>AfD 12% only OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

And this is the reason why afd will never win in any country in no form what so ever.

This is not about Immigrants.
This is about hating america.

nah for Splitting apart from the US and forming the United staates of Europe.

How is it on loosing side?
Trump will be gone soon.
You whole system crumbling down and Europe taking over.

Interesting, in the Netherlands we also see GroenLinks (green left) growing at the cost of traditional leftist parties like PvdA (labour party) and SP (socialist party). But I think as a whole the left isn't really growing by much, there's just the movement from the traditional parties to the more modern green parties.

At a lower rate the same kind of thing is happening on the right, where a quite new party FvD (forum for democracy, against EU and mass-imigration, and for more direct democracy for example in the form of referenda) is growing in the polls at the cost of the more traditional right-wing party VVD but also stealing a bit from the PVV, the traditional anti-islam, anti-immigration party.

I'm don't know how it is in other countries but I think this change isn't that unwelcome. I'd rather have a real left and a real right than these old parties full of people where you wonder if they're there for their career and to defend the interests of certain companies or actually because of their convictions and skills.

>environmental, pro-immigration Green party
The fucked part about German "democracy" is that these two are inextricably linked.
If I could I would vote green on environmental issues and afd/NPD on immigration.
Many Germans probably feel similar

You mean the afd hates america?
I'm not sure I understood your post.

Germs are the ultimate NPC, soulless, robbed out of their soul, I'm afraid they will never wake up

That sounds bad but how can germans still not vote for afd?
Rather live in a smog filled city with a reactor neighbouring than fill the country with brown.

I never understood this in politics. The Canadian political party is like that too, Pro-progressive, Pro-immigration, Pro environment and so crazy they're against GMOs and some are even anti vaccine. I wish we had large issue type parties that were more varied.

Rip cuck germany

b-but brexit is bad

Yes, because all if them voted SPD last time. The left side overall gets weaker every election.

Germans are cucks and their women smell

Are Germans finally uncucking?

>paki politics comprehension

AfD is now represented in all 16 German lands, making it one of two parties that have achieved this in this legislative cycle. Greens did have a spike, but that was due to disenfranchised SPD voters that turned their backs on their party, nothing else. Overall, the left is at a historic low all across Germany, while AfD has seen an exponential growth in all elections.

tl;dr learn some god damn politics and stop raping british kids

>I-it's growing stronger
Fucking brainlet.
>the greens are getting SPD votes that's it
And the afd is getting CDU votes too. But guess who's on 19.5% and who's on 11%
The further we get from the 2015 migrant crisis the less potent anti-immigration issue will be. It's now or never.
>muh presence in all regions
Presence at 10%! Congrats! Everyone's a winner! Gypsies I swear..

Can you imagine Germany finally coming to their senses and Britain still can't Brexit
Meanwhile the rest of the world is going right, and London is going Muslim.
Sad.

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Germany is a nation of cucks, their men all died in WW2, they are left with only women now, even if some of them got a beard

You don't seem to understand - if they had this growth in Hesse, which hosts one of the most liberal towns in all of Germany (Frankfurt) + what has already happened all across the country, it roughly means that the anti-immigration issue is as relevant as ever. If you'd actually checked the polls, you'd know that AfD has the highest exponential growth compared to all the other political parties in Germany.

Now, go bother some schoolkids, you piece of filth.

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AfD got a better score than last time compare to Green
AfD : +9,1%
Green : +8,6%

It's not even possible to be "pro-environment" if you support mass-immigration. Carbon emissions per capita are far higher in the developed world than in the third-world. That's simple math.

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based green party

If climate change is real, wouldn’t you want to end all immigration from low carbon-emitting areas? Cucks always crow about how third world shitholes don’t need to clean up their act because their carbon expenditure per person is so low. Importing millions of shitskins makes things worse, yes?

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White people literally have no idea what’s going on. The academic-media matrix has completely hypnotized Whites worldwide. Even after our actual slaughter begins most Whites will believe the teevee man that everything is fine. It’s almost comical at this point in the game.

My thoughts exactly, mass immigration increases population, which in turn require more food, energy, transportation, etc.

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Pro-environment is just something they use to suck in all the fools who'd normally be anti immigration. The main policy of Green parties has always been to flood the west with rapeugees. They are marxists through and through.

Greens are like Commies back in 1920s. A bit of excitement but ultimately We all know what happened to them when nsdap won.

unironically this, the Greens are the only party in Germany that still hasn't shifted its stance regarding limitless immigration. In fact, they've doubled down on this issue lately, even promoting themselves as "the only party that cares for the immigrants". Hell, the leader of the Greens in Hesse is a god damn muzzie, for fuck's sake.

>is the damage reversable
This is why the Jews invented gas chambers user

Germany is cucked. Greens are even worse than Merkel. And AfD are controlled opposition.

What the fuck is with Germans

these are not normal people

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There exists not a single reason to vote the greens. The results are probably manipulated.

That's it, I'm convinced.

The ONLY thing that will cause Germany to wake up at this point is total civilizational breakdown.

Germans were Guals like, literal snow-forest niggers

This desu

they are attracting the radical left electorate that used to vote SPD fanatically, that's why SPD is hemorrhaging votes. In Hesse, the radical left went towards Linke and the Greens, it does make sense if you think about it. This will happen one time only thought, the Greens will not be able to hold unto these results for long, trust me. What's good now is the fact that the German political scene is as fractured as ever (pretty reminiscent of the Weimar Republic, if you ask me), which in turn will make the entire electorate polarize more and more.

give it some more time and it will happen. If things go like this for the next year or so, Germany will reach a point where there will be a constant political gridlock that will benefit only AfD, provided they won't fuck up in the meanwhile. Gauland's approach at making the Germans proud again of their national heritage (thousand years German glory), whilst burying the Nazi paradigm deep underground, is kinda working if you look at the polls. Nationalism is on the rise, don't you worry

The same hand is financing them.
Our 5S movement started with strong green ideas and hada very shady stance on immigration.
We got saved by Lega and from a repositioning of the 5S, still don't trust them.

>is the damage still reversable?
It'll be a long time before it's not reversible.

What is a gual China has no cultural influence in the west we don't know what this word means

>White people literally have no idea what’s going on.
The power of propaganda is real I guess.
I was always in a believer of the argument "But if people wouldnt watch it.." because when I was younger I was more libertarian.
I really just only a step away from admitting people might need sombody to guide them, its just so fucking sad though.

>It'll be a long time before it's not reversible.
How would it be still reversible?
Dont want to sound like sargoy but "I'm genuinely interested.".

I guess nowadays or at least soon goverments have to power to just make a virus which only targets black dna or something.

>gual
Speak engrish you kitten- eating sunhuman

you people are really so retarded you'll never get the point: it's not about immigrants, immigrants are nothing, crime rates stayed the same since '80s, just now most of criminals are immigrants because they are the new low class, the future working class.
it's about keeping europe unite, to keep a strong money waiting for next america crysis and take their place.

>immigrants are nothing
what the hell are you talking about.
immigrants are the greatest plague and I mean that unironicly.
A people can survive the most horrible things, but once their genetics change its game over forever. Happened again and again and again over the course of history. How is that still deniable.

>crime rates stayed the same since '80s
Most crimes at that time were caused by turks and east european people. So the most low IQ people that they brought into the country.

Why have immigration at all hmm?
Here its 0.8% and it already feels too much.Many crimes by foreigners.
Why not bring a couple thousand very intelligent people for a couple years to teach us, pay them VERY VERY well and send them back. Everybody benefits.
Even if you would bring High IQ blacks only into the country, their children wont be anywhere near the country average.

>it's about keeping europe unite, to keep a strong money waiting for next america crysis and take their place.
Right, just bundle a few logs of shit together and wait till they start working lol
Its all about unity!!! (But what if those people dont want unity? Hmmm..., guess thats you white and asian peoples fault isnt it)

Your post honestly triggered me, that and including the stupid pirate flag.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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t.the cause of everything thats wrong with Germany right now

think about history over all
white populations were even lower
all it takes is for whites to start fucking having babies again.

No we're totally fucked. I don't even enjoy trolling anymore. I wish I never took the redpill. Fucking sucks. Get me off this board.

>I guess nowadays or at least soon goverments have to power to just make a virus which only targets black dna or something.
Look up project MKNaomi, they tried that with HIV and it backfired spectacularly because if two infected people have unprotected sex it resets their death clock

mmmm.... 3/10 bait... do better
>it's not about immigrants, immigrants are nothing
immigration is everything. just because you love shoving nigger dick down your throat doesn't mean that non-niggerlovers dont care about immigration

>Germans
>invaded by millions of "refugees"
>can't walk outside past 21:00
>tens of thousands of German women raped
>thousands of Germans dead at the hands of said refugees
>88% still vote for this
>the more cucked part of the 88% actually rising

>Italians
>refugee boats land in Italy before going to Germany
>zero terrorist attacks
>swing far right
>will crash the EU
>globalists screeching in rage
What is wrong with Germans?

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>a-at least we stopped exploiting our natural recourses

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Look on the bright side: as Germany kills itself with ecoterrorist shit and refugees, it will drop in influence and power, taking out a big chunk of globalist power.

nope, the large majority of the crimes is *always* made by lowest class, no matter the origin. In Italy in the 80s, before the start of immigration flow, the crimes were committed by italian low class. the crime rate in italy constantly decreased in the years, *despite* immigration, and turned back increasing in 2012, with the start of the last big economic crysis. there are no interpretation about this data, it's simply reality speaking for itself.
> inb4 italians europeans nigger: italian has highst average-iq of western countries
the race is involved when it's statistically connected with average income, like the sons of the sons of America slaves, which de facto occupied the lowest classes. Meritocracy is related to a minimum part of population because "social elevator" is almost still, despite the medias tell a different story, describing stories of "people who succeded becoming rich from zero". the sons of rich and bourgoise niggers, which received a top class education, have similiar crime rate than whites with a similiar story.

this is an answer for you, wrong reply

Green requires a massive drop in quality of life and huge increase in food costs yet they want to bring in a bunch more people. What's sad is these people congratulate themselves on their intelligence.

Why am I even still here?

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oh someone is projecting... no i never tried nigger dick because where i live we should have mass immigration for at least 100 years to become mixed like your fucked up country.
immigrant in my opinion are not welcome, they just arrive here thinking they will become rich niggas and nevertheless they become the rank and file of maphias, or slaves of our landowners.
obviously they cause a *relative* increase of crimes, but mainly in peripherals zones. you know, the new poors stealing from the soons of the ex-poors

It's all reversible.
There will be balcanization there will be civil wars and there will be millions of dead people.
Democracy won't fix it tho, that's impossible.
Do what you can for yourself and the people you love.
Wait for the inevitable civil war and prepare.
It always happens look at history. Society will be shocked and it will be sudden but I'm one hundred percent sure it will happen in a not very distant future.

>, the new poors stealing from the soons of the ex-poors
so true.
I heard from all the for example swedish or japanese, immigrant criminals abroad as well. I bet they steal in your country as well, so horrible and shameful.
>the large majority of the crimes is *always* made by lowest class, no matter the origin.
Maybe, but why are they "low class" in the first place?
And we dont have many "low class" people steal here. Even homeless take off their shoes in the tent and try to live without bothering others.

>It's all reversible.
Well I hope you are right, because if europe is gone I know whos next user.
>Wait for the inevitable civil war and prepare.
Guess thats the most solid advice thats possible to give. Prepare and wait.

Hesse is host to Germany's Pozopolis, Frankfurt-am-Negerschwanze.
That they are getting +10% there is good news, they are getting more than double that in pretty much every 'state' in Germany.

JUST POZ MY COUNTRY UP PHAMILY.

The Green Party in any country is an automatic red flag to avoid avoid avoid!

Seriously you avoid them, you don't elect them.

Have you seen Elizabeth may? Sees the drink wine aunt that sells scentsy and healing crtstals

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I can tell you that here, 30 years ago, local poor people were seen just like immigrants now, we should have a larger in-time vision about criminal phenomenon.
and japan is not a good example because you have lower criminal rates *in general*: you have strong cultural antibodies against crime, surely stronger than western people. moreover, like us italian, you had the luck to lose a world war and then being massively financied by the winners, arriving to the paradox that japan and italy have higher average life expectancy and iq than the people living in the country of which we are vassals (USA).
> but why are they "low class" in the first place?
mostly, because their parents are poor. i repeat, if the social elevator is stuck the chain of poverty is way longer than a life, it lasts generations with the exceptions of few poor "champions" and few rich "brainlets"

As always Jow Forums acts retarded when any right wing party in Europe isnt going full Anschluss.

You Morons dont seem to see the bigger picture, especially in this case.
The Green party is here around the 80s, in the beginning they were secretly supported by the Stasi, seeing them as a good way to subvert West Germany. At the beginning the Green Party had they typical left wing, socialist, unwashed post 68 Revolution scum that had one topic what wasnt cared about before: Environment. Chernobyl, the myth of dying german Woods through sour Rain, the whole drama about the Hole in the Ozone Layer over Antarctica were the base for their success.
In the last 10-15 years there was a switch in the background of the Voters. More or less young, educated and wealthy citizens together with civil servants switched to the Greens because it became " cool ", heavily pushed by the Media where at least 80% of all Journalists are themselves supporting the Green party.
These wealthy voters live far away from the Neighbourhood were the Rapefugees are running around and they have enough money to pay for all the environment bullshit the green party comes up with.

In this situation comes a party like the AfD, just four years ago, heavily demonized right from the start by our public media that is funded with 8 Billion Euros every year and they still managed to get into every federal parliament in every election and in most of them with double numbers.
And yet you damn living Brain Donors - most of you living in countries like Britain, France, Canada or USA which are even far more fucked by Immigration than us are acting like dumb Children just screaming " CUUUUUCKED " instead of realizing that every one of us is in this struggle for survival of the white race and civilization together.

I dont agree but I think I understand your point now user.
Thanks for laying it out, was an interesting read.

>As always Jow Forums acts retarded when any right wing party in Europe isnt going full Anschluss.
I think people see the urgency. With less time you need more drastic measures to turn it around.
I dont think germany has 12 yrs left until afd crawls to the top and then not even alone.
With demographic shifts it will become harder with each passing year.
More "new young german" voters, less older people who are actually german dying off.
% of Islamists doubles pretty much every 20 years and there is no sign of it stopping. Even 4 years seems like an eternity for people.
And like my first post above,going full Anschluss is pretty much the only way to turn it around. No way to integrate the current people even if you invest tons and tons of money that the tax payer cant give. Too many too fast. The most stupid as well.

Its one way in saying that things need to chnage fast but its another blaming and laughing at a specific country while your own country has the same fucking issues or even worse.
Realize what kind of a system you are fighting: In our case one that - as i said - funds the public media with 8 Billion Euros every ear and you cant get out of this or you get prosecuted. The schools and universities are filled with leftists, just as the media. The ones who made the so called "68er Revolution " learned their marxist lessons well and went directly to key government positions because they they had plenty of time without competition from the private job market or the fear of losing your job.
This marxist cocktail brew for at least 40 years and you see the results now. Countering that isnt going overnight.

Red Pill Germany, is that you?

Nah you're pretty much finished m8.

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>blaming and laughing at a specific country
Its just Jow Forums culture, you souldnt let it get to you.
I think after you reached a certain level of redpill all that dulls the pain is good old banter. I unironically think the people on here care more than most.

No I'm not but funny that you ask that, because years ago some videos of the guy popped up in my feed.

banter actually comes from a smart mind, i highly doubt that here when it comes to the majority of posters throwing in the same old pictures, data and memes.

Congratulations than you finally reached your Goal. Too bad that you are falling into that Pit, too.

>Is there (peaceful) solution to still turn it around??
No

Thats regional not national. What was their previous result?