Why isn’t Russia in the EU?

I really don’t get it. They are a European country, why don’t they want to join? Would it not make sense economically?

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they have too much political weight if you know what i mean

Does the part of Russia that is an Asia get left out? It is a European origination after all.

No, because Cyprus is also in the EU and Greenland was nominally in the EU for decades.

>why don’t they want to join?
Afaik we wanted even wanted to join NATO in the 2000s.
I think it's a question of time, we need to have more competitive economy to play an important role there. If there wasn't ukrainian conflict, I believe that Russia would join the EU by 2020-2025.

Cyprus is not in Asia according to mapsofworld.com. Personally, that would be a toss up. If they share Euro culture and values they could be in EU. If Greenland isn't in now that is kind of a moot point. Plus 50k people is not worth mentioning.

You asked what we would do with the “Asian” part of Russia. My answer is that EU politicians never really were enforcing the “European” criteria for joining the EU much. Turkey could have joined despite only 3% of their country being in Europe. Cyprus is 250km off the coast of Israel... Greenland is in North America, Iceland was supposed to join and that is closer to Greenland than Europe. Kazahstan may join and it’s bordering China and Mongolia...

They would love to, only under a different name. Russia joins = russia dominates.
Implying it wouldn't have imploded on itself like it is going to now.

It would be the EU who become a part of Russia not the other way around.

It is practically not possible for Russia to join EU for two main reasons
a) Its economy to this day is pretty socialist. I doubt it can ever be reformed even if we had a govt that genuinely wanted to do so
Just an example, all living costs such as electricity, gas, water etc are subsidized like a fuck (way more than anywhere else). I doubt that is acceptable per EU laws and neither would anyone be happy with 5x prices hike if state support is removed and they're to pay actual costs.
b) Russia never will remotely comply with human rights related requirements. Remember Turkeye who failed to even remotely approach it and mind situation in Russia is much worse.

And Putin really hates the west which in fact is his main sentiment. Now every day there's more than 8 hours of propaganda on widely TV channels literally pumping an idea of the west being devil and whatnot.

The EU should solely encompess the former Carolingian Empire.

Does Russia want to be in a transnational organisation that usurps it's sovereign power?
Or is it that the EU doesn't want Russia because it'll have too much influence?

>Its economy to this day is pretty socialist
So is the EU, the only difference is that it is still wealthy enough to masquerade as a free market.

>it's sovereign power
implying Russia is not a huge money milker for a select dozen politicians and oligarchs

Russia would have a leadership role. Russia, Germany and France would dominate the EU. The only way to prevent that would be to introduce US style federalism in which case Russian MEPs and German MEPs could dominate significnat parts of the EU Parliament, but in the EU Council, both countries would only have 2 senators.

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Power is never shared.

Based.
Old Catalonia takes it's rightful place in Europe. We are taking "new Catalonia" with us though

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A nation can't join if it has any unresolved territorial claims.

>They are a European country

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>Or is it that the EU doesn't want Russia because it'll have too much influence?
Bullshit. Russia has no influence over middle Asia that is hardcore dependant on us. This country is a paper tiger, nothing more.

Euro socialism is less focused on redistribution of wealth from those who produce anything to literal parasites. Off course that shit is around.

That's easy, they'll first make the contested area "sovereign" and incorporate it, and after that add Russia right back to it.

because they would need to find a new boogieman

they are not fag, they are asia that larped to be euro hard.

They would adopt the US' main & Russia's spare bogeyman: China.

Says the memeflag
I believe that's not just a technicality, but a way of avoiding future conflicts. I doubt the EU would like to deal with Japan and such over contested territories.

Actually, a Moscow-Berlin-Paris axis would look really nice. I don't see any problem with that. But we need to do something with the dominating ideology, it's too fucking pathetic now.

Kill all lefties, jews, mudshits and niggers.

Problem solved by the great purge

Several reasons:
>Population
Russia's population gives it more seats in the EU Parliament than Germany and France. Combined, if a new resolution isn't adopted
>Political system
Russia is a blatant totalitarian system, the only country that comes close to the levels of fake democracy in Russia is mine. It wasn't like this when we joined though, the EU fucked it up with gibs for the country which raised support for the pro-euro party
>Balance of power
The EU is the second greatest ally of the US and its biggest competition. Russia, even though it has weak economy, has great economical and resource potential. The more powerful and centralised the EU grows the more the US will shit their pants. Plus with Russia being allies with the EU there will be only nominal need for NATO.

Why EU isn`t in the Russia?

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Russia in the EU.
EU is energetically independant
Doen't have any foe to fight
Can feed its population
Doesn't need to trade in USD, or buy oil in USD.
Which country is the biggest loser...
You're right USA.
Russia in the EU is the one thing America want to prevent.
If that was to happen, USA would lose its dominance. Europe is the sole reliable USA trading partner. It's been like that since Bretton Woods.

how is asia another continent?

Always fun to see these butthurt former Soviet proxies pop in Russia threads.

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Why isn't Germany in the BeNeLux?

>A nation can't join if it has any unresolved territorial claims.

Says who? Ukraine isn’t in the EU, only if it were would that Crimea matter.

Yes, Crimea would be one of the reasons Ukraine can't join the EU.

It's BS that they don't vote our vote, since Europoors won't open up the markets either. No free trade agreements like NAFTA (or since it has bad rep, like ASEAN or others).

I'd rather join """Asia""" at this point, once they form up something like EU.

suck my dick fucking onion kys

Because it will be a logistical nightmare to properly organize and defend such country.

EU has nothing to do with being european countries , EU is to today what the axis powers were to 1940s .
russia dosnt wanna join the fucking bad guys side , even UK got woke . im really hoping the poles get their shit together and POLEXIT.

the germans started the EU to continue their work from 1945 , merkle's fourth reich is the reason europe was flooded with rapefugees .

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Historically you've always been on the receiving side.

Your freedom was a misunderstanding

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What do you even talk about kike, germans didnt created the EU it was the french,brits and dutch.

will it be able to join the EU after donbas is annexed ?

>I'd rather join """Asia""" at this point, once they form up something like EU.

China? Isn’t this dangerous?

at the very least the germans subverted it to their cause , (although i suspect they also made it using proxies)

>European country

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For Asian countries? No we get along with them. Neither Mongolia, nor Korea, nor Japan, nor Kazakhstan do not complain.

Compare this with Eastern Euro cry-babies.

No, unless it recognized the independence of Donbass and Lugansk, as well as abandons its claims on Crimea. Not sure if Poland, Hungary and Romania have officially come into a dispute with Ukraine, but if they haven't, Ukraine would be able to join. t least that's how I see it.

>suck my dick
Is it as hard to find it on your body as it's hard to find your country on the map?

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How exactly did they subverted it when the french even forced them to take the euro,which is something they made btw, in order to keep german exports under control.

Russia is its own sovereign.

LOL i must point out that this is my fav meme! :D
also russians are russians, commies are commies and history is history!

good joke retard go kys fucking onion i hate u fucking communist cocksucker
youll never have us back its fact yet you wish so hard
a small country like estonia managed to fight free from you. what embarassment

>a small country like estonia managed to fight free from you
You were just let go. Slaves in America didn't fight for their independence, they were just freed without much struggle from their part. Same here.

>youll never have us back

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Do you westerners even want us in the EU? I thought we were universally hated, kinda like leafs.

not in 1920 you fought and we won. country so big like russia cant govern 15 smaller countries thats a big embarassment

Did you fight in 1991? Shut up then.

Poland got their independence both times without war. In fact, they declared war on the Soviets and then almost lost it.

>youll never have us back its fact yet you wish so hard
Oh noooooo! WHY???? Please, noooo! I want your 2 km^2 country full of nothing so much!

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>Why isn't Russia big on the idea of a United States of Europe?
Maybe because they're not governed by total retards?

ye you want your president wants it so bad
we got it because you couldnt govern 15 countries that were 100x smaller than yours hah. says much

I think you guys are alright and it could be fun to imbalance the german centric EU, but it's a pipe dream. Political cultures are too different and prevent a true union.

I mean in 1991 you were just let go, prior to that in 1940 you didn't even fight, just surrendered.

China gets away with taking over Tibet and Xianjiag, don't think the Soviets would somehow fail to keep Estonia by their side.

They weren't "Russian imperialists" and took barbarian's interest into account. The current Kremlin's administration will not do that.

Name 1 reason why would we need Estonia in our country.

You lost that chance a long time ago, the only way to take back the territory is to declare war on NATO.

yet it failed and it failed with keeping 15 countries by their side and its fact debil nahui sosi hui pidar

Because the Warsaw pact was better in there eyes and once your apart of something great it's hard to join a lesser organization

>almost lost the war
You were beaten Ivan, admit it : - )

Jesus christ, here is ah (you)

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Are you idiot serious? Only country in whole EU who benefits from Euro currency is Germany. For every other country it hurts their economy. Its basicly removes competive edge they have against germany and props up kraut economy.

Viro did not fight anything. Russians let you go. Atleast admit facts.

because it is in fucking asia you kraut.

That is because they have been able to export a lot and keep wages down but originally the euro project was made by the french in order to keep Germany contained.

because its not in europe you fucking retard
also they've tried communism, didn't fucking work and they were raped by the west when it failed

Because it's what the eternal anglo fears the most. A united eurasia.

Russia cant afford to go down with you, hans. you are approaching economic collapse. Russia already suffers from sanctions. when you are taken down, and other european members collapse, russia will be able to dictate terms, to you, for your survival. it amazes me you still can not see what is happening after brexit. cant wait for your demise

yes we fought in 1920 you even helped us. later we got free because they couldnt govern 15 countries

Russia is a Super Power.
Why would the want the crumbling EU cramping their style?

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Yes

Why would they be? After EU went purity spiraling liberal and ceased talks with Russia membership over some petty issue, Russia founed SCO together with China, which has now more population, weapons and wealth in its member states than EU. Fuck, EU is so puritan it negged Turkey for so long Turkey is now joining SCO too.

It was clear that discussion was about collapse of soviet union times.

KIKES ARE SLIDING THIS THREAD:

>later we got free because they couldnt govern 15 countries
We couldn't govern 30 mn in Uzbekistan and other 60 mn Muslims.

Ukraine with its 45 mn is not a gift either. But keeping a good located port country? We could even let Lithuania and Latvia go, but keep Estonia.

One more thing, SCO isn't basically a suicide cult like EU is, it doesn't force members to take hordes of foreigners.

no one cares about your incomplete thread. fuck off

you let everyone go because youre failure. country this big yet doesnt have capacity to govern over 15 countries, especially estonia latvia lithuania with their 1m population hah

what the hell is that?

Chechnya is twice bigger than Estonia and they're prone to rebel throughout history. They're located fucks know where, in the Caucasus that has little strategic value.

Yes we can do that and you wont' show 1/10 of the resistance the Chechens did. We could even just buy your politicians with oil.

Estonia can be brought back with ease.

But Cyprus is ethnically Greek and has strong ties with Europe. Thry are Orthodox Christians, speak Greek, which is one of the official languages of the EU and participate in customs that could be described as European.


Not that I want them to be part of this unholy jewish experiment but they have every right to if they want to.

because EU is for pussies and shit in general

and this

>Euro culture and values
>EU
pick one

only when estonia stands alone but nowadays it has nato behind

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Because the Netherlands, Flanders and Luxemburg are basically German states that went independent earlier than Austria or Switzerland, meaning their languages are more different.

I still believe NATO is garbage and should be destroyed and a new organization needs to be made to combat the yellow Menace. A Russian American Australian Anglo alliance. And least we forget being united as soon as the German scum tries some shit again

This guy gets it. I support Russia joining the eu and the new Warsaw Pact

We only let 1st worlders in ..

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It's a wooden statue in front of a buddihst temple there is another on the other side of the archway, but it's at the big budda in Japan. Got to see it when our boat pulled into yakuska

So you're just a worthless whore that acts tough by sucking off the new master? Gotchya. Real proud of ya senpai.

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