The right wing has a tendency to be more religious and more philosophically minded. With this in mind, there is a great schism in the right (particularly the "far right"). That is Christianity vs Paganism?
Which one is the correct and true path and which one is the jews trying to corrupt the white race?
Here are a few basic resources that aren't great but give a basic breakdown of both sides.
Yes, personally as a pagan I don't mind Christians as long as they aren't preachy, blood should come before all that anyway
Aiden Howard
I am a Pagan as well. I think that Christianity is not evil as long as it comes as an expression of the true European spirit. Protestantism, modern catholicism, and many Orthodox groups forsake their European ancestry on behalf of jewish ideas.
Anthony Rodriguez
>implying there has to be a correct certain one Paganism is dead and christianity has evolved into christ cuckery. Neither ever did anything for the white race. Paganism was just heavily trad nomads living together and doing whatever the fuck they wanted or killing each other and all christianity has contributed of significance are the crusades. The first few were alright actually but the 4th crusade and the northern crusade we're inherently anti white and a disgrace.
Bentley Perez
The problem is christians put (((Jesus))) above everything else. They would marry their daughters to niggers as long as they are christians because their religion is more important than their own blood for them. They simply can't be trusted.
Exactly. In ancient times, there wasn't even a name for the Paganism of the Scandinavians. It was literally synonymous with just being Norse. If you were norse, these were your gods. Same with the greeks, romans, slavs, and celts. Paganism is our identity. To be white is to be pagan.
Just like atheist Jews still call themselves jews, paganism is blood.
Daniel Kelly
Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek; later, the Levites would receive tithes from their countrymen. Since Aaron was in Abraham's loins then, it was as if the Aaronic priesthood were paying tithes to Melchizedek. (Heb. 7:4-10)
The one who blesses is always greater than the one being blessed. Thus, Melchizedek was greater than Abraham. As Levi was yet in the loins of Abraham, it follows that Melchizedek is greater than Levi. (Heb. 7:7-10)
If the priesthood of Aaron were effective, God would not have called a new priest in a different order in Psalm 110. (Heb. 7:11)
The basis of the Aaronic priesthood was ancestry; the basis of the priesthood of Melchizedek is everlasting life. That is, there is no interruption due to a priest's death. (Heb. 7:8,15-16,23-25)
Christ, being sinless, does not need a sacrifice for his own sins. (Heb. 7:26-27)
The priesthood of Melchizedek is more effective because it required a single sacrifice once and for all (Jesus), while the Levitical priesthood made endless sacrifices. (Heb. 7:27)
The Aaronic priests serve (or, rather, served) in an earthly copy and shadow of the heavenly Temple, which Jesus serves in. (Heb. 8:5)
Mason Garcia
Paganism and christianity are 100% compattible. Christianity is an offshoot of platonic thought.
Owen Hernandez
uh, Platonic thought along the Aristotelian line gave rise to Nietzsche and Feurbach. A common philosophical principle does not equal compatibility.
Basically this is (((Juden Peterstein))) vs. Varg Vikernes, Odin incarnate lol.
Joshua Flores
There is always desire to be something more within human. Usually it manifest itself through materialistic ways, sexual ways, through drugs or parenthood example. It is endless chasing, rat-race that leads nowhere but keeps you busy through own creation that people calls as life.
We can't remember our time as toddlers because we didn't exist in that time. We had no identity. Only when years has gone while we gathered data from our environment we created identity. When we have our identity, we decide what matters to us. Then we experience impulsive feelings when things didn't go as we wanted.
We are piece of life that creates own image and plays it (Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His own image). We get so tangled to our own creation that it can kill us and bring us into hell. We think that something or someone causes our misery even when we alone create everything within.
We have all this mysterious desire to do something, be something more. It usually manifest itself through sexual ways, materialistic ways, through parenthood, dating, drugs, games, food, alcohol.. you name it. Through that it leads nowhere, it keeps us happy for a moment and then we need more. So where we are now? We are piece of life that want to experience bigger part of it. Through physical ways it finds not that part and when that need to expand finds no expression we create this pain within. So what to do? This is what meditation is all about. We don't want to identify to our thoughts or to our outward senses. That is just the data we gathered from the physical and created self from it. When we learn to be still, just be as piece of life, something start to happen that seems to expand you into everywhere. It seems to that consciousness, awareness is the basic that exist and everything else is manifest of it.
What (((they))) wan't is to bind us more and more into physical, sins, into that rat-race i wrote about above, so that we wouldn't learn or even think about this.
I've noticed that often times self described "pagans" rarely believe in God or gods. And moreover don't have coherent philosophy beyond Christianity bad and some sort of political ideology plus some half assed philosophy based on Jungian archetypes or new age crap.
Eli Allen
How many in right wing pagan/odinism, in a legit number? Like 30,000? Vs millions (literally millions) of christians? That's not a schism.
Xavier Lewis
Oh I forgot, the half assed philosophy may also include Nietzscheanism, along with Jungian archetypes or new age crap.
Ayden White
I've read Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Will to Power, the Antichrist, Beyond Good and Evil, and the Birth of Tragedy. Paganism isn't a superstition if you view it how the ancients actually viewed it. Odin isnt some dude in the sky. He is the collective and personified wisdom of our forefathers and a conceptual manifestation of the sacrifices they made for our survival and well being (i.e. Odins eye in mimirs well)
Cameron Hughes
The fuck is this, the wanna be highbrow "I read this once because I sniff my own farts" thread.
Fucking great. People with zero life experience who know it all.
Ryder Cook
Vanguard is for retard. You morons who spout " kill all da juice! " do more harm to the White Race and the cause of defeating the Financial System than any Religion ever will. Alex Linder is one of the biggest dumbfucks I've ever heard. Took him 40+ hours to read a barely 125 page book because of his retarded rants.
Hudson King
>I think that Christianity is not evil Jews wrote the entirety of the Bible. Do you trust Jews? Anything they have ever written is inherently evil. Christianity is a kike religion.
Jaxon Green
Any white man has to realize that even catholicism is just a weird form of Roman paganism and hebrewism. The catholics call Mary "Our holy mother of wisdom", despite no where in the bible saying Mary was a gatekeeper of wisdom. The bible says the Holy Spirit is, not Mary.
It is a pagan idea that there is a Matriarchal Goddess that holds knowledge, and so christianity was adapted to Pagan beliefs so that Rome could mass convert more easily. I'm suspicious of anyone who wants to completely throw christianity away though, but yes it's not going to last much longer among whites. Blood comes first.
Noah Gutierrez
You know nothing of history you tard. Everyone outside the Roman Empire wasn't a nomad you dumb faggot. And speaking of, all the great Greek civilizations and Rome were both pagan. I don't think bringing it back is realistic, and I'm not pagan, but I think paganism is sort of a baseline, it doesn't likely change a people fundamentally, while highly personal monotheistic religions have great potential (for change, which might be good or bad). I think Europe is better off with Christianity because it united Europe just enough to conquer the rest of the world economically. It's outlived its usefulness, but the only other option we have right now is atheism. Or islam. Christianity may be cucked these days but I suppose it's better than the alternatives.
Michael Evans
While Christianity in it's cultural genesis firmly sits betwixt the Hebrew, Greek and Roman worlds. Theologically speaking it is a faithful expression of the Abrahamic Tradition, the veneration of saints like Mary is the logical product of their sanctification, as they are perfected in the presence of God they become like gods and can intercede on our behalf.
Nathan Parker
>I'm suspicious of anyone who wants to completely throw christianity away though It is rotten at the core as the foundation is compromised. Christianity is based on the Bible and the Bible was written by kikes. The only way forward is to disregard all of Christianity; it is a poison meant to subvert strong white men.
Jacob James
If you want to view it as a Jungian archetype sort of thing, cool, but I think it's something we should be moving away from. We need to be looking forward towards the Übermensch, not backward to what some of our ancestors believed hundreds of years ago.
James Ramirez
They left are just as, if not more religious then the right is. They worship foreigners, degenerates and Semites.
Camden Stewart
This is an example of the genetic fallacy. The source of some claim doesn't not necessarily falsify the claim itself.
Isaiah Baker
the only ones trying to divide white people via religion are jews.
Chase Bailey
When the sources are all Jews then in this case it does and into the trash it goes. Give me one example of something beneficial for whites that was created by a kike. Inb4 (((Einstein))) because if you're redpilled you know he plagiarized all of his theories.
Jose Gonzalez
"Thus Spoke Zarathustra" is written such that it is easily accessible to anyone with even the most modest intellect. It wouldn't kill you to read a book that has had such a substantial impact on thousands of readers, including Adolf, you know.
Not advocating Vanguard. It's literally one short article by WLP that if you actually would actually pull your head out of your ass and read, you'd understand it's not about "kill all da juice".
Aiden Wood
Paganism is irrelevant to Christians desu and any of their critiques can be thrown right back at them. Neo paganism is today mostly degenerate scum pushing modernism. This is indisputable
Jonathan Jackson
My sides are in orbit, the larping here is hilarious.
David Stewart
all of our institutions and cultural centers have been infiltrated and corrupted. if we give them up what will we have left?
Easton Johnson
No. There can't really be said to be a "schism" between Christians and bagans when one side numbers in the hundreds of millions and the other numbers barely ten thousand, and they have had nothing but animosity toward each other since they came into contact.
Sebastian Wright
I'm a Christian, although remember not all Christian sects are the same, so it isn't accurate to portray the issue as >pagan or christian Also, pagans aren't the overwhelming majority make up of right wing movements, they are a loud minority. I personally don't mind pagans, but I take most of their words not seriously, especially if they are from countries like the USA, Aussie, Canada, etc. Where paganism never contributed to their country, or if they are atheists who LARP as pagans. Apart from that, they are okay.
Henry Adams
There is a difference between an institution that has been subverted and corrupted and one created by Jews to begin with in order to pacify the gentiles. The former can be restored while the latter is corrupt by its very nature - the foundation itself is untenable.
Justin Gray
These are the types of moron that I'm against. The US already had an Americana, non-european, anti-catholic, and anti-jewish culture. It was called WASP America, where this country surpassed all countries and civilizations within a short time span. You can push your pagan and pro-european bullshit for Europe, but the USA wasn't based in the past because of pagans. Christians made up the overwhelming majority, although as usual, the small minority of kikes, along with catholics, pushed for religious diversity, and immigration to increase their numbers.
Adrian Brooks
I find it so sad what was taken from us through violence. How could a semitic religion be superior to native European ones? Native European religions are our own creations. They were created with our very essence. There can be nothing more right.
>one created by Jews to begin with in order to pacify the gentiles. That apparently backfired for most of Christianity's existence, since for the longest time Christians didn't allow Jews to hold certain positions/ discriminated against them. Also, if you genuinely think that a shared origin signifies that anything derived from said origin is the same, then you are retarded. Christianity is a different religion from Judaism, it doesn't follow Jewish laws in the OT. I might as well apply your logic to the Indo-European ties of paganism, and call your religion corrupted from its establishment, considering that subhumans established it. Also, Christianity was formally established in Europe.
Dominic Wright
Don't forget the infiltration of Christianity by atheists, and non-Christians is common in Europe. Tons of "state churches" allow non-Christians to be pastors, and many European Christians are just as religious as American atheists, in some instances atheists in the USA are actually more religious/ spiritual than Christians in Western Europe.
A lot of "Christian" political groups in Europe are secular-humanist groups, a lot of churches push leftist political crap, whilst ignoring much of the Bible. Some churches even go as far as removing crosses and bibles.
Ryan Hernandez
this. Christianity has been inherently anti-semitic since it's creation, up until the end of WW2. Revelations 2:9 and 3:9
>That apparently backfired for most of Christianity's existence, since for the longest time Christians didn't allow Jews to hold certain positions/ discriminated against them. This was by design. It prohibited Christians from practicing usury but not the Jews and this allowed them to take control of the eventual finance and banking industries and thoroughly subvert the Christian nations. The "discrimination" you mention was used in order to frame themselves as the victims, the eternally persecuted Jews. Christianity was intentionally designed by Jews as a poison and a tool. You are very bluepilled.
Orthodox Christian here (recent convert, was a pagan for years) I still think paganism is just as important and worthy of preserving. My brother is a pagan and I might rip on him all the time and tell him he's going to hell and awful things like that but I think it's important to preserve things that people are culturally connected to. Whatever brings you closer to God is a good thing (except for Islam) I still wear my Kolovrat every now and then, I don't think Jesus minds
Alexander Perez
>I don't think Jesus minds You would be wrong.
Easton Cox
Why did you convert and why do you think a religion created by Jews is better than one created by white men?
Levi Hughes
>That apparently backfired for most of Christianity's existence, since for the longest time Christians didn't allow Jews to hold certain positions/ discriminated against them. You don't seem to understand that the reason that Semites who are non-native to Europe were allowed to live in Europe at all was Christianity. >it doesn't follow Jewish laws in the OT. It would probably be better if it did. At least the Jews practice an eye for an eye and racial separation rather than turn the other cheek and there is no difference between you jew or gentile. >Christianity was formally established in Europe. Wtf kind of Christian sect are you part of? Because the overwhelming number of Christians believe that it was started in the middle east by Jesus Christ and then spread to 12 Jewish disciples.
Henry Kelly
I really can't explain what made me convert. Some awful things happened in the last few years and something about Orthodox Christianity spoke to me. I still have thoughts as to whether I'm doing the right thing, frankly. The local "pagan" community is full of a bunch of faggot basedboys and wiccans so I guess that doesn't help to an extent. Fuck off, nigger I do what I want
Nolan Ward
To me it sounds like you converted out of superstition. The only way forward is for white men to create a new religion based on paganism. As it stands, pagans are larping and their religion is a meme - they don't truly believe it. A modern religion for modern times is needed, one created by white Europeans for white Europeans and one whose foundation is pagan by nature.
Julian Martin
I'm a pagan convert to Christianity. Heathenry has a lot of good points, Christianity is better. If there were some "Church of Heathenry" that might help, but as it is I never see Christians suggesting pagans can't be right wing, just that they're going to Hell. I'll gladly partner with pagans politically and pray for them privately. But I constantly see anons CLAIMING to be pagan screaming that Christians who are right wing politically on 100 pct everything should be ostracized. Which...is suspiciously Alinskyish. Since we know the number of actual pagans is relatively tiny, I am inclined to believe that someone who claims to be pagan but ONLY denounces Christianity is just lying. When I was a heathen I thought Christians were stupid but I was too interested in honoring my ancestors to waste time seeking out boards to post BTFO Christians. And now that I'm Christian I'm more interested in trying to be a good Christian than in telling pagans all the ways they are wrong. And in a lot of ways they are right.
Nah not exactly out of superstition, I did read the Bible and I found a lot of truth in it, a lot of what's in there parallels to what's going on in the world today. The Bible is redpilled as fuck tbqh. And yeah you're right about the LARPing thing, a lot of """"pagans"""" I've met are just metalheads that wear a Mjolnir to be edgy
Austin King
Jow Forums IS A CHRISTIAN BOARD ENGLISH IS A CHRISTIAN LANGUAGE THE ALPHABET IS A CHRISTIAN RUNE SYSTEM IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO LIVE IN A NON CHRISTIAN STATE WITH A NON CHRISTIAN ALPHABET AND NON CHRISTIAN LANGUAGE
PAGAN ISNT EVEN A RELIGION IT JUST MEANS NON-CHRISTIAN THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PAGAN RELIGIONS PAGAN JUST MEANS YOU AREN'T CHRISTIAN LMAO >PAGAN NOT A RELIGION ITS AN INSULT
>we need to dispose Christianity, because it is a foreign invention and not native to Europe >we need to dispose of gunpowder, compass, paper and fireworks, because it is a foreign invention and not native to Europe LARPagan logic, everyone.
Tools are not an ideology. An ideology created by Jews is poison. Try harder Shlomo.
Henry Jenkins
I'd love to be like OP's pic, but sadly this is the usual actual result. We have a war to fight, retards. If some anons want to be Christian so long as it does not harm the white race then let them. And if other anons want to rediscover their ancestor's ways then let them. All of this is a massive distraction, as every second that Israel continues to exist proves for a worse life for both groups, and for atheist anons as well.
You are unironicaly the only pro white pagan I've seen on here. Most pagans place religion before blood or creed. I'm not complaining, we need voices like you to tell pagans to stop being (((infighters)))
Jesus fucking Christ read a history book. Modern racism is generally a new concept created by the Spaniards during the reconquista and exasperated to keep their positions in the new world, Romans, Greek, Iberians tribes, Anglo tribes your precious "Vikings" were the most notorious interbreeders. Goddamn the white bloodlines gets stupider the "purer" it gets.
Dylan Butler
>If some anons want to be Christian so long as it does not harm the white race then let them. >every second that Israel continues to exist proves for a worse life for both groups In the United States, over 70% of Evangelical Christians support the state of Israel, morr than any other group. >Vaccinations These things have allowed more niggers to live and breed in Africa and has increased the nigger population in the world. There is a reason (((Bill Gates))) and the kikes push vaccinations so hard. All part of replacing the white man. Also vaccines cause autism. You can mention tech "created" (plagiarized) by kikes but name a single IDEOLOGY created for them that is beneficial for white Europeans. There isn't any. Kikes gonna kike.
Colton Miller
The true pro white man adopts any idea that benefits his race. The user your replied to had a legitimate complaint about pagans dismissing literally anything that isn't Iron age tribalism and therefore not EVROPEAN. And yes I'm referring to Noric pagans who represent the majority of pagans here, not meds (who Nordic pagans hate)
Liam Walker
Funny thing is that pagan threads are always bombed by Christians and not the other way around
Christian Baker
Cucktianity does not benefit the white race. It is a Jewish pacifist religion. Look at how modern Christcucks behave today. All cuckold faggots.
Evan Harris
It seems wrong to take on the God and scripture of a foreign semitic people from the middle east. It seems particularly wrong for white men to name their white sons after figures from Hebrew scripture. Regardless of its origin there are also componenets of Christ's teachings that easily serve as proto-progressive, leftist, universalist ideology. I'm not a Christian and do not worship the penis-mutilating God of Abraham.
That being said, I recognize that in Eastern Europe, the one part of the white world where Christianity is still very strong, it can serve as a bulwork against degeneracy and as a pillar of nationalism, opposition to mass-immigration, and anti-islamization sentiments.
I do think we are probably past the zenith of Christianity, and I'm not sure what the next hegemonic spiritual belief system in western civilization will be- there may never be one.
Adam Kelly
Fuck that shit. That's not what I mean at all. Friends fight, and that's great when we don't have an external threat. So as soon as the outer problems are gone, we can go back to hating each other.
Henry Cox
The number of far right, hyper conservative Pagans are growing my dude.
Levi Stewart
Good job missing the point of his response goober.
Noah Taylor
If you're not a pacifist what violence do you participate in for the White Race?
Dylan Cooper
Disengenuous as fuck. You're not fooling anyone here dude, we've all seen the christian threads get flooded by pagans. Not sure why you'd lie... Unless you simply have not entered them.
Michael Jones
>The number of far right, hyper conservative Pagans are growing my dude.
Your full of shit no one outside of the Norse country’s have been born into Paganism in thousands of years. If you where you’re parents where not real Pagans but faggot hippies.
Ian Davis
Develop some reading comprehension you fucking Brainlet. No part of your ramble had anything to do with my post you complete dumbass. God the NPC meme is so heavily repeated, but you sound like a fucking script from a varg Vickernes comment section, holy shit.
Nice edge bro. What authority does an expatriate have to say someoe else cannot join a religion of a foreign land. "Paganism" doesn't even have a figure head or religious authority. There is no officiation or regulations. Anyone can be a Pagan. You can't force them not to be a Pagan. You can't force me to be unPagan.
Jose Thompson
So you are a pacifist? Okay. I thought so.
Brody Edwards
Did you even read the Sagas?
Jayden Sanchez
>when you’re trying to save the White Christian race and you being paganism into it.
This. Pagans say Christianity is a global religion, while lacking the self awareness that you cannot force someone NOT to believe a set of ideas. Paganism is just as "global" as anything else
Owen Lee
That's so stupid I'm not even gonna respond.
Jace Garcia
Well youre hiding your flag so hiding your voice doesnt surprise anyone, coward.
Jonathan Campbell
Some Jew Rasta?
John Johnson
Joyofsatan.com .
Samuel Nelson
>Jews trying to corrupt the white race OH MY GOD IT'S THE JOOZ! IT'S THE JOOOOZ! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE--!!!!
Atheists too. Fuck Islam, fuck judaism, fuck degenerate communism. Pagans and christians are my brothers. Sikhs and Zoroastrians are respectable too but we're talking about EUROPEAN culture, so those two. Though tbf, Persian immigrants are more based and anti white genocide cuz they like western culture and say "WE WUZ ARYAN KANGZ BEFORE ISLAM". Anyway COMMUNI SENSU VAULT
Hunter Phillips
He said he was a Pagan who converted to Christianity you fuck wit. I am saying that is highly unlikely. Do you even read the whole post before you reply?
