This level of society would be able to harness all energy from its local star. This is where things start to get interesting and technology of this proportion becomes harder to fathom. A theoretical model that parallels Kardashev’s scale comes from Freeman Dyson, who conceived of the eponymous Dyson sphere. He formulated his theory in a paper titled, Search for Artificial Stellar Sources of Infrared Radiation, proposing a search for infrared radiation which could potentially be seen in civilizations harnessing the energy of their star with a Dyson Sphere.
Dyson theorized a progression of levels in which a civilization could start to extract energy from its star ranging from a swarm of satellites to an actual spherical structure hovering around the star that could be inhabited. This method of extracting energy from a star in a controlled manner is called star lifting.
Civilizations of this stature would essentially have reached the level of immortality because they would have the ability to move planets and other astronomical bodies within its solar system. Imagine if we had the ability to block an inbound asteroid by moving Mars into its path.
Will the earth become a type 1 civilization?
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No because in a decade whites will no longer exist
I don't think so.
Technological progress is more vast than human comfort.
We're going to get to a point in society where life is so comfy with our tech that we will begin to halt progress.
skin color is irrelevant
no because nonwhites exist
We probably won't even if humanity continues to progress. By the time that we're able to invest the ludicrous amount of resources into surrounding the sun with satellites a new, less costly, and more scaleable source of energy is likely to be discovered that also won't go against basic human instincts. Humans have evolved around the presence of a sun in the sky, and in places on Earth like the polar regions where there is no sun present for months at a time, the suicide rate skyrockets.
Anyway, assuming that alien civilizations generally develop so uniformly like that is baseless.
>all energy from its local star
That's a Type 2 you dingus. Type 1 is using the entire planet fully automated luxury communism style.
>Will the earth become a type 1 civilization?
That is assuming that progressing technologically is always going to be as laborious as we've traditionally known it to be. With advances in artificial intelligence (which already drives most medical research) there is no reason to believe that we won't someday be able to have our machines innovate for us.
Humans WILL go extinct and there’s NO hope for survival: It’s WHEN not if, biologists say.
>Dyson theorized a progression of levels in which a civilization could start to extract energy from its star ranging from a swarm of satellites to an actual spherical structure hovering around the star that could be inhabited. This method of extracting energy from a star in a controlled manner is called star lifting.
Meme physics. The sun is a fucking electrical transformer, it burns nothing. To "harvest" energy is to move it from where it is to where it isn't. "Type 1" is a meme in a limitless universe.
No it isn't. 65 million years and niggers still haven't fucking invented a wheel on there own
If the question is when, then you could easily reframe OP's post to ask if we will go extinct before or after building a dyson sphere. In fact, his post doesn't imply that humans might not go extinct at all.
And why would biologists have any more authority on the matter than, say, politicians, economists, psychologists, or scientists in other fields anyway?
Your thinking of level 2. Level one is harnessing the energy output of the planet and we aren't far off from that
Never met a nigger?
OP many people are starting to believe we were, at one time, getting close to becoming one. Ancient civilizations, much older than what is taught in school, in places like Peru and Egypt, absolutely existed. Elongated skulls that absolutely were NOT similar to modern day humanity were found at these ancient sites. This is not a conspiracy theory, this is shit you can literally look up and watch videos on. At one point in time there existed technology capable of moving huge, monolithic stones and stacking them with such precision you could not fit a human hair in the gaps. They are almost completely earthquake proof, and many of these ancient, 12,000+ year old structures are also acoustically tuned to the note A#.
Nikola Tesla destroyed most of his research and erased his findings. But he did write extensively on the importance of frequencies and vibrations. Many engineers believe that the ancient stonework shaped by these 12,000+ year old civilizations utilized tools that didn't drill, but vibrated.
Atlantis, as described by Plato (Who got his information from an older Greek that visited the dynastic Egyptians), existed as an island surrounded by an island. Two circles of land, three circles of water, with access to the Atlantic ocean to the south. Take a look at the "Eye of the Sahara" AKA the Richat Structure and view it on Google Maps for yourself. It matches Plato's descriptions absolutely perfectly. How could this be?
TL;DR: Ancient technology exists and is likely being withheld by the world elite in order to enslave us while they ascend to become greater beings or something like that.
what are you talking about?????????
does the sun not have mass and is burning??? Obviously it has mass, we are rotating around it.
Humanity is doomed, all the smart people will die out and the niggers and trash will be the only things left.
The only people capable of such achievement are whites and east asians.
Unfortunately it will be the negroes, arabs and the lation races that will take over this planet. With their average IQ of 80 all we can expect is our planet regressing back to the medieval era.
>skin colour is irrelevant
When Europeans were mastering steam power negroes still hadn't invented the wheel.
you do realize type 1 is still incredibly low, right? surely Trump can do better than that. I'm not expecting type 5, 4 or even 3 in my lifetime (unless we advance a lot faster than I believe we can), but surely if all white men unite we can form a type 2 society after exterminating the unworthy.
Unfortunately, the type 5s would likely never allow anyone new to go above 3, we will be exterminated ourselves before we can break out of their simulation universe and threaten them directly.
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I dunno much about Freeman Dyson but his daughter is CIA.
does the sun not have mass and is burning??? Obviously it has mass, we are rotating around it.
"Burning" what? By what? The only reason it has "mass" is because it itself is rotating around something else, The only reason the sun is visible in the first place is because of the resistance of the atmosphere changing the EM wavelengths. The only reason you can "see" it in space is because glass(lenses from cameras, space suit/windows) is an EM capacitor that acts like our atmosphere/Magnetic field. The only reason we perceive the sun to "emit heat/light" is because our fucking planet is a capacitor for EM to begin with. Go to a spot in space right next to earth that's the same distance away from the sun where there is no matter...you get no heat.
The sun is an electrical transformer that oscillates/vibrates which causes the medium (space) to also vibrate and oscillate. This motion also causes planets to do the same which is why we precess and turn.
If the sun instantaneously vanished we would evaporate into nothing. There would be nothing to churn a coherency in our core and we would sublimate into space itself.
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>WHAT IS A FALSE FLAG
These have been used throughout the history of mankind to subvert the course of time. To cause confusion and sow dissent!
>the history of false flags
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>Go to a spot in space right next to earth that's the same distance away from the sun where there is no matter...you get no heat.
can you talk a little more about this? i believe this is why the tesla they launched didnt burn up but i dont really understand how it works
This scale is fake and gay because we don't know properly how physics work. And we are fucked unless a miracle happens.
Tldr faggot who just watched bright insight and know thinks that fitting stones together is more impressive than the internet
Funniest reply to a future larp I have ever read...checked fren.
I thought the dyson sphere was type 3?
Pressure mediation
>Pressure of space that humans refer to as "Sun" causes EM waves which are the source of basically fucking everything
>pressure of space that humans refer to as "matter"/planets is compressed "space" (which is em)
>pressure of space that humans refer to as "black hole" is decompressed, hard vacuum "counterspace". It is the absence or process of creating absence of "space"
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Read a book stupid
>This man has viewed unscheduled programming and therefore must be discredited!
Fuck off, shill. I only found out about the Richat Structure from that dazzling smile of his on bright insight. The craftsmanship of ancient stonework is common fucking knowledge and everyone knows the Egyptians didn't build the pyramids.
The internet was created so humanity could spread knowledge and truth to the rest of civilization. SO THAT WE MAY ASCEND. Literal EVIL has soiled this metaphysical place with pornography, vanity, and envy. Elon Musk said it best when he said that all our hopes, dreams, and fears exist on the internet. It is just another obstacle on our path to divinity.
Read the bible, you fucking cocksucker.
Maybe if we nuke Africa and kill all blacks and Muslims. Otherwise nah, we're doomed.
This guy has never heard of Gravity
I agree.
Humanity will never become a type 1 civilization under capitalism. Capitalism is way too inefficient and is limited by capital. Also, investments that are not directly profitable wont be pursued.
When are you guys going to kill the caravan Un?
Who published that? Your local synagogue?
"Gravity" has never been explained by any branch of science. I refuse to say terms such as "anti-gravity" because "gravity" does not exist to begin with. Care to explain the cause of gravity or like many others are you just going to describe the effects of the human conceptual reification known as "gravity".
Reality is a reification of human perception
You can't explain anything without human perception because you have nothing to compare it to
You really think the world around you looks and sounds as you perceive it?
And science can't technically explain the origin of anything anyway, our best guess is "Nothing exploded and everything happened"
It was actually published by a very intelligent man who was friends with Nikola Tesla. Telsa himself told him he should keep the secrets contained in it away from humanity for a long time because we aren't ready. Walter Cronkite also refereed to Walter Russell as the Davinci of his time. Eventually his wife persuaded him to publish his works.
You faggots keep talking about gravity as if Einstein didn't already figure all that out, write it all down, and then it was all (((lost))).
We (((don't even know what his last words are because he spoke them to a nurse in German and she didn't know German))).
Wake the fuck up and deprogram yourselves.
>Reality is a reification of human perception
You can't reify what you do not understand. It is unreifiable, incommensurable.
>You can't explain anything without human perception because you have nothing to compare it to
Negation. "What it is not".
>You really think the world around you looks and sounds as you perceive it?
It doesn't exist. An illusion still a thing none the less.
>And science can't technically explain the origin of anything anyway, our best guess is "Nothing exploded and everything happened"
From nothing comes nothing.
>special guy sidesteps with special knowledge
That sad little smile on your face as you typed that in and got a half-chub, your greasy kind who thinks reading credible science is "shilling" are EXACTLY why fucking chinks are beating us in math and our entire fucking space program relies on some immigrant
gravity is electro magnetic phenomena thats why physics cant find it cause theyre looking at it wrong area, clearly a force exist idiot
no
and mankind will cause more damage than it's ever done before trying to achieve it.
eventually the entire thing collapses and left sort of resets so to speak. not a complete rest but a sort of roman collapse on a global scale.
(((einstein)))
nigger shut your dumb ass up
>EXACTLY why fucking chinks are beating us in math and our entire fucking space program relies on some immigrant
First off, the chinese are 2 steps away from cavemen. They can barely operate automobiles and have absolutely no sense of empathy whatsoever. In fact they've had multiple genocides involving tens of millions of chinese in each one. The only chinese that are smart are unsurprisingly the ones in the US where you actually get to go to school instead of picking up the family trade of rice patty farming. Their government builds entire cities with no one living in them, I think it's safe to say they fudge their grades in schools.
Second
>bottle rocket technology.
Yeah nah, fuck that shit.
Data mining thread.
nothing is dependent on our ability to measure something. if we cant measure it and perceive it its nothing from what we can prove.
so anything outside our universe of in a black hole can possible be proven by math only if the models are accurate enough. we cant go there and we cant probe it. therefore its either nothing or something, it remains too ambiguous to be certain. and without an ability to experiment the scientific method is inapplicable.
Species win. Animals BTFO.
>gravity is electro magnetic phenomena thats why physics cant find it cause theyre looking at it wrong area
> clearly a force exist idiot
I never said "a force doesn't exist". I meant gravity as a force does not exist. Gravity is nothing other than incoherent dielectric acceleration.
We’re already there user.
>t. user that is “in the know”
osawld spengler, ted kazynski, and lewis mumford in the myth of the machine all seem to agree with each other.
technology and development becomes a means to an end.
men must become machine themselves and dehumanize to futher technological development.
people need to become more and more controlled to do this.
nothing can control the way someone feels about themselves.
this Achilles heel and our inability to deal with the stress and demands needed for further technological development will cause the entire pursuit unstable and causes collapse.
>nothing is dependent on our ability to measure something. if we cant measure it and perceive it its nothing from what we can prove.
>Go to "nothing" to measure it
>It's no longer "nothing"
>because you're in it
>so anything outside our universe of in a black hole can possible be proven by math only if the models are accurate enough. we cant go there and we cant probe it. therefore its either nothing or something, it remains too ambiguous to be certain. and without an ability to experiment the scientific method is inapplicable.
There is no "outside". The universe is one thing and one thing only. Math only describes things, it doesn't explain the cause and is unable to explain the qualitative things. For example: If I had two ceramic/iron chunks that were made of the same material had the same "mass", then what why would one do something completely different if I were to magnetize it? Both chunks now have different observable effects, but only the quality of one has changed.
Quantity means absolutely nothing.
With no whites around that means there will be optimal levels of diversity. Human progress will increase exponentially - THE STARS WILL BE OURS!
Have faith in your Prime Minister, he knows what he's doing !
how are we supposed to ever become a Type 1 civilization with these niggers hanging around?
You do it in secret.
the point was that science depends on the scientific method which has its limits.
likewise math also has its limits.
from nothing comes nothing. in theory. defining and then saying when there is nothing can be a problem.
>Type 3
No man, type 3 has dyson spheres around multiple stars and is basically master of it's local star cluster. If you're a stargate fag, the Asgard were a type 3 civ.
First you get rid of the CIA
This is all a meme like how in the 50s they imagined the earth would be a multi layered skyscraper ecumenopolis, a delusion fed by the industrial revolution population boom. Every scientific advancement since has limited man's dream that science will someday unlock godhood
Man cannot traverse space beyond the ionosphere, it is another dimension.
Just because you can doesn't mean there's a good reason to. We wouldn't even know what to do with that much energy at the moment. By the time we do build a dyson swarm we'll probably have fusion reactors the size of a penny
As much as I like Freeman Dyson he is wrong
Any notion of harnessing celestial objects is a redundant fantasy and entirely unnecessary just as Elon Musks cybernetic mesh is a fantasy when he proposes to cure Parkinsons which already has a cure, a bong.
Everyone continuously over complicating everything
its a JOKE
A joke to smack the legs from under the peasants and baffle them with bullshit
You have a disease?
It already has a cure, trust me.
Pollution problems?
Put a plastic tax in place at international level, expedite the turnover to electric car by 2022 which trade schemes.
Re-funnel the NASA billions into public education
etc
Listen, nigger. I replied once to someone who is not you, and then you reply to me a bunch of times with gobbledygook.
We were talking about civilization progression trajectory theory, which was not posited by dyson. It was put forward by some Russkie. Maybe we don't use dyson cubes, whatever. The point is Type 3, according to the theory, is a civilization that has occupied multiple star systems, and mastered the energy output of those systems, and can basically start or prevent the end of the universe, you stupid nigger. Go to bed, it's a school night.
Energy crisis?
THERE IS NO ENERGY CRISIS
THE POOR ARE BEING ROBBED
AND ELON MUSK IS LETTING IT HAPPEN TO SPIT UPON THE FACE OF NIKOLA
THE POOR CANNOT AFFORD HIS PRODUCTS
YET HE USES THE TESLA NAME
WHAT THE FUCK GUYS
And bam nigger zoo?
Shut up user, I do not give a shit what humans think, you are wrong
You sound angry. Eat a bullet, it will help you feel better.
I am angry at the CIA
only the rich can afford a ticket on a steam train.
only the rich can afford a portable cellular telephone.
only the rich can afford a personal computer.
Ever heard of them?
Oh yes of course you have, you are one.
>be human
>actually think you will allowed Dyson Sphere
No
Is not allowed
We not allow
He has zero right to use the Tesla name
Don't engage him. He's an incoherent spammer
CIA you are so insecure
Well guess what
Now the rug is pulled from under you
but the sun is hot user
oh? he doesnt? oh okay my bad, you're right.
is this image shoop...
Amen. Fucking electric skates run on batteries when we could have wireless energy and levitation.
user I loathe the nazis
nice proxy faggot
we already do have levitation through ferromagnetism
No, this is tikkun olam Tower of Babel foolishness.
Things will get worse until Jesus comes back. Someone will try sh-t like this...it won't work...
>a Dyson Sphere
So you want the Earth to freeze over?
magnetic attraction/repulsion is the same as gravity yes. However all materials are affected by magnetism, it's the reason the effects are nerfed and we're not imploding on ourselves. Magnetism props the universe up.
Only the CIA can use proxies on Jow Forums because of cloud flare
go back to
>implying any civilization needs a dyson sphere once it masters fusion energy
fusion for sure will come before the system spanning empire needed for the logistics to build a dyson sphere
Do you know what ferromagnetism is?
Cold fusion was cracked in the 80s