NYT: Anatomy Does *NOT* Determine Gender

(((Experts)))
If it has a penis, and identifies as a woman, it goes in the oven.
If it has a vagina, lops off it’s tits and identifies as a man, it goes in the oven.
Enough coddling the mental illness, it needs to be eradicated before it metastasizes.

>(((NYT)))

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>democrats
>experts
>NPCS
>NYT

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>Dr, Faggot of the Center for Cocksucking Fucktards has said there is in fact no scientific data to support the idea faggotry is a mental illness

>We're better off finding ways to fix people in early childhood development so they more likely present like their biological sex
Fixing hormone issues in kids will become transphobic unless it makes them trans

>(((Experts)))

>Claim gender and sex are different
>use the two terms interchangeably
What did they mean by this?

>experts say
What experts? And why? And what do they mean?
This is so intellectual deficient it has no meaning.
XX and XY. Period. A tomboy isn’t a man and a sissy isn’t a woman. Not all women need to be feminine, it’s just the most common feature of women, and is a natural result of both evolutionary genetics and culture. Not all men need to be masculine, it’s just the most common feature of men, and is a natural result of both evolutionary genetics and culture.

How exactly does someone born with a penis go about "feeling" like a woman? What does that actually mean? And how does someone born with a vagina go about "feeling" like a man? What does it mean to "feel" like a man? Is it just a matter of being drawn toward traditional gender stereotypes? I thought those gender stereotypes were invalid societal constructs... but now we're supposed to embrace them?

And how can anyone say they are in the "wrong body"? They only have a single frame of reference, their own body, to make that claim. They've never been in what they consider to be the "right body", so without any comparing and contrasting, how can they make a valid determination of "right" and "wrong" bodies? With only a single frame of reference, isn't it equally as likely that their feeling of being in the wrong body is exactly what it feels like to be in the right body?

This. I'm so sick of all this acceptance bullshit.

There are only two genders.

We are literally playing word games to appease profoundly dysfunctional humans that biology don't real.

It’s a mental illness. They just feel “wrong” and attribute that to their body.
I wouldn’t even mind it if there wasn’t all this blush it about it not being a mental illness.
Same for faggotry. If there was honesty in that it’s just a fetish by pleasure-obsessed morons, I wouldn’t mind it. But all this bullshit about it being some natural opposite to heterosexuality is so stupid and dishonest.

>Dr. Safer, of the Transgender Surgery Center
Oh I’m laffin

It would be nice if medical professionals would just buckle the fuck down and label it what it is, instead of folding to political pressure and changing it from a mental illness to something else.

The body is fine. The mind is broken. When people with multiple personalities are diagnosed, we don't indulge their sickness and tell them the problem is they don't have enough bodies, so why the fuck are we supposed to pretend a man can magically be a woman if he like long hair and dresses?

What the fuck? I thought gender and sex were different things now. This article makes them the same again?

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Scientists studying gender.....will work for grant

Seriously, there are two, whats to study?

The APA was basically terrorized into changing their diagnostic manual.

Everyone involved in this argument is fucking stupid
Gender is a social construct. Kill yourself.
SEXUALITY is the term you want.

FUCKING LEARN BASIC ENGLISH
HOLY FUCK YOURE ALL FUCKING STUPID

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What a bunch of hogwash

>RACE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT.
>CONTINENT OF ORIGIN IS WHAT YOU MEAN.

>NO OF COURSE WE AREN'T PLAYING WORD GAMES YOU RETARDED BIGOT.

If gender is a social construct, why do you need to cut your physical dick off to "transition" genders? If gender doesn't really exist, doesn't that make transitioning meaningless?

>(((experts)))
who are these experts?
where has any previously published work related to their current research been?
when was it published?
what makes them a credible and established source?
does what they say sound reasonable based upon all this? describe why.

modern journalism is a fucking joke. these faggots wouldn't last a day in the pursuit of actual truth

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>X is a social construct
So?

>United States Professional Association of Transgender Health
They are not doing a very good job since all of their patients are mentally ill

Getting really tired of these so called (((experts)))
vox.com/2018/10/22/18009020/transgender-children-teens-transition-detransition-puberty-blocking-medication

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>if you cure them, you're out of a job.

>GENDER IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
>I WAS BORN A DIFFERENT SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
>I MUST GET SOCIAL CONSTRUCT REASSIGNMENT SURGERY YOU BIGOT

kek

big surprise

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The New York Fuckin'Times? Expert? Lying Bozos ! If you are born with a dick....You ARE a MALE ! If you lop said dick off, you are a mentally impaired male .Nobody cares what Sarah Jeong sez.

>what do you mean i have prostate cancer you fucking bigot!?

Isn't there a difference between gender and biological sex characteristics? Isn't gender something that can be manipulated by someting malleable as social mores? Biological sex has to be manipulated by surgical means, doesn't it? I think people are just being bamboozled by a difference in terminology due to the inability of the American educational system to teach people how to think beyond a headline.

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Simple
Times thinks this gives more credence to trans insanity
It really strips it from the Times

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"Experts say".......not even science expert OP. You're a fucking faggot posting fake news.

It's been a long day, but I laughed at this. That was what motivated me to post this thread, seeing that ridiculous "president of the United States Professional Association of Transgender Health" part. Got to be fucking kidding me, this country.

OP HERE I DIDN'T MEAN TO BLACKPILL ANYONE, IT WAS JUST A RIDICULOUS STORY WORTHY OF RIDICULE.

IN REAL LIFE ALMOST NO ONE BELIEVES THIS SHIT, IT IS 100% URBAN LIBERAL ENCLAVES.

I ask this to people sometimes. Friend's wife was talking about it when we were chatting and I presented that question, you could tell people don't ever ask themselves this but when I said it they immediately went to thinking mode and sort of gave up trying to argue it. This is honestly the best way to combat it, just ask what does it feel like to be the opposite sex and how would you describe what it is to be your sex. I couldn't describe what being a man is like even though I am one, I can only explain my specific instance of it.

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>Isn't there a difference between gender and biological sex characteristics?
No, how could there be? You are your body.

That would be the case if it weren’t for mass immigration. The liberals knew the long-term demographic trends weren’t on their side, so they passed the 1965 immigration act to tip the scales back in their favor.

No, it's
>Illegals can't stop cranking out anchor babies
>Country goes to shit

Dont get fucking uppity with me because youre a fucking retard that calls every motor vehicle a car or every container in your kitchen a pot or a jar because you have the vocabulary of special ed student with down syndrome.

okay ill explain it to you because you are fucking stupid i guess
i figured maybe you were at least 8 years old but I guess not

Sex is what your brain and body develop as.
It is the same in 99.99% of all cases.
Now 90% of that 0.01% is people who's bodies arent correct and they have different chromosomes or varying developments of their genitals which we call intersex.

The other 10% of that 0.01% is transsexuals who are born with a feminized brain and develop a male body (or visa versa) due to unknown reasons with the most current theory being that abnormal developments occurred due to incredibly rare hormonal baths that were different then normal fetal development.

Gender means nothing.
Today I feel like a boy.
Today I feel like a girl.
Today I wore a girl shirt and boy pants so call me Stevia.
Today I have a boyhaircut and dyed my hair purple so that means Im not Carlozstul demon of the underworld.
It means nothing. Its based on nothing. No scientific basis. No biology. Nothing. Cultural. PC bullshit.
Its literally "Im a gay faggot look at me WHEE xD penguin of doom" condensed to one word: Gender.

Congrats on now understanding 4th grade science.

thats literally what all 3 million of those fucking faggots are doing pretending like 1% of the entire united states is born with a fucking fetal development disorder.
fucking nigger please
>nah dude lyke omg u bigot
>75 million people are actually born with a fetal development disorder

OH OKAY

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>experts say
Lie. Every expert in every country in all of history says that trannies are not real.

This is the most retarded shit I've ever had the misfortune of reading. Kill yourself you flaming homo.

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2+2=5
-the new york times

reject reality as offensive
the neoliberal media will decide for you what is and isnt

"experts"

>(((experts)))

>The other 10% of that 0.01% is transsexuals who are born with a feminized brain and develop a male body (or visa versa)
That doesn't seem possible unless all their other organs are fucked up too, and I don't think that's the case. A lot of trannies have autism, which is widely believed to make your brain more masculine than normal.

Allow me to refute their well thought out arguments and highly paid experts with but a single word:

(((Experts)))

We've officially gone full retard as a society when a child knows more than "experts"

You obviously didn't read beyond my first sentence. You are kinda proving my point.

>feminized brain
A brain which contains the incorrect chromosomes, but displays certain characteristics of male or female, isn't a male or female brain, it is a malfunctioning one. No actual female or male brain comfortable in their body, has ever functioned as such a brain does, therefore the instance of a transexual that they are male or female is a guess they couldn't possibly ever actually know.

They should be put on anti-psychotics along with homosexuals and reclassified as a mental illness, so real research can be done with modern technology on prevention or cure.

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The premise of this article is correct. Gender does not correlate with sexual anatomy 100% of the time, and gender identity is hard-coded at birth. Gender identity disorders that lead to catastrophic behaviour that we see with trannies are very much real and that's why they have such high suicide rates. The problem lies in how society treats it as if it isn't a mental disorder, and indulges in their delusions to the point of giving children hormones and chopping off genitals. Until we stop deluding ourselves, it's best for everyone to think of gender identity and sex as synonymous.

I keep hoping one day I'll wake up to news that the NYT got a Charlie Hebdo type visit from some practitioners of the religion of peace.

The whole drugging prepubescent kids to prevent their bodies from hitting puberty is a pretty fucking strong justification for outright dismissal of anything and everything the left has to offer on literally any subject...

Yep, it's about time men could call themselves women and absolutely destroy actually women in every single benchmark. Like that MMA match where the girl (male) shattered that one chick's skull. Or pic related, all three of them are totally women, so it's okay that they guy took the gold in a women's cycling competition. I'm looking forward to men taking advantage of affirmative action programs created for women in the future. Protip, want an easier time getting into the college of your choice? Just say you're black and female. Words don't actually mean anything anymore so it's okay.

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They've seriously miscalculated with that though. The majority is gonna support throwing fags off buildings and killing abortion doctors by the time they're done

I guess in the sense that a president of a transgender institution would say "gender," no, because he's referring to a feeling in the mind, which of course has some distance from anatomy.

It's not what anyone else means by that though.

>"The idea that a person's sex is determined by their anatomy at birth is not true, and we've known that it's not true for decades," ...
Alright. Alright. ALRIGHT.

SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME.
HOW IS IT THAT A LEFTIST CAN REASON THAT A BABY BORN WITH A DICK IS NOT A MAN?

I just don't get it. I just don't get it!

They use sex and gender interchangeably in the article. They're not worth giving the benefit of the doubt at this point, since they won't extend anything close to the same for you.

>(((experts)))
Tho they have a point. Sex is determined by your chromosomes. Period. You can get your dick cut off or have a sausage stuck to your vagina, but it won't change your sex.

Gender=Sex.

One thing is for sure, I'm never going to accept their definition, and I'm never going to stop mocking them for being idiots.

Either this is a fad that goes away like bell-bottom jeans, or it sticks around and we have to kill each other because they won't leave our kids alone.

>hurr durr im fucking dumb so ill call u gay cause big words hurt my feelings :(
Please go join the mexican pride parade where you can be amongst people whose biggest life accomplishment is playing final fantasy irl

I would imagine if the hormone theory is correct that it would just result in normal development, just with mixed brain and body development of different sexes. I would think that being the case would also invalidate all the transtrender faggots as well because nobody seems to have any mixed characteristics of both sexes.

It just seems to be full development of the given sex body wise. Maybe the brain hormonal bath could be off and that could be the results in the autism, or perhaps the over masculinization in some cases and feminization in others, if those transtrender faggots were to have any hope of having any validity.

For example: where you see in mtfs, there are distinct groups of extremely masculine navy seals mtfs and you see some wimpy effeminiate boys and extremely masculine ftms and tumblr soft boy ftms. But I that could just be an environmental effect from how they were treated and how they dealt with that stress. It definitely does seem to be obvious stereotypes.

I suppose that could be a third possibility with a brain different then both neurotypical sexes, but I would think its probably unlikely that youd get a normal not retarded person or a savant or something out of such a weird scenario.

I definitely think most of these people are clearly just attention whores with delusions of some sort and have a clear mental illness since they lack the clear and obvious symptom of gender dysphoria and often take extremely offensive actions that are completely conflicting with a diagnosis of gender dysphoria.

Actual transsexuals dont respond to psych meds.
I do remember a study with 70 or so mtfs given testosterone to treat them and everyone became hyperviolent way beyond normal Test response.

who are these experts?

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it's newspeak, we've gone full Orwell.

Read how stupid that article is.

The expert works at a Transgender ward of a health system and is President of an advocacy association.

It's bullshit.

Ha ha holy fuck, JEWISH MEME DOCTOR

yeah, Mexicans of all types are Catholic. once they are in control and don't need the Dems they will shift in a big way.

You might be the retard here. Read the article in the OP.

> The idea that a person's sex is determined by their anatomy at birth is not true
>sex, not gender

That's the opposite of what they've been screeching for the past two years...

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"Gender" was nothing more than the politically correct version of "sex" only a decade ago. I remember feminists scolding me for saying sex instead of gender back then...
Whether that was part of the plan to make gender (and, in turn, sex) completely meaningless, or just another case of leftists being inconsistent in their beliefs, is beyond me.

The stupid just builds up every time man. I want off this ride!

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There are two sexes, male and wamen. Only faggots use the term "gender".

>Whether that was part of the plan to make gender (and, in turn, sex) completely meaningless, or just another case of leftists being inconsistent in their beliefs, is beyond me.
This is actually pretty interesting to think about. It's incredibly predictable where their beliefs progress to, and we've been calling them out on it for years. Ironically, the left accuses us of using slippery slope arguments. Keep in mind that it was only ten years ago that Hillary and Obama were against gay marriage, and they would have flipped the fuck out if you had suggested that they would now be arguing for blocking the hormones of children so they couldn't hit puberty...

Go figure. The guy in charge of turning dudes into ex-dudes doesn’t believe that dudes are dudes unless they say they are. Who would’ve thought the guy getting rich cutting off dicks might have a different interpretation of what decides gender.

(((experts)))

Oh. Now I get it. We need to redefine the basis of human understanding to suit the .01 percent of people that are definitely, without a doubt, not mentally ill. It all makes sense now.