Discussion Topics: 1) What factors will contribute to the collapse of our society? 2) Is post collapse civil war possible? 3) Territory candidates for the Ethnostate and their pros/cons.
The world as we know it will undergo extreme change in the next few decades. Its time to seriously question whether or not the United States will survive what’s to come.
The racial demographic shift will change the culture and identity of this nation beyond recognition within the next 50 years. The principles of freedom of speech, the right to bear arms and freedom of association are upheld almost exclusively by whites. When whites no longer have a voice in this democracy, these principles will erode away before our very eyes.
Our way of life is nothing but a façade, perpetuated by debt, fractional reserve banking, and the frivolous printing of fiat currency. It is my opinion that a major global financial disaster could spark the beginning of a civil war along cultural and racial lines. Imagine what 35-50% unemployment and the loss of trillions in global capital would do to the country amidst an already divided nation.
There are two main regions in the United States which hold the greatest concentration of whites, the Pacific Northwest/Midwest and the Northeast; These will likely be the candidates for the Ethnostate. I’ve laid out this map with the population, white percentage, and GDP of each of the US states within the territories.
I do not think that US will see full blown civil war, but I do think that Europe will.
Regarding your map, if you're going to settle on the north, keep in mind the coming (perhaps mini) ice age that is bound to be in full effect by 2032. Pic related.
Also forgot this: the way to deal with the disabled agriculture is with hydroponics.
Parker Jackson
Like I said, I don't think that full civil war will break out in USA, but if it did, then division by racial lines would certainly occur, with some rare exceptions for certain honorary White non-Whites.
Noah Fisher
Implying you have anything more than the flimsiest of claims lol, might makes right and if they outbreed (and they will) you're fucked. Half of your land was Mexico ffs.
Jose Edwards
You are a faggot.
Jacob Evans
B-b-b-but it was Stolen from Injuns and we gave them reservations, why do Mexican colonizers get more claim to the land then Native Americans do, senpai?
Its interesting that you bring up a civil war within Europe. I'm not very familiar with the political division between liberal and conservatives. I assume its something similar to the US where the more rural areas are whiter and more conservative.
As far as financial disaster goes, bringing up pensions/debt is important. Social security/medicare/medicaid is practically a Ponzi scheme. The younger generation is going to get nothing once this system collapses.
Grayson Miller
Civil war in Europe will be African and Middle East invaders + Traitors (useful idiots of the globalists/zionists) against Patriots. And you have your little Soros bullshit going around here too, although its some 2 years behind the timeline in relation to USA. >Social security/medicare/medicaid is practically a Ponzi scheme. Its a ponzi scheme in every sense of the term.
I think the US will see this happen: 1) Democratic party gets wrecked to shit; 2) ZOG gets slayed after general public gets primed via the China tech stealing for people to accept that Israel does the same; 3) When gen pop accepts that Israel stole a fuck load of tech from USA, then more disturbing facts about ZOG and Israel and Israel being an enemy of the USA get revealed. This leads to slaying of ZOG; 4) After ZOG is kill, the US gov starts to fix USA's racial demographic issues in a fair and just way for all involved. USA becomes 90-95% White again in the medium or long-term.
Check my next posts for some info related to this.
>Only 3 states are over 90% >Top candidate states include 30% nonwhite states Holy shit, it's really over isn't it?
Ryan Gray
1. a nation is ultimately a group of people with a shared ancestry, race, culture and history. the US is a settler nation, so it's more accepting of immigrants but even that has it's limits. the further immigrants are away from the founding culture the more difficult it is for assimilation to take place.
2.a civil war is highly possible and we're starting to see the early signs of that division. the tribes are separating. further illegal immigration, the dwindling white population and the impending unfunded liabilities crisis will all push the nation further towards division. however I see the government enacting a police state before that happens. if the GOP is in power it will be in the name of routing out communists. I think if the dems are in power it will just be full on civil war.
3. there will be no ethnostate, a civil war will be winner takes all
Easton Collins
Its not over until we say its over.
David Harris
These states were selected for strategic reasons. Port access is essential, we absolutely would need the states of Oregon and Washington.
Ethan Davis
>Portugal White ethnostate being defended by arab mutts. It's truly over
BTW The ethnostate is Canada, and spics are not allowed
Here is a rough picture of where what Ideology is usually dominate in the area in Europe. Light Blue is Center right. Red is Socialist Orange is Conservative in the old style sense. Yellow is Libertarian. Pink is center left. Dark red is communist Dark blue is Conservative libertarian
>want to make a new state >plan on taking the land for said state from the americans you know they have an army right ? pretty much your only choice for a new state now is to colonize some place in africa like the thinks are low key doing or save your shekels and become an ocean nation state or in 100-150 years be an orbital nation state .
oceans are the only place unclaimed by existing nation states (but they will be ,and china is kinda doing this with artificial islands) and theres a lot of economic niches opening up in the ocean with modern tech .
I think too many are hung up on the Westphalian state. An ethnospace or ethnoculture might be more important than the trappings of a state. The Hezbollah model for example works well inside of a weak state.
Dominic Hall
they're welcome to "Viva La Mexico" all they want in their country, why do they have to do it where I am busy going "America Fuck Yeah?"
>protip: because they are stupid
Aaron Martinez
Some climate change expectations make your ''Safe Zone'' uninhabitable, and Northern Eurasia good for farming.
Only cold places are naturally deterring against brown and black people. Nordic climate is good enough for agriculture if you are only concerned with self-sufficiency, not competing with Ukraine or Spain on the international markets.
>Only cold places are naturally deterring against brown and black people. Canada proves you wrong. Look at manitoba and winnipeg. Our temps get way colder than your pussy finnish winters, we drop to -45 sometimes.
And yet the city is projected to be majority nonwhite within a decade, and the entire province soon after
It only takes a few months for anyone to get used to the climate
Camden Perez
>we drop to -45 sometimes. Sounds like bullshit, I doubt it.
At least our refugees haven't found happiness outside of Helsinki really. Our government has tried to put them evenly all across Finland but they all fuck off to Helsinki despite of that.
Blake Lee
>Our refugees only control the major cultural and economic centres >We own the fields Wow good job dipshit
No way in hell. Neither would the military be on your side, if you look at the polls of their political support instead of receding into autistic fantasy land
Adrian Johnson
So how are you going to take over cities of people that don't want to be part of your ethnostate, galaxy brain? Any realistic attempt of ''ethnostate'' would start with a few hundred or a few thousand people moving to a place. It wouldn't be a separationist movement, but small insular communities of likeminded people that would try to stay below the radar in order to not get Waco'd.
In the imaginary world it's easy to just draw lines on a map and say, ''I want this! And that!'', but in the real world it's not quite that simple, sweetie.
Is it even possible to fight for this land then if we'll have to battle against not only the U.S military but the other fuckers around the world like NATO who are gonna stick their noses in our business?
Henry Diaz
If the military was on our side we would have a decent chance of taking a good amount of territory, but it would be bloody and the military would spend almost as much time fending off foreign invaders as they would routing out Marxists and minorities.
Honestly the best way would be to isolate liberal strongholds and starve them out.
Ryder Robinson
Islands are really fragile to rising water levels.
Ethnospace is a million times more realistic idea than a secessionist movement against the world's greatest superpower.
