in the golden tractate of hermes trismegistus he talks about a stone which is both animal and vegetable in nature.
although i dont know about stones i know that there is chlorophyll and hemoglobin, the difference is that chlorophyll transports magnesium while hemoglobin transports iron.
for some reason many people use colloidal gold as a supplement, i guess it has health benefits.
i was thinking that one could replace the iron in the heme molecule with gold.
the blood would then become golden instead of red or some other color.
>using a nonreactive metal to bind and release oxygen
Samuel Ortiz
oh right. and there i thought i found it.
Caleb Watson
looks like we got ourselves a regular alchemist here boys
Colton Turner
i dont think i have much time. my health is declining rapidly. i need the stone.
Robert Wilson
Have you tried seeing a doctor?
Noah Campbell
((())) Needs $$$, so if you don't got that google is probably a better alternative.
Henry Walker
i can try but i dont think they that they will be of much help
Daniel Gutierrez
Ok? So... You say you have little time left, and your health is declining rapidly... What is your healthproblem? No doctor diagnosed you in the first place?
John Lewis
The philosophers stone is an allegory. Alchemy on the whole is allegorical and about transformation of the mind from one mental state to another.
Nathan Richardson
i cant eat carbohydrates anymore. might be diabetes. im losing my memories and i cant focus anymore.. i have burning mouth syndrome even though im a guy. it seems like my brain doesnt produce happy chemicals anymore either. i dont enjoy anything.
i should go to the doc but i have my doubts this will work.
Elijah Adams
wrong faggot, the philosopher stone is the real deal. it's ayy lmao magic-technology like the grail was
Bentley Baker
What do you mean you can't eat carbs anymore? Are you strictly eating a Ketogenic diet then at the moment?
Don't see that you're a guy would stop you from having this problem? And ofc your brain is not happy when you are experiencing what you are at the moment.. Seriosly man, go to the doctor, like now. Most doctors offices will have opened now this hour, so just go now
Josiah Hernandez
you can science upto potato
Ryder Gonzalez
well, why not. although i could probably use some more advanced technology and medicine than what we have here. lets see if they can fix it.
Adrian Rivera
Have you tried unicorn's blood? It will keep you alive even if you are inches from death. But it will be half a life, a cursed life.
Landon Nelson
Yeah, I think you need to stop being lazy with your health and stop overestimating medicine and technology. Maybe try a Ketogenic diet with high amounts of green vegetables, working-out and chamomile-tea(warm-brewed for anti-arometase, cold-brew with a drop of vodka for anti-inflamatory properties) daily. Lots and lots of green veggies, like kale and spinach. LOTS, like a whole fucking big huge bowl.
Good luck
Jose Lopez
interesting note: hermes trismegistus is also known as noah from the bible during the flood. repopulated the world, and contained "the 3 keys of knowledge of the world" hence tresmegistus.
but people do take colloidal silver, i do, works great. knew an old guy who baffled his doctor at work, had cancer 17 times. starts taking certain oils and colloidal silver and what not and it "mysteriously goes into spantaneous remission." do your research.
>also, i wouldn't do that user...but as someone who's interested in alchemy, at the end of the day you're going to have to make your own decisions.
The philosopher's stone is both allegory for spiritual growth, and the name of an actual substance. Contrary to popular belief, it does not "make you immortal". It does extend your lifespan by about 15%, however it makes you infertile as it impedes meiosis. Taking too much of the water treated with the stone will also inhibit mitosis and kill you within less than 9 hours. Misuse of the stone when treating the water will also give you radiation poisoning. Your gut bacteria are not affected by the water, only eukaryotes are, so be ready to take those pills to repopulate it. If you are sick, the stone will do you no good. If you have read of Master Trimegistus, you will know the stone has very interesting properties in our material world but is ultimately disconnected from your spiritual growth. If you want true immortality, you must become pure in mind and body, subtle in thought and action, and build yourself a soma athanaton to surpass bodily death.
As above, so below, to do the miracle of the One thing.
Not stone, you need ketones. Intermittent fasting if not complete fasting. Three weeks. Get back to me.
Eli Roberts
>hermes trismegistus is also known as noah from the bible during the flood Incorrect, he is Noah's grandfather and Mathuselah's father. He also returns as Idris in the Quran and the Archangel Metatron in the Kabbalah. He is Hermes in Greece, and Thoth in Egypt. He is the Sage in the East, the Philosopher in the West. He is my Master and teacher. Praises to Hermes, Pymander, and this beautiful World. The World for Man, Man for God.
Eli Ross
right. im doing that right now. keto diet. started 1 or 2 days ago.
get back to you? where do i find you? just post on Jow Forums? i think my water supply is compromised.
but how do you synthesize it?
Hudson Turner
>but how do you synthesize it? With 5 million atmospheres of pressure. If you have no money, this will be difficult, as you'd need a very good diamond anvil cell. During WW2, the Nazi party and the USSR both produced impure versions of the stone. The Nazis used it as plane fuel, the USSR used it for bomb enrichment. Do not attempt to purchase Red Mercury. Even if you succeeded in acquiring it, the impure version of the stone can't produce the water of life.
Isaac Wood
If you think gold is nonreactive you clearly have never dated a roastie
Only what is born will die Body dies Mind does not There is nothing at all to fear except fear itself
Robert Moore
gonna need sources
also, everyone who reads on alchemy quickly discovers that "it's childs play and women's work." it's not fucking complicated, stop making shit up, don't turn this into another "myth that only occured in obscure nations that america knows nothing of and was enemies with."
Kevin Hill
There's 2 parts to the stone: One, is correct there was lots of toys floating around. But then it was changed to mean in later alchemy for the simple fact we lost the stone! I'm not shitting you a fucker dropped it in a river, and no has found it in millennia. Sorry there's not some thrilling tale behind it. At least I got to nut on it once.
Jayden Wright
you templars are great
thanks man
Eli Bennett
This isn’t a Harry Potter thread. What is this gay shit.
Robert Allen
Well, the philosopher's stone is indeed a complicated thing to make. There's a thing called the adder stone which has the ancient knowledge of snakes of both past and present. It usually is formed when a group of snakes start to mate. It's a 2 person job when extracting. Lest you get bitten
Kayden Green
America, as a country, knows a lot. Americans, as a people, don't. Your country has produced pure versions of the stone since at least the 1980s. They simply haven't used it (at least publicly). The best military uses of the stone are enriching weapons grade uranium to get greater bomb yield, and the engineering applications of its solid form, which would allow for incredible circuitry and has potential to be used in aircrafts. Lets just say the stone is a "great conductor", even at room temperature.
Aaron Allen
moron he didnt mean 'animal' and 'vegetable' but instead those parts of the tripartite soul that are the vegetative and sensitive.
Landon Parker
extra side note, noah had a very long lifespan. There were quite a few ancient people that descended from him that did also. Alchemists follow hermes tresmegistus, and if hermes is noah, (or not as user noted here) then who better to seek info from?
Brandon Kelly
Never read the tablets thinking bout it but first probably gonna learn a bit more about alchemy first or are the tablets a good introduction.
Lincoln Wilson
Noah is Hermes' grandchild in the OT. Though I don't care much for embellished tales. Hermes' writings are much better for the mind.
Anthony Miller
this only autistic faggot take it as a literal stone.
Just like the Holy Grail it is symbolic.
It represents spiritual enlightenment
Sebastian Thomas
You are very welcome. I very strongly suggest reading the Tibetan Book of the Dead.
>are the tablets a good introduction Absolutely not. Not even I can accurately read them. Only Adepts and Masters can. Read Pythagorean, Platonic and Aristotelian philosophy. Read about second order phase transitions and the solid form of gases, you may stumble upon some golden knowledge.
Austin Williams
You don't need a stone. You need to realize your true inner nature. That is where the secrets rest. Even the Bible says God is that which fills all things, and that the Kingdom of Heaven is within. Look inward, not outward.
I would literally burn every single one of you at the stake.
Justin Rodriguez
He was Adam in the bible and Thoth in Egyptian mythology.
While Osiris was the whole garden nature god thing which is why he is represented as Evil sometimes cause he is the physical world while in reality he is a medium for good or evil and is a necessary step to enlightenment.
This is why Horus(Ra reincarnated) has to over come Osiris or in other words the physical to gain spiritual enlightenment.
first you have to save your urine for a month and distill it and you will be left with a fine powder then you need to eat the powder wait a day and ejaculate into your own mouth and drink a gallon of blood then wait a day again and now ejaculate into your hand a use a turky baster to place it into your rectum for 3 days and poop it back out then bury it for 1 year on the first harvest moon of the year
VIOLA A PHILOSOPHERS STONE
Luke Lewis
Jesus did not speak of burning unbelievers, he spoke of loving them. Go away and repent, demon. I forgive you. God might not.
Daniel Ramirez
>vegetative and sensitive.
I think you mean will and mind or in other words Soul and consciousness.
Dylan Butler
if you don't have human blood pigs or lambs blood is best
Adrian Powell
The stone exists in two forms: the material and the metaphor. The material stone is a dark red shiny material that is highly conductive. It is made entirely of only one element, highly compressed. When striking a base metal with strength, it may react with the metallic surface and change its atomic (not molecular) structure. The stone itself is a catalyst for nuclear transmutation. It is slightly soluble in bulk water (literal H2O) and decays into two solutes: one radioactive, one neutral. The neutral one has applications in medicine and energy production. If the water has only the neutral solute, it will extend eukaryotic lifespan by about 15% as long as you do not overconsume it (water of life) . If it has the radioactive solute, it will be able to dissolve anything with time (alkahest). The radioactive form can enrich uranium and be used as a lightsource in lamps that lasts from 10 to 20 years without any extra energy source.
Xavier King
Extending life is pretty shit desu. The last years are often miserable. Extending youth, on the other hand...
Jordan Morris
and in a future life that which you brought into the lives of others against their free will would be brought into yours.
Benjamin Hughes
In the metaphorical sense, the stone describes four steps to the spiritual growth of man and realization of the higher self. It is a path of meditative introspection not unlike the Buddhist Noble Eightfold path. It starts with curiosity and ends after all 4 stages are complete. Neophyte. Hierophant. Adept. Master. The Hermetic Master is like the Eastern Arhat, same as the Neophyte is equivalent to a Srotapanna. Both paths culminate in the creation of a soma athanaton and the transcendence of earthly bonds. It is the only path to true immortality: enlightenment. Opposite to this path are the conscupiscences of the flesh: pleasure, rage, greed, envy, imlulsiveness, gluttony, pride and indolence. Most are not ready to sacrifice the access to their vices and addictions, so most people simply neglect the growth of the soul, of the mind, of the body.
Joshua Allen
my insides are clean user, thanks though. Regardless, we must still live in the world and deal with worldly concerns.
we all 3 can't be right.
I've read elsewhere in regards to the material stone that there are 2, one white, one red. The white will cure all disease, till you die from old age, and will turn lesser metals into silver. The second, the red, will cure disease even on another person and let you live forever (or an extraordinarily long time, like those in the bible,) and will turn lesser metals into gold. I have also read about the lamps, "the everburning candles." But according to tales, it was well beyond 20 years.
Emerald tablet? "unfetter my chains" It is unusual how that entire thing has a different tone excluding the part about "as above, so below."
Jeremiah Murphy
As a Buddhist I would say our paths are nearly identical. We use different terminology and stories, different meditations, but the essence is the same. Do you guys meditate upon deities to merge with them? Most Buddhists don't do that, but the Tibetans do.
Nicholas Brown
Existing here within a body is 100% optional, fren.
The entire point is to escape that. No body = no suffering. Yes, you can return to a body later, but again, optional once you can let go at will.
Jackson Bell
If you extend the lifespan, you extend youth. And with proper care for your body and mind, you will retain youthfulness. You should read into the physical benefits of actual yoga (not the New Age crap) as well as the mental benefits and increase in grey matter brought about by mindful meditation.
Nathaniel Lewis
>we all 3 can't be right
They are not all correct while their over all meaning and archetype align.
The reason for this could possibly simply be Chinese whispers over time the message changes or possibly this same archetypal idea or character is expressed through different people therefore having slightly different messages.
Brandon Morgan
>If you extend the lifespan, you extend youth This nigga is about to die though. If I existed as a self I would have already seen my true nature and if I existed as a self I would thank you for the wise advice.
Lincoln Taylor
>increase in grey matter brought about by mindful meditation.
helped my ADHD for this very reason but I still retained my creativity which is a result of this same "disease".
Austin Morales
>certain oils what certain oils?
Nathan Peterson
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The whole thing about the philosopher stone is that it turns lead to gold, we can do that today with nuclear reactors so its not even that extremely advanced tech
Adrian Reyes
The lead here is your negative emotions and habits. The gold here is maximizing the potential of the human condition in all ways.
Juan Watson
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There is always desire to be something more within human. Usually it manifest itself through materialistic ways, sexual ways, through drugs or parenthood example. It is endless chasing, rat-race that leads nowhere but keeps you busy through own creation that people calls as life.
We can't remember our time as toddlers because we didn't exist in that time. We had no identity. Only when years has gone while we gathered data from our environment we created identity. When we have our identity, we decide what matters to us. Then we experience impulsive feelings when things didn't go as we wanted.
We are piece of life that creates own image and plays it (Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His own image). We get so tangled to our own creation that it can kill us and bring us into hell. We think that something or someone causes our misery even when we alone create everything within.
We have all this mysterious desire to do something, be something more. It usually manifest itself through sexual ways, materialistic ways, through parenthood, dating, drugs, games, food, alcohol.. you name it. Through that it leads nowhere, it keeps us happy for a moment and then we need more. So where we are now? We are piece of life that want to experience bigger part of it. Through physical ways it finds not that part and when that need to expand finds no expression we create this pain within. So what to do? This is what meditation is all about. We don't want to identify to our thoughts or to our outward senses. That is just the data we gathered from the physical and created self from it. When we learn to be still, just be as piece of life, something start to happen that seems to expand you into everywhere. It seems to that consciousness, awareness is the basic that exist and everything else is manifest of it.
What (((they))) wan't is to bind us more and more into physical, sins, into that rat-race i wrote about above, so that we wouldn't learn or even think about this.
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Do you know any traditions that teach how to harness the infinite power of the dream to make itself real? This is the final step of Tibetan Buddhism, and I am curious if other traditions teach it. Two years ago I knew none of this. Now I know nothing at all. Funny how that is.
Luke Powell
wrong they are to develop the inner world but to also maintain and improve the outer world.
The whole "as within so without" thing.
Liam Nguyen
Unfortunately for me, I do not have the tools to craft a stone myself. I say the lamps last for 10 to 20 years because that's how long our tritium lights last, but since the stone cam produce absurd ammounts of it, I wouldn't be surprised if the lamps glowed for hundreds of years.
Everyone is born into the material realm with 8 burdens that can be removed to alleviate suffering. Removing these chains involves willful effort, sacrifice, and there is no shortcut to any part of it. Masters take decades to train and they often say their training is forever incomplete until they become one with the All. A type of cosmic apotheosis where they feel absolutely no desire, are free from rebirth into the cycle of suffering, have none of the senses yet all of the knowledge, and their mind perfectly mimics that of the Infinite One, creating beautiful worlds with a thought, breathing life into them with a word. Siddartha Gautama is said to have achieved such a state while still living and dedicated the rest of his life to teaching others.
To us, deities are simply aspects of the Infinite One. We do not believe in literal living Gods, only in one literal objective reality which is also a living entity or supreme being, the Absolute Infinite. It is within It that we live and die, and it is From It that we come, and it is Of It that we are made of. It is Light, Life and Mind. We do not pray to merge with deities, but we do understand that becoming one with nothingness, blown out, is the same as merging with or becoming the Infinite One. Dimensions converge into the Absolute, so It is spatial and energetic limits as well as past and future. Its existence, and as such, reality's is eternal. There is no true beginning or true end, just the Absolute Infinite. We, beings of mortal flesh and sense, may either dwell on one if the perfect myriad worlds of the Dyad, or let go of desire and death to join as One in the Monad.
This aussie gets it. Its what Jung describes as Mythologems. Myth Memes, the same core concepts repeated all over humanity history dressed in different cloths.
Jesus,buddha,apollo,horus,etc.
Alexander Clark
>no body sounds like shit. If I happened to commit suicide thinking that I could escape, I wouldn't be alive to experience it. God didn't fuck up, we have a body for a reason, and we can have a good life with it. >inb4 gnostics show up
any really, research dr. tennant? on how the body is affected by voltage. Eating, exercising, essential oils, alkaloids, all have a similar effect on the proper functioning of the body, simply due to a net negative charge. Staves off cancer, and allows the body to mop up the mess.
>We can't remember our time as toddlers because we didn't exist in that time. We had no identity. Only when years has gone while we gathered data from our environment we created identity. Disagree. Carl Jung and his red book prove that children are in fact not blank slates, therefore genetic lineage, heredity, and family disease and curses, are very real. Simple epigenetics would agree. Which you then in turn agree with here >We have all this mysterious desire to do something, be something more.
The deities are nothingness. Uniting with them is a fast way to emptiness. The teacher is the deity and both deity and teacher are emptiness so uniting with either one kickstarts the stopping of time, the inner teacher awakens and you arrive at the inner cave, etc.
Dylan Powell
>We had no identity. Only when years has gone while we gathered data from our environment we created identity
I agree with your overall statement but implying that our self is built on nothing but nurture is idiotic, life is nature/nurture.
Gabriel Gutierrez
You will not understand until you are ready. Since everything is a projection of illusory mind, you may not understand it ever. No biggie to me either way, fren.
Chase Russell
Yes faggot. Glad you undesrtood me.
Life is already a dream. You , me, everyone lives a psychic existance. Playing Jungian archetypal roles in the Psychic World stage. >we are 40k orks Its all in your mind. But you aint the mind.
Ego death. Read "power of now" by eckhart toole.
>tfw Jow Forums redpills the fuck out of you and you just want to give it back.
Jason Gray
>Do you know any traditions that teach how to harness the infinite power of the dream to make itself real? This is the final step of Tibetan Buddhism, and I am curious if other traditions teach it. The Tibetan book of the Dead is similar in essence but not in content to the Egyptian book of the dead. Both are concerned with navigation in the post life realm. For Buddhist masters, the Six Dharmas of Naropa are a good way of constructing a soma athanaton and securing a ticket to salvation in the afterlife. It does involve yoga nidra to construct the soma athanaton.
Nicholas Brown
>Fearing death You're not worthy of the stone. As Above, So Below
Ethan Gonzalez
This What the fuck are you talking about?
Hunter Roberts
Thank you, but neither of you understood my question.
Tbe last step of Tibetan Buddhism is to harness the infinite power of the illusory mind which pretends to create this false, dreamlike reality, in order to make the dream real. I know that this is part of the six yoga of Naropa.
What I am asking is if any other traditions besides Tibetan Buddhism that you know of teach exactly how to go about making this false reality real.
Aaron Edwards
>This aussie gets it. >Its what Jung describes as Mythologems. >Myth Memes, the same core concepts repeated all over humanity history dressed in different cloths. >Jesus,buddha,apollo,horus,etc.
This Peruvian gets it.
Yes and these slight differences are determined by the unique peculiarities of the culture, race/racial sub group and simply how the individual can express a certain idea or meaning in a different way and this individual changing can be looked at as the partial clothes of these universal archetypes and the changer of these mythology's and religions.
Right. Everyone eventually gravitates towards the path that is right for them if they bother to seek it.
Charles Campbell
it's not that i dont understand it, i understand it perfectly. I am saying that to deny the outside world's existence is a insane as to deny one's inside world. They coexist as one, even if both are controlled from the same source. If the source did not have a desire, then nothing would exist. If we have no desire and merge with the godhead, our existence is a null. Hence why it only matters if you are able to utilize the inner world while alive in this one. Otherwise, you are simply a spirit, and last I checked, spirits would love to inhabit anything, because they are lacking a body.
agreed, one cannot deny the outside reality, even if it controlled from the inner one at its core. They still appear to affect each other and reciprocate.
Landon Williams
I see, it is an allegory for instruction. A tool between Master and apprentice, and between the All and Master. A mantra for focusing on some part of growth. I understand. It seems useful though not necessary.
He will not understand your words. The like only takes that which is like, and the unlike does not take that which is unlike.
Eli Morris
>genetic lineage, heredity, and family disease and curses, are very real
Those surely help to shape your self, but it does not make your identity. There is kind of memory in your dna that remembers how your great great grandfathers nose was. That same DNA create your vessel, but environment shape your identity until you are certain point at realizing, most of people probably never gets there. So they are impulsive state all their lifes.
