>2018
>America's healthcare system is still a joke
How come America is the only first world country without universal healthcare? Should we even consider America as first world?
>2018
>America's healthcare system is still a joke
How come America is the only first world country without universal healthcare? Should we even consider America as first world?
as soon as you have a sustainable plan for 350 million people, we'll consider it.
until then, shut the fuck up about it.
Nope it's Canada that is first world in the Northern American continent.
And when it comes to the European continent it's only Denmark.
How do other countries manage it then?
>it's only Denmark.
Why?
>How do other countries manage it then?
what part of 350 million people did you not read?
That's not an argument
Denmark has free health care and free education including universities they will pay for your fucking rent too in some cases. Yes income tax is 55% but there are legal loopholes for it to fix that. If you look for highest median of income with a high GDP per capita too in a country that has no external debt and allows hookers, lately pot too, then it's only Denmark worth considering completely unironically. But get used to feeling like a dwarf they are taller than 182cm.
The problem is not to find a sustainable way for healtcare for 350 million people.
The problem is that in the US population is very skeptical of plans that benefits even those who cannot contribute (SOCIALISM!). In other parts of the world this is called solidarity btw.
forget about that shithole, they are in decay
get a fucking job and stop shilling free healthcare like it is a good thing you fucking retard.
I have a job though.
Trump is a golden age so far. But I'm worried what happens after 2024.
Because they believe in individual freedom and have millions and millions and millions and millions of niggers
You have a tiny population of health-conscious people who barely even use their healthcare, so when someone needs it it's not a problem to cover it. You also have high social trust and a population that is far less likely to abuse free gibs. We have millions of obese brown people who go to the doctor for every fucking thing and have daily heart attacks from eating mountains of refried beans for every meal. Fuck off.
>they believe in individual freedom
You can't be this dumb, right?
the "sustainability" would come in FORCING DOWN the outrageous price gouging that investor owned drug and medical companies extort from the sick, the suffering and the dying in America.
Note to Europoors: they are trying to yoke you into this "privatized" system too.
Denmark has a population of under 6 million. At certain scales things won't work like you think they will.
There is a bit more to it then just our population size as well.
>canada's healthcare
>ruled a human rights violation to not allow an alternative to their shitty government system
Is this subtle cuckposting?
Because the nigger let the top 10 insurance companies write obamacare, which has subsequently failed in most states, allowing the insurance companies to further oligopolize the healthcare market making the situation worse for everyone. They are buying drug makers and pharmacies in addition to failing hospitals now.
Op is a Super kike.
>allowing the insurance companies to further oligopolize the healthcare market making the situation worse for everyone
Spoken like a true /leftypol/ cuck
When it comes to Chadistani flags you never know.
Try Eastern Euro healthcare then.
greedy doctors/medical executives
>How come America is the only first world country without universal healthcare?
We don't have another country tasked with the defense of our country, enabling us to waste our money on such socialist programs.
>opressive commie shithole
>first world
nobody wants to be a cuck for nigger-healthcare and their litter, that's why. please attend to an orientation class in your local racist org. you are a disgrace for the movement.
Excuses. People are so good at criticising shit. You know those coding nerds mostly look through 8000 line of abstract autistic drivel to find 2 symbols that caused the glitch. I bet doing this for years fucks their brain up even worse, then this is all they do online on the rest of the places too just out of an ingrained habit.
How is Canada, a liberal state, commie? Please read some books on politics first.
^ big part of why Cuckrope can afford socialist healthcare
At least now we can make Europe pay up or build their own damn ocean-worthy navies. No shitty little speedboats count in that arena.
we have private insurance, mandatory but we are able to shop around for best insurance.
so no universal shit but it still is rapidly becoming to expensive for society.
t. putinstani churkabot
You're a fag, OP, and you know it.
>Denmark has a population of over 90 percent people of danish ancestry
Gee i wonder why. Gosh, i just cant put my finger on it
>let the top 10 insurance companies write obamacare
I will forgive this if you were born in 1999.
Forced medical insurance was dreamed up by Mitt Romney and the conservative Heritage Foundation.
thedailybeast.com
I'm not Jewish though, dumb redditor
It's a country with 300 million, many of them illegals. Each state have wildly different social and economic circumstances. A federal Universal Healthcare plan simply wouldn't work. The only way it could be done is by state by state, which wouldn't work since the tax payers in states with universal healthcare would move out due to high taxes and illegals/bludgers would move in for free healthcare.
I miss her so much, a literal 10
Good taste. What's your favourite scene of hers?
There's easily enough money for it if there is enough money for all the bankers.
>How come America is the only first world country without universal healthcare?
that's a perk of diversity
why would blacks pay to cover healthcare costs for whites, and vice versa
America has socialist healthcare, it's just voluntary membership. If you're healthy with good credit, you don't have to pay for Consuela's third abortion with your steak money.
You do realize we're the ones paying for all the innovations because your broke-ass governments won't pay market price only something just above manufacturing cost. No room to recoop R&D. Also Sweden's system is so broken that 15% in the last 4 years have bought private insurance so they don't die. Given the high fucking taxes that's pretty scary. My uncle is dead probably because they didn't do an MRI, something they would have done here in the USA regardless of insurance for unknown fainting spells. Take your broke ass government that can't pay for a military back to the stone age. O'wait, you've already hired middle eastern contractors for that because your too damn lazy to do it yourself.
May trump build a sea wall to keep the dumb euro trash out.
>MUH 350 millions
Explain why that is relevant, amerishart
Pic and link related. Gonna get banned, but worth it.
pornpics.com
Any anal scene that is not a gangbang is good.
Second favourite - her scene in Jack's teen America 5
There's always ban evasion.
>Any anal scene that is not a gangbang is good.
Wait, you don't rate her anal gangbangs?
I don't like scenes with more than one man. Too many dicks breaks the immersion :)
Nevertheless I think I have most of her vids. Very few with good quality, but should have 90%+ of her woek.
I get that. Each to his own.
>Very few with good quality, but should have 90%+ of her woek.
There are new versions of her scenes released. Some guy worked with a codec so her scenes (most of them) have now high DVD quality - much better than what was before or on streaming sites
America believes in capitalism to such an extent it applies it into things that don't abide capitalism, like healthcare.
Universal healthcare can be done at any cost, by varying the standard of care. When a state has an interest in the health of its population it can manage care in the most economically effective manner (which isn't capitalism, more like technocracy or public utility).
Tl;dr America controlled by jews who gamed healthcare into extortion putting it through capitalism and pseudo-capitalist schemes.
Health Insurance at one extreme is a simple tax, and if budgeting and case allocations are managed by a disinterested single administrator there is no difference with a completely non-capitalist system and it'll work. But of course this isn't the case, there are middlemen (((health companies))) taking from one side and breaking down the other.
There is another problem, super-rich. A very rich american can buy (even if he has to fly to Switzerland) the best care at extortionate rates. He doesn't care about and doesn't want to risk share with pleb fellow citizens - would rather see them as a cash cow for his (((health company))) shareholding.
get health insurance. it's not rocket surgery. no one wants to finance your obesity and drug habits.
>We have millions of obese brown people who go to the doctor for every fucking thing and have daily heart attacks from eating mountains of refried beans for every meal
Imagine believing this.
try getting health insurance
>How do other countries manage it then?
they don't have over 40 million obese niggers
Weak people who can't thrive within a civilization are supposed to die.
There's a reason you can't afford to stay alive: you aren't supposed to BE alive.
If you were able to get health insurance like an above average person this wouldn't be a problem for you.
But you aren't even average.
>how come america is the only first world country without universal healthcare
Obesity
The UK isn't that far behind us.
>Weak people who can't thrive within a civilization are supposed to die.
You probably think you're one of those who would surely survive 1000 years ago right?
Because I already get health care through my job. Why should I take another tax hit on top of it, to pay for those that aren't working? If you want to socialise healthcare, you have to socialise everything. Only those that work get health care provided by the state barring any mitigating circumstances. That's not the case in many places. I don't want to pay for their healthcare. I have to work for mine, so do they.
And the NHS is being bled dry
Being starved so it can be (((privatized)))*
Here is your answer.
>If you want to socialise healthcare, you have to socialise everything.
No
How many Republicans voted for Obamacare in the house and senate specifically?
I have health insurance, which it means I'm capable of prioritizing and preparing for future events.
Not sure what the year 1018 has to do with anything. Was there universal health care back then? Pretty sure everyone died young in that era.
>I don't want to pay for their healthcare. I have to work for mine, so do they.
Also what happens if you cannot work because you are already ill?
You eat shit and die because life's a bitch. Say your prayers Mario.
How so? Explain how you socialize health care without socializing the job system. Just "make people pay more"? That's your solution? Throw more tax money at it?
I know English is not your first language, but that's what "mitigating circumstances" means. Certain people should receive healthcare payed for by the government. There are some that are completely capable of working who do not. They do not deserve free health care.
because white people are trash and need to be genocided.
Perhaps it works different in other countries, but the US government is a literal slippery slope where allowing them to put a finger in a pie typically results in them shoving the whole hand in.
That being said Obongo had a golden opportunity and blew it.
You said that people who can't survive in a civilization can't survive because they weren't meant to survive and shouldn't be supported. Presumably they'd be the ones dying back when social safety nets didn't exist and life was generally harder.
It's 2018. You have to let go, user.
Univeral Healthcare is bullshit and can cause people to wait a long time for a doctor. Fuck your socialist faggotry you demonic kike.
>How so? Explain how you socialize health care without socializing the job system. Just "make people pay more"? That's your solution? Throw more tax money at it?
I don't know what you mean by "socializing the job system". In Italy healthcare is simply paid by taxes, it's treated like an infrastructure such akin to roads and the electrical grid. You also pay the ticket, everytime you go see a specialist doctor (it's like 40 euros). GP appointments are free.
Incorrect.
Credit should go where credit is due.
Are they on torrents?
No I said everyone died younger. Medical technology was primitive in 1018. What good would universal health care be when there was no actual healthcare? You aren't making sense.
You do realize we're the ones paying for all the innovations because your broke-ass governments won't pay market price only something just above manufacturing cost. No room to recoop R&D. Also Sweden's system is so broken that 15% in the last 4 years have bought private insurance so they don't die. Given the high fucking taxes that's pretty scary. My uncle is dead probably because they didn't do an MRI, something they would have done here in the USA regardless of insurance for unknown fainting spells. Take your broke ass government that can't pay for a military back to the stone age. O'wait, you've already hired middle eastern contractors for that because your too damn lazy to do it yourself.
May trump build a sea wall to keep the dumb euro trash out.
>2018
>not increasing your taxes by 20% for the government to buy you healtcare
Trust us goys we’ll spend your money better that you would
> more gubment gibs = first world
> gubment pays muh rent = first world
> gubment gibs free food = first world
> gubment pays muh tuition = first world
This thread is full of niggers with their hands out. I hope you all get sick and die from it before the US ever implements such a retarded system.
The only people in the US who don't have healthcare are literally the bottom of the barrel of our society. They are dealing drugs, on welfare or food-stamps or otherwise some kind of drain on society. Frankly, we would better off if they all died of disease.
>Universal Healthcare proponents working that cognitive dissonance so hard their frontal lobes are seizing
never a dull moment trying to get someone to think of a sustainable implementation for America's UHC system
There are on empornium, iirc.
it is a good thing, actually. It leads to more independent behavior. Only one it hurts is the mega corps as people would not be so afraid to start their own business due to losing their healthcare.
>The free market will fix it
Amerifat in denial
single payer healthcare is better than corporations fucking you in the ass with 900$ bags of saline you fucking retard
Honestly if you can't figure this shit out you are bottom of the barrel fucking stupid.
The healthcare market here is not a free market.
How can you be so retarded. It's not free if you pay for it
>The healthcare market here is not a free market.
Of course I know that. I just want americans to admit they'd rather prefer to be gouged by (((insurance))) companies than have socialized medicine that costs half as much.
This guy cant math. Explains alot.
Im not sure why america hasnt except for the fact that they havent mastered gov funded services. Look at the V.A. it is pretty fuckin impossible to get quality healthcare in the states that doesnt come with a 1200% surcharge of cost
EU pays a lot of money for R&D research, including medical.
So does the US, out of tax payer money, which is separate from your healthcare cost.
No, in other parts of the world this is called "small, homogeneous countries".
Holy shit you're retarded.
>for 350 million
>for approx. 50 million human beings and 300+ million subhuman animals
fixed it for you
You and I both know we have an obesity problem. No one wants to pay for their fatasses to get routine checkups.
>Yes, Income tax is 55%
Completely unironically.
>much loopholes
I'd rather just pay for healthcare when I need it, kthx
Whether thats by design or not... Doesnt matter this is the system that we have and idk of anyone knows this... But people arent dying on the street from dysentery or outside hospitals cuz of their refusal to treat them. In america you have 100 percent right to health care BEFORE payment. (Some diseases excluded i.e. cancer) but even then if you can prove that your destitute (i cant remember the word starts with i) your not financially obligated to pay.
Stefan Karl Stefansson had socialized health care in Iceland.... until he had cancer and then he had to have fund raisers a go fund mes for his health care. I'll keep my regular health care that most the world's wealthy flock to when they are really sick.
There is no reason to believe the US government would not implement something even more retarded then the last time they fucked around with it...less than 10 fucking years ago.
What we were promised was not what we got and it is basically always that way.
you have it, it's called Medicaid
we have no enormous military to use the money instead, because American provide the defence for free essentially.