. How do I know they won't just spend the money on drugs? Also government must be compeltely removed from directing the flow of money between citizens. It's too much of a temptation for them to fall into dysgenic policies.

You're right America isnt cohesive enough to provide universal programs for nationwide problems. Just look at the lardasses begging for Obamacare in the news. Thats the kind've abuse you can see with your own eyes as a result of a universal system in America.

Lol.
Youre such an asshole.

We all know that healthcare is designed to extract all an individuals wealth. And your bullshit about employers giving you more money is a fucking joke.

I always vote for the candidate that would shit up everything. The closer we are to ww3 the closer we are to a reset and a technological revolution. Look at technologies developed during ww2 and the cold war.

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>limiting it to documented citizens only,

Lmao. You mean theyd only give it to certain groups of white people and kick your ass off to die if you were sick.

>ill need your birth cirt, ss card, 25 forms of identification, and for you to prove you are a 17th generation US citizen, while doing jumping tacks on your hands.
>ohhhh you cant do that? That sucks guess you die.

Lmao. You dumfucks are so "redpilled" on the evils of the left you forgot to be "woke" about what the right means. It aint gonna help you son. It will shove you in a mill, give you polluted water to drink, and poisonous air to breath.

Ohhh massa please I dun hauled my sixteen tonnes of coal can I haz some cumpany script massa sir?

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Let me guess. You’re a fat asshole.

Fuck you cat killer.

That was happening well before the ACA.

I remeber having health insurance. Every month Id get a notice my policy had changed (less shit covered) and every 2-4 months Id get a bump in how much it costed.

Get a job, your wasting away into nothing. You will be the first target in any revolution are government seize of rights.You must be strong or you will disappear..

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