>in middle school, we had a unit on Apartheid in South Africa
>not a peep about Rhodesia, which was essentially the same as Apartheid SA
Why is this?
In middle school, we had a unit on Apartheid in South Africa
Zachary Hernandez
Landon Sanders
If apartheid was bad for blacks why did millions of blacks risks their lives to immigrate INTO apartheid south africa
Camden Diaz
>which was essentially the same as Apartheid SA
Rhodesia did not have apartheid
Logan Rogers
Because they would have to admit that Rhodesia was a developed nation that was utterly destroyed once the ghouls took over.
Jaxon Nguyen
But it was a majority-black country with a white minority in power.
Missing the point. Why is Mandela a saint to liberals, while Mugabe is dropped down the memory hole?
Lucas Scott
Mandela was a retarded nigger who thought that a rainbow nation would work
Mugabe was a retarded nigger who thought that blacks didn't need whites to maintain civilization and their standard of living
James King
Ex-Zimbabwean here. I grew up south of Mutare in Manicaland where there were only about 25 white families left but I went to high school in America.
the only time we ever talked about Rhodesia was in my AP Euro class in senior year, purely because I was close with my teacher and he wanted to make a point about the situation in Zimbabwe and how it got to that point.
Also
>Rhodesia, which was essentially the same as Apartheid SA
Not even close.
>there was no official segregation in Rhodesia, save for reserved seats in government
>The voting laws did not limit voting by race, rather the platform was "One taxpayer, one vote," regardless of race. Ironically, the vast majority of blacks didn't pay taxes and therefore couldn't vote.
>The conflict during UDI was NOT seen as a black vs. white conflict within Rhodesia, rather a conflict of western, christian, capitalist values against an external threat funded by the golems of international marxism.
So there's a lot to the situation that most Americans don't understand but at no fault of their own.
Also there's the fact that Kissinger made Smith sign, as he called it, Rhodesia's Death Warrant.
Joshua Cook
Also you NEED to understand the dichotomy of the Matablele vs the Mashona in Zimbabwe.
In 1975:
>Whites made up about 9-10% of the population
>Matabeles, black zulus living in southern and western rhodesia, made up about 20%
>The Mashona, the ethnic group from which Mugabe, Mnangagwa, and the bulk of ZANU-PF(zimbabwe's ruling party) made up the remaining 70% of the population
The Matabele and White populations generally worked together during the colonial and UDI periods, and thus were significantly discriminated against following independence. That's why in 1980 Manicaland and Mashonaland went HEAVILY for Muzorewa in the independence election. The Mashona, to this day, seriously discriminate against anyone of any race who isn't shona or doesnt speak shona. It's still a huge problem in Zimbabwe today and that's why most of Matabeleland votes so heavily for MDC, the only real opposition party with any power.
Nathan Johnson
how long did they spend on the most successful apartheid state on earth ?
Aaron Davis
Because the fact that the country collapsed after the niggers were given the right to vote is against the narrative.
How's it going achmed?
Owen Sanchez
Easton Brooks
Weren't the Norks and ChiComs involved as well?
Nathan Sanders
Thank you for the insight Rhodie user, wasn't mozambican FRELIMO the principle force behind the terrorist movement?
Elijah Harris
>the most successful apartheid state on earth ?
Way too long desu. Also thanks for the tanks and supplies during the war
Joshua Wilson
Rhodesia allowed blacks to vote if they were middle class. It was not a racial society, it was a class society in which whites made up the bulk of the middle class and thus the majority of voters because most blacks were rural retards.
Justin Scott
First user is correct - The USSR armed ZAPU and the chinks armed ZPIRA. After independence, the 8th brigade(Mugabe's """""special forces""""") went to train in North Korea before the Gukhurahundi, where the military basically just went into Matabele villages and killed everyone who didn't vote for ZANU.
FRELIMO was a soviet front as well, but they gave refuge during the war.
Lucas White
Isaac Ward
Apartheid was actually correct. Look at the fucking state of Johannesburg.
Hunter Harris
>most blacks were rural retards.
This is an understatement. Most blacks during UDI simply didn't want anything to do with the Rhodesian state and only came into contact with us when the war reached them. Even then, they were given so much protection from that most remained indifferent, despite a lot of naive rural natives joining the terrs.
Christopher Clark
I see, do you still visit?
Christopher Jackson
The last time I was back was in july to vote, and every few years before that we'll go to Harare to check in on friends or family still in-country.
Eastern Zimbabwe and the Mutare area are still beautiful depsite the ruinous state of the infrastructure. And when we went in July the Jacarandas Zimbabwe is known for were just getting ready to bloom, so it was extra beautiful.
Jose Price
That last picture is Mutare(called Umtali during UDI, one of the cities with the highest per capita concentration of settlers) during the spring, which is in july and august down there).
In Harare and Bulawayo there are whole streets lined with Jacarandas and when they bloom it's really quite nice. One of the few things the government actually still takes care of.
Andrew Green
That's beautiful, how is the situation there for the white population today?
Thomas Morris
because there was a great propaganda movie made about South African apartheid that was approved for educational viewing called "the power of one"
Leo Scott
fuck off im no terrorist
Luke Ortiz
dont worry senpai when bibi starts colonizing africa we'll restore our african allies to their former glory .
Jordan Jones
At last census there are about 30,000 left in the country, mainly concentrated in the cities with a few farms left here and there. That number was from 2010 though, and I fear most of the whites still in zim are very old and frail. The middle class has dried up and anyone with any kind of education has left for South Africa or the west.
Chase Fisher
I'll be waiting with my FAL
Charles Price
>One taxpayer, one vote
Literally only way that dem*cracy could work.
Matthew Wood
seems to me the entire area requires new, better helicopter services .
Blake James
Checked
DEUS VULT
Parker Taylor
Rural natives didn't join willingly. Mugabe's ZANU were taught by the norks who new very well about how to roll into a rural farming village, harass the people and say they will be shot unless the young men join the terrorists and the women can't talk to the whities or else they'll be called informants and tortured
t. uncle was in the 5RR and Selous Scouts
Zachary Cox
Sounds like a plan, we'll enlist the Rwandans to aid the invasion as well. Unironically one of the few african groups aside from the Matabele that I trust.
James Hill
>Rural natives didn't join willingly.
Should have made that more clear - most terrs were forced at gunpoint to join up.
Also should make the point that 80% of the Security forces were natives, most of which were Matabele.
Brayden Ross
Maybe ask your teacher why they have not discussed it...also it might be a good opprountity to bring up the current genocidal conditions that exist in South Africa.
Ryder Reyes
>create livable place in Africa
>niggers ruin it
Like pottery.
Camden Diaz
Because Rhodesia destroys their narrative
Oliver Diaz
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Robert Hill
is Mashonaland full of Mashona or Matabeles? kinda confusing/counter-intuitive there. and I never quite understood why Muzorewa didn't stay in power. from what I recall, the whites and most of the blacks liked him. but Mugabe wanted power and the Eteranal Anglo wanted to utterly destroy Zimbabwe Rhodesia, so they forced them to have a second election where ZANU killed blacks that didn't support them...right? or did I get that wrong? wtf is wrong with the British.
also, Zulus in South Africa support white rule there as well. I don't think we should import them or anything, but I respect them as a fierce warrior people in their homeland.
Adrian Turner
Because zimbabwe failed.
Connor Johnson
The Zulu support white man in SA because they have more than 2 brain cells
Colton Smith
>wtf is wrong with the British
Their politicians are controlled by the jews
Carter Smith
Paul Kagame is a genius. easily the best state/military leader in Africa. out of all of the countries to look out for in Africa, check out Rwanda. they actually ranked above Russia in this year's Ease of Doing Business Index (but solely because they're #2 and #3 in registered property and getting credit). Uganda is friendly too, but kind of retarded.
Kevin Thomas
Matabeles only make up about 15% of the population now. Their ancestral homeland is the southwest of the country, which is where their provinces are.
Manicaland has a large minority of Matabeles but still majority Shona.
Chase Scott
Overlay that on election results and you'll see the most heavily matabele districts vote MDC. The popular vote for president is a lot closer than the assembly vote tallies would allow you to believe though
Oliver Robinson
so when the West falls (not collapses, just loses the power to control the world) will the Boers and Anglos return to unite with the Matabeles and Zulus to purge Zimbabwe and South Africa of the hostile ethnic groups?
Mason Bennett
Just to clarify you're one of the whites, right? Man, if my home was taken by a bunch of niggers I'd be furious.
Carson Hill
Yes.
>when the west falls
I don't think you guys realize how terrible the situation is over there. Zimbabwe is dead last in just about every kind of good stat, there is no hope of resurrection.
Jack Foster
kek, mountain jews asking the real questions here
Ryan Miller
is it true that "once your a Rhodesian, no other land will do"?
Austin Thomas
Thanks for posting, user. There's nothing like first-hand info.
Lake Kariba and the Zambezi enchanted me, by the way.
Landon Reyes
wow, it really looks great, shame about the country though
Levi Peterson
in my opinion, white people should usually stay out of Africa, we're suited for colder climates, but wow fuck ZANU and the ANC.
Lincoln Miller
I believe that that south, particularly the cape and all of Rhodesia (north and south) is rightful white land, but at this point I think its best we leave it, turtle up, then come back, a soft reconquista if you will.
Asher Hall
It wasn't exactly the same.
The appartheid was more "strict" and South Africa was much richer.
Zachary Parker
The board of education didn't want you to learn about the white genocide commited by Mugabe's clique.
Same reason why they don't teach you about Muslim expansion into europe.
Hunter Thompson
>no other land will do
While I'll certainly never get over leaving Zimbabwe, at this point I'll probably never live there again. I never knew the good times though.
Landon Rogers
im sorry my government where cucks, I really am.
Joshua Ross
Mandela was really a puppet for the ANC. His election was on the outside suppose to be meaningful, but realistically someone who spent 30 years in Solitary confinement will be so mentally damaged that they would not be able to run a country. Durring Mandela's presidentcy he did very little, his cabinet (who was as racist as the people who wished to keep aparthied) did most things for him.
Luke Miller
>the white genocide commited by Mugabe's clique.
Very few whites were actually killed - most of us left on our own terms though we'd have rather stayed.
Gukurahundi however definitely DID happen and tens of thousands of Matabeles were killed by the government.
James Richardson
Nice image, thanks for a good read.
Jonathan Richardson
>let me tell you about my heritage
you're a mutt stop your lame LARPing
Angel Thomas
>memeflaggots
Grayson Diaz
Holly shit, Rhodie!
We have them in Lisbon too! Yeah, they're great and beautiful. Sorry for falling first in Africa, though...
It was the commies...
Carson Walker
I remember when I read Fireforce, Chris mentioned a place that looked like the Scottish highlands that he went on holiday to, this must have been what he was talking about, beautiful
Michael Thomas
Thanks for the correction, its been good to read your posts.
Evan Lee
That would be Manicaland.
Don't let the elevation fool you though - it's still ridiculously hot in the summer.
Christopher Smith
See: Africa South of RDC is temperate enough. Sure, there will be days with plenty of rain and plenty of heat, but it is definetely temperate enough for whites. Especially around the Cape which is 100% Mediterranean climate, Southern Europe style, only a little drier and with a little more heat.
Anyway, even in RDC, I suppose the highlands of Katanga would be a good place for white people as well... as in the environment.
It's a shame, really.
Also: The black population in Austral Africa has exploded. Back in the 60s the black population was at the maximum of 20% of what they are now, probably even less than that.
There are huge areas that were almost completely devoid of human habitation.
The Portuguese were the first to actually settle and build towns in Angola for when they arrived in the XV century, the population was entirely nomadic.
Mason Sanchez
I get this feeling of nostalgia when looking at photos or reading about Rhodesia even though I was born 17 years after it ended.
Ryder Sullivan
What a time it was.
Matthew Edwards
if the poem white mans burden was writen about africans instead of indians, i bet alot of money that it would be less sympathetic to the natives. but i guess the real tradegy is that the west refuses to learn from the tradegy itself
Jayden Wilson
Connor Wright
Imagine showing people this picture and they would think it's the United States or Europe. I can imagine the look on their faces