What happened to America?

>Be a man
>Have a family
>Buy a house
>Wife stays home and raises the kids

This wasn't something that only the super rich did. This was middle class existence, and the middle class was much larger in the 50s.

What happened? Why have we made the rich richer and Americans worse off? Is it free trade? Open borders? Central Bank?

Will rent control stop predatory landlords and fix the housing crisis?

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If you cant find or afford a house, that's the urban planners fault. They want to make the US a nation of broke renters so they can justify a communist revolution and
>DEATH TO DA LANDLORD!
meme

It's capitalism. That's how it works. It has to progress towards commodifying everything.

It's been decades of this now. It's absolutely creating dissatisfaction with the system.

It was brought to heel before. It can be done again.

The irony is that they destroyed a really good living arrangement to justify their version of a good living arrangement

>They want to make the US a nation of broke renters so they can justify a communist revolution
that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. you might say that some leftists want that but the main democratic party is full on neo-liberal capitalists
its much more likely that both parties are working with businesses to turn America more into places like China and Mexico, where the worker gets paid jack shit with no benefits and lives in cramped skyscrapers

Brazil-ification.

It's the same story every time. It doesn't work. And now we're left with the niggerized mess this dipshits have left us with all of their imported consumers.

their endgame is to have government ownership of all property and you rent housing/ cars from them with money from a UBI. Everything will be tracked and rented, even ur silverware. It will be just like that one episode of Dragon-ball Z (You know, that one with the blue people)

I may not be able to afford a home, but at least I have my FitBit!

>Be me
>Be landlord in developing SE Atlanta neighborhood
>HVACs go down left and right
>Roofs need repairing left and right
>Electrical circuits need replacing
>Taxes
>Insurance
>We've been riding a market plateau and realty prices are set to 'correct' any minute costing the industry huge losses
>Tenants don't have to worry about any of it
I do think it's a bit silly to get paid just for having land, but at the end of the day each house only gives one month of rent worth of income. If the house is empty for a year, how long does it take to earn that money back that you wouldn't have to think about if you were just renting?
Favorite quote from early Atlanta millionaire William Johnson; "People rarely get rich from hard work or ingenuity. I bought four hundred acres for lumber and they ended up being downtown Atlanta."

>If you cant find or afford a house, that's the urban planners fault.
American zoning rules should be heavily modified to solve housing issue we have now.

I hope this based African can help
nationalreview.com/2018/10/housing-costs-ben-carson-zoning-land-use-reform/

What's your theory on where it all went?
If twice the people are working in the factories, and making twice the goods, where is it all going?

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>Will rent control stop predatory landlords and fix the housing crisis?
Rent Control has been tried in dozens of cities, countries and so on.
When has it ever worked?

Pretty weird how I have to wait for a woman to say yes before I jam my dick in her ass. Consent is just a social construct

If you force both parents to work you can get more taxes, and get more servants to work in daycare and extend schools to get hold of the children because parents are working full day, so it's actually pretty good deal for the government in all.

They get more taxes, and hold of your children to be brainwashed and the servant class will vote for you because their jobs depend on the system so it's a self perpetuating machine. You get to freely expand your operation to every corner of society, what is left over you can toss to the capitalists to keep them happy and secure by crushing the middle class under inflationary money and force them to borrow money on high interest.

Modern ubran planning is nothing more than social engineering for the left. it has been their most effective tool outside of propaganda

>What happened to America?
Millennials, social media, social justice, "black lives matter", and the uprising of the LGBT community happened.

they doubled the workforce after WW2 and it has been shit since

Mass importation of foreigners to drive down wages, mass inflation of currency which benefits asset owners, destruction of all white communities, deliberate government policy towards increasing rent and property values, etc

At the end of the day this is the liberalist agenda in action
The sort of childless urbanite consumer is their ideal

>Will rent control stop predatory landlords and fix the housing crisis?
No. expect landlords to be buttmad and they will begin regular inspections & evictions. If they can't get a fair market price for their property, expect them to "sell" it to their family or evict people until they get a good tenant.

>Paycheck

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Landlord here.

Why the fuck don't you just get your own place if you're not happy?nobody is forcing you to rent my apartments.

This is an American imageboard Nigel

Sounds like neoliberalism with another face

>Is it free trade? Open borders? Central Bank?
All of these.
Most countries in the world were (and are) total primitive shitholes. Free trade means raising their standard of living dramatically, but that wealth came from somewhere. It came from the middle class who were cut out of the manufacturing process and that wealth got shipped to vietnam/cambodia/indonesia/mexico/etc.

What do you do for work? Who is it you believe owes you a free place to live?

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Atlanta rents are more reasonable. Check out California for pure exploitation.

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The actual correct answer is the work of Frederick Herzberg. He was the one to conclusively prove that wages are not a motivating factor, instead they are a hygiene factor. You can't get people to work harder or better if you offer them raises.

It was always assumed that people only work for the money but they don't. Their job is a major part of their identity.

Banks.

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Whoa man, we should instead like, have, like a dude that like, bakes bread, man. Okay? And that's like his only job, right, man? And then, there's like, another dude, who like, plants seeds, man. And we just get rid of all this money, man. All this hate. And we don't need any property, man. It like belongs to nature. What's our right, maaaan?

Women wanted jobs so that they could avoid marriaige to sub-9/10 men and afford to take care of themselves.

at the end of ww2 europe was in ruins so they they bought everything from america which was great for their economy.
then europe slowly recovered so americans had to work more and longer to maintain that standard of living.

Much of Western Europe had a prosperous period after WWII as well. France and West Germany certainly did.

No no, can't you imagine a place where people live together and like, provide services for each other in exchange for their services? You kids just haven't been to college yet.

A huge part goes toward low class scum on government handouts and you get absolutely nothing for it

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This equally applies to a lot of profit motivation for large corporations. Lots of work was done in this area after the depression, investigations into what was the problem in capitalism (not even from an explicitly leftist framework). Many theories about managerial capitalistm rolled out around then that, through hundreds of executive interviews and data collection, started to argue that corporations weren't actually "profit maximizing", but rather more concerned with maintaining their market position as a large business institution, and it was the managers themselves who were strategizing in this way because they wanted to seem professional in how they managed investor expectations, and they wanted to use their ability to generate steady growth to basically climb the corporate ladder for prestige reasons more than money (since many of the managers weren't actually big equity owners). Now-a-days a lot of upper management do have more ownership in the company to try to align their interests with investors, though. But there are still a lot of the same pressures that existed back then which keep the managers from actually being cut throat on the market. The business relationships at that upper tier are very intermingled across many of the large corporations. They aren't looking to start competitive wars with each other beyond branding, which is really the staging ground for a lot of their fighting for marketshare. Back in those old investigations, the economists found that executives thought price and wage battles were a little anathema to creating good business relationships, so they favored stability and moderate collusion.

>When has it ever worked?
Every time. Everywhere it has been implemented, homelessness and government dependency has risen. It has been the second most successful policy behind the FDR's New Deal.

but now that they fully recovered they don't need to buy as much from the us because they can produce almost everything themselves

The majority of those "scum" getting government money are old people receiving social security checks and Medicare.

Is this a parody account or just another leftist wannabe 'intellectual'? It's hard to tell.

fucking disgusting the paragraph is a character assassination

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We need to replace all taxes with a single tax on land values.

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and the reason for it beeing huge is that due to government programs, people are no longer incentivised to have children. So the ratio of workers to old people got fucked.

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REEE WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR THINGS REEEEEEEE

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everything is now organized to keep that obsolete system going

the system didn't work too well for most people before ww2 and it hasn't worked well for most from 25 years after ww2

>Women force their way into the workforce
>Supply of labor doubles overnight
>why is our labour worth half what it used to be REEEEEEEEE

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What do you mean by "system"
Do you mean like FDR and the new deal?
Do you mean capitalism?
What do you mean?

Working-class, lad, working-class, the middle-class own the business or profession they work in. The fact you use middle-class shows you've bought the meme and are part of the problem.

I dunno, big corporations making all the decisions for their own self interests i guess

I have no sympathy for you Atlanta fags. Lol pick a less shit city retard.

tried trickle down
union busting
dumb down
nafta
war ect and the old ways are still failing

have to control the rest of the world so we can be free

wow like fuck private property and shit i'm a #BernOut now

Nothing happened.

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When has it failed?

but not to include primary house. investment houses and commercial only

It's not Capitalism. Socialists oppress and impoverish entire countries and somehow convince retarded liberals that it's CAPITALISM CAPITALISM CAPITALISM! Waaaaahhhhhh! Remove your head from your ass and you'll understand socialist liberals (anything left) DO NOT protect your personal property they control it and destroy it. Stop parroting 'CAPITALISM'

>Implying you can’t be an entrepreneur and landlord at the same time
Kys, nigger

Move to BFE. Land is cheap but there's no jobs.

Great advice, Shlomo.

No exemptions. Any exemptions will be turned into a mile-wide loophole. The land value tax has been tried, and taxing the land underneath primary-residences works fine and does not result in old people and children starving to death.

youtube.com/watch?v=jFQgOy-5Tng

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax

americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/02/henry-georges-land-value-tax-idea-whose-time-come/

youtube.com/watch?v=UdE1umKfyJA

youtube.com/watch?v=JkXEM7fgGDc

youtube.com/watch?v=TpqtfMraJvU

“Progress and Poverty” full audio book: librivox.org/progress-and-poverty-by-henry-george/

Not real capitalism bzzzzt

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I wait for the day when people work all their for basic food and shelter and call it freedom

>not REEEAAL capitalism
commie tier argument

I wait for the day when people work all their life for basic food and shelter and call it freedom

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>(((rent control)))

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Would you rather have unelected bureaucrats telling the corporations what decisions they should be making?
What are you proposing as an alternative?

if a person derives no value from the land, there is no reason to tax it. land taxes only make sense in a historical sense when a person's income was directly attributed to the land (crops, livestock, lumber, mining, etc...). i cant sustain myself on a suburban 0.25 acre plot, therefore, no reason to tax it since my income doesnt come from it.

The government is indeed quite corrupt and evil. The first step is educating people.

I pay the government every year to live in their country too. We need to do something about that.

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shelter was about 20% of you income in 1970
now it's around 40%
60% coming soon

a corporate plantation economy

>unelected bureaucrats?
sure why not

I don't remember signing up to save free market capitalism at any cost

This is all a product of our ideology of indefinite compound growth. We told ourselves that we must pursue growth in population, debt, and GDP at all costs. The system would collapse if the growth mandate were not achieved.

Yeah, this, and more taxes to support minorities!

well they own the elected ones and that's what got us here

The current housing situation is primarily because a vast majority of boomers decided to play real estate moguls.

inb4 some boomer fuck says "you would have done the same thing". No, we wouldn't sacrifice our childrens futures for short term monetary gain. Nor did any generation before yours.

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What do you mean tried trickledown. Nobody on the right proposed trickledown economics, they suggested that people who earn their money, keep their money. Rich people have earned their money as a result of voluntary transactions, which make both parties better off, otherwise they wouldn't have engaged in the transaction in the first place. The government collects their taxes through gunpoint, and people respond to incentives. The motivation Reagan had was that he only did a few movies a year, because the later movie profits were taxed so heavily it wasn't worth it. The same can be said for surgeons who got paid per operation. The first surgery they do per year they keep 90% of the money, they were getting 30%, as under Carter the top tax rate was 70% of your income. That means the best heart surgeon in the country isn't working even though he can be, because those later operations aren't worth it.
As for union busting, let's look at the UAW, the stronger union still in the US. How did the presence of that Union in General Motors help the American People? It seems to me like it resulted in a non-competitive automative industry, because they were being paid 3 times as much as Asian competitors, with nothing to show for it, and so the American taxpayers ended up footing the bill for this union through the 2008 Auto Bailouts

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The person occupying the land is deriving benefit from community improvements, such as roads, utilities, law enforcemnt and military defense. Therefore they should pay a land value tax.

> i cant sustain myself on a suburban 0.25 acre plot, therefore, no reason to tax it since my income doesnt come from it.
You sustain yourself from that small suburban plot by virtue of it's proximity to a prosperous commercial center where you have many opportunities to earn income.

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That's where you're wrong bucko

bla bla bullshit
the banks and federal reserve is a liberal/commie

I can assure you that many rich people made their money through means that conferred benefits to absolutely no one other than themselves. The private equity and hedge fund guys are running rough shot over the economy with leverage strategies (related to housing bubbles and debt inflation), brutal cost-cutting (related to the union busting and wage stagnation), and their carried interest tax scheme. Trust me, I know these people, they are absolutely ruthless and don't give a fuck about you, me, or the long-term health of our economy or society. You sound so silly defending these people, they are laughing all the way to the bank.

It's because of women's liberation. They took half the jobs, and then they voted to open the borders. Now men must compete for jobs with women and random aliens, which means employers don't have to pay as much. The quality of the work done decreases, but now more of the consumers are stupid so they buy the goods anyway. Women and aliens aren't very good at starting new industry, so the number of jobs doesn't increase to keep up. Available land decreases steadily as more aliens move in, making housing costs go up. That's why even though I make an "upper middle class" income for my area, I can't afford to buy a house without taking out a 20 year loan, which I would be stupid to do because it is unlikely that my job won't be outsourced before 20 years.

I didn't talk about the banks or the federal reserve.
Nor did you in your original post. You're not refuting anything I am saying, just bringing up irrelevant material

it's the rich and powerful that decide policy in their own interests.
to believe the citizens have any say is delusional

libertarian fantasy land

And they're forcing global homo down our throats.

You are paying to live on their property. This dimwit needs to be culled.

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Firstly, Private Equity and hedgefunds aren't bad. There are plenty of companies that aren't public, that provide useful goods and services. Investors being private isn't necessarily a bad thing, because they tend to be working on a longer time horizon. They are less concerned with quarter to quarter profits and losses.
There's money in housing, and housing bubbles the solution isn't higher tax rates, but the cutting of housing regulation and letting supply meet with demand, instead of restricting the supply through rules that don't help or protect people.
Brutal cost cutting? When I think private equity I think silicon valley companies, and as far as I understand it most of the employees in those companies make 6 figures. Companies funded by private equity tend to have highly paid workforces.

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Government intervention made rent more expensive. Pretty funny how you can always trace these problems back to some dumb government program

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Life long rent is only a problem in cities or for degenrates.

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It works than any other system.
It turned a barren rock like Hong Kong into a rich city.