US presence in Afghanistan

officially it went there to find bin laden.
he ended up being killed in pakistan.
the usa didn't leave.
a reason was that it's acutally there to control the heroin production.
i think this is false because you can make fentanyl, a much powerful drug, at home without the need to invade.
i think the usa is Afghanistan to block chinese
economic exapnsion to the west and to trigger the russians. the americans could launch attacks from afghanistan going north all the way to russia, breaking it in half.

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The usa is in afghanistan to funnel taxpayers monies into the pocket of defence companies and their shareholders.
Same as every other war in history

The opium extracts are not traded on this planet or even this solar system.
The most trade-able commodity from Earth is smack.

False. The US is there to stop ISIS, Al Qaeda and Taliban.

the situation is worse than it was before they moved in afghanistan

>you can make fentanyl at home

Then why isn’t that more common

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>stop the taliban
Why? They do the same shit the saudis do. ISIS didn't fucking exist underage fag.

stop ISIS lol?

the US stayed behind to turn the Taliban into ISIS

Im in Afghanistan right now, at Kandahar Airfield, on my 6th tour. I do targeting and intel analysis. AMA.

Spent 5 years in that country. KAF is the worst fucking place there. I remember when the shit ponds were on the perimeter of the base.
Try to get out to Herat, the Italians and Spanish have a liquor store and some good restaurants there. MeS was good until the USArmy showed up.

You can make shrooms at home too. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

You forgot something...
>Strategic military location with respect to Iran

And China, Pakistan, and Russia.

they are there to use the weapons so they can keep buying more from their own people with the tax payer's money

pharmaceutical opiate industry, illegal heroin industry(that is also used as a weapon on other countries besides our own you know), and a ground route into China's muslim-populated backdoor, the stans underbelly of Russia, Pakistan and Iran.

We won't be leaving m8

oh, and lithium

That we don't take..

thanks for correcting the record(TM) mr bolton

because china can do it cheaper lmao

These are pretty accurate.
You can buy the same hash in Amsterdam as the stuff you get in Kabul. It's just marked up 1000%
That's probably the thing I miss the most about that country other than the scenery up in the mountains in RC-E

" A report in 2010 that said Afghanistan had nearly a trillion dollars’ worth of untapped oil and mineral wealth." nytimes.com/2012/07/06/world/asia/exxon-mobil-signals-interest-in-afghan-oil-concession.html

What length engagements were happening around the time of your deployment? Mostly potshots in the mountains? Any problems with reach on the m4?
It just looks like a big low-intensity playground from the internet. Give me something interesting to read in the morning please because I need to hit the sack.

I remember reading an article saying the estimate was 2 trillion. Desperately need to take advantage of that soon to compete with the Chicom REM stranglehold

Also there was a supposed huge find of REM reserves in North Korea as well. Take with pound of salt.

Yes to train more of them also!

They can't get to any of it though, the country has no infrastructure. The Chinks have been trying to rebuild all the roads that go from Pakistan to Iran, but the fucking locals are so corrupt they kidnap the workers or sabotage/steal the equipment.
The Brits and Canadians wanted to post up in KAF and Bastion because it was said there was an oil field under the huge underground lake down there, and they wanted a piece of it. Unfortunately, the poppy industry is way to profitable. That's the funniest thing about the whole situation too lol, the Americans created this back in the 60s when they built that huge damn which dried out the southern part of the country.

All the TICs I was in were up in RC-E in the mountains. Mostly snipers. There was one Checznian fuck that the Talibs were paying to take people out. Worst one I was in was probably at OP Hatch, along the border. Only like 12 of us there doing overwatch. Had to call in the fast movers for that one.
Got to watch Restrepo and the KOP from FB Vegas, that was fun. We had a little remote controlled 240 hehe.

Iran is the second largest country in the world for Narcotics Anonymous membership

>Any problems with reach on the m4?
We had Mk14 with subsonic rounds, and a sniper team. Reach wasn't an issue. Either sneak up, or take them out a quarter mile out.

Not really, synthesizing opiates from opium is still the most cost effective method of manufacturing dope.

We stay there because as soon as we leave the Taliban will just come back. Also the body count is low so American's pretty much forget about it, its just become another middle east base.

Plus it lets us keep an eye on the Iranians and paki's

It's about economies of scale. You can buy a fist sized ball of hash in Kabul for $100 USD. In Amsterdam it's $10 a gram. Big pharma and organized crime loves Afghanistan because of this.

tell me about the country and people. The regional strength, tactics and weapons of the fighters you encountered or heard about.
and the attitude of our guys and the effectiveness of the air force against sandal-wearing donkey-riders

give me a big-ol paragraph to read with my covfefe tomorrow please and thank you. That is an order, user.

You can thank the Canadians, and Obama for that. The Canadians for their incompetence in Kandahar, a strategically vital portion of Afghanistan in which the Canadians literally allowed the Taliban to re-obtain, and Obama for preventing US Troops from fighting on the ground, and only providing Air Support to the corrupt, and incompetent Afghan National Army.

meh, most of the ANA is usually stoned. Watched these dumb fucks try to clear a jam on a Mk19, and popped a round off over the ridgeline. Landed next to a little village. That was kinda funny.
We rotate them around, don't want them being easily corruptible.
The people are pretty diverse. I'm a white guy with red/brown hair, and had no problem walking down the street in Kabul, or driving around from Bagram to Kabul or in Kandahar. The locals are pretty chill for the most part. One of the guys I was leasing trucks from down in KAF was making over $40K USD a month just leasing SUVs to us and the military. Dude had a house in the Netherlands and an apartment in Dubai. I'd visit him at least once a month to pay him, and he'd have his guys in the compound surrounding his home clean the truck while we ate dates and drank tea.
You'll find Afghans that look Chinese, Persian, Paki, and Mediterranean. Real melting pot. The only people that really stand out there are niggers. That's why driving around isn't a big deal (so long as it isn't a military vehicle). Just dress like them and drive a landcruiser and you're good to go.

>>you can make fentanyl, a much powerful drug, at home
pls cousin romania, go on

If this thread is still up in 30 mins, I'll be posting under a Danish flag. Currently in the EU doing stuff. Don't ask.

>the US is in Afghanistan for the opium
Why does Jow Forums have such a hard time understanding that multi-faceted issues exist? Jow Forums can't help but succumb to reductionist stupidity and try to find singular reasons for every issue. The US is in Afghanistan for atleast a dozen reasons, half of them shitty and half of them somewhat justifiable

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afghan australian here
my belief on why western countries framed us of terror just to invade us is because
my opinion is that iraq got invaded for that sweet black gold but afghanistan was invaded for our
>drugs like marijuana and opium
Americas fault for funding terrorists

It's not the only reason, but it's a big part of RC-S. DynCorp, TripleCanopy, and Evergreen are all down there running this shit out of their private hangers.

I'll post a picture from Thule btw.

Look at a map Iran is surrounded waiting for (((Saudi Arabia))) to strike will do once it's port is linked through Yemen basically no more need to get blocked at the straight of hormus coincidentally this will fuck China's land silk road expansion forcing them to use sea routes hence the reason is on a ship building binge and no the US doesn't have to occupy Iran like it did Iraq it just needs to blow up infrastructure and keep up sanctions pay isis types to make a mess and promise the kurds their own area out of Iran as they did in Syria to prolong it .

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A lot of that shit is Russian propaganda.

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What?
If you're interested in what's going on there, go there.

All I got when I went there was blown up by an old soviet landmine, shot at, and then I contracted dysentery.

other vet with expierience with the ANA.

They are almost always high on opiates. They are mostly illiterate. I've run into units comprised of half and half pashto and dari speakers so literally half the platoon can't understand the other half. One time I watched them attempt to "disarm" an IED by firing at it for 45 minutes. Turns out it wasnt an IED, just a pile of trash. They tend to undermine what little good rapport we establish with local villagers by robbing them blind. I once saw one get landed on by a helicopter because he was to high to notice its thundering rotors, massive dust cloud, and 50 people screaming at him to move. He died.

I saw another pair of them blow themselves up with backblast from an RPG by firing it inside a house causing it tocollapse on them. They also died.

I watched one shoot up some heroin, then die.

Basically, the ANA are really good at dying.

I'm in fucking tears over here man, thanks lol, haven't had that good a laugh in a while. Spot on.
The whole country is pretty much disposable.

Travel back to 1300 AD, hand out machineguns, explosives, and unlimited access to hard drugs to several million peasants. That dysfunctional inbred and drug addled mess is now afghanistan.

lol, I know, I'm the other guy with ANA exp here in the thread. It's a pretty country though. I look forward to going there again in 10-20 years. Great food and landscape.

I look forward to never going there again. I blew up a few times and would prefer to never set foot in a desert again.

Nice larp fag.

I only got rocked in Iraq. All the shit in Afghanistan was after I was out, and small arms.

I read some austrian general or whatever saying once that one reason the war is perpetuated is so that various armies around the world have essentially free reign to train and test new weapons in real combat.

If a bomb kills 50 civilians in Afghanistan, nobody blinks because we're so used to war being there

Like it's hard to flip your flag. Nice larp. Now get back to work before I report you to CI.

heheheh. CI goan get em.

There is a shit ton of mineral wealth in Afghanistan as well

Do you write so bad on purpose?

Wait, is the USA still in Afghanistan? I thought they left with Obama.

Fuck off faggot, and welcome newfag.
We more than tripled our numbers under him.

Look at the date of pic

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Denmark is in Afghanistan too?

>Denmark is in Afghanistan too?
I'm American, but, yes, they have troops in KAF and Kabul.

9/11 happened because of the poppy selling?

They're enabling Pedos for Heroine and gas.

in most engagements after 911, the Americans used article 5 or whatever the article to drag most of nato with them.

Libya we joined because Hillary and her crew was highly respected among the European career politicians .

CIA makes billions with poppy every year. It wasn't the only reason for US intervention though. Afghanistan is rich in Lithium as well which is an important resource for the future. The war also served the military industrial complex.

I drove to Iraq from Kuwait the year you pussies were in Iraq. Same year you pulled out. Think it was subways for you guys. Brits pulled out for busses iirc.

>9/11 happened because of the poppy selling?
Nah, it was just some jihadi bs. Dude getting chopped up in Turkey, check his wikileak profile. There's a subversive group of thinking in Islam that wants a new Empire that will wage global jihad. They basically brain wash a bunch of kids. It's like MKUltra on religion.

So is Hollywood.

Libya and Syria were central bank ops. They were basically off the grid and untrackable.

And what are you doing there? Fighting for the CIA and the American Jew?

NATO countries have been involved a lot more than you might think in the current conflicts. Germany for example has been doing CIA tier stuff in Afghanistan when the Soviet Union invaded and took part with special forces in US invasion of Iraq.

Your country is running the western part of the country with Italy. I mentioned this earlier in the thread. BTW, your breakfasts suck.

You guys actually own land in MeS. I had to get a fucking dig permit from mainland Germany when I was on your base just to run a fiber line to one of our offices. You faggots have more paperwork bullshit than American AirForce does.

>You faggots have more paperwork bullshit than American AirForce does.
Paperwork is part of our culture. We are born with it.

nice larp. you are literally replying to yourself

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Ok but then why are WE there? Are Taliban threaten Spain or Denmark?

You cant replace opium.
You need large fields = slaver work

NATO article 5
If one gets attacked then everyone has to defend them.
The US got attacked on 9/11.

Maybe. But what the fuck are we doing in Afghanistan?

You economy crashed, and you need cheap labor. You have literal slaves invading your country now to prop you up.
Also, you don't have a choice. Despite how weak the EU is, you're in NATO, and USA runs that shit. That's why we all want the Turks kicked out, and tried to coup them. They are going to fuck NATO. See the recent Saudi incident. The Turks want to control the flow from Asia to Europe.

>Maybe. But what the fuck are we doing in Afghanistan?
You're part of the U.K. nigger. You'll obide the Queen. She owes America money for a couple world wars.

By a bunch of Saudis who did most of the organising and planning in Germany there weren't any Afghanistanis involved.

youtube.com/watch?v=eAQv4upffS8

Saudis have been fighting in Afghanistan for decades. KASHoggi and his family has been a middle man for arms deals between Israel, Pakistan, USA, and Saudi Arabia for almost 50 years. They almost became British Royalty for fuck's sake. The Ladens are powerful, but the Kash is the King's grease.

You're 100% right OP. Bagram afb is within bombing distance of China, Iran, and the majority of Russia's oil production. That's why China is also starting to have a presence in Afghanistan. Brainlets just assume America=most evil country on earth, and work backwards from there. They don't understand geopolitics

Whoever controls Central Asia controls the Afro-Eurasian supercontinent. Afghanistan was the US’ corodor to Central Asia.

Opium, Lithium, Gold, and other reasons also played a part in our invasion

>Insert slowpoke meme

Amerimutt this photo.

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Europe should create his own military organization to defend our interests. Not going where the American Jew wants. Do you agree?

No we shouldnt because that will rob each country of independence.

>Federalise goy

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sorry OP you're wrong, we stayed because the CIA needs their heroin business, fentanyl comes from china, so its even more important to secure an opiate source, hence why we're still in
the other user's points about tax dollars to weapons manufacturers are correct as well, you can also be a contractor just building shit and still make a killing, especially since the US gov is working with the taliban now, its probably less dangerous now than ever. the taliban are just as corrupt as our corporate machine make no mistake, they may say they hate drugs but they love that cash

I'm not talking about something like the EU. Just a treaty where if some European country is attacked the rest has to help. Something light, not very restricted. Aren't you in favor of europeans being united?

Wtf dick head you replied to yourself

Very Germanic of you, Pedro

>No we shouldnt because that will rob each country of independence.
Nigger, you're not a country any more. You're a 'member state'.

>t. colony

He's done it more than once.

No I am not because that army can be used to hold down an uprising against the government and its policies.

An actual sovereign nation with control over our borders unlike Schlengen EU members.

This new faggot just larped and then larped in his reply to his larp in real time

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You dont know what you talk about so I will not bother with you.

Hipsters wanna buy coke, not fentanyl you faggot

I'm not talking about creating a new army. Just that each country collaborate with his own army.

Actually Afghanistan is in the eye of the storm geographically so you're onto something