What us the Redpill on pearl harbor?

Why did they do it?

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This is like 10th grade history you nigger.

I was also taught 6 gorrilian

EMU EMU EMU

it was a false flag. the whole fleet was out to sea.

Not really a redpill more like reading beyond propaganda and 'pop' history books. Pearl harbour was caused by the American empire and Japanese empire butting heads. Japanese steel was like Chinese steel today undercutting us production. The wars in China were not unlike the European wars in Africa a century or two earlier, it was just colonialism. Japanese industrial growth threatened US industrial power and the FDR gov. Worked to push Japan out by blocking oil exports and Japan pushed back. The attack on pearl harbour was an attempt to wipe out the US fleet in the Pacific giving Japan the time to build up their navy further to face the newer Allied fleets that would eventually come. There was no way around pearl harbour for the Japanese, they needed the South East Asian oil fields and to do that they needed to take it from the allied nations.

Some dictator made a critical logic miscalculation just like Hitler made by diving in Soviet territory.

Basically these. US wanted to join the war really hard. But Germany attacking them sounded unlikely so they made a full-on blockade of any oil to Japan in the middle of a war while helping their biggest enemy with money and oil.

Japan could either not attack and lose the war or attack and lose the war. They chose the later. That is why they were going so far to even kill themself in the war.

Ready to have t your mind blown?

Japan had every right to attack us. Legally, they were in the right.

How you ask? Read up on the Tripartite Pact. It was a military alliance between Japan, Italy, and Germany. Defensive in nature, it basically stated that if one of those countries was attacked, the other nations had a right to defend that nation.

FDR violated neutrality agreements and was desperately trying to get the US in to the war to help out the UK because, like WW1, they were neck-and-neck with Germany and in serious danger of losing, even more likely a lot than in WW1.

I'm phone posting so can't go intob detail but the US did such neutral acts as reporting ship positions of Germany, shadowing civilian and military ships until British naval ships could intercept, completely violating neutrality. Oh don't forget sending 50 destroyers to England, giving them money, supplies....so on and so on, we all know this story.. and last of course, the USS Reuben James incident, and another incident involving a fight between German subs and US destroyers (US was illegally escorting supply ships to a nation at war, England). FDR gave orders I think in October 1941 to fire on German ships and subs. Look it up, don't take my word for it.

Since Germany was allied with Japan, and the US was killing Germans without even declaring war (talk about pussies, right?) Japan had EVERY LEGAL RIGHT TO STRIKE.

And the best part about this argument? If any low IQ cuck tries to argue that Japan didn't have a right to attack, then ask them if the UK had the right to attack Germany and declare war after a sudden guarantee of Independence. If they say yes, then a longer standing guarantee between the axis nations holds legality. Id they say no, then Japan's attack is invalid, and so is the UKs, meaning WW2 was a defensive war against the Allies.

It's win win, America just got fucked because the war started in a theater they weren't expecting.

*Guarantee of Independence was for Poland of course. Forgot that sentence.

>If any low IQ cuck tries to argue that Japan didn't have a right to attack, then ask them if the UK had the right to attack Germany and declare war after a sudden guarantee of Independence
Or I could just ask you whether we had a right to take some action short of war once the Krauts began killing American sailors. But I forgot, we have to just bend over and take it repeatedly. Whenever we react and bring down THE FUCKING HAMMER OF GOD you pathetic simpering Krautcuck apologists lose your shit. Also nice reddit spacing, faggot.

The Japanese needed to demolish the American Fleet to enable their rapid dominace of the Pacific Theatre.

We had advanced intelligence of the attack but (((they))) withheld the information knowing that such an attack would be the catalyst that would finally convince the public to support entering the war, and that once American went in against Japan they'd have to go in against the Germans as well.

But why was America's reaction a fucking Atom bomb?

Go big or go home.

To get us into WW2, obviously.

Look up the McCollum memo.
FDR had foreknowledge of the attacks and allowed them to happen.

That's why all of our carriers were conveniently missing from port that morning.

The agenda

>Killing American sailors

You mean the sailors with orders to shoot to kill against Germany sailors? You bet they deserved to die.

Hitler did everything he could to avoid war with the US, even when the US was blatantly violating neutrality and killing Germans, he wasn't stupid. His own admirals begged him to declare war and allow them to fight back but he denied them. Once Japan attacked, then he figured at least the US would be busy in the Pacific and he might as well shoot back. He didn't expect the US to still focus him down, but that's history.

Also, only reason we are able to Hammer of God anyone is because we have 2 friendly neighbors and 2 huge oceans. American soldiers have always been weak, it's why they pick on small soft nations or wait to join a fight until long after it's begun.

T. Army vet

This. Thank god we aren’t all speaking German right now. I love all of our great freedoms. God bless America.

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>many USA civilian ships were sung by german U boats throughout the tie beofre USA was hit at pearl harbor

>japan had every right to hit USA

Honestly this thread is so full of retardation i dont even care. Not gonna bother picking it apart. read what books are available and interview some fucking vets before they are all gone.

Fuck you all, I've spoken to a dozen vets from all branches and merits. You wanna tell me they are all jew controlled then just dont reply to me.

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This. Don’t forget talking to the last surviving holocaust survivors as well. And their holograms in museums. Jow Forums BTFO as always.

Not even remotely the same. War vets contest holohoax camps for what they were. Slip off schlomo.

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>That's why all of our carriers were conveniently missing from port that morning.
It's because they hit a fucking typhoon on the way back from Wake. Had they left Wake a day earlier they would have been at Pearl. In fact Big E pulled in shortly after the attack and her air wing searched for the Japanese fleet that was already high tailing it home.

Hirohito did nothing wrong.

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They attacked in order to impede American resistance of their expansion into US-protected Asia. It worked super well at first, too. They just ultimate retard-tier underestimated American wartime power and also overestimated value of navy in modern war.

US oil embargo. Japanese leadership thought they could cripple the USN at Pearl, but missed the carriers, which were out on maneuvers. Japan's initial objective wasn't to defeat the US in a land war, but to decimate the USN before the industrial power of the US could start cranking out warships endlessly. Said carriers proved critical in the decisive engagements of Coral Sea and later Midway, where Japan suffered a massive defeat, losing 4 fleet carriers to one US carrier. Also, Pearl was hardly a loss for the battleships, considering that 3/4 sunken battleships were raised and then upgraded.

Japan was really in a catch 22 situation when it came to their empire and routes of expansion. The continuation of their war against China led to an oil and scrap iron embargo by the West, where the grand majority of both resources came from the US. Without any of their territory being particularly rich in iron or oil, they were faced with few options, either to call off the war with China and permanently tarnish their image as beholden to the West, or double down and continue the war for expansion and prestige.

Japan's goal with the embargo in effect was to seize resource rich provinces and render the embargoes moot by taking the oil for themselves, which had 2 options:

1. Advance north and take Soviet mines and oil fields in Siberia, which invites a war with the Red Army for it (codenamed Hokushin-Ron) or;

2. Advance south to the Dutch East Indies and French Indochina, taking oil and iron from there, but this will certainly invite war with the US who has market interests in the European colonies (code named Nanshin-Ron).

The Japanese first attempted the Northern plan and fought the Soviet Union for the Manchurian border and Mongolia, and were promptly defeated at Khalkhin Gol. Japan didn't have the land army to fight both China and the Soviets, so Japan defaulted to option 2.

Japan knew that fighting the US Pacific fleet at full strength was a fool's errand, so Pearl Harbor was planned as a way to remove the fleet entirely, and expand without the fear of US forces in the area, and at a best case scenario, intimidate the US into backing down in the Pacific. It was a tremendous gamble, but didn't pay off. The pacific fleet was damaged and Japan was free to expand for about a year, but once the US rebuilt its strength, the Pacific War turned against them quickly.

nip hubris

>2. Advance south to the Dutch East Indies and French Indochina,
In 41' France and the Netherlands were already occupied by Germany...
Nips picked the wrong plan

and scientific progress in general. rusky was on a similar project started in 1940 albeit at a slower pace than amerikansky. hans was close too - see Jerry's efforts at the Norwegian heavy water reactor.