Have any of you seen the new interview between Jordan Peterson and feminist journalist Helen Lewis youtube.com/watch?v=yZYQpge1W5s
I'm afraid our guy Jordan Peterson gets absolutely toyed with and torn to pieces. It's a little like the Cathy Newman interview but in reverse. Out of 5 or 6 major arguments that take place during the interview Jordan can only possibly claim to have the upper hand in about 2.
But anyway more importantly than that over the course of the interview I found myself with a stronger and stronger desire to fuck Helen Lewis and knock her up and have an combine my genes with her very high IQ genes. Seeing her enjoy getting the better of Jordan Peterson and enjoy winning the arguments and see her smug, motherly smile like she's talking to a difficult child that she finds cute just made me want to fuck her face and knock her up during intense sex while she provokes me so badly. Does anyone else know what I mean? My current GF's IQ is probably only about 110-115 and now I really want to impregnate a girl who is more intelligent than me. Or even better, beat her in an argument that I shouldn't be able to win and pillage her womb. I really want to contact Helen and let her know how much I want to fuck her intelligent brains out and cum on her entirely warranted self-satisfied and condescending face.
First of all JP tries to deny that the patriarchy has ever existed and is forced to concede in the first 12 minutes that the conditions of lower legal rights of women in the early 20th century and before were the result of male behaviour that was reversed by suffragette and feminist intellectual and political movements and he had no response.
even withn the first 12 minutes he was totally outmanouvered and unable to defend his over-reaching claims and had no response except to sulk and go quiet.
And through out the interview she lured then pointed out his hypocritical behaviour , for example when he said something like "I find this conversation boring because I know everything you're going to say because you're an ideological zombie" and then she pointed out that it sounded like he wasn't following his rule for life that you should talk to people as though they might know something valuable that you don't know and then asked him to guess her views on transgender issues which he got totally wrong and he had to concede. Throughout he interrupted her way more than vice versa, tried to go on the attack much more than her and almost every time came off the worse for it. He was like a bull chasing a flag while the matador stepped out of the way and inserted swords into him.
It was just so bad for him. It wouldn't have been nearly as bad if he hadn't reached so far with his claims to begin with then tried to get revenge or go on the attack afterwards.
but anyway enough of that I'm really making this thread because I want to cum inside Helen Lewis so badly now and turn her into my breeding sow and pit my wits against her.
Austin Rivera
Ok great women are better than men the future is female etc..
Josiah Ross
I'm afraid Juden Patreon told us off for our anti semitism while playing interference for kike trickery one too many times.
he can claim to have the upperhand on the argument about the shared evolved behaviour of social hierarchies. It might be that he's wrong but Helen didn't bring a good argument for why he's wrong, she just name-dropped other scientists who supposedly think so but did not provide their argument for why they think so, so she didn't win the argument there.
The other one I can't quite remember but it might have been where Jordan pointed out that women would compete with each other over looks and make up without any coersion or oppressive social system caused by men and Helen didn't have much of an answer and hesitated as though she knew that Jordan was right. However that line of argument was quite vague because jordan was asking a lot of different questions in a row as a kind of offensive tactic because he felt wrong-footed for his losses so far in the conversation and he did in the process change the goalposts from what that line of argument started out as. The argument started out as Helen pointing out that Jordan saying that rouge was to look similar to ripe fruit is silly because ripe fruit don't always look red so how would their be an evolutionary incentive to find red things attractive because some ripe fruit are red. So that wasn't a particularly clean victory for peterson.
Basically all the other major arguments Helen Lewis got the better of him. Especially the opening one where he way over-reached by denying the idea of a patriarchy having any validity in human history and was forced to concede otherwise by the 12 minute mark.
Lucas Jenkins
>denying the idea of a patriarchy having any validity in human history
It did not, what they call the patriarchy now was acknowledged as the natural order back then.
Xavier Bailey
jordan peterson wasn't able to bring up any solid ground or easy territory for him in the interview. he could have rebutted with firm psychological sex differences like in the google memo by james damore and in so doing would have forced helen lewis to concede both that marxist, postmodern university lecturers were having a signfiicant negative effect in the real world and weren't simply a few irrelevent loonies like Helen claimed, And it would have likely forced Helen to deny established psychological gender differences and in so doing JP would have been able to successfully label her as a postmodern , feelings-over-facts leftist like he wanted to. instead he tried to make that assertion without finding any basis for it and made himself look like he was making assumptions out of butthurt.
And God her demeanor just got more and more sexy as the interview went on and she knew more and more that she had him in the palm of her hand. she was like a cat playing with a mouse. so intellectually predatory. If you had kids with her they could do and become anything. I'd love to just take her one night and inseminate her and have her and her husband raise my child.
Kayden Green
No dude you just suck. Brit trash.
Adam Moore
what difference does how it was acknowledged make? if you don't give women any education except how to look after a home then naturally most of them are going to think that's what women are capable of.
Kevin Powell
have you even watched the interview? It sounds like you haven't. Don't get butthurt with me , my kid. I wanted JP to win and am generally against feminism but unlike you I have a strong sense of intellectual honesty and you can't deny that Helen wiped the floor with him.
Jayden Gray
No one was given anything, this notion that women should have been given is outlandish.
Elijah Gomez
I already said the future is female, what more do you want?
Fuck off.
Isaiah Diaz
>Anglo >Wants to have sex with 5/10 women
Never change
Brody Martinez
Thought that was a photoshop. Mfw its actually legit.
FUCK PETERSON. He's bought and paid for like the rest of em. I'm done with this cunt once and for all.
Austin Allen
the notion that people should be given equal opportunities is outlandish? I guess you aren't much of a jordan peterson supporter after all.
What are you even saying anymore? You admit that women had lower legal and social rights than men until recent human history in significant part due to male collective behaviour but you're claiming that this does not constitute a patriarchy because no one deserves anything? Am I getting that right? You're so desperate not to admit that a patriarchy existed in history that you're going to just give up on morality , the idea that human behaviours should be in certain ways, entirely? how desperate. You're not going to beat intelligent feminists like Helen Lewis like this. You have to do better and be less thick and more intellectually honest. If you're never going to admit when you're wrong then you not anything.
Joshua Smith
Jesus christ go virtue signal somewhere else.
Tyler Lee
>see thread about jordan peterson >start saying that the OP is wrong without even watching the video the OP is talking about >start sulking and acting butthurt when you get told to actually watch the video instead of speaking from ignorance
shape up bucko.
Michael Thompson
this is getting depressing. are you this incapable of standing up for and justifying your view points? Any slight questioning and you crumple? How the fuck are you ever going to achieve anything of persuade anyone of anything. I'm not a feminist. I've posted on Jow Forums for hours almost every day for about 7 years. I'm on your side. I want you to be BETTER. If you're this fucking weak, feeble and stupid then you aren't fit to argue for our points of view anywhere. You're too weak. You're going to get torn apart and exposed as someone who believes some things are true but has no idea why he believes they are true.
Grayson Miller
>ancap never change
Ryder Harris
>watching two pseudo intellectuals argue for 2 hours so you can feel smart by living vicariously
peak cringe
Asher Edwards
>i want you to be BETTER fuck off tyrant. let people succeed, fail, be losers, be winners, be fat, unhealthy, be strong, be weak, dumb, smart. >BETTER this god complex
Tyler Allen
>our guy Jordan Peterson
This glorified carpet salesman is as much /ourguy/ as Alex Jones is. Meaning only to a very fringe element consisting solely of brainlets.
Wyatt Lopez
>I'm afraid our guy Jordan Peterson fuck off bitch. he's your guy. a jew can only serve jewish interests. anybody who fell the /ourguy/ petersons is just a fucking retard.
Adam Peterson
But but but why don't you care about women?
They need to be given things!
Jordan Martinez
Hi Helen, I know your narcisstic personality disorder makes you think you are something special(maybe even high iq), but I'm afraid you are incapable of independent thought.you are just parroting popular stances from media and your circle of mediocre friends pretending to be intellectuals while being pushed to spotlight by sociaptahic people in charge.you are pathetic and unfuckable.
Caleb Bailey
10 minutes in, does he start getting wrecked soon? So far he's turned aside parry after parry from this woman. And calmly too. minus that grating stridency he often displays.
Matthew Edwards
he served our interests by pushing back against leftism.
this purity spiral where we have to be hostile to everyone who doesn't share than more than 98% of the same views we do is totally counter-productive and ineffectual. IT promotes constant infighting among the right instead of creating an effective coalition that can win back ground in the culture war against the left.
When a new movement gets started the first thing the establishment tries to do is to get the movement to tear itself apart with infighting and purity spirals.
Obviously JP isn't 100% are guy but he's more our guy than not our guy.
Nathan Bennett
peterson looks sad and broken whatever you think of him, he had a fire and passion that made him interesting to listen to now he looks even more depressed, maybe he should go back to antidepressants
Chase Murphy
he definitely does by 12 minutes but already within the first 10 minutes you can tell it isn't going that well for him. he's interrupting her far more than she's interrupting him which isn't very strong. And he's being far more belligerent and disrespectful than he was towards cathy newman even though the woman interviewing him this time is not straw-manning him at all. . In fact it seems like he is being more disrespectful to her than he was to cathy newman precisely because she is being decent and courteous in the argument.
Noah Torres
>"British GQ is the premier channel for men’s style, lifestyle and entertainment." >"As part of our 30th-anniversary dissection of masculinity" >interviewer is a woman
imagine being this cucked
Ayden Collins
>but he's more our guy than not our guy.
no he isn't. not by any stretch of the imagination. what the hell gave you that idea?
Jace Phillips
>peterson looks sad and broken
Anything actually paying attention feels the same way.
Isaiah Diaz
this
Aiden Howard
if you are not a jew, you're not in the club. You are a useful idiot. When you're done being useful, you're just and idiot.
Evan Morgan
because the greatest threat to our society's well being is the cultural control of the left. feminism, cultural marxism, diversity,feelings over facts , sellf-hatred of western society and white guilt.
the only way that he isn't our guy is that he doesn't believe in explicit ethnic tribalism but his ideas would lead to a soft ethno-state in outcome , which is the natural state of any country. Take away marxist self-hate and pro-immigration and you have every normal country on earth which is de-facto ethno-state even though most of them don't explicitly denote that in their law.
