In 2010 Germany faced a demographic armageddon

Now Germany is growing its population despite al odds. In 2017, Germany registered a net migration increase of 416,000 people, most from the Eastern European and Russian areas but also from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.

In contrast, Germany registered 780,000 live births and 930,000 deaths in 2017, for a net loss from deaths vs. births of 150,000. Deaths are projected to go up to 1 million until 2020 and then go up further thereafter. To keep population stable, Germany will need to either increase live births significantly OR import on average 250,000-300,000 people.

What should we do?

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Dissolve the EU and start up ww3

>To keep population stable
>What should we do?
Stop importing muzzies even if that means your population levels fall.

>Germany will need to either increase live births significantly OR import on average 250,000-300,000 people.
>What should we do?
What a stupid question.
If you import foreigners, you will fuck the demographic permanently. Why even call this shit country Germany if it's just full of foreigners anyway?

-Increase Ethnic German birth rate to 2.5 children/woman
-Close the borders
-Deport all non-Whites

Do it like what Russia is doing. Encouraging organic births while giving opportunity to young people for better housing and work.

>Now Germany is growing its population despite al odds
bigger population in germany, but less germans.

Automation is replacing manual labour, your country doesnt need immigrants. If you wanted more people you would just reproduce, but you europeans are soft so you need to be coddled by lower class immigrants. Fuck yourself.

Completely irrelevant unless you have a welfare state and/or you need manpower for war. And niggers won't fight for Germany; more likely the contrary.

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It will come back and bite them in the ass in the next 40 years.

And by stable population they mean the status quo favoured by nationless conglomerates in which labour's negotiating power always trends downwards.
It is no mistake that the nations with the most robust unions are often subjected to the heaviest mass immigration.

What about economic growth?

You either have a traditional homogenous society with lots of homogenous kids or a liberal shithole and invite lots of migrants in to cover up a low birth rate.

You can't have both. Every western shithole has a below replacement level birth rate because its a liberal shithole.

Without a growing population economic growth cannot be maintained.

Italy is full of unwanted niggers, and you germs don't want us to deporte them.
Since you need immigrants, you can take our niggers and sandniggers.

Population will go up to 85 million by 2025 based on new projections and yearly 300,000 to 400,000 average net migration rates.

A multicultural Germany is unavoidable now. German cities are already multicultural. The only thing we now need to do is adopt English as our principal language and adopt a new flag and start our European Empire.

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>Do it like what Russia is doing.
>housing and work

>Russia, the largest country in the world with cheap land
>Germany, the most overpopulated continental European country

Ok, lad, we cannot give people cheap and better housing.

You will never build an empire on Niggers Hans. Just because they're better at banging your wife than you are, doesn't mean they're better at warfare. Pic related.

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Look at how Singapore is doing that lad.

>Italy is full of unwanted niggers, and you germs don't want us to deporte them.

Germany deported 85,000 migrants last year. Italy deported 4,000.

Pretty sure you idiots don't deport because you don't really want to. Salvini said 500,000 illegals will be deported. What's his interim result? 500? cnbc.com/2018/06/04/pack-your-bags-italys-new-leaders-tell-500000-illegal-migrants--but-itll-cost-them.html

Even Austria deports more illegals than Italy. They already deported 10,000 this year.

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- Kick out all foreigners
- Get rid of women's rights

>Look at how Singapore is doing that lad.
How are they doing it? Aren't they like the Monaco and Hong Kong and Dubai of Asia?

All this predictions, graphs and projections by (((experts))) are bullshit. Go back a few decades and look up what (((experts))) predicted then. Most of them are wrong!

Do you think these (((experts))) considered the push back? The growth of the right? Keep pushing us into a corner and deal with the consequences. And I'm not talking about Germany, I'm talking about Europe.

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As much as I hate that a leaf said it.

But if you want immigrants so badly, then take our niggers.
The EU is supposed to be a cooperation, not just you germs leeching from us.

Government's mandate housing for everyone. Companies get supports from the government to build highrise apartments that is affordable for the young people to buy.

woah germany is in trouble again
and they did it to themselves, again
now they need EU army to occupy europe, again
fuck you all, just die, you deserve it

18thpbp

Combined with this, worrying.
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Defaming Muhammad does not fall under purview of free speech, European court rules
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The freedom of speech does not extend to include defaming the prophet of Islam, the European Court of Human rights ruled Thursday.
The Strasbourg-based ECHR ruled that insulting Islamic prophet Muhammad “goes beyond the permissible limits of an objective debate” and “could stir up prejudice and put at risk religious peace.”

The court’s decision comes after it rejected an Austrian woman’s claim that her previous conviction for calling Muhammad a pedophile, due to his marriage to a 6-year-old girl, violated her freedom of speech.
The ECHR ruled Austrian courts had “carefully balanced her right to freedom of expression with the right of others to have their religious feelings protected.” The woman, in her late 40s and identified only as E.S., claimed during two public seminars in 2009 that Muhammad’s marriage to a young girl was akin to “pedophilia.” According to Islamic tradition, the marriage between Muhammad and a 6-year-old girl was consummated when she was 9 years old and he was about 50.

The Austrian woman stated in her seminars that Muhammad “liked to do it with children” and “… A 56-year-old and a 6-year-old? … What do we call it, if it is not pedophilia?” A Vienna court convicted her in 2011 of disparaging religious doctrines, ordering her to pay a $547 fine, plus legal costs. The ruling was later upheld by an Austrian appeals court.

The ECHR said the Austrian court’s decision “served the legitimate aim of preserving religious peace.”
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Are all the politicians diddling kids abducted by Muslims? That would certainly make sense. This issue TERRIFIES them.

At the very least they need to go out fucking you one last time, for old time sake.

fuck that
bomb them before they chimp out again, I dont need my borders redrawn further west

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>But if you want immigrants so badly, then take our niggers.
We only take the ones which make it through the Alps on their own. It's a test of their determination to get to the quan.

>MUH DEMOGRAPHICS
Just fuck off to Africa, problem solved

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If you want to increase birth rates just look at (((their))) playbook and do the opposite.
Encourage Christianity, Family, the natural roles of men and women. Discourage degeneracy like porn, LGBT, feminism, drugs.

>most from the Eastern European and Russian areas

enjoy chechens

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You're giving it to migrants tho. Confusing stuff

TAKE BACK YOUR FILTHY CZECZENS REEEEEEEE
they are pickpockets and car scratchers and get beaten regularly

>Germany will need to either increase live births significantly OR import on average 250,000-300,000 people.

> slaves are dying
> import replacement slaves

The change must be cultural. Simply order your people to reproduce and they will do so, God knows you've ordered them to do everything else.

just send back the 20 million subhumans we took in the last 50 years then the demographic development is perfectly stable again, then you can wank off your micro penis to this retarded chart

Just a quick occupation.

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>get beaten regularly
You must have pretty weak chechens where you live m8. Ours are walking around with axes, machetes, knifes and nobody dares to touch them - luckily most of the time they isolate themselves and cause little problems for normal people.

>What should we do?
You know that's the excuse for the politicians right? "Well, what should we have done?"

so let it decrease lol

Look at Japan and what (((experts))) are preaching for decades now. Japan says fuck you.

>To keep population stable, Germany will need to either increase live births significantly OR import on average 250,000-300,000 people.
Why does the population have to be stable though?

Send your girlfriends to Rimini and tell them to do it bareback.

well, the old people should die, so we, the young can actually buy stuff. ever heard of the housing crisis? i don't believe those numbers at all.

The ECHR will apply to Britain post-Brexit. The ECHR is part of the Council of Europe, and Britain ain't leaving it, as it is not part of the EU (Russia is also in the Council of Europe etc.).

How does it feel to get rid of the EU and stay part of a system that says you can't say marrying a 6yr old and having sex with her at age 9 is pedophilia? Here in Germany, we have no free speech, so this is fine... but in the UK this must suck, no?

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>You must have pretty weak chechens
easternmost Poland
they are afraid and this is proper way

Modern western governments are so ideologically bankrupt that instead of admitting that their leftist policies have destroyed the birthrates of western civilization and caused population issues in the first place... they would rather import socially, culturally, and racially different peoples who will destroy the country themselves. And they are gleefully taking the easiest no-step-back route as well since they can also virtue-signal about it.

WW3 when?

Right. Also the economical growth from African immigrants is entirely artificial.
It's a huge insurance and loan scam.

Based fag.

you are a fucking moron and will live to see how your children will be slaugthered by the new germans just as they take over and you vegetate on your death bed completely helpless.

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>Germany is growing it's population
No, it's importing it. Which means it will cease to be Germany. Germany is replacing it's existence with a new hybrid state and market.

And this is all built on the basis of an "Infinite Growth" economy(which is unsustainable), because people are afraid of "regression". The problem is the longer they postpone the natural occurrence, the harder it hits when it does inevitably come back around. The only way to stop such an event from happening would be Globe-spanning communism where an "economy" doesn't exist... and communism is a wrecklessly hopeful fallacy.

There is no point to economic growth if you die as a result.

We've been discussing this (at a serious level) in my country for a few years now. It's clear environmentally that we're really struggling with the excess load of people, but our economy is heavily dependent on a rapid overpopulation. No one really has an answer beyond;
>Oh no, that sucks.

Look to your past. Back in the 5th century you invaded and conquered in Britain.Then they fought the Danes
And won their respect.Where is the unalloyed fighting spirit that forged a kingdom across the channel? Ask this of your leaders, and when you get an answer, ask yourself what the Angles, the Jutes and Saxons would do.

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Also, "growth" isn't as necessary as people make out. It is however a threat to boomers and the elite who rely on it.

What I mean by this is that in Europe and Australia, the mass of people saw a great increase in their standards of living and earnings after growth stalled and reversed (in the subsequent re-growth boom). However those at the top of the chain really struggled to hold their positions or wealth. In Britain they had to pass all sorts of laws to prohibit the "poor" masses from accumulating too much wealth and having too high a standard of living.

In my country in the early 20th Century they pretty much lost the battle and had to allow the working class to become middle class. Thankfully (for them) they were able to pass laws in the 60's and 70's to open the flood gates and import millions of non-whites. It's massively crashed our earnings and standards of living for most people, but hugely increased them for those at the top (and to be frank allowed Boomers to have a pretty great life/retirement).

I hate that term. It was drummed into us in school;
>New Australians
Thank god for identity politics redividing us.

Looks like my DNA map.

Declining population growth is only a threat to Jews and greedy boomers. No one cares.

Nigga it's clear you need to import more refugees

Nice shill

Start white breeding programs. Deport non-whites over time. Ban race mixing.

>What should we do
Ban feminism. It's time to bring back old good days when women had to be married and give birth to a couple of children

Import latinos, they are catholic at least

Shut up

Does this argument get through to normie Germans?

What pisses me off about germans is that they are a really bad ass race/culture, but they have no self respect. Philosophy, engineering, opera, and beautiful art Germany is world class. I visited you guys last year. Everyone was so polite and intelligent. Why are you abolishing your race and culture?

A lot of americans talk about multiculturalism for america, but even normie americans would be appalled at the idea of a multicultural germany. Most americans are basicly ethnic nationalists for european countries even though we act like it's so bad for ourselves.

Who gives a shit? Automation is progressing at a rapid pace which will mean millions of unemployed. Hell, France already has this problem because it imported so many.

Those shitskins won't be able to have work anymore and instead of low birthrates you have to deal with millions of unemployable, retarded shitskins who will then go on protests in the streets and destroy law and order.

Automation is the way forward. If we need more people, we just need to invest into artificial wombs.

Really nice of you Merkel. Take 25 million young and educated slavs so their countries go to shit. How wonderful of you fucking whore. And fuck everyone who supports your bullshit and thinks they are good people for doing so.

Almost half the babies born in '17 are of foreign background. Look up the articles. '18 will look worse, let's see if they brake 50% this year. Will find out soon :D

Slow genocide :D the average german slave doesn't even know it yet.

You're not allowed to post here if you're
a) a feminist
b) a cucked "man"

Immigration to germany:
>chechens
>tatars
>turks
>syrians
>afganis
>pakistanis
>Iraqis
>Libyans
>yemenians
>albanians
>Georgians
>Belarusians

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IT'S THE GOVERNMENT SHILL AGAIN, GOT KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT

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>Without a growing population economic growth cannot be maintained
Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of cancer. It's because of the thinking of turbokikes like you that my children and children's children will effectively live a lifetime of poverty all because of your demand for yearly economic growth.

>"but who will buy property?"
Lower the damn price to be more competitive among the working and middle classes. What a nightmare.
>"but who will work all of the unskilled/lowskill jobs?"
Increase the bloody wages to make your damn job more attractive. What a nightmare.

Besides, population declines aren't eternal. Even if the population of a country were to decline for a generation or two, it will eventually positively self correct via the biological imperative to keep your nation and your people alive. By doing what we're doing now, essentially refilling the cup with dirty water, we are writing off our own death sentence for our nations and people.

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>housing too expensive
>young middle class cant afford it so they wont marry and wont have kids
>population is decreasing and natives are dying out

>well we better invite millions of aggresive savages form shithole countries and give them house for free

Because what can go wrong, right? Also you get Szczecin and Gdańsk only if your country will be 100% white aryan with no niggers and shitskins

>What should we do?

1) Stop importing a replacement population that has radically different genetics, culture, and philosophy.

2) Women need to have at least 2-3 kids.

It's really THAT SIMPLE

Do that and it will all be fine.

Are Cossacks still superior over the Infidelic Tatars? Also why the fuck did Tatars move to Germany?

We can make a law that forces white to birth out 2-3 kids per family. It's not as hard

Growth is required to sustain the pyramid scheme

Why exactly do we "need" to keep the population stable? Its only important for the german corporations, the life of the germans would actually increase with a lower cost for housing, better wages since there are less people and an increase in automatisation.

The need for stable population is just a lobbylie.

Everyone dies in the end. Your argument holds no water.

shut up faggot if you retardsd didnt massacre ethnic germans after ww1 hitler wouldnt have needed to push your shit in.
t. someone whose grandmother was born in poland and moved to america as a child in the 20's

We eventually need 1 billion humans inside the borders of modern day germany. If 920 mil of them are africans that would be great because reasons,.

If you don't care about Germans dying out, when you are you so afraid about mass immigration?

tits or begone

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Its because the Rothschild banking system doesn't work if countries have a declining population.

Just let it happen, liberals die out. You may as well be saying; we need to import Han Chinese to "solve" Tibetan brithrates.

Does that mean I can finally move to Germany and fit in?!?!?

How is Germany not destined for another papa Adolf?

So glad that others have seen this. Hard times ahead. I think you will still import more Turks due to the historical relationship between the 2 countries. German business and Merkel genuinely believe they can educate a load of uneducated people from the Middle East in a decade. We will see. Evidence suggests this is hard. You will definitely have to compromise your culture doing this. There will be a pain point in 10 years where things really get bad. Also, don't look at Polish demographics. It will upset you. They are entering a period with lots of productive workers. The visegard group will become more important in Europe.

whats the problem if we arent 80 million but 60 million? in fact its good for the average person. wages will go up, house rent will go down etc. germany is the most crowded nation in the world.

>OR import on average 250,000-300,000 people.
The whole point is for the labor force, but Germany has been importing niggers that won't work (Only 3% last I checked)

>germany is the most crowded nation in the world
Rookie not seeing that this is a preparation for agenda 2020 where the Jews make you believe that ethnic Germans shouldn't have more than one child

Germans need to leave that shit hole, Germany.

>What about economic growth?
Are you fucking retarded?