Obama was a good president, best of the last 50 years

Explain to me how Obama was worse than Trump or W

also Nixon and Ford, gimme a break

>supposedly constitutional law (visiting) professor
>Commits extrajudicial assassination of US citizen and his 14 year old son
>directs CIA/NSA to capture meta data and more of US citizen without warrant
>has his top lawyer engage in illegal arms deals that kills a US officer
>5 million threads pointing out the absolute failures of that shit president
>OP still decides to be a faggot
Really gets the noggin' joggin

certainly overrated by some groups. But he was not the tragic liberal socialist muslim who destroyed the USA like everyone was frothing ato the mouth about.

He got the USA to 90%+ of everyone having health ins (up from like 68%) he didn't start any pre emptive land wars in the middle east costing 5000 lives, he presided over the housing bubble recovery by implementing sensible regulations and incentives for people to buy houses

He was/is a good family man who came from a single parent home, was not born rich, and graduated from Harvard via just hard work and is/was a good role model as a man.

In history books people will look back on it as an 8 year period between trump and W where epic stupid shit was not being caused by rich frat boy presidents who were starting wars and paying off hookers

also he killed bin ladn

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>over 300,000 manufacturing jobs lost in 8 years
>best
NOPE

We both know we could make bullet point greentexts just like that of any POTUS

overall under Obama the economy got better rather than worse, unemployment down, no pointless wars, everything didn't burn down and go to shit

>>over 300,000 manufacturing jobs lost in 8 years
Unemployment went way down overall over his presidency

do you want to sit on a line for $7.50 per hour putting legs on barbie's?

>social life
>bedtime

yeah your thread and infographic are bullshit

a bunch of nothing
admit it
he'll always be
> the first black
with absolutely no other achievements, other than dubious things like killing americans with drones, pushing the state spying, and other surrendering measures
if he had been white you'd call him a hawkish neocon

Yes, OP, injecting 4 trillion into markets, forcing subsidization of insurance companies and causing millions of deaths and a new slave trade by destabilizing 7 M.E. countries is super duper. Neck yourself, bootlicker.

>change how unemployment is calculate
>Look, it went down guys!
Again, neck yourself for being an absolute dumb nigger.

>no pointless wars
come on, man
nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/politics/obama-as-wartime-president-has-wrestled-with-protecting-nation-and-troops.html

Problem is, pulling out of Iraq led to ISIS. Half assing Libya and other foreign policies regarding the region was a contributing factor to the immigration crisis we are seeing.

He most likely does not care and would like other white people to be mixed like him.

Am I wrong?

Not fucking everything up was what we needed at that time. I am not saying he is Teddy Rosevelt or Abe Lincoln. but a good family man who would kill bin laden and get 90% of American's health care puts him over everyone but Reagan and Bush 1 without question

IMO

Oh and I honestly think it was great for him personally to be the first black president. He was well spoken and took good care of his kids and loved his wife

good role model for young niggers out there, and that is important srs

what do you think the rate of unemployment is at this moment? What do you think it was in, say 2008?

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It's pretty impressive to be in the top 25% of all presidents. Especially considering the others are people like Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, and the Roosevelts.

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In contrast, here are the bottom 25% of all presidents

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>get 90% of American's health care
by coercing them with penalties, and severely increasing the premiums

thanks, obama

I agree with that list but Andrew Jackson is really going to take a beating as time goes on..

Also i would put Reagan over Kennedy

>cleaning up after the unpopular Iraq war
If by "clean up" you mean "make 10 times worse"

>He got the USA to 90%+ of everyone having health ins (up from like 68%)
50% copay isn't "having health insurance"

>He was/is a good family man who came from a single parent home, was not born rich, and graduated from Harvard via just hard work and is/was a good role model as a man.
Irrelevant.

>epic stupid shit was not being caused

- total destruction of race relations by openly encouraging BLM shit
- the rise of trannies
- liberals abandoning any pretense of having policies and going all-in on identity politics to segregate the population and gamble their electoral future on being able to achieve third-world-dictator-running-unopposed-in-a-rigged-election level voter support from a range of minority groups

Nah, no epic stupid shit here.

>do you want to sit on a line for $7.50 per hour putting legs on barbie's?

>I'm too good for factory work so everyone else should be too. Enslaving east asia and border hoppers is a much better idea.

>who would kill bin laden

If by "kill bin laden" you mean "was lucky enough to be sitting in the oval office when some Pakastani defector walked into the US embassy and offered Bin Laden up on a platter for the $25 million reward (which Bush enacted).

>by coercing them with penalties, and severely increasing the premiums
He wanted universal healthcare, you can blame Republicans for forcing him to go through the INS companies

come on

When the media performs the art of fellatio on you 24/7 anyone would seem great.

>Son of harvard graduate
>Went to expensive private catholic elementary school
>Went to expensive prep school
>Went to expensive liberal arts college
>Transferred to expensive ivy league college
>Went to expensive ivy league law school
>Despite this everyone thinks obama was a poor boy going to public high school who worked so hard at his local community college he managed to transfer to an ivy league school

There are very few people in this country who can claim they were given a better educational track. He's not the worst president we've ever had, but his early years were closer to trumps than to someone middleclass or lower.

wew lad, no one cares about your gay opinion

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>If by "clean up" you mean "make 10 times worse"
get real

yeah we should have occupied IRAQ forever, what could go wrong

>the middle east could became unstable if we stop spending a trillion dollars and 1000 lives there every year forever!
the middle east has been unstable since forever

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>If by "kill bin laden" you mean "was lucky enough to be sitting in the oval office when some Pakastani defector walked into the US embassy and offered Bin Laden up on a platter for the $25 million reward (which Bush enacted).
Rush LImbaugh plz

so the dem list is as follows:
>guy who stole gold and got us into ww2 (apparently better than washington!)
>guy who bombed the japs
>guy who got us into ww1
>the only good democrat
>serial adulterer, wiretapped MLK, paved the way for Lyndon B "havin those niggers vote democrat for the next 200 years" Johnson after CIA opened his mind from 300 yards
>One of those niggers

>He wanted universal healthcare
and I want colonies in venus, but also know it's financially and fiscally retarded

Those are all very good points. I am going to do some more research on how much money his father had what is upbringing was like.

It made me sick in 2000 when one guy had a US Senator father and the other a POTUS father (100 sens, 1 potus, ummm coincidence anyone can grow up to be potus)

Bush and Gore even were in the same Cryptic frat "skull and bones"

Honestly I’ve only got 3 of those at any given time and l feel okay

If no one should be blamed for fucking up the mideast because 'the mideast is always unstable', then why are you blaming Bush?

>DURRR LIMBAUGH

lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden

Obama lied so fucking hard to milk Bin Laden that he pissed off everyone from the Pakistani government to his own intelligence leaders who had to continually revise the story just to keep the bullshit spewing out of Obama's mouth remotely plausible.

>inb4 a pulitzer winner and the guy who revealed My Lai is an alt-right faek n00z conspiracy theorist

and thus a compromise was reached

anyway, at least he tried and again while the Republican pres is raw dogging hookers, doing nothing about healthcare, literally tweting on the toilet everyday

at least Obama stood up and tried to do what he said he was going to do

Trump has said forever he would repeal it or do something to make it cheaper, but that isnt' happening

Spoken like a true Republican tribalist.

>If no one should be blamed for fucking up the mideast because 'the mideast is always unstable', then why are you blaming Bush?
I am blaming bush for starting an occupation of a large country in the mid east. Getting 5000 US citizens killed, and costing enough money per year to pay for the health care of eveyrone uninsured the USA during that time.

It would be like if we knew downtown detroit was a shit hole so we moved there and and spent a trillion dollars a year for no reason

>orange man bad

>Trump has said forever he would repeal it or do something to make it cheaper, but that isnt' happening
Individual mandate is dead, it will fall apart on its own (10 times faster than it already was). Actual repeal was never an option considering how fucked congress is/was.

>It would be like if we knew downtown detroit was a shit hole so we moved there and and spent a trillion dollars a year for no reason

>in other news, the reason Detroit is such a shithole is because we aren't giving them enough free money.

Trump isn’t racist as obama.

>Obama lied so fucking hard to milk Bin Laden that he pissed off everyone from the Pakistani government to his own intelligence leaders who had to continually revise the story just to keep the bullshit spewing out of Obama's mouth remotely plausible.
The day Obama took office he went to the head of the CIA and told him "Finding Bin Laden is now your No.1 priority"

shit did not "fall in his lap" W literally quit looking and thought he did a good job by bombing the shit out of iraq and afgansitan and getting 5000 of or troups killed and more wounded

I honestly think if Obama had been elected in 2000 he would have done the same, found him and executed him, sanctioned the shit out of afganistan, and the USA as a whole would have been FAR better off

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>Individual mandate is dead, it will fall apart on its own (10 times faster than it already was). Actual repeal was never an option considering how fucked congress is/was.
You are probably right or at least there is a good chance of that happening someday, and yes repeal was not an option (but does that not mean most people in the USA are voting for congressmen who won't vote away Obamacare?)

Point being some homeless guy walks into a hospital with a hurt leg and they do $5000 in treatment

who pays?

Obama was the lawyer for ACORNN that caused a financial collapse by suing financial institutions to guarantee subprime rates for niggers. He is the worst president in American history

>shit did not "fall in his lap"

> In August 2010 a former senior Pakistani intelligence officer approached Jonathan Bank, then the CIA’s station chief at the US embassy in Islamabad. He offered to tell the CIA where to find bin Laden in return for the reward that Washington had offered in 2001.

>Point being some homeless guy walks into a hospital with a hurt leg and they do $5000 in treatment

The government, whether they have obamacare or not. In either case the homeless dude wouldn't pay anything, because they don't have anything to pay.

If you're poor with a shitty obamacare plan, any significant medical bill is still going to bankrupt you; owing $50,000 instead of $100,000 isn't doing you any material favors. The only difference is the hospital has an easier time getting at least *some* money out of the situation now.

>Good president
>Can't point to one legislative/foreign policy accomplishment
No ObamaCare is not in accomplishment when everyone hates it

>The government, whether they have obamacare or not. In either case the homeless dude wouldn't pay anything, because they don't have anything to pay.
Oh, they pay. You pay an I pay.

If some homeless dude racks up $5000 in care in then leaves and the gvt or ins do not reimburse... what happens? Well since this happens all the damn time what they do is charge everyone else more to make up the loss. Asprin is not $7 a pill at the hospital for no reason, you are paying for asshat homeless guy

The question is, if you don't turn him away...

who do you want to pay?

Imagine if 30% of the people who came into a restaurant skipped out on the check. Prices have to go up for everyone. You cant say "nobody pays the hospital, problem sovled"

He was the worst President in the entire history of the United states. The only one who would arguably give him contest in that horribleness would be Andrew Jackson or possibly Richard Nixon.

What difference does it make if we pay via Obamacare subsidies or $7 asprin? The hospital probably gets *more* taxpayer money now than they did before.

>you are paying for asshat homeless guy

Such compassion.

1. Nixon was not a horrible POTUS he was just in on a robbery/break in
2. Herbert Hoover, Grant, warren fucking harding

get real

>Obama was a good president
i respect your opinion and agree to disagree, relatively he was decent however
nah kill yourself neocon subhuman. you should be cut into pieces and fed to sharks.

Nixon was HORRIBLE he took us off the Gold standard and basically caused our economy to be in the current fucked over position that we are in currently.

>1. Nixon was not a horrible POTUS he was just in on a robbery/break in
He didn't even know about it until long after it happened. The only thing he did wrong was going along with the attempted coverup.

Any time you hear a media asshat say "the coverup is worse than the crime", it's because in 1974 the coverup was the part that allowed them to ruin Nixon's career. Trump cleverly avoids this trap by taking much more of a "Yeah I fucked that skank, so what?" approach.

>What difference does it make if we pay via Obamacare subsidies or $7 asprin? The hospital probably gets *more* taxpayer money now than they did before.
It matters because it's ineffciant and causes unforseen problems. I could go on four hours but a few are...

This is what people always do who are against universally health acces "the gvt pays anyway via taxes, problem solved " - the problem is not solved but you are saying you are ok wth universal heathcare de facto so let's just implement it.

>What difference does it make if we pay via Obamacare subsidies or $7 asprin?

It keeps billion dollar health ins companies alive for no fucking reason. They just chrun and burn paperwork and employ 100,000 people who sit there facebooking all day. This drives costs up. Health ins companies are not needed if the payer of last resort is taxes vie the gvt

It REALLY hurts people you probably want to be like, such as those making $130,000 per year who do not get subsiides, so now those people have $900 a mont health ins because if they get sick they have to buy $7 aspirin to cover the homeless guy's heart attac

This is what was pricing people out of the market if you make $33,000 per year and if you get sick have to tens of thousands at the hospital in jacked up prcies for those who cant pay...

what really happens is those who pay for health ins are paying for everyone else's care AND their own

so what is the solution friendo?

way to misunderstand anything i said

>If you're poor with a shitty obamacare plan, any significant medical bill is still going to bankrupt you; owing $50,000 instead of $100,000 isn't doing you any material favors. The only difference is the hospital has an easier time getting at least *some* money out of the situation now.
I agree but why not get rid of the health ins companies all together?

what do they do? why do they need to exist?

>Nixon was HORRIBLE he took us off the Gold standard
would you like to know how I know you have never read a good book on american history in your life?

Would you like to know how I know you think you are a "libertarian"?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Reserve_Act

Universal healthcare would be great, if someone can find a way to do it without raising taxes a billion percent and fucking up the quality of care. There's close to zero chance it happens in the foreseeable future, though, so it's hardly worth thinking about. OTOH it's still more likely to happen under Trump than it would've been under Hillary, so you got that going for you.

Obamacare was a retarded idea and a clusterfuck for the reasons you mention and more. You can't admit that and then simultaneously hold it up as the thing that made Obama BEST PREZIDANT EVAR.

opensecrets.org/pres16/select-industries?ind=F09

>Selected Industry Totals
>Insurance
>Hillary Clinton (D) $2,694,914
>Donald Trump (R) $1,046,962

>the thing that made Obama BEST PREZIDANT EVAR.
well see i never said that, but with most other presidents there is something really horrible they did (or many things)

I don't think you can hold up obama care as why he sucked though.

Point being he was supposed to be a socialist kenyan who was going to ruin america

and everything is still OK, recover from housing bubble and recession, and Obama was an OK to good potus

agreed