12 Young People on Why They Probably Won’t Vote

>NY Magazine goes around asking young people (between 18 and 29) if they're going to vote, and if not, why

The responses show *exactly* what kind of people our peers are.

Remember guys: you CAN make a difference if you exercise your vote. Don't be one of these... people.

For more, see: nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2018/10/12-young-people-on-why-they-probably-wont-vote.html

Here is a selection.

>Tim | Age 27 | Austin, Texas | Has Never Voted
>I tried to register for the 2016 election, but it was beyond the deadline by the time I tried to do it. I hate mailing stuff; it gives me anxiety. I don’t remember seeing voter-registration drives, no. I’ve seen a lot more the past two years. I’m sure there must have been stuff. I just don’t remember it.

>I guess I still thought, Okay, my vote is largely symbolic in this election because I’m in Texas. Even if Texas went blue, I’m pretty sure my vote wouldn’t matter anyway. Austin is very liberal, but it’s very gerrymandered. The House district I’m in goes GOP every election, which is ridiculous. I was particularly interested in voting in 2016 because Donald Trump is so stupid. It drove me up a wall — he knew way less about the government than I do.

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>I have ADHD, and it makes it hard for me to do certain tasks where the payoff is far off in the future or abstract. I don’t find it intrinsically motivational. The amount of work logically isn’t that much: Fill out a form, mail it, go to a specific place on a specific day. But those kind of tasks can be hard for me to do if I’m not enthusiastic about it. That’s kind of a problem with social attitudes around, you know, “It’s your civic duty to vote.” I once told a co-worker I didn’t vote, and she said, “That’s really irresponsible,” in this judgmental voice. You can’t build a policy around calling people irresponsible. You need to make people enthusiastic and engaged.

>After 2016, a couple friends became a lot more politically active, and they helped me register and mail the form. So I actually am registered now. I’m leaning toward probably voting in the midterms. It feels like the reason to vote is symbolic. The motivation isn’t about the actual value my vote has; it’s more like a theoretical signaling value. If that’s the case, I would rather signal that Democrats should have more progressive candidates, rather than assuming that everyone on the left will automatically vote for the candidates they run. In the end, whether I vote probably depends on how close the candidates are.

>Jocelyn | Age 27 | Arlington, Massachusetts | Last Voted: 2016
>It was easier to get my medical-marijuana card — not a right, or even federally legal — than it was to register to vote. Massachusetts had online registration but only if you have a DMV-issued ID. I don’t drive, so I was like, okay, I can register in person, but I’m also dealing with a chronic illness. Every day is a guessing game: Am I going to feel up to doing anything today? I put it off. The week before the deadline, I ended up being really sick and I wasn’t able to leave home. You can send in your registration by mail, but I didn’t have stamps. I kept thinking that I shouldn’t have to jump through this many hoops to register. Back in July, I’d gotten a medical-marijuana card to treat my chronic illness. The entire thing is done online — it’s the same requirements as registering to vote.

Oh wow, an incompetent manchild who is also a flaming homosexual, I mean.. "liberal"

Shocking!

>I hate mailing stuff; it gives me anxiety
Someone please put us out of our misery

>Samantha | Age 22 | Old Bridge, New Jersey | Last Voted: 2016
>2016 was such a disillusioning experience. Going into the election, I was so proud to be in this country at this moment, so proud to be voting for Hillary Clinton. I had my Clinton sweatshirt on all day. I was on Twitter telling people that if they didn’t vote they were dead to me — like the whole thing. Watching the results come in, it was just disheartening. My faith in the whole system was crushed pretty quickly. That was the first general election I could vote in, too.

>Those actual full-progressive candidates make me optimistic. But there’s still a lot of powerful people, especially in the Democratic Party, that are centrists, and that’s just a little frustrating when it comes time to stand up to this president and the policies he’s trying to pass. Like the Kavanaugh thing — I get that they’re the minority and that was an uphill battle, but I just feel like there wasn’t a big enough fight put up to that, and I think there continues to not be a big enough fight.

>Full disclosure: I have a ballot sitting at home. In 2016, I voted absentee and I just marked off “Send me a mail-in ballot for every election.” I don’t really get that argument that it’s really hard. Like, it’s not that hard.

>I think there’s a way to be an informed nonvoter. I’d rather have an informed nonvoter than an uninformed voter going in and making a choice they don’t understand. You’re voting for a politician going into office, and I’m seeing less change there than I am through grassroots organizing. Since Trump’s been elected, those grassroots groups have really been doing great, great work. So I guess it’s that: where you’re seeing the impact.

Trump made me vote Republican. Going to do it again next week.

I fully expected liberal college aged idiots to blow off this election for a host of self diagnosed illnesses and all around laziness/indifference brought on by their delusional sense of entitlement. They can’t be bothered to do anything at all anymore if it can’t be done on their smartphone with one tap.

JUST FUCKING VOTE R DOWN THR BALLOT TO FINISH OFF THESE VIRTUE SIGNALING RETARDS

>Reese | Age 23 | Hudson, Ohio | Has Never Voted
>In my senior year in high school, I was probably borderline socialist. Though I don’t really think I understood what a socialist was. I was blatantly liberal and didn’t bother to check myself. My friend gave me The Prince, by Machiavelli. I read that, and it provided a certain nuance that I didn’t have. From there, I read more, and I realized that a lot of things I’d thought before were wrong. I got into Hellenism. I read Cicero, Livy. Later on, I got into Voltaire. Then, in college, my field is American politics and political science. I prefer constitutional law and Alexander Hamilton.

>There are things that I’m aware of where I’m certain I’m right. But for most things, although I feel strongly, it’s very probable that there’s some aspect of this that I don’t understand. Somebody provides a new avenue of thought, and it changes the way I think about something. I never felt certain enough to vote. But I’m a political-science student, and the talk of voting is really big in my circle of friends. In 2016, I almost did. Of course, I’m not a big fan of Trump, but I didn’t know if Trump was going to be a flash in the pan or — I just didn’t know what to do. I didn’t want to help something that might end up being wrong.

Clinton made me vote Republican. Going to do so again in a few days.

These people need to be taken out of the gene pool. What the actual fuck

>he knew way less about the government than I do.
>27 year old who gets anxiety from a task as simple as sending a letter thinks he knows more about the government than a 70 year old billionaire businessman
top fucking kek, the absolute state of these people

> Needs a stamp
> Thinks this is jumping through hoops
I'm so fucking furious at these people. Thank Christ they don't vote, though.

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>I have ADHD, and it makes it hard for me to do certain tasks where the payoff is far off in the future or abstract. I don’t find it intrinsically motivational. The amount of work logically isn’t that much: Fill out a form, mail it, go to a specific place on a specific day. But those kind of tasks can be hard for me to do if I’m not enthusiastic about it.
I had this too. It's called laziness, you whiny fucking faggot.

>Shillary voter
>cut people out of their life for not voting
>would have done the exact same thing if they'd voted for Trump
>optimistic at "progressive" candidates
>accuses others of making choices they don't understand
Like clockwork. The programming runs very deep.

>it's called laziness
top kek, the mental gymnastics they employ to justify their own idleness is positively mind boggling. Also trips of truth.

Reese seems like an indecisive cuck. Why even do political science if you can't figure out your ideology

>I don't have any stamps
>jumping through all these loopholes
Smfh. If she can't drive, leave the house, or get fucking stamps, why should she even be allowed to vote?

> I prefer constitutional law and Alexander Hamilton
Gee, I wonder where he ever heard about Hamilton from...

The same place as most normies/naive leftists I'd imagine. Their interest in history is nothing more than passing unless it is packaged into some form of media entertainment, and they take it at face value because it's the only thing they've heard about it.

It's fucking crazy, man. It boggles the mind just how soft and weak these people are. How much they need to be coddled and how they crumble and break down under the slightest hint of pressure. How they excuse themselves from the responsibility of putting forth any kind of effort into life whatsoever. They want to be these hardcore revolutionaries and yet they can't even mail a slip of paper at the post office because of "ADHD" and "anxiety" and a million other excuses. Someone comes to speak at their college and they need a room filled with blankets and Play-Doh to cope. Literal children have more backbone.

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Fuck Hamilton and all he represents. Jefferson's yeoman farmers is the proper model for an independent nation. I'm glad he got shot down for running his mouth fuck that buried on wall street motherfucker

Yes, I know, it was sarcasm

Uh oh, somebody should go tell the Democrats it's retarded to rely on young people turning out in the midterms. I would but I have too much anxiety to use a phone, drive, or buy stamps.

Thank God there are finally people in the world more pathetic than I am.

This is why the support "progressiveness" and "socialism." They think they wont have to do shit and everything will just be handed to them.

This gives me hope. I have heard about this on the radio too, how leftist millenials are all about fighting the system and activism but don't actually vote. Hopefully the Reps winning will demoralize them from voting forever.

no its still you

I more wanted to state my dislike of the play and rap. Who thought it would be a good idea to put rap into a play. It's the lowest form of """art""" and if you've ever listened to rap """music""" for more than three seconds you'll know that it's all, without exception, vulgar filth. It disgusts me.

It's all by design I'm sure. Their so called ideology is seductive but poses no true threat to the status quo, which is the reason it's allowed to be parroted at schools and universities the way it is. They fancy themselves as revolutionaries yes, without even the slightest inkling that a revolution will entail blood, violence and death on a scale that their coddled minds cannot even begin to fathom. They also seem to think they will be in control after a revolution, which is probably the most hilarious part of it because they will be the first ones to die in the purges.

kek, it reminds me of the Brexit referendum. Turnout was lowest among the youth, the group who apparently stood to be affected the most by the vote. How important must it have been to them if they were too apathetic to even go to the goddamn polling station?

"Fighting the system" in theory only, in practice they are maintaining it. They are far too pacified and apathetic to make any real difference. Most of them have student loans too, ensuring that they will remain slaves to the system until either by sheer luck they make enough money to pay all their loans back, or the more likely outcome, they die of old age first.

Thing is. Millennials want something the majority has never wanted: socialism, and only because it's le edgy ideology of their boomer professors.

Move to Europe you 'tards.

The most important thing to know about the actual American left is that they love to lose.

Shut up. I finally took the trash out last night. I've been trying to do that for two months now.

I hope they took it, but I don't want to go look while it's still light out.

>my vote which is at the same time one out of six gozillion other votes is totally relevant, don't look at math - just trust me guys
Why are all democrats so retarded?

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>Megan | Age 29 | San Francisco, California | Last Voted: 2014
>I rent and move around quite a bit, and when I try to get absentee ballots, they need me to print out a form and mail it to them no more than 30 days before the election but also no less than seven days before the election. Typically, I check way before that time, then forget to check again, or just say “Fuck it” because I don’t own a printer or stamps anyway. It’s incredibly difficult for hourly workers or young people who are in rotational programs or travel frequently for their careers to vote. I wish every state’s rules were the same so there was not so much confusion and it was easy to find straightforward information on how exactly to get absentee ballots.

>27
>young
It amazes me that milennials are still considered "the youth"
I'm 24 and I feel like an old cunt

It's always like that when you're at that age. Then you get to 34 and you're like
>damn, I'm not in my 20s anymore, am I?
Then you get to 44 and you're like
>holy fuck I'm as old as my dad
Then you get to 54 and you're like
>lol those 40 year olds thinking they're old already
etc.

>hate mailing stuff
>gives me anxiety

wew lad.

so all it will take to stop leftist millennials from voting is to keep them perpetually demoralized

this should be easy enough since they are constantly plugged into social media

It’s all mental. I turned 28 this year and honestly feel like I’m in my early 20s. Your actual early 20s fucking suck, so it’s not a big deal really

I wish they would run ads on tv shaming people who vote without actually knowing what they are voting for. Instead we get all this faggotry about how its so important to vote no matter what.

We found it guys, the one true instance of voter suppression

im 27 and feel like an old boomer

the problem is millenials are permanent children and want to keep thinking they are young until they die

meh, so far my early 40s have been the best years of my life. Everything that I have worked so hard for is really coming together and producing results. I'm expanding my skills, interests, and community involvement. I'm finally following through on achieving some tangential goals that I have always had and gave up my vices. My career is better than ever and I am in the best shape of my life. Each day is better than the previous. I wouldn't go back to an earlier age for anything.

Were crashing thier hope, [spoiler]with no survivors[/spoiler]

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>JUST FUCKING VOTE R DOWN THR BALLOT TO FINISH OFF THESE VIRTUE SIGNALING RETARDS

Close. You also have to bring AT LEAST one more person with you to do it.

Based Gen Xer

Not trying to be a dick but if it took me till my 40's to teach my goals I'd just end it. I'm setting my life up so I'll have it "good" mid 30's at the latest, and I'm still not happy. If I had known at 17 what I know at 28 I'd be killing it.

Reach*

What a pathetic faggot, I'm ashamed to live in the same city as "him". Then again I'm from out-of-state and came to Texas with the hope of helping keep it red and cucks like him sure make it easier.

Good for you, setting and achieving goals as early as possible. I had responsibilities to a terminally ill parent in my 20s that set me back a few years. I want really free to start pursuing my own goals until my late 20s. I'm not complaining. I was glad to be there to care for my mother.

>want really free
*wasn't really free

voting is consenting to continuation of the false paradigms.

if no one votes, the system may collapse

pfft why would it collapse? how do people get to thinking like this?

This is "Everyone should automatically be registered" propaganda. The more people who are registered that don't vote, the more fake ballots the democrats can fill out. This is their next avenue of voter fraud after Trump eliminates the illegal alien problem.

>muh mental illness is why I'm a failure
I was told I had "ADHD" too when I was six years old, and put on Ritalin. Honestly I think it's more of a parenting thing and women teachers not understanding how to deal with boys, combined with pharma Jew tactics. I hate people who use ADHD as a crutch, like they have no fucking willpower as adults to make decisions, focus, or be productive

>Back in July, I’d gotten a medical-marijuana card to treat my chronic illness. The entire thing is done online — it’s the same requirements as registering to vote.

>It was easier to get my medical-marijuana card — not a right, or even federally legal — than it was to register to vote.

Retard alert. Do these people think before they speak?

>Like the Kavanaugh thing — I get that they’re the minority and that was an uphill battle, but I just feel like there wasn’t a big enough fight put up to that, and I think there continues to not be a big enough fight.
These people need a helicopter ride

Voting is retarded. When you vote, you are sending a mesage that you expect politicians to help you. Politicians don't give a shit about helping you, not even the God-Emperor, as entertaining as he is.

You ned to help yourself. You want a better job? You're the one that's gonna have to get it. Ultimately presidents and senators and MPs and all that crap are pointless and ineffectual

>I have ADHD
So do I, and I'm still on Adderall at 26. Stop making fucking excuses.

Such an oversimplified view of politics and the world that it makes me angry. Why don't you stay home and never vote and let the leftists rape your country and its people?

Keep in mind these people think they would win a violent revolution.
Keep that in mind and laugh.

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Start this video at the 1:49 mark to see why I don't worry about the liberal youth vote:

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Well, the leftists in croatia are like the right wing in faggy western nations, so I'm not worried about that. When it comes to the US specifically, i think that while a Republican rule might slow down the transformation, it can't be stopped, so whether you end up as a Mexican nation now or in 50 years, does it really matter?

Bump for demoralizing the left

If no one votes, then everyone still pays taxes.

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Don't forget that California was caught registering illegals and guest workers via their "Motor Voter" loophole.

Literally just google “How to get absentee ballot in Insert State Here”. Not that fucking hard, especially for people who likely spend the majority of their waking hours glued to their iPhone screens.

Paying taxes isn't inherently political, just practical. I need functional roads and bridges and traffic lights to get to work. I need a police force to keep order so we don't descend into chaos. I need emergency rooms when that lightbulb gets stuck in my ass. Taxation is fine, libertarians are retards

>>I tried to register for the 2016 election, but it was beyond the deadline by the time I tried to do it. I hate mailing stuff; it gives me anxiety. I don’t remember seeing voter-registration drives, no. I’ve seen a lot more the past two years. I’m sure there must have been stuff. I just don’t remember it.

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>voting matters good goyim thats why everyone that matters is a kike/kike sockpuppet
Good goyim go vote, freedom isn't free or something that forcefully mutilated 56ers would soak.

jacob (((saboroff)))

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enough "minorities" to flip the district

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He says from the capital of cuckistan. Our universities are full of people just as dumb and cucked as the nation which once ruled the seas but now can't even rule it's streets. Your people don't get to look down on Americans anymore, you've lost all credibility and respect. You are 20 years from becoming the new European caliphate.

Lol
>taxes are the only way to pay for services.
I don't like libertarians as much as the next user but don't be retarded and imply that taxes are the only way to have a functioning society. Taxes maintain the standing armies and grease the pockets of the controlling interests.

Taxes can be abused, sure, but i'd love to hear your alternative for them.

Also,

>taxes pay for standing armies

Yes? Your point is?

>I read Cicero,
pedo dems BTFO

To be fair I get worried about cutting my tongue when sealing the envelope, but that's pretty minor.

>live in modern society with all the infrastructure and services provided and available
>"it's too hard and takes too much effort!"
When these people end up miserable and on the streets, I want them to feel and experience all the lows.

>Clinton made me vote Republican. Going to do so again in a few days.
Many such cases. Glad.
I was a flaming lib before 2016

Slackavists. Today, doing something for a cause literally = clicking a button for retweet, and then feeling good about yourself for doing good in the world.

I didn't vote in the last election because I couldn't unironically tell anyone, "Yes, I want this candidate to be President of the United States."
I thought about putting in a ballot for a third party, but I couldn't think of anyone I wanted to support that was probably going to get anywhere.

>would rather signal that Democrats should have more progressive candidates, rather than assuming that everyone on the left will automatically vote for the candidates they run.
Yes, stay home, Beta isn't "progressive" enough!

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I wonder how far a third party candidate would get in the US if everyone who considers voting for them didn't immediately(and understandably) go "it's pointless, they can't win anyway." It's almost like that mentality in itself is keeping the two party system untouchable.

Ross Perot would be a good example of what a 3rd party might be able to do if a decent option went through with it at the right opportunity.

That is to say it'd probably ultimately just wind up splitting the vote and handing things to the democrats because it splits the sort-of remotely sane people into a drooling pro-establishment group and a large number of people willing to throw it away on a protest vote or out of principle.

Ditto more or less.
08 I voted democrat downticket, Independent President (Virginia)
12 I voted I think either republican downticket and independent president or a mix of republican and democrat but still (i) president.
16 I voted straight ticket Republican (Delaware, so their republicans will both not win and are equivalent to an old school blue dog democrat).
I would have considered voting for a blue dog democrat but now I see Mark Warner joining the anti-gun lobby after he voted against the AWB in 2013, so fuck em. I'm Republican until democrats fundamentally change, and I doubt they ever will.

I've got anxiety but getting anxiety for mailing a letter is fucking asinine. I understand if it's something big like moving or job interview or a major change. A letter? A phone call? It makes me feel like a he-man by comparison and I'm a basketcase.

Good on you, too. You won't regret it and the last few years you had with your mom will be a good if tragic memory till you're on your deathbed. You'd have regretted favoring the ratrace over her far more. I fear in my case I let my dad's early onset dementia fuck me up and break me in a fundamental way. It's not like it shapes me and shakes me today, but it did cause me to arrest my development and develop pathologies into my late 20s. I accept the onus falls on me and it'll be fixed when I have the balls and courage to fix it. Depression over my situation is my body telling me to change. What'll suck more is that my early 30s will have the growing pains of the early 20s, but that's the consequences of my actions.

Voting is not a right, its a privilege.

No I hear you, I just think it's interesting that a huge number of Americans didn't like either hillary or trump, but voted for either hillary or trump because they believed voting for anyone else would be pointless. And as long as Americans believe this, it will be.

It’s fucking jury duty for me. Every year I registered to vote it’s like it shoots me to the the top of there fucking list and they are up my ass and when I don’t register they seem to leave me alone. I’m not doing it. I don’t care.

>I would have considered voting for a blue dog democrat but now I see Mark Warner joining the anti-gun lobby after he voted against the AWB in 2013, so fuck em

You are my friend.

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Why are American 'people' like this

Most of these snowflakes won’t even vote. Median age of early voters so far is 64. Red wave.

> muh youth vote

>I’m a political-science student, and the talk of voting is really big in my circle of friends. In 2016, I almost did

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Leaf, you get the privilege of ragging on other countries again when Trudeau is out of office. Until then shut the fuck up.

Now you're just flaming.

>Yes, stay home, Beta isn't "progressive" enough!
Nothing is progressive enough for that kind of person these days. I am convinced that if an asexual non-white Hispanic Buddhist woman were pushed as a candidate they would complain that she wasn't accepting enough of trans people or something.
It's maddening. American politics is still a rock and a hard place. Unfortunately, given how ludicrously lenient the Democrat cronies have been with importing immigrants to exploit, I have to vote Republican on principle. The US needs to fix its own damn self before it tries to act like the Promised Land again. Legal immigrants are A-OK, but anyone that claims with a straight face that the current situation is fine is delusional. If under-the-table business with immigrants is 'legitimate', then LEGITIMIZE it instead of using immigrant rights as a smokescreen.

21 year old zoomer here. I voted in 2015 for local stuff and then in 2016 for all constitutionalist candidates and also trump for the memes. Earlier this year in the republican primaries every single candidate I voted for lost to the establishment gop candidate. I am never going to vote again for any republican because they’re spineless fucks who want big government just as badly as the dems. I’m tempted to vote straight dem next week so that the civil war will happen sooner rather than later.

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jury duty is an honor, just fuck with the DA and make sure the guy gets off unless he belongs in jail then recommend maximum sentence

I thought the same thing when I read that. What a fucking baby.

>I hate mailing stuff; it gives me anxiety.
I'm glad a liberal didn't vote, but seeing this shit makes my blood boil and my eyes burn with white hot rage. Great men died for the freedom we enjoy and there are faggots who get to live in this country that are so cucked they can't use mail.

I'm glad they are so spoiled but it's amusing to see all the same. Thankfully the expression of that on the right, NeverTrumpers, were swampgas with more bark than bite. Not only were they inconsequential but they were shown to be traitors who preferred to the chance of a Trump victory the suicide fantasy of everyone going "WE WERE WRONG! YOU WERE RIGHT NATIONAL REVIEW/BILL KRISTOL! PLEASE FORGIVE US" as the US becomes Brazil-Sweden. They could have held their nose and supported the nominee and if Trump failed then rake people over the coals. That'd be fine and natural, but nope, they wanted the ship to sink or to become admiral.

Third vote isn't a throwaway vote in the long-term. If a perot cut into democratic votes it would convince the democrats to accept Perotian positions. Same deal if it was republican. In the short term it does fuck things up but if you're aiming to fix a platform in the long term it can be successful. If Trump had lost the nomination and ran as a third party "fuck global interventionism fuck catering to illegals fuck tariffs" and split the republican ticket in half then next round they would in theory adopt some of those views. In practice of course it's likely the moneylenders would make sure they didn't.

For me the circumstances are severe enough that I can no longer entertain the idea of risking my vote with a third party vote on the senate/house/presidency. I can on lower ballot stuff but with the battleground of federal judges now's not the time to give into division. I'd only see it viable if you had a milquetoast republican who was more democrat than republican - a Yeb(!) type.

I'm thrilled democrats aren't at that point yet and still entertain goldilocks syndrome as said because as long as they are open-borders globalism multikultists I can't do enough to oppose them. I'll vote for Pinochet over a democrat. I'll vote for Mussolini over a democrat.