Is /pol alt-right?

no they just hate non whites

I know what identity politics is, and its not intrinsically bad. Groups tend to stick together and favour eachother, dismissing identity because "muh individualism" is retarded

so thats a no then

identity politics means policy based on immutable characteristics like sex and race. and if youre for that youre a literal caveman

>identifiying
either you're white or you're not, your self proclaimed identity is meaningless you tranny

Imagine being this big of a retard.

>identity politics means policy based on immutable characteristics like sex and race.
Yes, and there's nothing wrong with this. Race is an important factor and Whites should be protected.

identity politics are a symptom of cancer
they arent needed in an ethnostate

yeah, thats gonna be a yikes from me

I think a strong ethnic identity would be required in an ethnostate to stop it cucking.
Okay, why is white identity politics bad?

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>Okay, why is white identity politics bad?
all identity politics is bad period

Okay, why?

because it leads to purity spirals

>/pol
You have to go back

Not neccesarily, most people have an agreed definition of "white" and its been roughly the same for about 200 years.

what an asinine question, everything the mainstream left and sjws stand for is identity politics which you must know. i suspect you are one of those NPCs with absolutely no principles and operate on the mindset of "its okay when we do it"

>Bernie Sanders is a center moderate
>Take me cereal gaiz!

Lmao, you're dodging the question.
Why is having people wanting to advocate for their own racial interests bad?
>i suspect you are one of those NPCs with absolutely no principles and operate on the mindset of "its okay when we do it"
I'm okay if whites and non-whites are doing it in their own nation, yeah.

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The only faggots that would adopt the "alt-right" moniker are too chicken shit to openly state what they actually are: neo nazis. They hate anyone who isn't pure bread white, who isn't committed to protecting said pure bread whites, they have a seething hatred for muslims and especially jews and they think that a womans place is at home pumping out kids, raising them sharing their same values and keeping the house in order while knowing when to shut the fuck up - hint: that is whenever her husband speaks.

>put your own ideology in the middle
>"yep looks like this chart says i'm a centrist"

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you want different laws for different identities. which is exactly what the sjws want but you dont approve because youre not dictating the terms. again you have absolutely no principles and are operating on the mindset of "its okay when we do it". subhuman trash

no

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>you want different laws for different identities.
You're dodging the question again for a dumb horse-shoe "both sides r da same" meme. Why is it bad? What is it about promoting Whites in a White Nation is bad?

What part of my post is wrong?

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Bread... You fucking idiot, btw this board is 18+

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>dumb horse-shoe "both sides r da same" meme
there are more than 2 sides and a middle in politics you retard. holy shit just how dumb are you

The definition of "white" hasn't been solid for that long.

Really? A spelling error is what you take issue with? That must mean you agree with everything else.

I know, thats what I'm saying. I'm saying you're simplifying political ideologies into "the alt right are like da SJWs because they see Race"

Also again, you're dodging the question. Why is it bad?

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No Democrat would be in the blue. Has no one taken the fucking quiz? I’m the most right-wing person I know and I’m in the blue but still close to the center

>you're simplifying political ideologies into "the alt right are like da SJWs because they see Race"
both alt-right and sjws want policy based on identity. the only thing they disagree with is which group is oppressed, meaning which group deserves special treatment. tell me again how they are not exactly the same please

>/pol
You have to go back.

Bernie is an admitted socialist, so he’s at the very least 50% into the economic left axis.

Yes it has, learn your own history. The 1790 Naturalization Act limited citizenship to "immigrants who were free White persons of good character." and the definition of White is pretty much unchanged

The definition of "white" wasn't even the same in 1940. Hispanics were legally considered white until a few decades ago.

bernie doesnt understand what socialism means as most americans, either D or R, dont. hes a social democrat

>He dodged the question AGAIN
Why are you so scared of answering user? I'll answer your question after.

because it goes against the most important western value, individuality

now go ahead and answer

Fuck off newfag

This.

left libertarian isn't real

>Is /pol alt-right?
Jow Forums is alright.
Jow Forums is people of love.
Jow Forums is and forever will be satire on advanced mode.

i hope you're pretending to be retarded

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>Hispanics were legally considered white until a few decades ago.
Most Hispanics with majority Spanish and Portugese admixture ARE white. They're still recognised as Hispanic Whites today, they're just seprate from Northern and Western Europeans

>Not a burger
>Talking about 'white'
Fuck off Achmed

>democrats are nadsees
I didn't know bernouts liked Dinesh D'Sousa

I meant that Hispanics in the USA were considered white by default, even if they were Mexicans with mestizo blood.

>Muh SJW
All politics are identity politics. You will advocated in the interest of a group, however define.

im not sure if youre pretending to be retarded but advocating for the interests of citizens over foreigners is by definition not identity politics

>because it goes against the most important western value, individuality
Non-whites are inherently collectivist. Non-whites vote for anti-individualist parties in literally all White nations. Individualism is the white man's ideology, its why the Libertarian party is 90% white.

>now go ahead and answer
The reason why the Alt Right are different is because recognising and preferring the in-group (Your race) is natural. People, even unconsciously, prefer the in-group to the put-group. The Ess Jay Double Yous want to condition the idea of the melting pot and eradicate the idea of Whites having their own space, while the Alt Right recognise that race is real, and an important thing

It is national identity. If you want to preserve your western values of individuality, you will advocated in favor of keeping western as a majority in their own country.

The person who coined the term libertarian was a leftist

Only according to the census designation. By that definition, Arabs and North Africans are considered white today. We both know that's only true on census forms.

>Non-whites are inherently collectivist.
im amazed at your lack of brain activity, you think non-whites are inherently collectivist because you are collectivist and view all non-whites as the same. thats some circular logic if ive ever seen it holy shit :DD
>the Alt Right recognise that race is real, and an important thing
and therefore advocates for different policies based on race. so the alt-right is against western values, thanks for clarifying what i already knew
nationality is not an immutable characteristic. you can become a citizen of most nations by doing the required work. try again

Obviously, they weren't doing DNA tests back then. You can very clearly tell a person who is majority Iberian versus a Mestizo. Look at Brazil, for example. You can clearly tell the whites and non-whites apart.

It sure is. You just have to consider the fact that they view economic structures as another type of ruling system in the form of nepotistic oligarchies.

Care to tell me how I'm wrong?

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Not all hispanics are mestizos.

are the jews white?

if Jow Forums was alt-right, would they have meme flags? Jow Forums is for all ideologies and political discourse

We stole “libertarian” because leftists stole “liberal.”

>im amazed at your lack of brain activity, you think non-whites are inherently collectivist
No, I think it because its statistically evident. ALL Black Americans vote Democrat despite their political views. Blacks who think the government should be smaller and think that the government does too much to help blacks STILL vote Democrat.
While majority of Whites vote Republican, and 90% of the Libertarian party is White.
>and therefore advocates for different policies based on race.
Based off nature, yes.
>so the alt-right is against western values, thanks for clarifying what i already knew
The only way to preserve individualism is to keep the State white.

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stormfags don't like this

Alt-right

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You becoming a legal citizen of japan does not make you a japanese. A nation is formed by a common heritage, tradition, blood and culture, not a legal document. Stop trying.

No, Jews are a seperate non-European ethnic group that don't identify as white.

Fpbp

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>The only way to preserve individualism is to keep the State white.

this only validates the identitarian game, stop playing their game
at the same time if they're going to FORCE us to play we're not going to play to lose

it's a catch 22, im not sure there is any way out anytime soon

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>stop playing their game
There is nothing wrong with identitarian, you can have a democratic capitalist society based on individualism while having a white identity. The autistic Libertarian "identiarianism is bad bcuz its collectivist" is dumb. The USA and Britian were effectively Ethnostates and still had democratic individualist principles

KeK
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They're European but identify as a subsect
and that's just one example of the loose ends of the idea of a "white" identity
that's why I stick to population terms, like Northwestern European, Southern European, and Eastern European (jews sit between eastern and southern European)

identity politics will lead to purity spirals

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>pol is one person

>Democrats
>right
You fucked up

>stop playing their game
Every group plays this game. Blacks, arabs, jews, every identifiable groups puts their own interest above others. Individualist will always lose, your strategy is to convince everyone else to behave like you, when they will just keep advocating in their own behave.
You asking if a a semitic people from Judea are Europeans? No.

I call myself alt-right and I just take it to mean I'm not a republican. But maybe I should just choose repub or libertarian if it means not having to associate with retarded fucking neo-nazis lol.

>They're Europea
They're literally not.
cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(10)00246-6
digitalcommons.wayne.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1040&context=humbiol_preprints

They have a shared genetic history with Middle-Easterners, and even the USA declared them to be a seperate distinct race.

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Criticisms?

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/leftypol/ and /leftpol/ are much more varied, and take up basically all of the left compass from AnComs to Tankies

Unless you believe in the superiority of the white race and have at least a moderate obsession with your (white) ancestors and, in turn, have a strong distrust or hate for anyone slightly browner than you, you are not alt right.

I dont spend much time there, they all just seemed extremely hard core commie to me.

>UN flag

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Bernie's a straight up commie, OP. Don't be a dumbass. He'd gulag you for not sharing a kitkat.

>I call myself alt-right
don't it's a broken co-opted term at this point (stormfags ruin everything)

just call yourself a classic liberal

>resorting to memes
point out where i'm wrong or shut the fuck up

Yeah, there was a feud a while ago where Tankies (Authoritarian socialists) started banning AnComs who criticised North Korea because they were promoting "western imperialism". It's a fun shit-show to watch. Also "minarchists" would be much lower, just above AnCaps.

Why so hostile, fren?

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You see how Ashkenazi, the jewish ethnic group with most european admixture is still distant from europeans.

jews are known to have bad tempers and a general inability to control their emotions.