So, I tried reaching out to Jow Forums cause I think you guys have a handle on politics when it comes to unbiased views...

A little too pretentious?

Innocent until proven guilty
Where is your evidence to support your opinion that he is crazy.

and more importantly do we need empirical evidence to have an opinion now. what if their is no evidence. What if we need to form the opinion first to be able to even search for the evidence.

Oh the Horror! Stephen Hawking was right, cause and effect are not a thing in the Universe!

Damn you black holes!

>i think Jow Forums has unbiased views
>not bait
Yeah, nah. Fuck off faggot, we’re full.

MY SALSA SCHOOL IS IN NAGASAKI COOL EH?

Imagine being so retarded and out of touch with reality, you would come on here instead of opening a book or using a search engine on how many deaths socialism and communism caused.

I think you should listen to your friend.
Or just KYS.
Either way never ever post here again.

OP loves trannies

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Check out this sheep Fucking faggot potato!!!

Holy shit NZ truly retarded

Why are you guys so hostile? I'm just looking for help? I don't know where to look so I came here looking for answers. Maybe I'm asking the wrong questions? Maybe it's the way I phrased my question?

Do you guys think ALL feminist are problematic? Do women deserve to be second-class citizens? Is the masculinity of men really being threatened?

I DON'T KNOW. PLEASE EXPLAIN.

A counter argument requires an argument. All we've seen is a sheep Fucking kiwi accuse his mate of mental illness on a Owl Pellet Dissectin forum.

>A friend of mine seems to think all women are evil, leftist are bad, all feminists are against men, and masculinity of men is being threatened.
Did he say "all", or did you assert this is his position?
>Am I wrong to assume he is crazy?
Yes
>Where is the empirical evidence to support this radical theory?
Depends on if you framed his argument coherently. Beliefs don't have to be from anything absolute. Usually with things like this, it's anecdotal.
>How can I persuade him that his outlook is jaded?
It would be jaded if this is his position. I don't know why that matters in regards to it being true or false.

First of all, I'm Australian.

Secondly, I just want to know if his statements are reality?

Well... considering all the drama around these things he does have some base in reality... lets begin, with the women We must think of the exceptionalism of individual, with the leftists as i have infiltrated them i can say otherwise, the feminists he in my view is correct, the masculanity is only threatened by the mainstream fags. You’re not wrong to have some worries about him genosen.

>I just want to know if his statements are reality?
Do you mean, if his statements reflect reality?

Obvious bait, but burden of proof anyways.

Yeah, he switches from saying ALL and 80% of women.

It matters because it's my belief that he needs a healthier mindset on political views like this and I'm not sure how to tackle it.

From what you've manged to post so far, it seems to me that you're the one with the mental illness, not your friend.

So what if he's right and a "better view" is just a feel-good band-aide to prevent exposure to the truth?

None of us have mental illness, it's just a figure of speech. Calm your tits.

Oh, you should have said that to begin with you wacky cunt! Missing that sweet Roo tang, right?

Then you need to pin him down on his actual argument, instead of taking his hyperbolic shit talking as fact. Guys tend to shit talk like this a lot, I would when i'd break up with a girl in my twenties until i'd get a new girlfriend. Some guys just say shit to say shit.

However you want to word it, yes.

What a stupid little faggot you are

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Do you have any empirical evidence for your belief? Didn't think so, ya wacky cunt!

Here let me fill you in.

We don't care about your friend or you. You're a couple of fucking faggots and you are the bigger one for coming on here looking for help in policing someone's thoughts.

Here's a better idea. Go fuck yourself. Seriously. Shut the fuck up and get off of this board. No one here cares about your personal problem or your faggot bottom's politics.

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Well if his statements are reality, we could be discussing whether concepts are reality. This is me having you clarify your position so our discussion doesn't get mixed up in the slop. This is what your first issue is with you and your friend.

Are you taking the piss? The burden of proof is on him.

But those wording mean different things. One set of words means he speaks words that comport with, or reflect, observed reality. Your wording implies anything this fucker says becomes real by his act of speech. Basically, your crazy friend is God. Learn to write your thoughts in English, cunt.

Stay angry, bro.

If he's offering evidence within his argument is he not providing proof?

He isn't even here. You stated a belief you hold. I asked for evidence. Admit it, you DO have Down Syndrome, don't you?

What kind of idiot would think that? You could gather what I was trying to convey. How fucking autistic are you in social gatherings, cunt?

OP, you've come to the wrong place to discuss actual politics. This board consists of no more than weaponised autism and a collective hate for leftists and jews.

It's purely opinion based. He should provide some sort of evidence to his claims. Not just cherry picking YouTube videos to win his arguments about Youtubers I couldn't give a shit about.

And now you're entertaining the trolls while someone's giving you sound advice. You're either a troll yourself or don't want your question answered.

/thread

You're just going to play the victim now? lol

>play the victim
I'm the only one trying to help you. If you want to play this petty nonsense game, then go ahead.

...If the YouTube videos do provide evidence that support his belief then what is he missing?
You say it's opinion based, what do the YouTube videos say that lead him to that conclusion?

Yeah, nah. None of you are actually tackling the points head-on. You're just giving me the runaround and trolling.

Don't worry about it. You're a bunch of cunts and too anti-social for my liking. I'm out. Peace.

P.S. Verification is AIDs

OP you should have known Jow Forums would quickly recognize your friend as a fellow autist with a loose grip on reality and defend him.

Since you asked.

youtube.com/watch?v=RT3I7TdPP3g

At social gatherings, I'm not surrounded by retards who can't express themselves and expect others to gather things to compensate for their own inadequacy.

thank god, you clearly don't understand Jow Forums LOL

Cool, man. I don't care. You're a fuckwit. I hope you understand what I'm trying to REFLECT.

>Where is the empirical evidence
>implying I'm going to do free research for you

Why don't you go drink some gook semen instead?

Cool story, bro. Changed my life.

I would argue you don't have a 'friend' who holds these values. You're trying to shrug the burden of proof to come to this conclusion so people can try to answer your scripted question. You know, you could have just asked the people who actually believe that instead of doing this silly runaround.

I mean he's wrong if he says that all women are retarded based on this video but he's justified with his claims that masculinity is under attack, within a certain limitation.
He's surely posted or viewed more in relation to his other views.

If that's what you want to believe, go ahead.

Lurk more faggot. If you want information there is plenty here, but no one was spoon fed and we sure as hell aren't going to spoon feed some roo fucking emu sucking jew.

No one cares, Autist.

tits or gtfo, hole, no ones going to hold your hand here
kys

Tell me the honest answer before you leave, i'm curious as to if i'm right or not.

Well, I didn't make the post for shits and giggles.

I was looking for people's viewpoints here. Instead, I got a bunch of condescending bullshit and autism.

Lurk moar fagget

See When people give you answers and you're not acknowledging the answers, maybe its you who's the problem? Don't ask for help if you don't want it.

op is a faggot

Don't worry about it. I'll just continue doing my own research.

tptb are trying to breed a subordinate underclass, and this involves dismantling any existing tightly-nit fraternal social structures, particularly in politics, media, and education.

women and leftists assume the best in people and their agreeable dispositions and psychology present a large attack surface for social engineers to work with.

Being well adjusted to a profoundly sick society is not a sign of health friend. We should be chasing the stars like in your op image. We have had the technology for decades to shoot 500 tons to LEO a go for tens to hundreds of dollars a kilo instead of 20,000. Why aren't we there? Because society is too busy eating itself alive writhing in a cesspit of hyper consumerism, hyper sexuality, and hypergamy. The left would see all the worlds resources burned in effigy to feed a few hungry mouths instead of teaching them how to live or figuring out how to actually innovate. The masculinity of men is not threatened, it's going extinct as we poison our minds with identity politics and bodies with various poisons. It's not an exclusively left or right problem but it's one the left will never seek to fix.

>>A friend of mine seems to think all women are evil, leftist are bad, all feminists are against men, and masculinity of men is being threatened. Am I wrong to assume he is crazy?
Why assume he's crazy have a discussion with him if you disagree with any of his points, why do you disagree? Where is your evidence.
Both of you are playing who has the biggest dick without wanting to whip it out. When the truth is whoever isn't afraid of whipping it out first wins. The guy that saw it is gay haha. Now your friend as an image of your dick in his head.
The fact neither of you wants to whip out your dicks or the reasons why you think the things you do just means you probably don't have reasons are just NPC.
2 NPCs debating Haha

Women are bad. Men are merely evil.

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The first normal reply I've seen. Interesting viewpoint. this will give me fuel on what to search for. Thank you.

Feminism is a bunch of pseudo-intellectual women who are rebelling against their very biology. They want to trade a happy family life for a miserable work life because some Jew told them that a shitty job would make them happy. The plot twist is that those shitty jobs don't make anyone happy, instead they turn women who could have been good mothers into lonely cat ladies and dykes and because the sexual market place doesn't have enough women to match the men now, men suffer under this system.

As for women being evil? No, women are generally not evil, unless they are Jewish. They are just mentally deficient, specifically when it comes to rationality and logic, preferring to live in a realm where their feelings rule their actions. It's what makes them so easy to be manipulated by evil Jews in the first place.

Leftists basically have the same problem as women. Obviously a lot of leftists are women, but then there are the onions fed men who behave a lot like women, rejecting rationality and reason for feels.

Feminists are all about gaining privileges over men. You simply cannot name one thing that men have that women don't in the west, but there are plenty of things that women have access to legally that men do not; such as the right of abortion and general preferential treatment by the justice system.

The pillars of society are actively being attacked and feminism is a part of that attack on society, specifically attacking the concept of the family. There is a reason why the family unit has been the same for countless millennia, and it is because it works, feminism does not.

So yes, you are wrong to assume that he is crazy, because it is actually you who are crazy to think that feminism is in anyway a positive thing.

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it's an ongoing siege, and the attackers have an extremely advanced understanding of sociology and group psychology. it's best not to underestimate these people. assume malice before stupidity.

>I'll try ask again... maybe I'll find someone helpful?
> 23 posts..
OK, i'll bite. Seems you're genuine.

> A friend of mine seems to think all women are evil
I'll give you a pretty deep answer. Let me know if you would like me to further expand on any particular point. Women are born with a nature. Men are born with a nature. Both women and men have equal components of good/evil expressed in a different manner. Some error towards their evil natures. Others lean more towards their good natures. The universe et large has similar divisions. The problem with the female nature is that it is "chaotic". Again, I restate that there is a good/bad component to all. However, chaos has a natural neutral state that can easily be titled in either direction. As opposed to men, a woman's needle chaotically swings into good/bad constantly. Some classify this as evil w/o fully understanding this detail. It's not evil. It's just chaotic and unreliable.
> leftist are bad
Again, this duality principle. Left (liberal) / Right (conservative). The deeper answer is each individual conserves and care for the things of value (conservative)... You're liberal with things you dont care about (left). So, if you really don't care about immigration, sex, a stable society, families.. you'll have liberal viewpoints on it which tend to be bad (careless/reckless). So, a leftist is indeed bad as they define themselves as someone who doesn't give a shit and is fine w/ the chaotic principle defined above.
> all feminists are against men,
The chaos principle rears its head again... Promoting chaos is against the male principle. There's nothing wrong w/ a proud and strong woman who grounds herself in morals/values/beliefs. There's something extremely bad pertaining to liberal reckless/chaotic women which is what modern feminism is about.
> masculinity of men is being threatened.
This is old news and fact. Has been for a number of years.

He isn't crazy. His view just a little coarse.

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As a lefty lurker on here I must say friendo you came to the wrong place. Go somewhere far away for actual discussion. This board is just where all the dregs of society hang out and shit all over the floor.

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Basically both of you just looked for people that had an opinion that you wanted to have in your personal lives and you've never moved on beyond the I read it or heard it confirmation.
That means your reasons are simply I want my universe in my head to work by these rules independent of what's actually happening in the real world.
This is a characteristic of the NPC that has its internal programming independent of any reality it is faced with.
You are at least trying to stop being an NPC, your friend might have stumbled on the right answer by chance but he is also just an NPC
Good luck to the both of you

youre halfway there bud. if only you also had concern for the destruction of natural habitats and all the ecosystems from which your ancestors grew then you would know how to live properly.

i also assume it involves a unified upper class. why would the elite fight one another anymore? the world has plenty of resources as long as there aren't too many fussy commoners. they have every reason to collude with one another, and throw the rest of us into the meat grinder after dismantling our existing societies.

I am well aware it's just a bit much to throw in sometimes. I believe the heart of a conservative viewpoint is conserving nature and paying homage to the way our ancestors had to live. I think getting off this planet should be a priority to remind the entirety of humanity just how fragile life is here and better teach us to co-exist with it in modern times.

Because they have grudges against each other, and just like they've been capable of making plebs their meat puppets or fuck holes, they understand they will be doing that to each other so they refuse to stop playing and admitting that their granddaughters and grandsons will be killed or guzzling BBC cum.
Unironically plebs choosing to play along and making all the behaviors ok is reducing the tension between them

Could you elaborate on this dual nature concept? What do you mean women are chaotic? Aren't men just as chaotic?

Women are traumatized in different ways than men

That's a very simple and robotic viewpoint. I'm just looking to be educated.

based and redpilled

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That's the ultimate truth simple and straight forward, looking for more explanations just means you want to not admit the truth so you create a whole religion around it

>Where is the empirical evidence to support this radical theory?
>empirical evidence

By means of the senses, particularly by observation and documentation of patterns and behavior through experimentation.

Huh? Now you're just talking gibberish.

Holy shit this thread, australians are so fucking good at shitpost i'm amazed

>"I cant get answers"
>gets a clear, coherent answer
>ignores it
10/10

Your world view is made up by everything that you see. Look at people that have sons and daughters and realize they usually get different treatment. This educates the things you can do and can't you also learn how men make their money and how women make their money and realize there are options available to women that are usually not available to men (mostly related to appearance or maternal BS) while there are others available to men that aren't to women (strength or boys clubs related).
This changes the view women and men have of the world. That is 1 duality.
Second duality is hormone based since women have to deal with that shit which some of them then exploit (like men did before and still do for example in the Muslim world of I couldn't control myself)
This couldn't control myself is just the more animal nature of humans

> Could you elaborate on this dual nature concept?
You have a lot of research/studies ahead of you. The best starter is to look into Yin/Yang.
> What do you mean women are chaotic?
Women represent Yin. Men are born into yang.
See pic.
If you haven't come to realize women are more chaotic than men and what their principle nature is, you're probably to young for this website.
> Aren't men just as chaotic?
No. Clearly for all of history.
Revisionist liberal leftists claimed otherwise and went against nature/history in modern times which is why the world is filled with so much chaos/confusion. This is the 'female' principle manifest which goes along w/ the slogan 'the future is female'. Indeed, it is.. Chaotic

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>looking to be educated and instead got called down syndrome

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Most obvious duality is emotional vs rational. Neither exclusively belongs to women or men. But women can get away with being emotional more often and in more socially public ways than men so they get to display this side more often. Men hide their emotional behind excuses of rationality. Women since they don't have to don't develop the skill to the levels that men do

You lost me at superstition.

No superstition required, just understanding of psychology

> Most obvious duality is emotional vs rational
Socially yes.
> Neither exclusively belongs to women or men.
Indeed. However, the balance is not the same between men and women. Not even chemically... Do you have as much estrogen production as a woman? Does a woman have as much testosterone production as a man? When nature speaks... Listen. What happens when this is unbalanced in a woman? What of a man?
> But women can get away with being emotional more often and in more socially public ways than men so they get to display this side more often
Their nature predisposes them to emotion as didictated by their hormonal chemistry including most prominent estrogen. Society... social norms and constructs are produced after the fact and indeed the ones that are stable conform to nature not go against it... which is why society is more stable when it recognizes women are more emotional and allows them to express it socially. Also, when society ensures not to promote such women into roles unbecoming of their natures... When societies conform to nature, they flourish. When they don't, they face conflict/chaos/strife.
Your nature vs. nurture argument is flawed. You ignore the nature component and argue nurture. They both must be combined.. Nature comes first then nurture. Social norms that are stable are dictated by nature. Idiotic social norms that go against nature eventually fail as do societies constructed around them.
> Men hide their emotional behind excuses of rationality.
Men do not hide their emotions. Nature subdues them via hormones and other physical traits. The nurture/social context comes after.
> Women since they don't have to don't develop the skill to the levels that men do
Again with nurture bullshit. A woman will never be a man and a man never a woman. There are two genders among human beings. Male/Female. Those who have physical complications as documented by their biology (hermaphrodites) fall into a gray area.

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Dear youngfag, you have to be of a certain age to use this site. Seems your request was not sincere after-all as you reject sound truth. Best wishes traversing life in confused darkness.
Psychology comes after Physiology and biology not before. Seems you need to hit the books as well given your hallow framing of absolutist nurture.

Hormones can be controlled. Stop trying to justify abusing people, you also justify the "chaos" nature in women because you want it to keep existing, probably because you believe men > women or to try to create all boys clubs. This would be your rational side using rationality to enforce your emotional side. Proving my point. There are work around and people, men or women, can choose to modify themselves to be able to fill whatever role they want