Dating is nothing more than a LARP marriage, even when "trad" people do it with "trad contraceptives" and "trad premarital sex". Its an entirely postmodern method of courtship so dont be fooled.
Dating isnt trad, but a jewish trick to destroy society.
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Traditional method of pairing was:
1. courtship/engagement - youll meet each other at the presence of the family, so hands dont become too sticky and for PARENTS to judge you and your family (because bride become a part of husbands family). Also, PARENTS of the bride questioned you about your own family in order to test the geneology, your material status etc. Parents of bride test everything, you also test about your brides history, that is why old marriages were so successful.
NO SEX happened here. BUT WE LOOOOVE EACH OTHER. Okay, and what happens if you stop loving her or engagement fails? Girl looses virginity and is on its way to work at the whorehouse or marry down.
2. marriage - you are OFFICIALY a family. Have wild christian sex and create plenty of white babies. Congrats!
So where does dating fit here?
NOWHERE.
Dating isnt even courting, you basically LARP as a marriage. You LOOOOVE each other and then you LARP as marriage with another, then another and then you wonder how everyone has a mileage when getting married and how so many marriages fail.
Dating isnt a christian custom (is there a place in Bible that even mentions that kind of male-female interaction?) but a jewish trick to destroy society.
So Selner and other coolredpolledtrad people should do that kind of shit. Either engage a girl who you think is suitable for marriage, dont do this postmodern marriage LARP.
INCEL GENOCIDE NOW
what have incels done to you to hate them?
when did this social engeneering started?
historically it was
1.engagement
2.marriage
now its
1.dating (in most cases its an euphemism for casual sex relationships)
2.sometimes marriages
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Completely agree. Still gotta date tho. Hopefully shit changes in a few generations but ATM just a dream.
>Still gotta date tho. Hopefully shit changes in a few generations but ATM just a dream.
yeah, dating can be non-degenerate, but you have to keep in mind that its a system of pair bonding created to fail and cause damage.
we cant expect to have courting right now, so well have to make due, but be wise.
We can't turn back time, the only real alternative is (((tinder)))-style casual sex. fucking horror, somebody wake me up
Good analysis Croat user.
How did a 5oyboy get a gf in the first place?
False. That is modernist garbage. The traditional way is bride kidnapping.
>the only real alternative is (((tinder)))-style casual sex.
why so nihilistic user? why not date with the goal of getting married instead? Yes, dating is a system created to fail you, but we have to and can work around it, white power?
agreed dating is gay
just rape strangers
Based sandnigger
Go back to your containment board, robot.
>Go back to your containment board, robot.
why dont you go suck a dick, you reflex thinking faggot?
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Yeah it would be nice but that doesnt exist in any form now you fucking sperg
Go ahead and crusade for the next generation (lol) and stay celibate
stop making threads you fucking kurvat
nobody cares about you or your youtube celebrities
>Go ahead and crusade for the next generation (lol) and stay celibate
why would I stay celibate?
rude
>either engage or dont bother
So that leaves you with dont bother
normie dating is jewish trick (pushed by movies and tv) to get men to spend money. it's a all part of pushing the consumerist behavior. the average date can cost anywhere from $50-$200, per date. and if the guy is beta he gets 0 kiss 0 fuck. if he's lucky he holds hands with the girl before she goes home and dances naked for her camshow.
right now you have to be either a chad or a mgtow or a virgin. the chad is basically just turbofucking tons of sluts, on the same day he meets them.
the mgtow doesn't giv a fuck about women anymore and just focuses on improving himself, because he knows he'd get rekt by being in any sort of relationship with biocunts.
and lastly the "virgin" is the incel who spends his time enjoying his hobbies, which may also include excessive beating off.
notice how the kikes and feminists have devised their own way to mock each of t the above types. the chads are now called fuckboys, toyboys, etc. the virgin incel and mgtow are both mocked as fat basement dwellers.
its all so tiresome. for any user, my advice is: just disconnect from this shit if you can't handle the bantz. go on a nice hike if you live near some wooded areas. out in nature there is none of his garbage.
>cost anywhere from $50-$200, per date. and if the guy is beta he gets 0 kiss 0 fuck.
>Being alpha
>Paying anything at all in a date
You have much to learn
People who used terms like POSTMODERN should be fed to pitbulls.
>So that leaves you with dont bother
you sound like you are incapable of any kind of analytical thinking, you think in reflexes, not in concepts
>People who used terms like POSTMODERN should be fed to pitbulls.
its a non precise word to describe the non precise and undefined period we live in, I see nothing wrong with using it.
>its all so tiresome. for any user, my advice is: just disconnect from this shit if you can't handle the bantz.
that is not the white way to do it, white way is to fight despite all odds.
What other option is available to you today you loon?
>What other option is available to you today you loon?
plenty of them you absolute moron.
Like? We've ruled out dating and proposals right off the bat wont work
So what are you planning on
Dating is a homosexual invention.
It won't last much longer. Arranged marriages, and traditional family vetting will become the norm again. Things that don't have an ancient precedent do not last long.
>Dating was a homosexual invention.
I've heard this and it makes sense. Anywhere I can read more?
dating is literally cucking unless you date a virgin
Just use cloriform. Its your only chance to get some.
Premarital sex was really fucking common even in the middle ages and completely socially acceptable. The Catholic Church disapproved, of course. Men would have mistresses before marriage. Male virginity isn't real and not important, women pretend they care but they reallo don't. Virginity was always valued for women. Problem is, it's really hard to find a woman who hasn't lost her virginity at 14 (average age). So they should be absolutely shamed for being whores. Until a man finds a faithful virgin, they should fuck their mistresses. It has always workedl ike this.
>whining about postmodern kike methods to trick and destroy society is a Croatian trick to destroy society
>"trad premarital sex"
This is a thing now? Fornicators should be gassed.
>We've ruled out dating and proposals right off the bat wont work
dude, you are talking with yourself.
>Dating is a homosexual invention.
didnt that whoremonger Roosh did an article on that? It goes even further than homos, french courtisanses had smth similar.
>Premarital sex was really fucking common even in the middle ages and completely socially acceptable.
nowhere near the rate it is today, you are on drugs if you think people just whored around without modern contraceptives
nice!
rooshv.com
>dating in the West began with 19th century prostitutes and homosexuals to later be normalized for everyone without having to prove its utility. It was never intended as a way for heterosexuals to find long-term partners, and any culture that has implemented it has suffered both lowered marriage and birth rates.
>This is a thing now? Fornicators should be gassed.
seems like it is, what ather trad thot other than Faith Goldy even mentioned that she was staying virgin until marriage?
He thinks people were courting Puritans before the Victorian era and didn't fuck like rabbits all the time
Do you know how to follow a thread you fucking idiot?
You set up that dichotomy in your own op retard
>Premarital sex was really fucking common
Wow, people have always had the potential to be degenerates, I'm shocked. Also, it wasn't anywhere as common nor as accepted as it is today. Even in modern post (((sexual revolution))) times, up to a quarter of women waited until marriage in the 70s. 1 in 20 do now. Meanwhile, at the turn of the last century, fewer than 5% fornicated.
>inb4theywerelying
Let's be generous and apply the "multiply by three" rule PUA's love. Still fewer fornicators by proportion than those who waited after the unmitigated disaster of the 60s. Any attempt to argue that "this has always happened, it's normal, etc." is just an attempt to retroactively justify being a hedonist.
>Male virginity isn't real and not important
If you tell men to fuck around, women will necessarily be dragged into the pit with them. A major reason for the spike in promiscuity is not feminism, but the degenerate preferences of men. Even today, women are slightly more conservative sexually than men--and no, I'm not referring to self reported partner counts (since one before marriage is already too much), but the number of people desiring to wait until marriage.
Fuck off, MGTOW.
When having a kid out of wedlock was social suicide (and in some areas, actual suicide), I can guarantee you that people were far less inclined to act like degenerate filth.
>Any attempt to argue that "this has always happened, it's normal, etc." is just an attempt to retroactively justify being a hedonist.
THIS.
>A major reason for the spike in promiscuity is not feminism, but the degenerate preferences of men.
I like you, you have self awareness.
>He thinks people were courting Puritans before the Victorian era and didn't fuck like rabbits all the time
that is exactly what they did, without contraceptives, if a girl ended up pregnant she would either flip a coin with a butcher abortionists if she knew one, skip town or suicide herself.
>Even in modern post (((sexual revolution))) times, up to a quarter of women waited until marriage in the 70s
I wish I was that deluded
>I wish I was that deluded
you are deluded if you think people were always this evil
This is data from the CDC
lol the chads are now called chads. Our influence on norm culture is actually pretty insane.
So Ive read the whole thread, can some extrapolate on what a better system of meeting and getting to know a woman is?
Maybe im retarded but I dont see anyone explain it very well
>can some extrapolate on what a better system of meeting and getting to know a woman is?
courtship obviously , but we are yet to bring it back, so stick to dating with aim of marriage instead of (((fun)))
The biggest hurdle is getting people to dissociate dating from sex, and to reinforce the exclusive connection of sex, love, and marriage at once.
Too many people even on Jow Forums see sex as something that "just happens" while dating.