Natzi's Are Dumb?

You are overthinking it. You don't need a fancy bolt gun, you could just shoot them with a normal gun, or if you want to save bullets just stab them in the neck and kick them into a ditch. Mass gas chambers and crematoriums are the stupidest idea ever, but the Jews have to make the story more and more dramatic to maximize white guilt and hand wave the need for evidence.

Very interesting question indeed, OP.
And I agree, Natzis are dumb, why would they waste all that money on poison gas just to put wooden doors on the gas chambers? It would all just drift out.

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ye guns use bullets, knives are to slow and may lead to revolution, with the "fancy gun" you can insta kill a jew in seconds, but them in a room and lead them out 1 by 1, so others don't see murder or hear screaming from the jews being stabbed

The most efficient way to kill a large mass of people is simply to deprive them of water.

yes but again this would lead to revolt, as if you had the option to die killing a natzi, or die from water deprivation you would pick natzi, you have to give them false hope, that one day they will be saved (when they wont)

Exactly.
The holocaust didn't happen

The reason they used gas was because then the Jews wouldn't be able to run away because they were enclosed in a fucking shower room. They were told they were going to be deloused or given a shower, and that at least didn't set off their fight or flight response. It's easy to herd humans when they think they're still going to be able to live. If you trucked them or trained them out into a field and had a machine gun and rifles setup they would either try to run away and scatter, escaping back into the general population and telling people about your genocide, or they would swarm the shooters while they were reloading and take the weapons and revolt.
Also, they did truck out and shoot the Jews and it was slower and more labor intensive because they had to drag the bodies and dig a grave for them. When the Jews were forced to dig their own graves it was usually in a secluded area near the camps or hidden in a forest, which you would have to expend effort for to find because you don't want your citizens coming across fields or shallow pits filled with rotting Jews.

Gas and cremation was literally more efficient than shooting them, but they did employ both, the latter especially near the end of the war when they were trying to hide the evidence.

Yes, those are the pests he's talking about.

If you consider lice and fleas to be jewish then sure.

yes but if you would read my post about killin them 1 by 1 then you would understand that it is much more cost effective, i never once said to drag them on to a fucking field, and mow them down likes its fucking ww1 again.

They had them in camps already. All they had to do was deny them water for three or four days and 90% of the prisoners would be dead.

>yes but again this would lead to revolt, as if you had the option to die killing a natzi, or die from water deprivation you would pick natzi, you have to give them false hope, that one day they will be saved (when they wont)

>what about zyklon b?
Good luck getting the concentration high enough to kill a person. It will however kill a bug very quickly due to the differences of how bugs and humans nervous systems are.

The whole "we got gassed" is not what killed them. Boomers were the first generation to hear this lie, and they repeat it as if it is some sort of fact, and they hate when us younger wippersnappers point out the logical flaws in it.

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Firstly, if you are going to phone post, do us the courtesy of proof reading before you submit. You just look illiterate otherwise.
Secondly, a captive bolt gun is for stunning the animal, not killing it; the animal has its throat cut immediately after.
Thirdly..... I asked the same question in my school days and was given (along with a dirty look) the pathetic answer that the commanders didn't want to traumatise their troops (despite them being elite SS and supposedly hating jews). Regardless, if the Nazis truly wished to kill the jews without their troops getting their hands dirty, it would have been a trivial matter to simply lock them in a hut for two weeks with no food or water.
There was no mass extermination, it is a myth.

Are you unironically this retarded?
The very idea of zyklon was to not let anyone be personally responsible for an active killing.
Also what do you think would happen if people would notice some autists like you bolting inmates.

>starving people
>revolting against guard towers and machine guns
You forget that they were starving by the time they were liberated, yet no revolts.

1. recruit members who despised and that were fuelled by anti Jewish propaganda all there lives (this worked well with black slaves, did slave traders let there slaves go because of guilt?)
2. after stunning they cant scream, so bury them alive to slit there wrists

we but abandoning a work camp would be expensive and take time, yes you could have guard towers, but if it rains they have free water, humans can survive a while without food, and cannibalism would happen so some would live for even longer.
rain is a thing

Revolt with what? Not to mention that the Germans had large stockpiles of actual nerve agent they could have used instead. The point I was trying to make was that the whole Rube Goldberg process that was claimed to be used to kill them was fucking stupid and none of it adds up when there were numerous far better less costly and convoluted ways they could have gone about it if they had actually wanted to. At the end of the war the Germans still had billions of rounds of ammunition stockpiled. I love how ridiculously circular the argument for why the gas though.

>All Germans are evil and bloodthirsty and loved to torture and murder Jews in elaborate and convoluted ways.

>The Germans used gas chambers because their solders couldn't be brought to execute the poor jews themselves.

Which one is it Shlomo?

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>they were enclosed in a fucking shower room
>fight or flight response

So by that theory, wouldn't it mean that they tried to force open the door or at least knock on the door as a last resort, when they noticed that they are getting gased instead of watered, and ultimately die in front of it?

How then the bodies were removed, if the inward opening doors were blocked by the bodies themselfes?

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I thought that 3,000 strong SS police unit shot millions of inbreds though. If you're burning the bodies why does it matter if you gas them with expensive flammable anti-typhus pesticides or use a simple captive bolt pistol?

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There were supposedly revolts. Treblinka comes to mind.

>had large stockpiles of actual nerve agent
They also had plenty of urine and plenty of bleach. That would have been infinitely cheaper than zyklon and it doesn't require massive chemical plants to produce.

I miss Stormbros. At least they were intelligent. This is just sad ..

>still believing in the holocaust in tyool 2018

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>why don't you just strangle them?
>burning dead bodies = putting a bolt in a kids skull
..seriously?

Germany had massive industrial slaughterhouses. They could have made jewpaste and used it on the fields next spring.

There are lots and lots of cattle that need to be culled from the herd.

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You're forgetting that now 1/4th of the holohoax murders are attributed to that 3,000 strong police unit.

>SS members in camps couldn't use captive bolt pistols because trauma
>SS members in police units killed millions of inbreds with a 9mm to the head
Pick one and only one.

>much more cost effective
how
just how
you want to kill someone should you
a) shoot them (you have plenty of access to ammunation)
b) stab them
c) build gas chambers and use a chemical compound that is not designed for execution but for delousing

we actually stopped using gas chambers for criminal executions in the united states because it is a long drawn out process that was prone to failure and that was with using a specially designed method

>The reason they used gas was because then the Jews wouldn't be able to run away because they were enclosed in a fucking shower room. They were told they were going to be deloused or given a shower,
That's a retarded answer, they've talked about how everyone knew it was a gas room where they'll be shoah'd.

>Poison gas room
>poorly framed wooden door with no seal

>cremation incinerator smokestack
>not even attached to a building
>You don't have a smoke stack for incinerators, so that remaining human waste ash doesn't get loose

>1940 cremation
>faster and more complete than modern crematoriums

>6 million jews killed
>no ash or bone fields
>more jews alive after than before war

>deathcamps all in soviet control and USA not allowed to inspect them

>edited or flatly mislabeled images, typhus pictures, lampshade and soap hoaxes
>hundreds of fictions

>the formation of Israel
>the original racial supremacists, turned into the original victim to exploit victim bux
PC culture and sjw's will not go away till the Jews do first

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real answer:

they tried killing them one by one but the pussy germans started getting ptsd and shit

It's how germans were killed after the war, they were shoved into camps and starved.

>If you buy the holocaust jazz the reason gas was used was to separate the mental damage of someone having to kill them personally and feeling guilt.
If you buy into the holocaust jazz then you also think that the SS were monsters who ripped babies in half in front of parents. Honestly it's a wonder anyone believes it in the first place.

you're only making OP's point stronger.

on a sidenote..what are kids doing in these camps and who of you guys would want to bolt women and children and helpless men all day long?
The very effectiveness resulted in the efficency in which the process of slaughtering people was coordinated..they even used people's herd instincs..Himmler himself talked about the strain which killings of civilians would put on his soldiers and this was only ever done in the end years, when they started to shoot them in the ostgebieten

It doesn't always work user. It often stuns them and they bleed out on the rails. The whole line is part of the process not just the gun.

Allegedly there was a scale the prisoner would stand against with his back so his height could be measured, but there was a hole a bolt would pop through like a firing pin would to break the neck unexpectedly.

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What about it? Did the know the USA used zyklon on Mexicans and not a single death? I wish I bothered to save the link.

First to check.

Cyanide slowly evaporates at 26°C

>who of you guys would want to bolt women and children and helpless men all day long?
...but it wouldn't give you PTSD to hear the screams and death gurgles of women and children choking on gas for 20 or 30 minutes? to see the survivors trying to breathe with eyes bulging out of their heads? it wouldn't traumatize soldiers to escort families to a gas chamber? or cart out the bodies by the dozens?
what you're saying doesn't make any fucking sense. there's been plenty of genocides in human history and a very effective method has always been to line people up by a ditch, shoot at them, and then bury them
don't tell me it can't work because it's been done. where were the turkish gas chambers? were niggers in rwanda building gas chambers out of mud and straw?

Supposedly there is was a weight scale people would stand on to get weighed, but was actually a trap door to an oven

Don't you find it funny that the chemical the Nazis supposedly used to mass murder 11,000,000 people came in little tiny cans? Was there not a more efficient way of using it? Someone had to open all those cans, and you'd have to make sure you got your money's worth so you don't waste your time and energy opening cans for nothing. They say the gas chambers held 200 jews. How many cans of Zyklon B did you need to kill 200 jews? And if you're the guy who has to open all those cans, how do you keep from dying yourself?

The truly sinister thing about the holocaust is who they get to teach it to us and who they have enforce the myth of it over us. There is a good god damn reason why they start teaching us about it so young.

pic related

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Rwanda was actually far more efficient than the alleged Holocaust. Almost a million dead in 100 days, that’s 6 million in less than 2 years using rusty machetes.

Am I meant to believe Rwandans are more efficient than Germans?

Simple germans are inbred and autistic.
Why else would they ruin Europe three times?

OP are you a fucking low IQ twelve year old or some retarded Muslim who doesn’t know English? What the fuck is up with your spelling? You write like a fucking retard and this entire thread is retarded. Bolt pistols don’t even work properly, and what the fuck is the point you’re trying to make?

there were a lot of clothes to gas

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After getting disinfected they were hung to air out.
where did the intoxicated bodies get aired out?

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>whataboutism
I think I would opt for filling zyklon pellets into a cylinder and a buddy opening it instead of bolting women and children..to be honest I would unironically feel autistic if I didn't..

>mfw Zyklon B could literally disintegrate Jews and and leave their clothes untouched

How would you go in to a room full of intoxicated bodies to drag one after another up to the furnace?
Also, and by the way, zyklon is also quite explosive.
And how long would it take to drag 200 bodies?

Also, 729 tonnes of Zyklon B were sold in Germany during the war, but only 8% of all Zyklon B was purchased by the supposed death camps. That was about 56 tonnes. Half of that went to Auschwitz, and only about 6 tonnes were used for killing the 1-2 million who supposedly died at Auschwitz. If Zyklon B was so potent that 6 tonnes could kill 2 million people just by being in the same room as it, what about the other 723 tonnes sold in Germany?

oy vey goy stop making sense. you don't want to go to jail do you?

Sauce that shit bro

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also, the zyklon B came infused in pebbles in cans, did that have any effect on the weight if 99.9% were not even zyklon?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B#Use_in_the_Holocaust
It was also packaged in tin cans to use as a delousing agent directly on humans. This is the same packaging the Nazis supposedly used to kill millions of kikes, but it only ever killed kikes. For everyone else, it cured their head and body lice.
The guy who sold it to the Nazis was executed for knowingly selling it for use on humans, even though nearly all zyklon b sold in cans was intended to be used on humans or in human environments.

I'm sure it did. Gross weight is usually used in measuring package weights as that's what matters in shipping.

I'll do you one better. Check out the official story about Treblinka.

Apparently, using two captured Russian tank engines, they could gas 5000 jews in a few hours, and then removes and bury those bodies. According to "witnesses," they could kill 12,000 to 15,000 people in a 14 hour workday at this camp...

Sounds... overblown.

>whataboutism
what the fuck are you on about, dumbass? maybe understand terms before throwing them out there in a conversation. that isn't what that means. I'm not accusing anyone of hypocrisy, I am pointing out other examples of an instance that occured and asking why this one would be an different and I'm asking in good faith because I really am at a loss why you wouldn't just line people up and shoot them if you want them all dead

Nice, thanks bro!

You have to be 18 to post here
Come back when you realize that the holocaust didn't happen - but should have.

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How about lining up just a couple thousand jews in front of a tank.
Just a couple. like five or maybe six million of them.

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that, to end it, is the most retarded question of all. believe it or not but the last thing the nazis had to spare was ammo you fucking faggot.

*waste

There was no holocaust.
That said, a captive bolt pistol wouldn't have been great, you have to hold it against someones head, so for everyone you want to execute you would probably need a few guys wrestling to hold someone down. Too time consuming.

>citation needed
but they had plenty of manhours and resources to build and maintain gas chambers, something that had no contribution to winning a war
riiiight
and don't call me a faggot just because you used words that you don't know the meaning of lol

oh it controlled the pest alright

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Obvious bait isn't fooling anyone with a functional brain

I love that story

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Go to the Imperial War Museum and have your mind blown.

>believe it or not but the last thing the nazis had to spare was ammo you fucking faggot.
I can't find any source for this. There's plenty of information about oil supplies running low, bomb manufacture running behind, but I can't find anything about the Germans simply not having enough handgun ammunition. I suspect the reason is because YOU PULLED IT OUT OF YOUR ASS to win an internet argument

In this image there's about 200 people.
How strong are you?
How much can you lift?
How long would you need?
When you're done, you just need to do the same amount around 30000 times over.

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>captive bolt gun

... uhm, I'll do you one better. Why not just let them starve? That's what the Soviets did.

This

>not isolating them separately in a booth to bolt them and disposing the body through a trap door and in to a meatgrinder.

i mean. . .

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ITT: JEWS, NIGGERS, UNEDUCATED, and a few people in the know

Doors were steel before they got removed and replaced sometimes by SS as part of the coverup while Soviets were advancing

Bodies were disposed of in mass graves or dispersed into the air as ash

USA liberated a few forced labor and concentration camps and they were in fact allowed to see the extermination camps, all of these are distinct

Soap and lampshade hoaxes were made up by Stormfags as their own red herring because they don't want to accept the genocidal aspect of their ideology

Population of Jews in Europe declined but they kept reproducing in the US and elsewhere while Israel was being formed, Soviets also kicked out Jews before and after WWII because surprise they hated them too, many died in pogroms and purges by Stalin

to be fair, the kikes were pretty emaciated by the time they took their final shower. None of them were as robust as the people in your picture. But your point is still valid. It would be a lot of work to clean out the 200 contaminated kike bodies from the shower room, especially with the eye irritant added to zyklon b.

and, this is a big one, starvation due to allied bombing of german supply lines. this is partly why cooperating with the holocaust lie has been so beneficial for those that won the war, they were partially responsible for the death of jews.

>Doors were steel before they got removed and replaced sometimes by SS as part of the coverup while Soviets were advancing

Source please.

I don't see why it should be used for state execution, better than drug cocktails the pharma biz doesn't want to supply (bad PR)

Jews.

So now you have an open field with rotting corpses that are obviously noncombatants, and you think that
>Civilians around the area won't complain or be traumatized over the sight/smell
>Property owner won't complain about the tons of dead Jews blocking any use of the land if applicable
>Allied and Soviet troops won't use this as reason to throw everybody involved against a firing squad or in life imprisonment if they find it or if a reporter gets the story out (and they did, the rest of the world hated Jews too and didn't give a fuck because they seemed just like rumors)