Communism will win!

Everywhere that was not a cia strawman
because porn is degenerate and communism is wholesome :^)
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This thread is yet more proof that socialists are total retards.

Even the oligarchic capitalism with elements of feudalism we have here treats me much better than Soviet-style socialism would. And even that we have mainly due to the Soviet legacy.

In fact, socialism has only two modes of functioning - it's either nightmarish rule of terror (eg, USSR till 1953), or hypocritical state capitalism that is corrupt to the bone (USSR after 1953). Though the former is corrupt as well, no doubt about that.

Can I own my own property under communism?

Fuck commies. Communism ruins everything.

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a friend of mine, his mother was born in the USSR in 1960 and lived there untill it collapsed. She missess it. Her stories, she says nobody had to worry about food or shelter or medical care, you just had to go to work and you were taken care of. Much better than the modern era where even the employed are becoming homeless.

Yeah but are you or your parents capitalists? If so then the fact its treating you personally better means nothing.

>USSR till 1953
>nightmarish rule of terror
This just has no evidence behind it. Capitalism and socialism are both naturally terroristic to their enemies (capitalism is far more though). That's just the way things have to be. You had more freedom in the USSR under Stalin than you do in modern capitalist states however.

You can own personal property, not private property (means of production, land ect).

Personal property but not private property.

How to tell the difference between the two? jefferson sums it up nicely. Things you require the state to enforce your ownership of, you can not own in communism, those things are owned by the people, because you do not even own them now. If you have land and pay a property tax, you are actually not the owner of that land, the state is, the tax is what lets you use it as you want. In socialism, the people ARE the state, and so the states land is the peoples land, not your land, not any more than anyone else that is.

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Make place for a THIRD way.

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I think you are a chinese NPC. Go for a walk and then come back and explain to me why the air tastes like Iphone 8's.

"I'm sure you'll menstruate again one day"

now THERES some totalitarian rule I can get behind!

fasism is just what nervious capitalists push when they realize people might start trying to chop off their heads soon. It placates the peoples desire for change, but instead of actually making the guilty pay for their crimes they get slapped on the wrist and 'managed' by the state. Also some cultural mythos to try and build unity is created to distract people away from the criminals criminality, similar to how liberals use current idpol to protect themselves. Fascism is just extra spooky capitalism.

The real different thing was when people just over 100 years ago decided the long chain of ownership passing from class to class and group to group over history needed to end, and everyone should own it jointly.

A good rule of thumb in life is that the middle ground or the third way is usually the best, the balance between two extremes.

Hitler knew this, you have to have a powerful state but you have to have individual freedom as well.

Heil! youtube.com/watch?v=bUR_dsXy0Io

Communism will win in the third world, national socialism is on the rise in Germany and western Europe.

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Verdedig uw volk en kies voor het NATIONAAL-SOCIALISME.

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The west will become fascist after the next capitalist crisis, or the one after that for sure. There is too much red scare propaganda for most people to even realize they could try socialism currently.

> nobody had to worry about food or shelter or medical care
hahahah you dumb fucking nigger

imagine thinking the actual ideology of freedom, equality and fraternity is an antonym of freedom
how much cold war crapitalist propaganda do you retards gobble down on a daily basis?

>literal russian who lived 30 years in the ussr is wrong but what the cia told me is right

Nooit meer communisme en Marxisme.

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She may be cute, but she's a fucking Stalinist/Maoist. Tankies get the bullet too.

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You commies are deluded af. Every single iteration of actualized communism has turned into a dictatorship

Only NATIONAL SOCIALISM can beat communism.

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good luck im behind 7 bunkers

>too much red scare propaganda

explain the holodomor then.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

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>muh 100 gorillion
Didnt happen. Stalin was a nice man who never committed a single crime. If anything did happen it was surely the work of kulaks or revisionists.

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Alright boys. This guy is confirmed b8.

Deep down they know communism would cure their gay, rehabilitate their drug addiction, and provide them wholesome jobs for a greater purpose.

Please start a "revolution" so we can wipe you judeo-commie larpers out for sure.

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>nobody had to worry
Fuck off, maybe some people are satisfied with living in an asbestos riddled commie block and getting paid with vodka and potatoes while living in a totalitarian nightmare of anti freedom state but you will find some retards in every regime
Eastern Germany/Europe is miles behind the west economy wise and only after massive investments from the ebil capitalist west thing are getting somewhat better

>Jow Forums doubts the holocaust but eats up holodomor even though the same propaganda agencies produced each story.

I have friends who lived under soviet control. The uniform opinion is that it was miserable and the only things to do were work and drink. "Election" days were special because regular joes got a bag of oranges they couldn't otherwise get unless they were in the party. Your system sucks donkey cock. The only reason you advocate for it is because you're a lazy piece of shit who has fantasies that you'll be in the party after the revolution.

Why don't we just get rid of property taxes, then? Problem solved. My land is my land.

>the west uses the only non destroyed industrial power after the war (the US) to rapidly build up its allied nations and do everything it can to sabotage the recovery of the second world, then decades later claims that because the first world is ahead its proof socialism doesnt work.

If you look at every single socialist state to ever exist the rate of productivity and quality of life increase over decades is always a rapid success. If not for the US the second world would have outpaced the capitalist nations, easily.

>the only system which requires everyone work or they get thrown into prison and must work there, is for people who are lazy and dont want to work!
cognitive dissonance

"Capitalist crises" amount to people taking hair cuts on their 401ks. If I have to choose between globohomo usurous capitalism and communism, I'll take globohomo.

The soviet union only ever existed because the USA launched the largest humanitarian effort in human history in the 1920's. Communism can only survive on handouts and by utilizing thier cheap forced labor to sell thier shitty products in foreign markets.

because you cant own land with out state laws saying you own it backed up by state violence. ancaps are retarded for believing everyone will just respect each others claims.

of course the end goal of communism is statelessness so the closest you can come to your idea of simply having land to live on and do what you want is reached through socialism.

>Everywhere that was not a cia strawman

THE GLOW IN THE DARKS HAVE GOT EM!

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thats what they thought about north korea, after the ussr collapsed and it had no trading partners people started starving, and instead of sending help they just got embargoed and left to collapse.
But they didnt collapse, and now they have nukes.

Obvious b8 nigger.

If i push it hard enough it becomes true :^)

dude, Fuck you

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>which they paid for by loaning out cheap slave labour to neighboring countries and selling crappy products on the free market.

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>laborers who go to other countries to work, see what life is like in capitalism, and return home to best korea
Observe this documentary
youtube.com/watch?v=ktE_3PrJZO0

I see what you did there.

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Everything about your post is wrong.
If you were capable of fully conceptualizing how wrong it is, you would die from the shame of having said it.

Looks like a face painted gook forcing a smile in dress up for her faggot jew boyfriend who found a local park to make it look like they are in the jungle with Charlie but I could be wrong pictures are deceptive sometimes

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>Marxist socialism
>utopian
wat
>utopian means rational
lmao what kind of retard would even say that.

Marxist socialism is scientific, it's based on reality.

the purposefully spread of retarded missinformation in this thread is really worthy of a single digit IQer

The holodomor was actively covered up, retard

Going great for Venezuela.
WOW gold selling capital of South America.

In all honesty, if the entire third world went commie we'd be able to colonize them again after a couple of decades of purges and mass starvation depopulate their nations.

This is unironically our commie candidate for president (Fernando Haddad).

>states provide services

Newsflash, dumbfuck, the state protects my movable property too. Guess a good commie like you can't really own anything, better redistribute all of the nice stuff your parents bought you.

She is ready to fight for her right to ride big white cocks

youtube.com/watch?v=C_HIKItDJ1U

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I'm sure the DPRK government threatening their families has nothing to do with it.

The only good thing about communists is that after they take power they purge their own party. Even the most leftist commies aren't safe. No one has killed more leftists than the commies.

explain how Venezuela is under communism.

This looks like a scene from a pseudo mythical couple of commies fighting the Japs in WW2 in the end I think he is wounded and she pulls a grenade out of his jacket and they blow them selves up together with some Japs

Well, to be fair, it isn't REAL communism. If it was, it would be working, right, comrade?

>he live in San Diego
>California
>that flag

Hello spic

>this retarded strawman
now try to make a proper argument.

no its that they know deep down that they need to die and know communism would purge them first

She's a qt, warbride/10

Argue with a comrade? Never! We must be United against these capitalist pigs with their sufficient amounts of food. Come, comrade, share this potato with me, it's the last one for 100 miles.

>Marxism is scientific
Wait what

Venezuelan Socialist Party is in power.
Socialism is the interim step that leads to communism, in theory.

"Socialism" was never a fully developed economical doctrine - it was always intended by Marx to lead to Communism - totality of which has never been achieved.

Also, Venezuela is currently a shithole because they voted for the socialist party, who, surprise surprise, started clamping down on "Their People" when they started complaining that the economy was going down the toilet due to capital flight.

You start nationalizing private companies without compensation and what a surprise - they leave.

No parts for GM Venezuela.

No sympathy from those of us who observe the patterns that repeat down history.

Socialism doesn't fucking work.
It has been tried many times before, and this is the inevitable result - authoritarian shitholes.

Funny because these days all the mega-corporations seem to be shilling your ideology. Wonder what that means??

"Scientific" marxism basically means economic activity is pre-planned to maximum effect. Needless to say, they plan wrong and are unable to course correct.

right.
now explain how Venezuela is under communism.

>non answer
couldnt've expected any less.
kill yourself.

No thanks, learned the hard way.

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Marxism is scientifically calculated to be the fastest way to destroy a country's economy.

They aren't.

In the same way that a man who tries and fails to erect a tent is not under a tent.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/index.htm

Gee, this is sure to be an unbiased source that isn't full of leftie wishful thinking horseshit.

Nope, not at all.

>this false equivalence
explain how they "tried to" instill communism

>constantly blaming your ideology’s failures on the CIA

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That's funny user,but the food that you buy also has tax on it.Everything does,so by your logic you don't own anything.

biased? are you legitimately retarded?
it's the explanation of Marxist socialism, from the actual fucking creator of Marxist socialism.
imagine being this stupid.

There’s nothing filipinos love more then slaughtering communists lol try it

By electing "The Socialist Party of Venezuela"

If you claim to be a supporter of any Marxist doctrine and don't understand that Socialism is intended as a stepping stone to communism, then you do not understand the political ideology you claim to support.

These people are often called the "footsoldiers of the revolution" - or more accurately "useful idiots"

"United Soviet SOCIALIST Republic" ring a bell?

And your'e right, my analogy is false, because there is a way to set up a tent properly.

There is no way to set up communism properly, because it is a stupid idea.

>LARP
>the post
Sure bucko Kys