Venus or Mars

nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/nasa-climate-modeling-suggests-venus-may-have-been-habitable
Well Jow Forums , wheres your mars memes now? Turns out Venus could have been habitable. We know Mars at one point had an atmosphere and was active with potential for life: we see the remans of volcanos and there was water there. Is this some kind of distraction, jewish trick or were the ancient alien astronauts from Venus and not Mars? Could there have been a time when Venus, Earth, and Mars were habitable at the same time?

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If the habitable zone of our solar system once extended to Mars, and we know our son will cool and thus the same zone decrease (cooling Earth) then it seems to me like one day the same zone we're in now will be situation over Venus.

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> cooling Earth
ameritard education, everyone. what a fucking spastic.

at least hes contributing to the discussion you massive faggot

Who cares when we haven't even been to the moon

i saw the moon once through the window sill of my humble home in the country side but it was all but too late as it was your mom in the streets glistening from the sweat of walking around that made the optical illusion

space is flat

Life/Civilization starting on Venus makes most sense honestly. We known that the younger Sun was fainter, so Earth would be too cold to be habitable, Mars even more so.
That said, you can see ruins on Mars from orbit, while can't see shit on Venus because the atmosphere is too thick. Radar imaging works on Venus, but that was done only once in 1990s with the goal of figuring overall topography and not finding ruins.

i've seen more esoteric symbolism having to do with saturn than venus but ive tried to keep my eyes open to it, surely if life/civilization started on mars then there would have been some story somewhere from the ancients about it (im sure theres something about it somewhere)

No ruins on mars

well, Venus have the same gravity as earth and would acommodate us better than Mars on that front... other than that the surface is literal hell, we will have to find a way to rapidly cool it and introduce large amounts of water back, I consider this to be a long term project of humanity that would not even begin properly until after mars is colonized

>life on Venus
>with literal acid as your atmosphere

did someone say acid rain?

It doesn't really matter because Venus surface is really young, less that 500 million years old.
So any traces of life or water is gone for good.

> i've seen more esoteric symbolism having to do with saturn than venus
Pic related is the symbol of Venus. Also, Venus is often visible before sunrise = Morning Star = Light Bringer = Lucifer
> if life/civilization started on mars then there would have been some story somewhere from the ancients about it
Use John Carter of Mars as a starting point.

alot of studies claim it could have been habitable as early as 700 million years ago for up to 2 billion years, im pretty sure life on earth they claim has been here for like 3 and a half billion years so appearently its possible that both venus and earth were habitable at the same time, but earth was habitable first

Venus is pretty comfy 50km above the surface.
Fuck the suraface, import metals from the Moon in exchange for gases.

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wheres the pic though?
isnt the female symbol that of venus? Aphrodite?

Venus symbol, does that look familiar?

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what about this?

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> isnt the female symbol that of venus?
There is an interpretation that the Snake of Eden was female, possibly even Lilith herself. Since Lilith was a total slut like Aphrodite/Venus, we may be talking the same character...

>Could there have been a time when Venus, Earth, and Mars were habitable at the same time?

Incredibly unlikely, though once you start throwing around cosmologic time scales... yeah, in a proto-sense they might have been able to develop similarly.

The case is stronger for Venus than Mars. The oppressive atmosphere of Venus likely arose from an enormous outgassing of carbon that is, on Earth, mostly trapped within-- likely due to enormous tidal forces.

I didn't say it impossible.
But still, global resurfacing event without signs of impact but with extensive volcanism is not a good sign for life.
Most likely it happened before many times, just like trap erruptions on Earth.

Pic related.
Plus isotopic ratios on Mars are fucked up in a way consistent with nuclear weapons...

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>Venus or Mars
Why not both?

all you tards seem to forget the part of Venus rotating slow af, even if you could reverse shit a planet with one side roasting for 117 days while the other is in frost would be retarded to live on

Venus was spectacularly fucked up, and it happened relatively recently (< 1 billion years ago).

>our *sun will cool and thus the same zone decrease
nah, the sun will expand and roast the Earth

hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2015/pdf/2660.pdf

apparently there was a large nuclear explosion on mars
youtube.com/watch?v=voryIzZvRzA

This poster is correct however, regardless of climate fluctuations (which are normal) Earth won’t be outside of the habitable zone for billions of years
That being said I really do believe terraforming Venus would be a lot easier than terraforming Mars

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also

The atmospheric pressure at the planet's surface is 92 times that of Earth, or roughly the pressure found 900 m (3,000 ft) underwater on Earth.

We would have to add an artificial moon, for earth can attribute its 24 hour system thanks to our moon

The ancient aliens used to live on Venus. Slow disclosure

I'm gonna need a source on that

and also let's not forget that venus also doesn't have a magnetic field

apparently they didnt need a moon

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nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/nasa-climate-modeling-suggests-venus-may-have-been-habitable )

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earthsky.org/earth/moonless-earth

scientificamerican.com/article/earth-rotation-summer-solstice/

>In the early Carboniferous period some 350 million years ago an Earth year was around 385 days, ancient corals indicate, meaning not that it took longer for the planet to revolve around the sun, but that a day–night cycle was less than 23 hours long.

It's an interesting topic I only learned semi recently myself.

So it's true... men are from mars and women are from venus...

We could disperse a few tons of gold nanoparticles into Venus atmosphere and it would be habitable within 100 years due to catalytic reduction and radiation shielding.

Both isotopic hotspots are where the ruins are.
Galaxia Chaos and Cydonia.

that is pretty fucking interesting, I really never would've thought that mattered, always seemed to me it had more to do with when the planet was first formed and fell into it's orbit , the sun's gravity, things going on in the core, and maybe large object hitting it, you know like how the moon supposedly hit the earth a long time ago, I'm sure that had impact on our speed too

okay, but what do you guys think about
>and also let's not forget that venus also doesn't have a magnetic field
>The atmospheric pressure at the planet's surface is 92 times that of Earth, or roughly the pressure found 900 m (3,000 ft) underwater on Earth.

it still seems very impractical and too much effort to try to settle there

You're a human with pattern recognition.

No one said there was intelligent life on Mars, and besides the whole surface is kill. They got hit by a moon-sized object that obliterated the atmosphere (and any bodies of water) and the loss of that object in its orbit probably cooled off the core and ended all magnetic activity. They got it far worse than just climate change or a nuclear apocalypse.

idk if your familiar with Telsas concept of an electric universe and that its not gravity that holds the position of planets but its charges like that of the atoms which keeps the planets in their orbits and keeps them in their places and keeps the largest bodies from crashing into each other, the smalles of things (meteors, asteroids ect) are the electrons so to speak, flinging across time and space much like how electricity works

Teslas*

I actually watched a docu about that some time ago, seemed interesting but what's your point? Are you saying that in relation to the part about the moon hitting us?

no, that rotation, spin or "angular momentum" is also involved in the quantum and electric models, if you see the universe through the eyes of the electric universe its possible that the spin is expressing a level of energy or frequency or both for all i know

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in the case of planets the "atomic nucleai" is the core of the planet

I see, interesting point. Do you happen to know what the electric universe model's explanation for magnetic fields is?

Yes, the Mexican space agency has never been to the moon, what's your point?

Probably ancient republicucks who refused to cut down on carbon emissions.

Venus is inhabited humans just suck at looking because we base our idea of livable conditions on what is found here on earth

Venus doesn't have a moon to make it habitable.

NASA is a gang of retards that can only sell t shirts to pop sci commoners at this point.

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not offhand, pretty sure i knew it at some point but im too lazy right now to go check it out

Mars lost its atmosphere due to solar winds, making it have no gree house effect.

Venus is stupid hot because it traps heat like a solar pizza oven.

>We known that the younger Sun was fainter
Only for a brief time

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