If there is a god and he loves christians then why did he give jerusalem to the jews and constantinople to the muslims?

I don't know any church (that is not a meme) that is against race mixing

if jesus died for my future sins then i can't be a sinner

As for "Chosen" few people understand what that covenant was either.

It is essentially two parts.
First Phase: God blesses the ancient Hebrew as his Champions in the "dark" times. But the Hebrews themselves are corrupt, and often do bad things. Yet in this phase he must mentor them as a Father to teach them the right way to act. This sets the stage for the true fulfilling of the covenant or the "chosen."

Phase two; Jesus Christ (divinity made flesh) is born of a virgin. This is significant because of the full circle cycle, which again is how God usually prefers to operate. Eve initiated the fall of man by partaking of the forbidden knowledge and getting pregnant, however Adam partook of the same tree as Eve(had gay sex with Lucifer) all of man fell from grace, but Woman had to be initiator of our redemption, since they were initiators of our fall. The symbol we know now; Mary giving birth to Christ.
Christ then goes on to say, God's specific covenant with the Jews is over, and anyone in the world may choose to join God. Of course many of the Jews rejected this doctrine and crucified him, but again that also fulfills a cycle. Everything runs full cycle with God.

Churches hate whats actually in the bible, its imperative that you read it on your own. Tbh, I enjoy reading it.

The character of divinity is totally different than what man says it is.

To keep them niggers fighting each other over worthless acres of sand in the Middle East, lol.

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Why would God banish you to hell for wearing a costume and consuming candy but molesting a child is a slap on the wrist and not hell worthy?

You can be a sinner, but you now have the ability to repent and find forgiveness. Assuming you are genuine of character and intentions.

The price for sin in the Old testament was always blood, but divine blood is worth more than man or animal blood. The shedding of Christs blood ended the era of blood debts and ushered in the era of repentance/forgiveness. This is why holy communion is the most important ritual you could possibly take part in.

This isn't the case, literal fake news.

>even touching Christ-chan
Yep, in the ground you go fedora tipper cuck NPC.

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Show me where it says in the bible that current Halloween ( by definition collecting candy and wearing a costume) is a no no. I'll wait.

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>If there is a god and he loves christians then why did he give jerusalem to the jews and constantinople to the muslims?

Because He gave America to us!

I already said it doesn't say that.
As for "its old, it can't possibly keep up with modern times" this is false, the types of man never truly changes. You can understand any era through seeing the type of person, and the response to that type of person.

In fact, there are many people exactly like you in the bible, and buddy let me tell you. It rarely ends good for your type. Better get your ridicule and narcissism in while you can.

He gave us the kingdom of God.

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>that's not how it works OP
I think it’s legit

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This exactly

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>why didn't god gib me dats becuz I am owed it
gtfo out here nigger and crusade for jerusalem

wider orthodoxy is good
it is unfortunate how infiltrated the romanian church is thanks to the soviets

Halloween as a secular tradition for fun/children is perfectly fine. You aren't going to be judged for it as long as you don't take it religiously or grievously sin during it.
Halloween as an excuse to go to cocaine fueled mascaraed orgies which is really partaking in an Occult ritual is not fine, and you will be judged for it. However, thats not because of Halloween but how you personally behave on Halloween.

Because "where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them" and "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth". The Catholics and Orthodox are false Christianity, and this is a way for God to confirm that the Reformation Christians are right.

>humans went on the moon and there was no god.
Wow christcucks BTFO how will they ever recover.
The universe isn't super big or anything. The moon is the end of the road.

>humans went on the moon
user...

Once you sin, you're a sinner now and forever. Even the redeemed in heaven are sinners. Not because they still sin (they don't), but because they did it in the past.

Why does God test the human spirit?

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>The character of divinity is totally different than what man says it is.
100% this. Everyone who claims to be a Christian needs to read the Bible for themselves, preferable a pre-20th century non-pozzed translation.

Why do you want an interview with God?

Answer the question lol where does it say that Halloween isnt allowed? Changing the gospel is a Big no no and if christians are doing that then you're just as condemned as i.

BASED

Make no mistake god came to bring the sword but his flock became fat and tired of swinging it .
Do not become fat and tired

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Halloween is literally a Christian holiday though:
>Halloween
>Hallowe'en
>Hallows Even
>All Hallows Even
>All Saints Eve
Literally the Eve before All Saints Day.

heaven existed long before the universe came into being, so why would you expect to find it inside of the universe

>thinking the events that transpire on the earth are in any way related to the rewards you will receive in the kingdom of heaven
cringe and bluepilled

We all get an "interview" in the end, friend.

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Then why the hell do apostolics say it's a sin?

Because they are ignorant. If anything the bigger question is why Puritans in the USA kept celebrating a holiday based on the Catholic calendar.

>they are ignorant
ignorant of their own religion is what I meant to say (even though it's true that they are also ignorant in general)

He didn't. Jerusalem was giving to Jews by cryptokikes and Constantinople by...cryptokikes. It's easy to spot cryptokikes, they're the (((Christians))) who say things like

>"What is up fellow followers of Jesus, don't forget those Jews, which I'm definitely not one of, are our greatest ally"

Despite them being solely responsible for the death of Jesus. In fact being a Christian and defending Jews is literal blasphemy, but no one follows this because they aren't practicing Christians.
Do you remember when the Clinton emails were leaked and (((CNN))) said it was illegal for goys to view them, but legal for (((CNN))) to view them so they could tell you the most important excerpts, but instead told everyone complete irrelevancies and basically said it was a big nothing burger? Well it was sort of like that, when (((Christians))) told the goys to just keep working and doing as they're told, because Father Bergstein would tell them which parts of the Bible they were to know, such as Jews being our greatest ally and the eternal victim, constantly quoting from the Old Testament, which deals entirely with (((Jews))), instead of the New Testament which deals with Christianity. It's literally that, absolutely no different.
So in other words Christians defending Jews after they were responsible for killing Jesus, is like Nazis defending Jews after they were responsible for the death of Hitler and the downfall of National Socialism. That's how retarded it is.

Same reason your parents don't give you everything you want and when you turn into an adult. They need to make sure you're not a retard, can cope on your own, and more or less test you.

This

NPC meme doesn't really work for Christians. Christians are among the few normies who openly disagree with the establishment.

Also roman Catholics / are traditionally a small but elite military, highly intellectual, hierarchical at heart non-egalitarian culture. So they conform, but to legitimate hierarchy not the common denominator, which isn't that everything Jow Forums has ever wanted?
>tfw you aren't a living in a christian monarchy

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>why did god give jerusalem to jews?
the real question is; why did the british give jerusalem to the jews?

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How do I uncuck my family from the apostolic mindset?

The god of this earth is the devil and the jew are his apostles.

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>Also roman Catholics / are traditionally a small but elite military, highly intellectual, hierarchical at heart non-egalitarian culture.
How's that hierarchy working out for you?

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What religion are you/your family?

Lot of sevens there buddy

I'm Christian not apostolic. Family is apostolic and every year we have the same debate. I explained to them that Halloween isn't evil but to apostolics everything is evil.

Only temporary

sad! yeah, the damn communists and masons have infiltrated our church pretty bad, but this isn't the first massive problem the church has had to deal with, I have confidence God will eventually resolve it. If only you knew how based the church used to be pre 1962.

>yeah, the damn communists and masons have infiltrated our church pretty bad
>If only you knew how based the church used to be pre 1962.
If your Church was based pre-1962, how could it have been infiltrated to allow 1962 to happen?

Bergolio seems to reject all hierarchy, and doesn't even refer to himself as pope, but "the bishop of Rome", and engages in all sorts of false ecumenism praising false religions endlessly. How such a man could even be called christian, let alone pope, I don't know. I feel it's like when the jews conversed with the pagans around them instead of taking the promised land, and started to embrace their Gods.

I don't like to criticize the pope, because that's a dangerous position to hold, but things are really quite bad in our leadership. Thank God for the Latin mass and the few priests that are still traditional. I went to one for the first time, it was everything i'd always wanted to see, and that isn't an exaggeration.

1962 was the Vatican II council, where there was a major shift in the tone of the church. It's where the church seemingly embraced modernism and revolutionary "revivals" of the church, as though the church was not timeless. of course there were inklings of it before Vatican II, but Vatican II is when it really happened.

nowhere in the bible does it say god is
going to gather his children, give them
tanks and a large nations treasury to
drain to make military and weapons
to take and keep the holy land.

now does it?

fake jew kike amalekites, the
muslims are going to get their
six day war revenge soon and
carry out the part of the bible
that says, those who are in the
holy city are going to be raped
pillaged and sent into exile ie
slavery in the nations.

◄ Zechariah 14:2 ►

I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem
to fight against it; the city will be captured
, the houses ransacked, and the women
raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but
the rest of the people will not be taken
from the city.

this hasn't happened yet, and there's
a really juicy pussy to be raped in
the holy land, amalek, the fake jew.

muslims, have fun, hung like camels
brains like dogs, lol, fake jews are
going to walk like cowboys.

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no because you are already tainted by sin

what does land have to do with salvation?

Explain to them that Halloween is literally All Saints Eve (it's just using an old English word for "saint") and ask them if they think All Saints Day is evil too. Don't let them change the subject to the costumes and candy which they will try to do to avoid admitting the truth. Keep pressing them until they acknowledge that Halloween itself is a Christian holiday because it's literally All Saints Eve the same way Christmas Eve the night before Christmas Day is a holiday. As for the costumes and candy, make them understand that this is how some people choose to celebrate the Christian holiday of All Saints Eve and the fact that they might not like it does not make the holiday itself evil (in the same way that the commercialization of Christmas and Easter by some people does not make the holiday itself evil). Keep pressing them on this point until they accept it. Don't let them shift the topic. Once you get them here, make them acknowledge that they themselves participate in some aspect of the commercialization of Christmas (whether it's the pagan Christmas tree or gift giving, etc.) and that this by itself does not render the Christian holiday evil. Now make them admit that the commercialization with some pagan aspects of the Christian holiday of All Saints Eve through costumes and candy is no more evil than a Christmas tree at Christmas.

See I already tried this and they said "its our personal decision not to celebrate in this house" ok point to me where in scripture it says that. "ITS OUR PERSONAL DECISION REEEEE" they're brain washed beyond belief

Who are you to deny the authority of the Pope though? If he changes the teachings on the death penalty and communion for adulterers (as he has done) or on anything else, on what authority can you oppose him? The whole concept of the Catholic hierarchy is that you have to be obedient to the Pope because his authority is supreme. If you alone have the authority to judge whether the Pope is really Catholic or not, then why do you need a Pope and a hierarchy?

Yes, I'm familiar with Vatican II, but the real issue I'm getting at isn't Vatican II so much as the reality that it was pre-Vatican II bishops that gave rise to Vatican II and its initial interpretation and implementation. Pre-Vatican II Catholicism already contained within itself the seeds of Vatican II.

Those digits

Because they are used up shitholes. He gave christians the entirety of the Americas, a land of untapped wealth and substantial beauty. Now that is true love.

>its our personal decision not to celebrate in this house
If they are Catholic, it's a sin to personally decide not to celebrate All Saints Day which is a Holy Day of Obligation. In Catholic practice, the night before is when you begin celebrating a holiday (the "Eve"), which is why Christmas Eve is a thing and Easter Mass is celebrate the night before Easter Sunday and why Mass on Saturday night fulfills the Sunday obligation. As Catholics they have no say in not celebrating a Holy Day of Obligation which All Saints Day is. If they are obstinate about this, they are not in a state of grace and cannot validly receive the sacraments like Communion until they repent and go to Confession. It is literally a sin for them not to celebrate Halloween and they will burn in hell for it unless they repent on this point. Tell them this and keep pressing them on this point everyday of the year and call them hypocrites to their face whenever they engage in any other Catholic practice, especially receiving Communion.

I don't have the authority to deny the pope, no one but God does, and I didn't actually deny him. However I would note if the pope is a manifest heretic, then he ceases to be pope. I don't want to put you down that road though, you're likely better off without it. It is better to listen close to what God wills.

>Pre-Vatican II Catholicism already contained within itself the seeds of Vatican II.
yes, but those seeds hadn't been watered until Vatican II, even if they did still exist then. The church wasn't fully allowed to change until it was given permission by the council. You would have found Catholics boycotting Jewish degeneracy and the like, and Spain was still married solely to the roman church.

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>However I would note if the pope is a manifest heretic, then he ceases to be pope.
Again, who has the authority to judge whether a Pope is a heretic or not? If this authority (the authority to discern what are the true teachings) exists apart from the Pope, then why do you need a Pope and the hierarchy?

>The church wasn't fully allowed to change until it was given permission by the council.
But the church pre-Vatican II believed that the bishops had the authority to convene an ecumenical council and to implement its teachings. The Council of Trent was followed with the same kind of controversy, including about its liturgical reforms. The traditional Latin Mass that you hold with such high esteem is actually the reformed Mass coming out of the Council of Trent. You should read about the history of the Tridentine Mass and the Council of Trent. Before that council, there were actually many regional variations in the form of the liturgy, and the aftermath of the Council of Trent was to mandate that the new Tridentine Mass be universally practiced resulting on the loss of many ancient liturgical forms. Even Gregorian chant was not the standard chant of the church until these reforms and many older forms fell out of practice and were lost.

They're not Catholic they're anti trinitarian apostolic

again, no one but God has the authority to judge the pope or put him to trial.

Bishops can't hold ecumenical councils without the pope being there / approving the council. unless i'm mistaken and an ecumenical council is different.

I esteem the Tridentine mass for it's beauty and symbolism that is mostly lost in the new mass, and because I value tradition, or rather I feel the modern way is corrupt and tradition isn't. ie we need more tradition.

btw what are you, orthodox?