Is it okay to breed with a masculine female in Hope of passing on more masculine traits to a potential son. Would this be effective to masculinize our race?
Also what other qualities would be useful if you were going to make an enclosed community focused on breeding the best offspring.
If I was a billionaire....
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>okay to breed with a masculine female
You're just going to have manly daughters. Lift weights, eat well, and get good sleep.
>what other qualities would be useful if you were going to make an enclosed community
Read some oldschool books on eugenics. It's one of the only legitimate fields in sociology.
I feel like whites typically breed for soft features. They create docile offspring, which are good traits for the in group, homogeneous community, but it doesn't work out well in a multicultural community. If white men understood this and chose women slightly more masculine than average, and not specifically masculine aesthetics, but mind set, discipline , etc. We could shift the tide to a more masculine culture leading us back to patriarchy.
>You're just going to have manly daughters. Lift weights, eat well, and get good sleep.
Is this necessarily bad? Look at modern white women, there is much room for improvement.
read up on cognitive biases that you learned from your elders so you can raise
an emotionally secure kid with a motivated mindset. That will outweigh eugenics in just about any case.
Marrying a masculine female would be a good idea as they're more human than people who adhere to
stereotypes and 50's created gender roles such as the housewife.
ideally go for someone who doesn't wear make up.
You should do it if you are an effeminate soft faced faggot or a manlet or something like that.
But if you are a 7 foot tall chad, you shouldnt do it with an equally masculine woman.
If you only breed with masculine females you pretty much end up with daughters that fell like your average black woman - violent, not really pretty, receding hairline... you gotta find a balance.
But there are some things that I think everyone should look for - smart women (IQ is genetic), tall women, women with big feet (for sons with big cocks), etc...
Define masculine before you try to breed "masculine" women
Eugenics is possible.
So is Dysgenics.
So are jews.
This same logic can let a man escape from manlethood. It's a way for a man to fix any shortcomings he sees with his genetics. It would be the absolute clutch move, taking one for the team, to wife up a non-ideal women to improve the genetics of your progeny.
Only feminine women, which doesn't mean "weak", can raise masculine men.
Masculine women will raise low self-esteem lunatics
This is true, taking to the extreme we would end up with apes, but if you look at the neonotenous features of whites and asians you can see how much we autodomesticated ourselves. I find myself attracted to these features but I wonder if that is the right traits to survive in our current society. Like I said before these traits are A+ for a homogeneous society so it seems it would be a good hedge against society not becoming homogeneous again.
Theres this Amazonian redhead I work with, shes like 6.3 and actually not a complete fatty dog like most tall women are. Too bad she has a husband, but she is a complete dummy so idk man
>Define
5-10% more masculine than my natural preference. Or using some type of weighted system where you give up 1 natural preference for slightly more masculine feature, mind set, high IQ, height, etc. Anything leading to a slightly more masculine son
I feel like the ancient Greek and roman warrior culture were aware of this, and chose more masculine, bigger women.
The woman I love is more statuesque than I typically prefer.
>lift weights etc.
This is true for yourself but if you see life as a competition between genetics it's not enough.
As I get older It becomes more apparent that this life is less about "me" and more about my genetics.
What led to you settling with her if you don't mind me asking.
you will have better chance going on craigslist and finding a alpha male to drink his cum to improve your DNA and hormones.
>masculine
Define
>Make an enclosed area with Jews, Asians, and Whites
>Encourage them to interbreed
First generation kids will be dumber than their parents, as they won't have double pairs of recessives (intelligence increasing genes tend to be recessive)
>3rd generation they have more iq increasing genes than almost anyone on the planet, with many activated due to closed off population (mild incest, think Einstein)
I'm phone posting.
The definition isnt important just anything you would like to be passed on to your son. So if the girl has slightly wide shoulders for a women, you would hope that trait gets passed to your son, if she has a slightly larger jaw. One of the reason I thought about this is because my g has a weak chin, I think its sexy on her but would be terrible for my potential son to Inherit l.
>and chose more masculine, bigger women
Well greek men would fuck other men, so that would be their preference.
>This is true for yourself
And your offspring. What you do effects epigenetics. This also effects your offspring when mating. Continuing this while raising your child sets a good example for them too. Do good for yourself and your offspring.
Feminists labeled this jew a hateful bigot, so maybe he's not far off.
Plenty of gay/trap porn on /b/. No need to fantasize here.
>The definition isnt important
then you're a moron.
Also probably an iq test to get the originals
Its subjective genius.
Traits that YOU consider desirable for your potential son.
I'm curious.
A "manish" female, to me, would be broken down by temperance and physiological, both playing off each other.
-Walks without caring about her face. You know how a woman is either super bashful or contorts her angles to show her best side? The mannish woman doesn't care.
-Slightly less colleen in her skin, a bit rougher.
-More angular features.
I'm just spitballing, its hard to describe the differences between sexes in one post.
>Traits that YOU consider desirable
yeah like SLOPED HIPS foR INNCREASED HIP DISPLASIA
you need more than singular specific traits to breed good children you cocksucking moron.
Hurry surer. Genetic transformations happen in one generation.
Hurr durr*
>hip dysplasia
I'm not breeding golden retrievers brainlet.
I would define the differences between the sexes as different evolutionary paths
Femininity being the desire to live at the expense of others due to the lack of capability in providing for themselves
Masculinity being the desire to compete with others for resources due to perceived self-capability
If you were to describe masculinity in this way I think you could very easily select masculine women from feminine to be potential mothers who would pass this philosophy and physical capability on to your children.
If you're defining masculinity as HURR DURR SHE GOT A BIG DIX AND JAW you're likely to fuck up your gene pool.
>I'm not breeding golden retrievers brainlet.
AYY THE DEFINITION ISN'T IMPORTATN
>selective breeding of slaves
>resulting in black women that look like men
no thank you
It's the males chromosome that determines baby gender retard
Just to clear things up.
One way to look at this is genetics respond to environmental factors. The current major factor I'm considering in this thought experiment is the transition to a hyper social, hyoergamous, multicultural society vulnerable to a k-reproductive strategy.
With that understood I wonder what the possibilities are to use human foresight instead of "genetic reaction" to create a more competitive genome. It seem there would be an advantage to proactively change instead of waiting for the environmental factors to force change.
The platonic ideal can be written in one post, but the ideal man and the ideal woman does not exist. In this, I tend to agree slightly with queers when they say "gender is a construct."
It is and it isn't. Outside of those super rare accidents of birth, we are born a man or a woman. How we act is part of many things, but behavioral predisposition appears to be heavily influenced by genes. That is, your temperance is part of your very being.
In all practical manners, every man and woman are part feminine and part masculine, with mixtures varying to the individual level. Your temperance, which is influenced by physical traits to a certain extend, can be both male and female.
>but the ideal man and the ideal woman does not exist
> every man and woman are part feminine and part masculine, with mixtures varying to the individual level
Yes.
Attempt to maximize the platonic ideal of masculinity, both physically and mentally, in the spouse you (and your children) pick for the next million years and your genetic line will become much closer to an asexual masculine (see ) overman-esque species
>masculine female
What did he mean by that?
Whoever look inked the book, thank you it looks interesting. I think this is an important discussion the white race needs to have in order to survive this rough period of multiculturalism.
I'll be back soon hopefully the thread is still alive .
I know a woman like that but has a jew nose. Swears she is german... Hmmm...
I don't want to fuck the masculine ideal, thats the great paradox. The masculine nature is not suited for every task and situation, neither is the female. We need both, and I few can truly thrive by themselves even if they perform both roles.
That persistent feminine vanity and selfishness must be checked as much as masculine impulsiveness. A strong family needs the social acuity that only the vain can provide, as much as the protection that impulse can bring.. Too much of either and you are in trouble.
>I don't want to dominate a strong, capable woman who doesn't whine and scream when things don't go her way
how fucking queer can yyou get?
Unless you want to end up with niggers I would highly be against it.
Women are already extremely masculine while men are extremely feminine. The solution is to reverse this trend.
>Women are already extremely
feminine
>while men are
also
> extremely feminine
fixed that for you.
>Posts an image of a mentally unstable girl who doesn't have any kids and wouldn't be a good mother even if she could easily give birth.
Your definition of a capable woman and mine are completely different.
>mentally unstable girl who doesn't have any kids and wouldn't be a good mother even if she could easily give birth.
I don't know this person nor care about her personality.
But she is physically fit which is a part of what I have defined as masculine here .
I define capable as having the ability to provide resources for yourself.
Nobody is capable in our society because society has been corrupted by femininity, or the desire to live at the expense of others, as a result the knowledge and skill required to be capable, or self sufficient is dying.
If you'd like to propose a different definition of capable then please do so.
Do not make assumptions that directly oppose what I have already stated as my opinion/argument.
Women are incapable of providing resources to themselves. Men are the hunters, women gather mens resources. The reward for women's incapabilities in the outer world is that she creates the inner world and produces children.
Don't like it? Tough luck. This is the world we were given and we must deal with it.
Also if you're going to use that argument then at least don't post the name of the person on your image. You obviously know whom you're posting.
That's actually surprisingly hot
Its deeper than whinging/crying. The vanity of a woman, even your ideal conservative one is rooted in selfishness. She needs validation. The only reason we don't call it a mental illness is because its biologically necessary. To some degree or another, our mothers brought us into this world knowing we would love them unconditionally, at least for a short time. That literally drives them, don't let new wave feminists fool you.
A man's love is to give, a woman's to receive, this is the order of things because child birth for humans is more dangerous and than almost every other species. Women are expected to be picky, not bitchy.
That is speaking ideally, based of historically trends that maximized our survival in austere environments. If you want your progeny to survive when the world starts to crack around them, don't discount the feminine virtues that helped raise them. Only recently, IMO due to things like birth control and abortion messing, did those virtues be looked down upon as negative.
Fuck other men, masculine 2x
Masculinity: "possession of the qualities traditionally associated with men."
Femininity: "the quality of being female; womanliness."
So this is obvious. Unless you want to end up like failed Pagan societies like the Romans and Spartans, or like Africa men must be masculine and women must be feminine in-order to be efficient.
You have a perverse, unmanly view of how women should be. I have a sneaking suspicion you're a closet case
>Women are incapable of providing resources to themselves
Yes
They should be selectively bred to be more capable.
This will cause them to raise their children to be more masculine and capable and self sufficient, instead of raising them to be perpetual children as is what happens in society.
Which causes society to fail.
>Don't like it? Tough luck.
Evolution isn't always beneficial.
Tough fucking luck.
Obviously you don't like the concept that women are physically and mentally worthless who have evolutionarily hijacked men's capability in acquiring resources to get a free ride because they have a vagina.
Fuck off until you've found a dad.
>Women are expected to be picky, not bitchy
Then they should be physically capable of defending themselves from an aggressive but incapable male
But they are not.
Instead of ad hominem
Go ahead and make an argument about how women and femininity(defined here)
benefit society/the human species over the long term.
HOMO, women are not supposed to be like that. Women who look like that are on steroids like anavar.
HOW does (the desire to live at the expense of others) benefit society and humanity in the long run?
>Fuck off until you've found a dad.
I have a strong conservative dad and was raised in a Christian household. You sound projecting and this is imminent with how womanly you argue. Perhaps make yourself more masculine instead of wanting to make women more masculine.
Evolution is always beneficial and it's only recent events that the weak and incapable have been able to reproduce. No masculine woman will be able to survive the man's world nor reproduce properly when this society collapses and neither will feminine men be able to get the resources too.
Masculine men and feminine women are the result of years of evolution. They are the Ubermensch of society and it's why Hitler admired them so much.
>Evolution is always beneficial
hahaha
Maybe you can answer this then
HOW does (the desire to live at the expense of others) benefit society and humanity in the long run?
No. Women are intended to be feminine and men are intended to masculine.
If you're not masculine, don't breed.
< epigenetics and setting a good example.
This is absolutely important and epigenetics is something I would love to learn more a out because I've only scratched the surface, but I'd rather focus this on mate selection
american idiocy
masculine fermales are in hardass character, not a pointless manjaw
Because those women select strong men (or rather the men selected for the women thanks to coverture) to be the offspring of their children.
You live off of strong men and you also live FOR their strong offspring, caring for them while the man is physically incapable of and making sure they survive enough to become either the men who will carry on his father or the daughter who will carry his father's legacy with future offspring.
>Because those women select strong men
no they don't.
They select RESOURCES and SECURITY which in society means welfare and (((civil rights)))
which creates a dysgenic system where the capable subsidize the weak.
>Then they should be physically capable of defending themselves from an aggressive but incapable male.
That's all fine and dandy when they are in their early twenties, working out in a gym with modern medicine and diet to aid them along. But what about when it comes down to actually grunting it? Can they go a few days without food, and be on the same level as even the slobs posting on this board?
Fuck I'll open up the can of worms: Women in the army is a bad idea. They break, so so easily. If you were to change their hip structure, the main reason they tend to suck in austere conditions, it would be much more difficult for them to have children. You can add as much muscle as you want, but if the frame can't handle it, then there's no point in passing down the ability to create larger muscle fibers the way a typical man can.
Smaller hips make an already dangerous child berthing process and makes it worse. Its genetically infeasible to physically alter a woman's ability to keep up with men, because they need to be around have kids. Without that, whats the fucking point?
The physical dimorphism is more important that psychological dimorphism.
> a mans love is to give, a women's live is to recieve.
This is causing such an issue in my life. I'm sure I knew this subconsciously but It gives my rational mind alot of problems. If you don't mind can I ask how you deal with this fact in your life, how do you apply this knowledge to navigate your relationships?
Women selected the state to give them the benefits and choose to get fucked by Chads and not a bunch of NEET Betas. They just subsidize for her happenings.
Don't give women control of the outer world, I agree. But they must be able to be in control of the inner world which they maintain for a strong man in his children which modern women have forgotten how.
Jow Forums doesn't give a fuck about their future and only cares about muh dick, see yellow fever faggots. they're basically nigger apes
my gf has big hips and a strong ass jaw and was raised on a farm doing manual labor. and it's beautiful, my sons are gonna ooze masculinity. take a suck yellow fever monkeys
This is the issue the modern world is not one we are fit to thrive in. The person you're replying to seems to be talking about the world in its former state.
>pushing babies through the hips is the optimal way to breed
You're putting words in my mouth.
at no point have I stated that women should be the only ones who produce children
I want an asexual species.
>Women in the army is a bad idea. They break
Wow we agree on this.
have you read anything I've written?
>The physical dimorphism is more important that psychological dimorphism.
The physical dimprphism led to the psychological dimorphism
>Don't give women control of the outer world
They will take it because weak feminized incapable men manipulate society for them in order to give them benefits so the weak feminized men can gain sex.
>I've literally never thought about the world beyond hitler quotes
gg family
I've been single for a year, so I don't know, work at it knowing that she could just up and walk out on you. If you talk to your woman, lay down expectations early on in an adult way there typically isn't a problem if you found yourself a good woman and you hold up your end of the deal. The milk is worth the squeeze, so to speak.
I can't tell you if your relationship is toxic. I've had a few of mine explode. Sometimes it was my fault, sometimes theirs, and sometimes it was doomed from the start. That mystery is beyond me. Honestly, going to church and talking to a priest is a good way manage expectations if you're looking for a family. Otherwise, therapy might be an option. You can talk to your friends and family, but just know their insights are biased and they might just want you to feel better, when feeling shitty can sometimes be the thing that motivates you to improve yourself.
>I want an asexual species.
How old are you lmao.
How old were you when your father left you to deal with your single mother?
>asexual species
Chad+Stacey= Chastacey. Chastity. Asexual. Eh. I was reaching.
These heterogeneous societies require the use of welfare and other unnatural requirements in-order to be sustained.
You're better off just following the norm our traditional societies have always done. This clown world of a "civilization" will collapse and those who cannot survive without gibs will die.
>and those who cannot survive without gibs will
manipulate the strong into giving them resources
i.e.
establish society
Fucking cringe. Kill yourself homosexual.
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> Read some oldschool books on eugenics
Can you recommend any titles or authors? I just need a starting point.
> I want an asexual species
You wut ?
Wtf
A species that doesn't require males and females to procreate.
Like komodo dragons.
Capable of mixing for better genes but not required for the continuation of the species, which would be beneficial if you're attempting to breed out traits that are damaging to a society, like the dependence on others for survival.
wh*Tes should make them selves as feminine as possible so they can best serve their BLACK masters
Niggers will always be more masculine than a low t blonde cuck like me so whatever I guess
For eugenic purposes focus on female body type exemplified by Greek and Roman ideals. Avoid the modern lithe and fragile ideal of female beauty.
no
Cart before the horse
Yes. Haven't you heard the 1800's expression "ugly wife makes beautiful sons".
A tall stock woman with masculine traits will pass those onto her sons. it works in reverse too. Cute boys make hot daughters