Are You a Fake Christian or a Real One?

Fake Christianity, when it is political, allies with one or another pre-existing political party.
Real Christianity is an overtly and explicitly political movement, complete with its own King, its own Country, and its own Law.
Fake Christianity says you are saved by what you believe (aka Gnosticism)
Real Christianity says we are being saved by what we do.
Fake Christianity believes in a psychedelic Hellenist heaven you go to when you die.
Real Christianity preaches the resurrection, the judgement, and the bodily rule of Christ and all Saints over the New Creation in the Age to Come.
Fake Christianity believes God's grace excuses you from having to obey Jesus.
Real Christianity listens to Jesus and takes him seriously.
Fake Christianity is in and of the world.
Real Christianity is in the world but not of it.

Are you a fake Christian or a real one?

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Got tired of faking it.

Atheist here.

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>Real Christianity preaches the resurrection, the judgement, and the bodily rule of Christ and all Saints over the New Creation in the Age to Come.
Can you tell me about this? I've only heard of Heaven.

Sure.
The story goes that at the end, Jesus calls both the living and the dead before the judgement seat of Yahweh.
Those who have failed to be faithful to Jesus, however that is judged, are destroyed, along with the rebellious divine beings which have been running the world.
Those who have succeeded at being faithful to Jesus then replace the old divine beings, ruling a re-created world along with Him according to the will of its Creator.

>Real Christianity says we are being saved by what we do.

That's where you went wrong, kiddo.

You can still come to Jesus.
He loves all of us, and wants us to be free.
I'm sorry the traitors and gnostics damaged the Name for you.

A fake one I guess.
I was born in Commie Albania, so everyone had to be an le edgy atheist, but my parents and a lot of our neighbors secretly practiced Catholicism. I come from Catholic stock, my ancestors supposedly secretly practiced Catholicism in the ottoman empire as well regardless of it being illegal.
I didn't really care much, but I still say I'm non practicing. Honestly I don't even like Catholicism, I resonate more with Protestantism.
My fiance is a practicing Catholic from Sweden and she's trying to get me back into it, but I don't know.
Should I? I'm still spiritual and have faith, but I don't know if I should go back into it full depth.

You mind pointing me to a verse or anything else to read up on? I dislike this new Commercial Christianity (TM) that most of these megachurches are touting as well so I've been trying to get closer to the true meaning of the Word, but I don't remember reading anything in Revelation that sounds like what you're saying.

James 2:26 my dude.

You are wrong OP. What you call gnosticism is not christianity or fake christianity or whatever. You believe in jesus, you are saved. It's not hard to figure out if you try with an honest heart.

What you call real christianity is not christianity. If you believe jesus, you would surely believe him when he saved that whoever believeth in him goes to heaven.

Read about cain and abel for example.

>man becomes angels after the resurrection
>annihilationism

are you a JW?

Romans 2:6

who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS:

2 Corinthians 5:10

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

1 Corinthians 4:5

Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men's hearts; and then each man's praise will come to him from God.

1 Peter 1:17

If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one's work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth;

Revelation 20:12

And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.

Psalm 62:12

And lovingkindness is Yours, O Lord, For You recompense a man according to his work.

Proverbs 24:12

If you say, "See, we did not know this," Does He not consider it who weighs the hearts? And does He not know it who keeps your soul? And will He not render to man according to his work?

Colossians 3:25

For he who does wrong will receive the consequences of the wrong which he has done, and that without partiality.

Proverbs 11:31

If the righteous will be rewarded in the earth, How much more the wicked and the sinner!

1 Corinthians 3:8

Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor.

When he said*

its jewish basically

>christianty is too easy so i need a hardmode christianity to follow so i can look down on easymode plebs

OP you're just mad that less virtuous people than yourself also get into the same heaven as you.

Just go back and re-read the Revelation in light of what I told you.
Also, Romans 8.

No, but they are careful bible-readers.
Check out Ed Fudge, /The Fire That Consumes/.

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Yeah you post random excerps from scripture yet explain nothing. The message is really simple and still you misunderstand. I can't do anything other than point out your errors ask better questions if you want better answers.

There's no such thing as "heaven" the way you are thinking.
Give me a reference, just one, that says anyone "goes to heaven" when they die.

Not "anyone"

Only those who believe in jesus.

Thanks, I'll look into it.

We have a job to do.
Jesus said that everyone who heard the words for his and acted upon them would be like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
When the rains came and the waters rose, the house stood firm.
But, everyone who hears his words and does not act on them is like an ignorant man who built his house on the sand.
The rain came, and the waters rose, and the house fell down.
And great was its fall.

Your righteousness is filthy rags

with point 2 , do you mean the reign of Christ at the end of times, or has there ever been any country that was truly Christian in history?

Show me a bible verse that says the fate of believers is something called "heaven."
Surely, you must know one, being this confident.
I just paraphrased a large chunk of scripture off the top of my head.
Surely, you musty have at least one verse!

You are right. And I act on his words right now. Trying to teach a lost lamb the gospel.

You are lost, and conequently damned, unless you get back on the path jesus laid out for you. You get back on this path by believing in his word. Not by your own works. The bible says this in a bunch of ways a bunch of times.

Romans 13:1-5
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

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>the history of false flags
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>Real Christianity says we are being saved by what we do.
AKA
>Real Christianity says the bible is all BS, lmao it's by works senpai

KYS

A real Christian follows the ten commandments including follow the Sabbath (Saturday)

I give you my own words. My own word as a believer that jesus is the truth. If you believe the truth, you will go to heaven. I don't know what heaven is, besides life eternal with the father. I don't care that you wan't to be convinced in a specific way I have no stake in your fight for salvation. But you do.

That's a quote from Isaiah:

Oh that you would rend the heavens and come down,
that the mountains might quake at your presence—
as when fire kindles brushwood
and the fire causes water to boil—
to make your name known to your adversaries,
and that the nations might tremble at your presence!
When you did awesome things that we did not look for,
you came down, the mountains quaked at your presence.
From of old no one has heard
or perceived by the ear,
no eye has seen a God besides you,
who acts for those who wait for him.
You meet him who joyfully works righteousness,
those who remember you in your ways.
Behold, you were angry, and we sinned;
in our sins we have been a long time, and shall we be saved?
We have all become like one who is unclean,
and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment.
We all fade like a leaf,
and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.
There is no one who calls upon your name,
who rouses himself to take hold of you;
for you have hidden your face from us,
and have made us melt inc the hand of our iniquities.

It does not mean what your Reformist handlers have led you to believe.

The gospel is this:
Yahweh made a good world, and set man to rule over it in his stead.
They rebelled, and the rebellion brought ruin into creation.
Despite man's insolence, foolishness, and rebellion, Yahweh has seen fit to heroically act on the behalf of all who call upon his name, but sending Jesus as a Redeemer to rescue them out of bondage to the Evil One.
He rescues them by offering his very life, if only the people would be as faithful as a pure bride.

But, I don't expect any of this to resonate with you.
Your theology is 500 years old, invented by murderous, ambitious men.
It is horse shit.

fucking lol #notallchristians
Fuck your christkike religion jew worshiper

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A VERSE, IF YOU PLEASE.
I need some evidence.
Feelings won't matter in the end.
"Jews" after 70 AD had no legitimate way to pratice their cult.
There were no Jews after 70 AD.

You preach a false gospel. I don't know why you do this, but you seem like a very confused fellow. I preach the gospel jesus preached, calling it horseshit only shows everyone here your own folly. I did tell you to read about cain and abel if you wanted one example of how you are wrong. I implore you again to go read about them. Lets not debate further I don't feel like shitting up the thread more you can fling your shit at others now.

Yeah you need evidence because you don't have faith. Many such stories. Sad ones.

>has there ever been any country that was truly Christian in history?
No, but Poland was closest. In the sense that Poland most seriously tried to put Gospels into carnal reality

A VERSE.
Just cite one little shred of evidence.
I gave you a number of verses which agreed with each other, and its just the tip of the iceberg.
If you think you are going to stand in front of the King of the Universe and explain how you thought yout could still FOLLOW HIM without DOING WHAT HE SAID and He'll be fine with that, well, okay.
I, for one, will follow the Master's directions.
That's what a disciple does.
You, sir, are a knower.
Your knowledge and belief saves you?
They have a word for that:
Gnosticism.
Stop being vain.
Stand up for yourself, if you're a man.
We're talking facts here, not just what we think.
Listen to this:
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who DOES THE WILL of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
You are wrong.
I will keep posting scripture in big chunks until you admit it.

was the Catholic Church Christian ? or neither they nor the Reformers?

Real Christian, Jesus Christ is salvation

Christians in every Chruch might be Real Christians, if they follow Jesus and do what he says.
No earthly institution has exclusive claim to the title.

This.
Come the end of days it will not matter what church you are from what will matter is will you follow Christ or the Anti Christ

We need to start telling people Jesus is King before they all kill each other.
It's getting rough out there.

What good comes from posting scripture you obviously don't understand yourself? I already told you that I am doing his will right now; in answering you. Trying to get you to understand you need faith in order to not burn in hell for eternity. I don't think the father wants you to choose hell, and I don't think you want to either, but that is what you are doing when you keep denying the fact that jesus died for your sins. The reason I say that we shot stop "debating" is because I don't think I am capable of explaining something you don't want to understand to you. I already mentioned scripture. The story of cain and abel. It is one that perfectly explains how faith in jesus saves instead of faith in your own works. Yet you still don't go reading it like I told you? You want me to go get it and paste it here? Don't be such a child. It is obvious that you are not interested in changing your beliefs, just get a dopamine rush from feeling you are better than others. I am done with you.

I'm not going to boast about what I know and don't know about scripture.
I'm just waiting for you to make your case.
You are preaching the version of Christianity that is responsible for the world today.
I am preaching the version that is the solution, the same one Jesus taught.
You need to go read the Bible about 10 times straight through and stop relying on what your preacher taught you.
The fact that you haven't even referenced scripture tells me how much you know about scripture.

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Jesus is my teacher you fool. I literally don't need to read the bible 10 times. To quote that amazin black dude "the devil read the bible 5 times. Is he saved?"

I've made my case many times over already and you are blind not to see it. Have a nice looking picture so the thread isn't completely shit.

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I've been a fake Christian but I have been aware that I have been and I have not followed him well. I'm so lost. I used to go to an evangelical church with my parents and they loved it and both deeply served the lord and help others. But I feel so different. I went through this edgy phase of where I was an atheist from 11-16 mainly because I was angry at god. Angry because he took my father from me at 11 years old from lymphoma. And I recovered realized I was wrong to be so angry. I'm 22 now and never completely recovered. My mom still serves the lord like she has all her life and sometimes I feel like I have not done well by her, my father, and god. I'll admit even when I was atheist I still believed a bit I was just in a very bad state. What do? Should I return to my moms church and try and be a better Christian man in spite of some of the less real Christian things? Should I seek out a new church and start fresh? I've been curious about the orthodox church for a while...

So you want me to disregard the historical witness of the church, the scriptures, and the witness of the saints because "muh faith."
Go read the New Testament even once, then go read the Antenicene Fathers, read the Apocrypha, read anything.
If you think "muh faith" is compelling on the internet, you are sorely mistaken.

I would suggest radicalizing as soon as possible, mainly by reading what Jesus taught, and trying to do it.
Might make the folks at the evangelical church a little uncomfortable, but it will really make an impression!
But, seriously, just read Matthew 5-7 right now and then take a second to let it all sink in.

Above all you should believe in jesus. No one is so wicked that they are beyond salvation if they believe in jesus. Go to church if it pleases you and makes the bond with your mother stronger, is my advice. Make up some own traditions to make the bonds stronger if the church sucks. Good luck

The Bible is a translation of a translation of a translation. Words don't always translate perfectly into other languages, for example if someone said "Wake up" in English and wanted to translate that into another language people there would be like "Wake up? What the fuck does that expression mean?" It would be translated into something like "Open your eyes" instead.

Of course people won't agree on the meaning of a translation of a translation of a translation. People get out of it what they want. Look at how many different Christian denominations there are, no one agrees on what the Bible means when it says something.

Two faggots are arguing in this topic about whether a person is saved by deeds or faith alone. They're proof of it.

I don't think hell is compelling. So yes I'm saying you should stop believing you have it figured out, and believe jesus instead. This is also what jesus asked of people. To humble themselves and have faith. You are not very humble. How can the truth reach you when you won't let it? It can't. I don't care what you find compelling, but I do care about doing the lords work, trying to save souls. You might be out of reach of what I am capable of and I am sorry for that. But it doesn't change the fact that I am already saved, and you are not. It's your soul we are talking about here. You are responsible, with your free will and all. And stop saying I don't know scripture and stuff lol. I told you twice to read about cain and abel. That is scripture.

Well, when you know what what things like pistis and ergon and soter mean, some of the mystery sort of dissipates.
It's not like these things are impossibly mysterious.
They just take more than meme-tier levels of interest and research.

The word "soul" is psyche in the Greek, and in the OT it refers not to the everlasting eternal part of a person but of whole complete people (Septuagint).
I don't hope you trust me.
I intend to demonstrate the truth of my convictions with evidence, not rhetoric.

>are you worthy or unworthy
all are unworthy but afforded life through Christ

Doesn't matter the gospel stays the same. The truth is what the truth is. True words can be spoken in any language. Meaning you can save people with any language as your tool.

And cain wanted to please the lord with offerings of his own works. It didn't do him any good.

christ fanatics are as bad as muslims
god I fucking hate evangelicals

Lmao, I was raised being told what you described as fake Christianity is real Christianity. I do Christian works but you retards do a super shitty job of spreading your message. Spreading and preserving information is part of works.

>Look at how many different Christian denominations there are, no one agrees on what the Bible means when it says something.

That's because they don't actually care what the Bible teaches. They just create their own man-made dogma and tell everyone that it's in the Bible. The followers don't even bother to check. The belief that all other "Christians" are Sola Scriptura is actually a farce. They are no more Sola Scriptura than Catholics are.

God doesn't care about what you hate bro. But you do. See the problem here? Your problem that is. Why even bother stopping by here? Ask yourself some real questions, maybe you'll find some real answers.

>Two faggots are arguing in this topic about whether a person is saved by deeds or faith alone. They're proof of it.

>James 2:26 - Indeed, as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

>James 2:22 -You behold that [his] faith worked along with his works and by [his] works [his] faith was perfected

>James 2:24 YOU see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone.

>Romans 2:13 - For the hearers of law are not the ones righteous before God, but the doers of law will be declared righteous.

>James 1:22 - However, become doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves with false reasoning.

>(James 2:19) You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder.

The Bible answers itself. It's their fault for refusing to accept the obvious.

Abraham "wasn't considered right" before God. He was already counted as righteous but his faith in God was perfected by his deeds. It is DEMONSTRATIONS and DEEDS of faith that strengthen and perfect your faith. Same as how you BELIEVE that hitting the gym is salvation to the body but if you don't DEMONSTRATE and don't PRACTICE that belief it is nothing. You will be weak in body. Your faith without demonstrations and practice will be weakened in times of tribulation and confrontation. Look at the demons up above. They believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that faith in him saves. Yet why are they still counted as demons? Because their works are anti-Christ while believe IN Christ.

"Works" in the Bible is not charity. It is demonstrations or proof of genuine faith or actions motivated by faith. Not good deeds of charity otherwise Ellen Degenerate would be saved by her good deeds.

>That's because they don't actually care what the Bible teaches. They just create their own man-made dogma and tell everyone that it's in the Bible.
Every faggot does this. If the verse doesn’t agree with their views they just do yards of mental gymnastics like a Pharisee.

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You calling me a demon? Aight thats it for me in this thread lol. I tried. Forgive me for not trying harder but I believe you to be a lost cause for me so. Peace out

Some people don't actually read the Bible and then set out to instruct others about what it contains.
Pretty goofy, if you ask me.

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Nah, there is a harmonious reading of the Bible.
It just isn't the Protestant or Catholic one.

Because they aren’t genuine. They’re lying faggots who shill mental gymnastics to justify their personal desires.

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Some of it is not their fault.
They have been instructed by unscrupulous men.

That's because his works were "wicked." Abel's works and sacrifice were looked upon with favor.

Are you talking about the CI one? It holds more factual credibility than the mainstream interpretations of the sects you mentioned.

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Oh for goodness sake.
Let's just read it together:

Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, “I have gotten[a] a man with the help of the Lord.” And again, she bore his brother Abel. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a worker of the ground. In the course of time Cain brought to the Lord an offering of the fruit of the ground, and Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions. And the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering, but for Cain and his offering he had no regard. So Cain was very angry, and his face fell. The Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen? 7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is contrary to you, but you must rule over it.”

Cain spoke to Abel his brother. And when they were in the field, Cain rose up against his brother Abel and killed him. Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” He said, “I do not know; am I my brother's keeper?” And the Lord said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying to me from the ground. And now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it shall no longer yield to you its strength. You shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth.” Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, you have driven me today away from the ground, and from your face I shall be hidden. I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” Then the Lord said to him, “Not so! If anyone kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.” And the Lord put a mark on Cain, lest any who found him should attack him. Then Cain went away from the presence of the Lord and settled in the land of Nod,ea st of Eden.

>(2 Timothy 4:3, 4) For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories.

>(Matthew 7:21) “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.

>(Matthew 7:15) “Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.

>(Acts 20:29) I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among YOU and will not treat the flock with tenderness,

>(2 Peter 2:1) However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among YOU. These very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects and will disown even the owner that bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves.

>(1 Timothy 4:1) However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons,

>(2 Corinthians 11:13-15) For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light.FOR SATAN HIMSELF KEEPS TRANSFORMING HIMSELF INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT 15IT IS THEREFORE NOTHING GREAT IF HIS MINISTERS ALSO KEEP TRANSFORMING THEMSELVES INTO MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS...

It was prophesied this would happen.

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I'm talking about variations of the Radical reformations that have existed across the span of Christian history, folks who decided to believe Jesus and do what He says.

What is it you want to point out here? They both had works. Abel's was accepted; Cain's was rejected. Your own Bible says:

>7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is contrary to you, but you must rule over it.”

Do what well? What was there to do? Have faith? Faith in what? There was absolutely nothing to have faith in. All they had was works or demonstrations.

The system thinks my comments are spam now?
Wow.
The Adversary is real.

I'm OP, homie.
I'm a works guy.

Daily Reminder
> The Adamic Race is The White Race
> Created in the image of God himself as stated in the Book of Genesis
> Adam in Paleo-Hebrew means to blush in the face/show blood in the face, to be of a ruddy and fair complexion
>Non-whites are pre-adamic races
>Niggers are the "Beasts of the Field" mentioned numerous times throughout the Holy Bible
> Kikes are descendants of Cain
> Cain is son of the Devil
> The Devil produced his own humanoid bloodline on Earth to rival God's Adamic Creation
> Hebrews were not Semites but Caucasian
> The Israelites are the modern White Christian Nations and kindred peoples
> Whites have fulfilled every Israelite prophecy set in the Holy Bible
> We are God's chosen people
> Christ was also an Adamite because he descends from a pure Adamic Bloodline all the way back to Adam
> All of the Hebrew Prophets were White
This is the true redpill of Christianity
This is why the kikes hate whites, because we are from God and they from the Devil
Whites are the Lost Tribes of Israel
AMA and i will provide proofs

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You need to post with faith. Faith without post is dead.

Kek.

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I was just trying to say that eight out of ten times, I agree with the JayDub position.
Ya'll are some astute Bible readers.
Though, the fact that Jahovah is the consonants of Yahweh with the vowel accents of Adonai, and therefor a kind of portmanteau rather than a proper name, well, we differ on that.

shut up satan
Your words are like dog shit and are meant to deceive the people. We are righteous by faith and your tactics to deceive and subvert the faith are spotted clearly. If you take Jesus seriously then you treat His blood with proper respect lest you crucify Him all over again.

VERSES, YOU PRETENDER.
Then we'll have a conversation.
I think you have sat under the tutelage of wolves, and you have no idea what the Bible really contains.
So, prove me wrong.
School me, master.
I'm waiting to be convinced.
Show me what you've got.

Fair enough. So how are you coping tonight in this night of demons and spiritism outside?

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I spent a few minutes googling your hypothesis and was surprised to find your NOT full of shit. Japheth, is said to be the ancestor to Aryans, Persians, Medes, and Greeks. Shem is said to be the ancestor to the Jews and Ham... well no one gives a flying fuck about that nigger.

You're a fool if you believe the lie that you can be as God through your works. You've had thousands of years to make due on satan's bold statement and humanity has failed. Humanity cannot be like God without the transformative power of Christ Jesus.

Here's the thing, bro.
Knowing what's really going on in the Creation is crazy-making stuff.
Once you see it, you REALLY see it, you realize how foolish you used to be...
and how vulnerable and soft people are without the Gospel.
It's kind of scary, knowing that you are just out there in this sea of automatons, just moving like weather according to whatever the kingdoms of this world tell them to do.
Then, out here, there is the Church in splinters and shards all scattered out across everywhere, and the hope of my heart is that they would just wake up and get to letting the Spirit enact the Kingdom, so the world would see what humanity could be like if Yahweh had his way.
He sort of owes us to us, at risk of sounding Pharisaical.
He made this place, and he is responsible for it.
I love him, but I know his reputation.
I have read the Psalms.
I get it.

So, in short, I really hope to see a great movement of the Kingdom here in my lifetime, and I want to be more motivated to do more toward that end.
It's nice to at least believe that on the other end of this message is someone who might identify with what I am saying.
Christianity is a group, a body, a Nation...
Without that, a person is just plain dismembered.

You can't do it.
Prove yourself, you silly boy.

>Humanity cannot be like God without the transformative power of Christ Jesus.
Though, to be fair, this is true.

The Bible tells us that after Jesus’ sacrifice at the cross, God imputes righteousness not to those who strive to obey the law (see Galatians 2:16), but to anyone who believes in His Son. Because Christ took our sins and gave us His righteousness (see 2 Corinthians 5:21), the moment we believe in Him, God treats us as righteous apart from our works or obedience (see Romans 4:5–8). This is new covenant righteousness—a righteousness that comes by faith and not works. You are not righteous because of how morally upright you are. You are not righteous because you exercise self-control. You are not righteous because you read 10 chapters of the Bible daily. You are not righteous because you feel righteous. But you are the very righteousness of God in Christ solely because the sacrifice of Jesus made you so. When you believe this, your faith is accounted for righteousness. We resist the devil not by focusing on resisting him, but by being established in the faith that we are made right with God through Jesus’ blood, that we are the righteousness of God in Christ (see 2 Corinthians 5:21). The path of the goat is to glorify your own works, believing they follow you. Yet your deeds are like dog shit to the LORD. Praise, glory and honor be to Christ only. Salvation comes from the Blood of the Lamb ONLY

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All of Noah's sons were White
But Shem's bloodline is where the Israelites come from, and that is where the modern White Christian Nations come from.
Japheth race-mixed with gooks and created the Turkic peoples
Ham race-mixed with kikes and created the Canaanites (modern kikes)
It's not a hypothesis, its the truth.
Only the White Race has fulfilled every Biblical Prophecy that inly the Israelites would fulfill in history.
And there is many proofs connecting the Hebrews and Israelites to the modern White Christian Nations of The Anglo-Sphere and Europe.

How does one know when one believes something? Does this occur at the moment where you silently tell it to yourself repeatedly? Does it only happen in some metaphysical way? Sometimes I don't know what I believe because I'm not sure which things I'm simply telling myself and which things I'm just too lazy to ponder about, so I "believe" it. Serious question.

I am one of the elect who was per-destined to believe in salvation by faith alone.

Okay I see where I misunderstood. I'd appreciate it if you posted some links to further reading if you don't mind.

AnsweredAlso

(James 2:14) Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it?

>(Titus 3:8) Faithful is the saying, and concerning these things I desire you to make firm assertions constantly, in order that those who have believed God may keep their minds on maintaining fine works. These things are fine and beneficial to men.

>(James 1:25) But he who peers into the perfect law that belongs to freedom and who persists in [it], this [man], because he has become, not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, will be happy in his doing [it].

>(Deuteronomy 30:14) For the word is very near you, in your own mouth and in your own heart, that you may do it.

>(Matthew 7:24) “Therefore everyone that hears these sayings of mine and does them will be likened to a discreet man, who built his house upon the rock-mass.

>(John 13:17) If YOU know these things, happy YOU are if YOU do them.

>(1 Timothy 6:18) to work at good, to be rich in fine works, to be liberal, ready to share,

>(Hebrews 6:10) For God is not unrighteous so as to forget YOUR work and the love YOU showed for his name, in that YOU have ministered to the holy ones and continue ministering.

Shall I go on?

Oh man.
You're making me actually use the Bible.
Thanks, by the way, for not being a pussy.
Anyhow, to what you were saying.

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Galatians 2:

Galatians 2 is about how on earth the covenant members of Abraham's family and the gentiles could possibly get along
(poltards, plug your ears. You won't like any of this)
The issue at hand is not some esoterica argument about how God legally accounts for your guilt or innocence.
It actually has to do with this, at v. 3:
Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek. This matter arose because some false believers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves. We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might be preserved for you.

What Paul is talking about in the epistle is the fact that all peoples, not just Abraham's descendents, are subject to the covenant blessings Abraham was promised, thanks to Christ making an an end to the emnity between the two parties at the cross (as in 2 Eph, Rom 8 at length, etc).
The works of the law, the ritual ethnic identifiers of the Jews, is no longer the criteria for membership in the people of God:
Rather, faithfulness to Kibng Jesus is all that counts.

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2 Cor 5

This one is easy...
Jesus took our place, that is to say, took on the consequence of our sin, and in a more particular manner the sin of Israel, so as to satisfy the Abrahamic Covenant and thus validate Yahweh's faithfulness while simultaneously, by enacting the perfect Spirit-powered life, create the seed for the new-Adamic Race.
Sorry if that was dense, but scripture is sort of esoteric sometimes.