Theistic Abrahamism: evil comes from Satan.
Atheistic Abrahamism: evil comes from neonazis and White supremacists.
Aryan Philosophy: "Where, then, does evil come from? asked the false priests. All the evil comes from you, and from the stupidity of the people who let themselves be deceived by you."
Notice the difference between the three?
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Evil does not exist.
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False.
Genocide is a good thing.
Roaches are people too!
it does tho
gud - muh dick
bad - yer dick
everything other then heinlenianism is gay
Christians don't believe evil strictly or even mostly comes from Satan and"aryan philisophy" is just some bullshit you made up.
Without the Bible there is no morality. What makes something more evil than something else in your world view? Individual choice. Your system cannot be used to create successful civilizations, and never has been.
Absolutely unbiblical, you disgusting kike.
>I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
why the fuck am i replying to this stupid shit
Based
Kike detected
>Without the (((Bible))) there is no morality
ewwwww
Not an argument
Fuck off. Like a kike can tell the difference between good and evil.
The myth of vampires being unable to see themselves in a mirror is a metaphor for you evil fucks being unable to see your own evil; unable to self-reflect.
Not a counter arguement
>The myth of vampires being unable to see themselves in a mirror is a metaphor for you evil fucks being unable to see your own evil; unable to self-reflect.
hmmm.
Interesting. Never thought about that
as much as I hate to admit it this is the logical conclusion of a world without systemic objective morality.
There's a reason "God is dead" was a lamentation and not a song of praise. Most people can't handle the truth.
Not a counter argument to the lack of a counter argument to the lack of an argument
Also consider the following:
Elizabeth (((Bathory))) was a jew
You can escape a vampire by dropping a coin on the ground
Jews have incredibly high rates of Factor XI diseases such as porphyria which can and have been historically treated by drinking blood
Jews have been caught drinking children's blood so much they've had to invent a term to discredit it: "blood-libel".
There have been more than a dozen child saints who were canonized for meeting their end at the hands of blood drinking kikes
A map of the chronology of jewish expulsions across eastern europe overlayed a map of the chronology of the arising of vampire mythology in the same region are functionally identical
The list really does go on.
DUMP ALL OF IT
fuck of commie
Israel spends like 3x as much on blood as any war-torn nation does
Here's a great doc on jews drinking white children's blood
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Here's a kikesse talking about the practice continuing to this day. Note the similarity to pizzagate.
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Get it while it's hot; jews take these down all the time
I agree with you, mostly, but the "without bible no morality" is dumb, morality is just a set of codes people live by in order to have a functional society, and I don't think you honestly mean that before the modern Bible was officially canonized there were no morals, because that would imply there were no morals during the days of Jesus, and if there were no morals then there would be no laws, and thus no civilization. A good moral code is definitely something the world needs right now, all the time but its fairly recently that we've gotten completely lax (although thats cyclical, kinda) and the Bible is not the be all end all of morality. Other, equally old religious moralities end up with much the same teachings, IMO they're coming from the same source anyways. The truth of just what the hell is going on, why we're here and what the hell we're supposed to be doing is much greater than a single compilation of what amounts to Jewish history, a couple prophets, and essays to early churches. Doesn't mean it isn't useful, even necessary, just that its a piece and not the puzzle itself.
Aryan Philosophy: letting women tell you how to live
I think I’ll pass
modern jews came out of pharisees who were a satanic sect and as Jesus said "children of devil" who as he said "is a master of lies as there is no truth in him"
jews(pharisees) were enemies of Christ and his followers, who wrote the new testament.
pharisees also didn't have anything to do with people who wrote old testament as those were hebrews and pharisees came from babylon after babylonian exile.
old testament hebrews were calling each other son of abraham, son of david etc. pharisees don't do that anymore and they are based on matriarchy as woman is the one who gets tempted more easily by devil.
that's also why they wrote "babylonian talmud". they don't give a shit about bible
Wrong, troll. That's #2 in which evil = sexiests.
Philosophy leads to sexism because that is what nature demands for a balanced society.
I agree that almost all religions hold a seed of truth within them; though I disagree fundamentally with your position. When I mention the bible, I specifically am speaking about it's news of Jesus. I think Jesus is clearly the son of God; the most compelling evidence of this being contained in the bible. Many nations before Christianity and by extension Judaism had moral law, but none that went so far as Jesus. Jesus fulfilled the moral laws that came before them; he gave us a system which we might live our lives by, and, most importantly, said he was the Son of God. I believe Aquinas said each man has an essence of God written upon him; and though I do not believe in Genesis literally, I do think God put that in us around the time we became conscious beings.
tl:dr; basic morality is there, but nothing that goes so far as Jesus' teachings
will kikes larping as pagans ever stop posting?
Wasn't there something about Solomon being convinced by the resident thot Bathsheba to bring foreign female gods into the temple, thus bringing its destruction? I don't know if Ishtar-Inanna was still around, but there was certainly things like it, the one with mostly priestesses, temple whores, and holy crossdressing men.
FPBP.
Oy Vey, suck dick to get magic powers goy.
This is why the female gender needs to be replaced.
>Theistic Abrahamism: evil comes from Satan.
False. Evil comes from tree sources: Ourselves (because we are sinners); Nature itself (because nature got corrupted when Adam disobeyed God); and Satan.
Morality doesn't come from the Bible itself, but from natural intrinsical inclinations in the human nature, which was designed by God. The Bible is but a guide because our biological inclinations aren't enough to live wisely and to find God.
You're the type of person to believe that the God of the bible is the god of the muslims and is the god of the "jews" because you've read/studied none of these and just simply talk shit.
When you don't believe the source of truth there is essentially no truth in you.
>I do not believe in Genesis literally.
Its a literal story of how things were created. The times the bible paints a picture or uses a metaphor are easily distinguishable and recognizable.
You can't claim to believe Jesus but also deny that He had created the world as the bible describes it.
Its like saying that you do but you actually don't.
Which is it?
Cringe.
You need to go back
The best representation of the morality God gave us would be the conscience; the thing in the back of our mind that knows what we're doing could be wrong. I think the Bible is important to bring news of Christ, but more importantly to but the conscience into text, so it's not so up to individual feelings about one thing or another.
It's an allegory for the fall of man. I do not believe the earth is 6000 years old; yet I believe Jesus was God and I try to follow his teachings.
"Know ye not that ye art gods", or similar. There's certainly a lot encoded into the Bible that its writers probably didn't know about; New Jerusalem the cube-city in Revelations has something like each wall being the median distance from the earth to the sun tall/wide with a circle in the middle thats the circumference of the earth (when converted from the units used) . Jesus being divine and THE true messiah wouldn't surprise me, and even if, originally, he wasn't, belief has immense amounts of power and time isn't as linear as we think, so it evens out to where he was again, if that makes any sense. I tend to lean towards the idea since time, in our sense, doesn't exist on the other side, that all cultures are inherently talking to and expressing aspects of the same basic things (a bit like the idea of forms), including cultural mores, since marriage is universal for functional societies, as are laws against murder and the like. But aye, his teachings echo (or are echoed by, or will be echoed, t i m e) the most basic "do unto others" rule along with spirituality and intolerance for evil, I'm just disillusioned with the modern church mostly, not the guy himself. Our rites are hollow, we expect healing and prosperity for ourselves but give nothing in return. That, and it seems kinda arrogant to assume that this time we got it right when relatively 2,000 years ago is barely any time at all, but then again time is fucking weird. Grazi for having an actual response that isnt screeching
Theistic Abrahamism: you inherited sin from Adam and Eve so you are forever a slave to a foreign god.
Atheistic Abrahamism: you are racist because you are White, so check your privilege and be slaves to POC.
Aryan Philosophy: "Eva means that sentiment which is implanted in the breast of every man in order that he
may know what is right and what is wrong, and by which he is able to judge his own deeds and those of others;" You are free by birthright.
Notice the difference between the three?
I struggle with the actions of many church members and the community as a whole; but I think we can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I just read "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis, I highly recommend it; it's inspired me to go, I'm just not sure which denomination. For now I'm think Catholicism, but again it's up in the air.
>Theistic Abrahamism: evil comes from Satan.
Only retard-tier denominations think this.
>Marxism is atheistic Abrahamism
Wrong, plus, fascism/natsoc came out of Marxism, and while it dies reject many aspects of Marxism, that would still make "Aryan" philosophy ultimately Abrahamic, if Marxism is itself Abrahamic.
>Nature itself (because nature got corrupted when Adam disobeyed God)
That's not true. Our relationship with the physical world was degraded, not the physical world itself. Nature is amoral.
Aryan Philosophy comes from the Aryans not the third Reich.
>modern jews came out of pharisees who were a satanic sect
No
Satan means "advesary" and the bible never translated it. modern Jews came out of Christian Rome, larping as chosen bible characters. Pharisees were cool with Rome and Jesus was a Zionist
>Aryan Philosophy comes from the Aryans not the third Reich.
Pathetic
I'll look into that; Born baptist, always had an interest in the paranormal and occult, tipped my fedora throughout highschool but upon actually going down the rabbit hole realized i ended up exactly where i started, but with reincarnation, more determinism, and a bit of animism thrown in, not sure what the hell that would make me. Honestly the focus on denomination and how specific rituals should be done is half the problem, i get things are open to interpretation but this is the deep south, theres all sorts of churches everywhere but its almost always a baptist association or methodist association or w/e, not just " a fellowship of christians doing things together". I'm confident it'll cycle back around in time, but it ain't gonna be pretty. Nobody likes to admit they might be wrong, especially not folks completely convinced they're right.
>There have been more than a dozen child saints who were canonized for meeting their end at the hands of blood drinking kikes
>A map of the chronology of jewish expulsions across eastern europe overlayed a map of the chronology of the arising of vampire mythology in the same region are functionally identical
Ahhhhhhhh!
Werewolves vs Neanderkikes
No what I pathetic is that you believe in a perverted view of the world told to you by the enemies of man.
It actually does, except to sane Aryans whose minds aren't possessed by concepts like "objectivity," evil is merely anything that is more powerful than another thing — i.e., it is not condemned. It is in fact the goal of it all to become more evil than the other.
>by the enemies of man.
You mean Hollywood?
>Notice the difference between the three?
yes
Who is Eva?
The Aryans were a group of Proto-Indo-Europeans that travelled to what is now Iran, conquered it, and basically created the Iranian nation.
>objectivity is bad
Wew
>evil is merely anything that is more powerful than another thing
That's retarded, especially when you go on to say it's not bad. You're literally just redefining the word as something unrelated to its actual meaning.
Eva isnt a person it is a teaching that we are born to decide what is true and false, what is good and bad. We are born free. That teaching dates back to the neolithic age where our ancestors came into being.
Predates the bible by thousands of years.
>The Aryans were a group of Proto-Indo-Europeans
Doesn't know what Aryan means
Doesn't know what proto means
Thinks he's educating us by copying his opinions that everyone who has no historical knowledge says, but graduated high school.
Why dont you just fucking say was Eva is from. God damn it!
No, Aryans are a race not a false concept of language.
Genetics don't lie people do.
Objectivity is DUMB. You have to be brainless as all hell to place the source of everything you experience on something that is fundamentally anti-experience. Imagine actually making decisions based on something that can't be grasped at all, in any way. It makes no fucking sense.
>You're literally just redefining the word
You faggots did it first. Before "evil," it was just power, and the world understood it as power. Animals today still understand it as power. Prey doesn't call their predators evil, they simply regard their predators as stronger and consequently dangerous beings.
what will really blow your mind is how very similar Old English and German are
>Without the Bible there is no morality
I wouldn't like to be in your mind
>Doesn't know what Aryan means
That would be you
>Doesn't know what proto means
What?
>Thinks he's educating us by copying his opinions that everyone who has no historical knowledge says, but graduated high school.
>I disagree with them therefore they don't know what they're talking about
What peer reviewed papers have you published retard?
>that picture
Basically just making the claim that the PIE people were the Aryans. In reality, the Aryans were a subset of the Indo-Aryans, who were in turn a subset of the PIE people.
I didn't say language group. The Aryans were a nation.
This is not a way to save Europe; much less a way to create a functioning society. Your world view just sounds like pagan atheists on this website. There's no motivation for people to be moral under your system; much less is there a reason to care about the downfall of western values (which, by the way, having nothing to do with what you're saying here)
Aryan thought has been thoroughly corrupted by Abrahamism. The only way forward racially speaking is to splinter Christianity into folk-religions
Are you retarded? Communism has nothing to do with neo-nazis. In fact fascism is a reaction to communism to being with.
>aryan philosophy
WE WUZ ROMANS AND THE FIRST POOS
SUCK DICK FOR MAGIC
The concepts can be applied to everything.
Both are Enlightenment era Secular Humanist garbage that seeks the perfection of man without God.
>This is not a way to save Europe
But convincing people to stop believing in their senses and completely contradict their own beings is? Yeah nah.
>There's no motivation for people to be moral under your system
There's no motivation for people who are incredibly short-sighted and stupid like you are, maybe. But people are motivated in such a system all the time, every single day, because my system already exists in many parts of the world, and always has. It's simply what all systems based on power are. What the fuck do you think America has been like in areas like New York City, or Los Angeles, for decades?
>Imagine actually making decisions based on something that can't be grasped at all, in any way.
What the fuck are you talking about? Objectivity is about understanding reality so that you can achieve your goals, not about determining the goals themselves.
>You faggots did it first. Before "evil," it was just power, and the world understood it as power.
We're literally talking about two different, unrelated concepts. You're the only one trying to redefine a word.
>Animals today still understand it as power. Prey doesn't call their predators evil, they simply regard their predators as stronger and consequently dangerous beings.
Animals, and the physical world, is amoral. Humans are not purely material, we are not amoral.
King of the Jews!
God is a boogeyman invented by men who thought their erections controlled the sea
>its a conspiracy goy! a conspiracy every nation, religion and culture has conspired together for 3,000 years to perpetuate these cruel false libel charges against the jewish people
Never. Kike autism is unmatched.
>There's no motivation for people to be moral under your system
if you don't want to be brutally punished then you will be moral.
simple as.
Anti-enlightenment. The enlightenment was based in Christianity. It wasn't until around the end of the Elislightenlightenenlightenment era when that thinning really started attaching theism, and when it happened, it was the enlightenment undermining itself.
Yeah a nation that's dates to 4500-5000 BCE not proto-Indo-europeans which dates to 30000 years ago. Our genetics pool didn't exist that far back. Here is the genetic evidence that us Aryans are a young people who evolved in Europe not the steppes. biorxiv.org
That’s the most retarded rebuttal I’ve ever heard
I bring bantz u bring reeeeeeee
Do we read the works of ancient Greeks or ancient nords?
Nords worship Odin, an Azerbaijani warlord who led them to their “promised land” larp much?
Being moral and acting moral are two different things. You cannot force people to be moral, only to act moral.
>Enlightenment was based in Christianity
Wrong. It was a revolt against Christianity by French autists. Then the French Revolution happened and here we are. The Enlightenment's logical conclusion in all of its glory.
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But convincing people to stop believing in their senses and completely contradict their own beings is? Yeah nah.
What are you unironically talking about? You think the highest extent of Aryan virtue is "believing in their senses"? What does that even mean?
>There's no motivation for people who are incredibly short-sighted and stupid like you are, maybe.
It's an incredibly nice idea user, that men can be motivated to be moral based on absolutely nothing at all. There is no morality in your proposed society (which again, has never existed). I don't understand what point you're trying to make with your mentioning of cities. If Los Angeles and New York are your beacons of what we should be striving for, your world view is very sad indeed.
Who determines what is and isnt punished?
>For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him
>And he is before all things, and by him all things consist
>And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Sure you do. Just like those "christians" that cherry pick verses they like and then support homosexuals and the synagogue of Satan.
Thats hypocrisy at its finest. Just like those "christians" that say that the God of the bible is like some other god and we basically worship the same deity as buddhists and muslims etc.
Load of bullshit, you better figure out where you stand because there is one truth.
You better make sure you're believing the real Jesus and not the Jesus you made up in your mind that you would want to exist instead of the real one.
>It's an allegory
Its actually not but i doubt you've done the research and proven it as the bible commands us to do regarding all things.
To me you're making stuff up that isn't biblical and you come forth professing to believe the bible yet you deny it.
>Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Go ahead, be ignorant regarding the truth and believe the things of men rather than the things of God, see how that will work out for you in the end.
>Objectivity is about understanding reality so that you can achieve your goals
It was this at one point, maybe. It's not anymore. Now it's an outdated concept stemming from outdated philosophies, and all it does now is assign the source of value to a non-existent place, confusing the ever-loving-fuck out of people who don't warp reality in such a twisted fashion by their nature, aka everyone who is strong, healthy, smart, and awarded in society today.
>Humans are not purely material, we are not amoral.
Imagine believing this batshit insane crap. "Not purely material," pulled right out of your ass since you can't actually refer to anything immaterial in this world without lying to yourself about it. Also, we ARE amoral.
Treating Christianity as equal to Islam and Judaism is what (((they))) wan't you to do.
Stop using terms "Abrahamism" as a way too relativize the free entirely different morality systems.
Will you fucking idiots just read the damn damn KJV Bible already? It doesn't matter if you want to be a Christian or not, its the most formative work in all of Western civilization. I can tell none of you have read it. You are all ignorant faggots that don't give two shits about the West and act like niggers.
All Abrahamic religions require carrot and stick to enforce, thus making them oppressive and unnatural.
It exists as a concept to describe a tendency in nature. Altruism often exists between different species without any discernible gain for either; evidence of a concept we've come to call "good". Animals are also known to war, intentionally kill offspring, and murder other animals merely for sport, evidence of a concept we've come to call "evil". Mankind merely extrapolates such tendencies to a higher level, thus requiring the need to name them. You can suggest that there isn't a spooky force which created these concepts, but you cannot argue that they don't exist as a natural condition of the planet. Even if religion was never invented, what's "good" and what's "evil" would still occur in the human mind because it's an observable phenomenon and we're capable of observing it and categorizing it.
Continue with your tirade; the only thing you mentioned that applies to me is whether or not Genesis is an allegory, of course I believe He created everything, but I do not literally believe in two individuals, and a literal garden, and a 6000 year old earth. If you indeed are Christian you should not waste your time trying to argue about the details, when all that matters to us is the message of Christ.
>Sure you do. Just like those "christians" that cherry pick verses they like and then support homosexuals and the synagogue of Satan.
I do believe, I don't cherry pick, I dont support homosexuality, I dont worship in the synagogue of Satan.
>say that the God of the bible is like some other god and we basically worship the same deity as buddhists and muslims etc.
Nothing to do with me
>Its actually not but i doubt you've done the research and proven it as the bible commands us to do regarding all things.
I would be happy to look at this research if you could provide me a book or anything to do with it, but I have not seen any evidence to suggest the earth's 6k years old
>Go ahead, be ignorant regarding the truth and believe the things of men rather than the things of God, see how that will work out for you in the end.
You seem full of hatred. We can have a discussion about it with you sperging about random shit like this.
>that underbite
Lovecraft looks like a goblin. Fitting that his descendants all came from a bunch of island savages.
for the layman any distinction between act and being are inconsequential... it's the output that matters in this system.
for example, this guy: is a layman. he has no actual morality and needs a book to tell him how to behave. furthermore, the concept of an innate sense of right and wrong are so totally alien to him that he would commit the worst sins if authority (state, god, society, etc.) were removed from his life.
anyone that claims they need something from outside themselves in order to live a virtuous life is a piece of shit waiting for the first opportunity, the first excuse, to stab you in the back.
>What are you unironically talking about?
Want to know why you're this dense? Because you're possessed by the concept of "objectivity," that's why. This is exactly what it fucking does. It makes you incapable of grasping what people of proper sense are saying. Your understanding of EVERYTHING abstract has been flipped upside down as a result.
You are not an object, except to other people. You have no access to your "objectivity" except by reference, which strictly speaking means not at all.
>There is no morality in your proposed society (which again, has never existed).
Yes there is. Morality is based on power, not warped abstractions that have no bearing on our lives. And fuck off with your "proposed" society shit, what I'm talking about is already the case in parts of the world. My point of mentioning them is to tell you that what I'm saying ALREADY EXISTS.
I didn't say they WERE PIE people from 30000 years ago. I'm well aware the Indo Aryans were a group that dates back to a few thousand years ago.
The enlightenment predates the French revolution by quite a bit, and its thinkers were predominantly British. The people who fucked up the french revolution (the Jacobins, after they kicked out the Girondins) were very much NOT followers of enlightenment thinking.
Fedora is always fedora. Thank God in heaven that they do not breed.
>enlightenment predates the French revolution by quite a bit
No shit
>Want to know why you're this dense? Because you're possessed by the concept of "objectivity," that's why. This is exactly what it fucking does. It makes you incapable of grasping what people of proper sense are saying. Your understanding of EVERYTHING abstract has been flipped upside down as a result.
You are saying nothing at all; you did not answer the question or explain your position in any manner, again, explain what "believing in your senses" means in application. Otherwise, it's meaningless word salad.
>Yes there is. Morality is based on power, not warped abstractions that have no bearing on our lives. And fuck off with your "proposed" society shit, what I'm talking about is already the case in parts of the world. My point of mentioning them is to tell you that what I'm saying ALREADY EXISTS.
Provide me an example of your society. Unless you mentioned Los Angeles because you think it has anything to do with what you're talking about. If that's the case, you ignore Judeo-Christian values' hold and influence on all of our society and it's laws.
