>Anyone can save money
>Someone with money can't be an incel as he can go to a whore, meaning he choses not to have sex
>If someone has standards and doesn't want to lower them to fuck a 0/10 then he isn't an incel, because he choses not to have sex with those women
Incel is just a term people use instead of "virgin", but because calling people a virgin is pathetic people use the word "incel" to seem educated.
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Incels must be one of the most stupid people on earth.
If even those fucking antifa fags have "girl"friends why can't incels?
Prostitution is extremely illegal here.
>If even those fucking antifa fags have "girl"friends why can't incels?
They can, therefore they aren't incels.
Most drugs is illegal too, but if someone really wants to he'll be able to get drugs. Same when it comes down to finding someone who accepts money for sex.
Well here it's harder than it's ever been. And no I can't reasonably get drugs either. Pot literally doesn't count anymore.
As for fucking below a 2/10 that's like saying if I don't willingly risk contracting herpes then I'm not an incel.
I've known very nice women who I'd rate as a 2/10, they'd have a very nice personallity, sweet but.. Well one for example was just obese.
Maybe our rating system differs, but I'd think in the US you'd have more whales who get 0 attention compared to other countries? And these people i'm referring too definitly don't have herpes.
It's what leftists project onto everyone else because it's what they despite their white knighting actually are.
I dunno but a 2/10 woman has at least twice the value of a 2/10 man so thats why I'm an incel. Granted I'm not working hard or taking chances but the fact remains. I think the problem is that I feel like I need help but literally no one gives a shit. Thats capitalism. It's probably in everyone's interest that I am an incel. Why would anyone want to empower me to get girlfriends? There's no incentive to help me with literally anything. I'm the enemy.
Its cute when europeans think we can just go see prostitutes over here. It doesn't work like that, except in vegas, and it costs 10x more, plus plane ticket and hotel.
Don't forget its all of Nevada and I hear you can get a street hooker for $200 pretty easy.
I've had plenty of friends or just collegues who'd "empower" me so as you call it. I even had a friend who was a girl sleep with me when she found out I never had sex before.
I think assuming you're the enemy of them is wrong.
If you find you interact with people but no one seems to take your interests into concidderation they're not your friends. No flame but are you really terrible with people, maybe no one just likes you.
whores don't count, the whole stigma of being an incel is you're too socially inept to get a girl. Paying for it is just cheating.
you're also not guaranteed a 0/10. Women always fuck above their level because they can. a 0/10 girl can still get like a 3/10 guy, also most women that ugly are asexual anyway.
Well maybe it's a difference in our countries. Also the amount of bisexual men here is out of fucking control. Kinda the dirty secret. It's all just supply and demand. It's pretty fucking horrible.
>No flame but are you really terrible with people, maybe no one just likes you.
Even if that's true then I'm still an incel. That's the point.
Do you really not understand that its more of a self-confidence issue, and an excuse for those with self confidence issues to vent
Its not like God marked them and made them unfuckable, and they probably actually know this deep down, they just project their problems like anyone else does for the most part.
>what is an escort service
>what is google
>what is discretion
you're right though that being a John can make you a moral leper here if people know about it
Alright so I'll change my opinion to, incels excist but only in the USA.
Thanks this was an interesting insight.
Although I disagree with guys not being able to get a 0/10 whenever they want. You need to have one notable characteristic: Money, Humor, Muscle, Intelligence, looks
Two of those you can work on, taking a 0/10 on a nice date and having sex with her after is in my opinion the same as a hooker. But maybe not for you, so not cheating.
Back page and all that shit just got down. And yeah I'm not made out of money. I'd need a cheap whore. Not to mention theres vice sqauds out the ass here.
Yes but I equate getting a 0 to getting herpes. If I'm not willing to get herpes then I'm not an incel?
>taking a 0/10 on a nice date and having sex with her after is in my opinion the same as a hooker.
That is beyond absurd.
Literally go to any strip club and start there. Every single time I’ve been to a strip club girls will ask if I want a blowjob while giving me a lap dance and usually say they’ll blow me for $100-$200. Never took up the offer since I thought it was a rip off
maybe you're gay, or sex just isn't a priority, don't beat yourself up
>Granted I'm not working hard or taking chances but the fact remains
But i do disagree with you being an incel though, if you're saying you're not working hard and not taking chances. Are you then really a virgin because you got no way of getting laid?
That's like saying "I can't get hired, granted I do not try hard on my applications or take chances. But fact remains"
Yeah fucking right, where? I've been to plenty of strip clubs in Dallas and I've never even heard of that. Absolutely unbelievable story.
Watch the video, it explains the reasoning.
>I feel like I need help but literally no one gives a shit. Thats capitalism.
No,
How about a little self help
Get fit, get a job, change your style, get interests
Have you done anything to try turning that 2/10 to a 3/10?
I bet if incels weren't voluntary autists they could just learn how to talk to chicks like human beings and maybe get laid along the way?
Then I'm still an incel. That's the point of this thread.
And I've had my dick sucked by more than enough men to know I'm not gay thank you very much. And bisexuality in general is devastating to heterosexual incels like myself. Men and women. Bisexual men and women invading the dating scene is fucking devastating to heterosexual incels. At least as far as the aspect of helping people like me out. And this country is fucking loaded with bisexuals. Massively out of control.
Anybody can get laid, yes. There's no such thing as an incel, any person stating otherwise refuses to lower their standards to get laid.
Ok but that doesn't mean I'm not an incel. Then I would become someone else literally. As far as dating goes. Again that's the point. There are incels and I'm one of them. And this thread proves why. Because no one gives a shit. Why would they?
Well in commmunism I don't think that would be accepted. That's the fundamental argument. Capitalism vs communism in dating.
There's truth to that
The world is full of happy couples who lowered their ridiculous standards
Post a selfie faggot, I still don't believe you're an incel. I'm literally convinced you're just too retarded to talk to people IRL.
If I'm too retarded then I'm still an incel.
Are you saying we don't give a shit about you being an incel?
If that is so I think you've got a very weird interpetation of what people's motives are. Some people even mentioned some points people can do to stop being in incel.
What else would you expect? No one is going to offer his wife to you so you can get it over with...
>paying for sex is cheating
Wonder how I can tell you're a roastie.
>No one is going to offer his wife to you
If they really cared they would.
Both of them would instantly gain at least 3 points by ditching the pedophile glasses
incels are like fat girls, you say a lot of things to excuse yourselves but it's all just a coping mechanism to avoid the truth.
>Then I would become someone else literally.
Everyone has ability to change who they are
forget about sex or a relationship
become a better person first
people are attracted to motivated, happy people
Alright you're disqualified, guess there are no incels in this thread. That's a nice feeling
Incel is a state of mind. They're virgins who wallow in their misery. In fact, if a girl offered them sex they would probably turn it down purely out of spite.
Ok but then that person that I used to be was still an incel. The point is that apparently if I don't become a different person then I can just eat fucking shit.
See now this is the kind of thing that's an incel mentality: assuming vaginas with boyfriends are automatically unattainable.
Women have no loyalty or honor, having an obligation to their boyfriend isn't going to stop them from doing whatever they want and justifying it later.
Jfc at this point you're not only involuntarily celebate, you're being straight up voluntarily retarded. Get help, seriously. I'd say get laid, but you seem hell bent on keeping yourself from that just to be a meme.
>if a girl offered them sex they would probably turn it down purely out of spite.
yet another coping fantasy that exists in the mind of every virgin, one of many twisted delusions.
Incels don't have to be virgins.
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I am an incel because I dont want to do any effort to get a pussy.
In my city: Culiacan, Sinaloa, Mexico You can get prime pussy, really young and really cute girls for about 2,000 - 3,000 pesos = 150 dollars. So you can come, fuck some cute bitches, get drunk and do drugs and get back to your place for less of 1,500.
And no, nobody are going to murder you if you stay in a nice hotel and get your hokers with renowed pimps.
Also illegal migrants have fucking devasted incels. Who gives a shit about the birthrate? Just pump the country full of illegal immigrants.
the earth doesnt have to move and yet it moves
Agreed, but I think there's more mental stress to fucking a girl that already has a bf in my experience. I'm sure that's part of what turns people off.
This guy literally telling you how to do it, how's that for help?
I might as well just go to Vegas. The point is that some type of reasonable standard is justified.
And it's not really illegal immigrants. It's the traitors who facilitate it. Illegal immigrants would be good but they don't even give a fuck about marrying for citizenship because why would they? They can just stay anyways.
What is it called when you fucked hundreds of women and were in several series long term relationships when you were age 13-38 but then completely withdrew because you're so selfish that you don't want to spend one second doing anything you don't want to do, let alone the series of concessions it requires to get a women from eye contact to orgasm.
And also you can make yourself cum harder then the vast majority of women can so you don't even miss casual sex, and you certainly do not miss having less autonomy of your own body from somebody always hanging off of you, in your bed, on your couch, etc?
I don't actually hate women at all, I just prefer to be alone. I don't buy into any of the idiotic rhetoric about women because my career required me to read many studies and essays and I've seen many female minds display just as much complexity as males.
I've just decided that I like being alone, I like to change the channel whenever I feel like it, eat exactly what I want when I feel like it, roll over in bed exactly where I want to with all of the blanket.
Like today for example, I don't have jackshit that I have to do. And nobody is going to ask me to go anywhere or do anything that I don't want to. That's valuable to me. I've only been off of women for a few years now, so it's even still a novelty to me.
I am not so stunted and gnarled that I can not attract women, even at middle age, I just don't want any complications and I don't want to mislead or use anybody.
I've heard of this happening here in Florida
Good point. It may not be a coincidence that the last woman I fucked was possibly the loosest cunt I've ever had.
Well then Vegas may have competition because Tampa Bay is like mecca to me between the Dali museum and death metal.
Fornication is bad
I don't think a virgin can even be an incel. That's completely redundant.
u are living my dream
t.married and same age
>be a virgin
>want sex
>can't get it
>tfw involuntarily celibate
what does redundant mean to you anyways?
I have lots of expendable cash, a nice new and clean car, my own apartment with a fireplace. I’m decent looking and am able to hold an interesting conversation. I can’t get laid to save my life. Maybe I could bang some ugly monster hoe but I want someone halfway good looking. I’m 30 now and fucked like crazy most of my life but when I hit 27 I stopped being able to get laid. Am I a new incel?
Well my definition does require that all men are involuntarily virgins and anything else is just literal brainwashing that by definition is an involuntary thing.
Yes. Inceldom starts the moment after the last time you had sex until the next time you literally refuse it. Unless she's below a 4/10 for you or whatever. I think people do need to drop down quite a bit. The problem is for 2s like me there's not much room to go.
Maybe the fireplace is your problem. It's totally antiquated.
>if you don't give cock thirsty whores in relationships another source of cock, you're an incel
What did she mean by this?
If is not married she is up for grabs
It means there's no such thing as an unavailable female.
Problem is almost all are in the region of 2/10 and I’m at worst a 5 but I have enough cash to make me a 7. It’s reallt made me grown to hate women. I’ve been dumped a couple times for guys that were ugly as fuck with jacked up teeth and drug problems.
Maybe you should have gotten married instead of being a degenerate whoremonger
>implying whores can't opt out of fucking you
you should at least procreate but there is always rape for that.
Women will NOT change their whore ways until we punish them as a group. I think enough small brained faggots are waking up to this finally. The boomers however are a lost cause.
Can you post a 2/10?
Sex is not a need. In fact, a "needy" man comes off as less masculine and more of a "beta male."
Right but if its legal then that shouldn't matter. Illegal then it sometimes can actually greatly exacerbate inceldom. I know.
A real alpha needs nothing, whereas your beta males are constantly talking about pussy. This is because they are weak. The women see this and it turns them off. It is better to not even notice women and focus on career goals.